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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 3:34 PM ET #76

    Obama tried to remove Assad and in doing so created one of the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. 

    Say it Wallstreet. 
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    Obama tried to remove Assad and in doing so created one of the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. 

    Say it Wallstreet. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 3:44 PM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Obama tried to remove Assad and in doing so created one of the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. 

    Say it Wallstreet. 

    And trump hasn't tried and what just happened?
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Obama tried to remove Assad and in doing so created one of the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. 

    Say it Wallstreet. 

    And trump hasn't tried and what just happened?
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 3:58 PM ET #78

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 23 minutes ago "Quote" Obama tried to remove Assad and in doing so created one of the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. Say it Wallstreet.

     

     Define remove...and how he tried. Did we throw a few nukes in there, did we invade with 300k troops, did we try an overthrow with the special opps?

    Define what he did exactly...and then how it compares to what the chubb did this weekend.

    peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 23 minutes ago "Quote" Obama tried to remove Assad and in doing so created one of the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. Say it Wallstreet.

     

     Define remove...and how he tried. Did we throw a few nukes in there, did we invade with 300k troops, did we try an overthrow with the special opps?

    Define what he did exactly...and then how it compares to what the chubb did this weekend.

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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 3:59 PM ET #79

    I think there are idiots on both sides in politics but the democrats really have a low understanding of foreign events. 

    Before Obama a lot of Democrats were pretty hip to the game after watching Bush. But then Obama went on and did the same things. This drove a lot of people to vote for Trump. 

    This group of people that voted for Trump aren’t happy right now.
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    I think there are idiots on both sides in politics but the democrats really have a low understanding of foreign events. 

    Before Obama a lot of Democrats were pretty hip to the game after watching Bush. But then Obama went on and did the same things. This drove a lot of people to vote for Trump. 

    This group of people that voted for Trump aren’t happy right now.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:03 PM ET #80

    Obama supported covert operations through the CIA to back the rebels in an attempt to overthrow Assad. This is what brought Russia into Syria. 

    If you don’t know that, you’re either clueless or you don’t have the ability to be honest with yourself. 
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    Obama supported covert operations through the CIA to back the rebels in an attempt to overthrow Assad. This is what brought Russia into Syria. 

    If you don’t know that, you’re either clueless or you don’t have the ability to be honest with yourself. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:05 PM ET #81

    How does it compare to what Trump did? 

    Well, what Obama did created the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. And what Trump did won’t come close. 

    It’s time to get honest about Obama Wallstreet.

    He was an establishment puppet. 
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    How does it compare to what Trump did? 

    Well, what Obama did created the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. And what Trump did won’t come close. 

    It’s time to get honest about Obama Wallstreet.

    He was an establishment puppet. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:06 PM ET #82

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 3 minutes ago "Quote" Obama supported covert operations through the CIA to back the rebels in an attempt to overthrow Assad. This is what brought Russia into Syria. If you don’t know that, you’re either clueless or you don’t have the ability to be honest with yourself.

    So how does a covert attempt (and obviously weak at that, one might actually think it was not fully intended) as that compare to what the chubb did this weekend?

    Id take covert or sanctions to the loud attention seeking joke we saw from the chubb.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 3 minutes ago "Quote" Obama supported covert operations through the CIA to back the rebels in an attempt to overthrow Assad. This is what brought Russia into Syria. If you don’t know that, you’re either clueless or you don’t have the ability to be honest with yourself.

    So how does a covert attempt (and obviously weak at that, one might actually think it was not fully intended) as that compare to what the chubb did this weekend?

    Id take covert or sanctions to the loud attention seeking joke we saw from the chubb.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:08 PM ET #83

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: about a minute ago "Quote" How does it compare to what Trump did? Well, what Obama did created the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. And what Trump did won’t come close. It’s time to get honest about Obama Wallstreet.He was an establishment puppet.

    I disagree...you are implying things were great prior to Obama and this "attempt", that for sure is not the case because the root problem was there before Assad and will be after. So I do not agree with your analysis. I also do not believe that our special opps could not pull this off even if it took a few tries if they really wanted to. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: about a minute ago "Quote" How does it compare to what Trump did? Well, what Obama did created the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. And what Trump did won’t come close. It’s time to get honest about Obama Wallstreet.He was an establishment puppet.

    I disagree...you are implying things were great prior to Obama and this "attempt", that for sure is not the case because the root problem was there before Assad and will be after. So I do not agree with your analysis. I also do not believe that our special opps could not pull this off even if it took a few tries if they really wanted to. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:37 PM ET #84

    The Syrian civil war began in March of 2011. Syria was in decent shape before. 

    Similar to Libya. Libya was in decent shape before Obama turned Libya into a failed state. 

    You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. 
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    The Syrian civil war began in March of 2011. Syria was in decent shape before. 

    Similar to Libya. Libya was in decent shape before Obama turned Libya into a failed state. 

    You obviously have no clue what you’re talking about. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:43 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Posted: 34 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Posted: about a minute ago "Quote" How does it compare to what Trump did? Well, what Obama did created the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. And what Trump did won’t come close. It’s time to get honest about Obama Wallstreet.He was an establishment puppet. I disagree...you are implying things were great prior to Obama and this "attempt", that for sure is not the case because the root problem was there before Assad and will be after. So I do not agree with your analysis. I also do not believe that our special opps could not pull this off even if it took a few tries if they really wanted to.

    Yeah the religious fighting just started a few yrs ago...thats some solid logic right there, they were as peaceful as Flagstaff Arizona before Obama came into office and screwed the whole thing up.

    Really...you need to cut the comedy act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    Posted: 34 minutes ago "Quote" Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Posted: about a minute ago "Quote" How does it compare to what Trump did? Well, what Obama did created the worst humanitarian crisis since WW2. And what Trump did won’t come close. It’s time to get honest about Obama Wallstreet.He was an establishment puppet. I disagree...you are implying things were great prior to Obama and this "attempt", that for sure is not the case because the root problem was there before Assad and will be after. So I do not agree with your analysis. I also do not believe that our special opps could not pull this off even if it took a few tries if they really wanted to.

    Yeah the religious fighting just started a few yrs ago...thats some solid logic right there, they were as peaceful as Flagstaff Arizona before Obama came into office and screwed the whole thing up.

    Really...you need to cut the comedy act.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:47 PM ET #86

    2011 - 2016 

    500,000 Syrians killed

    5,600,000 Syrians fled as refugees 

    6,100,000 displaced within Syria
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    2011 - 2016 

    500,000 Syrians killed

    5,600,000 Syrians fled as refugees 

    6,100,000 displaced within Syria
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:56 PM ET #87

    What Obama did (create worst humanitarian crisis since WW2) is ok because Syria was never as nice as my city in Arizona. 

    Interesting. 

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    What Obama did (create worst humanitarian crisis since WW2) is ok because Syria was never as nice as my city in Arizona. 

    Interesting. 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:56 PM ET #88

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 6 minutes ago "Quote" 2011 - 2016 500,000 Syrians killed5,600,000 Syrians fled as refugees 6,100,000 displaced within Syria

    Yeah thanks for the stats...but that isnt the point at all. The country has a variety of religious groups there and many of them are ready to die to protect their religious beliefs, like EVERY OTHER country in that region...it doesnt matter if things have escallated in the last 10 years, the Assad's have been in power for 40 yrs and they side with one specific religious sect...and religion controls everything there, in every country. The only time it does not is when a non-religious military dictator is in control and forces all groups to stop or face the consequences...much like Saddam did in Iraq.

    Yeah it was Andy Griffith before 2011 in Syria...in fact they were ready for democratic elections before Obama screwed it up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 6 minutes ago "Quote" 2011 - 2016 500,000 Syrians killed5,600,000 Syrians fled as refugees 6,100,000 displaced within Syria

    Yeah thanks for the stats...but that isnt the point at all. The country has a variety of religious groups there and many of them are ready to die to protect their religious beliefs, like EVERY OTHER country in that region...it doesnt matter if things have escallated in the last 10 years, the Assad's have been in power for 40 yrs and they side with one specific religious sect...and religion controls everything there, in every country. The only time it does not is when a non-religious military dictator is in control and forces all groups to stop or face the consequences...much like Saddam did in Iraq.

    Yeah it was Andy Griffith before 2011 in Syria...in fact they were ready for democratic elections before Obama screwed it up.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 4:58 PM ET #89

    Democrats can never say anything bad about Obama. I’m so glad I’m not a democrat anymore. They mental gymnastics they do to protect Obama is embarrassing to watch. 


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    Democrats can never say anything bad about Obama. I’m so glad I’m not a democrat anymore. They mental gymnastics they do to protect Obama is embarrassing to watch. 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:01 PM ET #90

    The civil war started in March 2011 

    Hellllllllo 

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    The civil war started in March 2011 

    Hellllllllo 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:05 PM ET #91

    This Reddit thread is worth a read 

    — Syrians, how was life before the war broke out? — 

    https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/46z6az/syrians_how_was_life_before_the_war_broke_out/


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    This Reddit thread is worth a read 

    — Syrians, how was life before the war broke out? — 

    https://www.reddit.com/r/syriancivilwar/comments/46z6az/syrians_how_was_life_before_the_war_broke_out/


     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:06 PM ET #92

    Why can’t you post a link on this site? How can you have a discussion without links to share information? 

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    Why can’t you post a link on this site? How can you have a discussion without links to share information? 

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:08 PM ET #93

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 5 minutes ago "Quote" The civil war started in March 2011 Hellllllllo

    Yeah the whole region was having yard sales and picnics on the weekend before Obama came and screwed it all up.

    You need to learn the dynamics of religion in that area to comprehend what I am saying. The Assads were in power since the 70s there are several religious groups who hate each other habitating the area, the issues pre-date 2011.

    But yeah had Bush stayed in power they would have started democratic elections in 2012, that is a fact.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: 5 minutes ago "Quote" The civil war started in March 2011 Hellllllllo

    Yeah the whole region was having yard sales and picnics on the weekend before Obama came and screwed it all up.

    You need to learn the dynamics of religion in that area to comprehend what I am saying. The Assads were in power since the 70s there are several religious groups who hate each other habitating the area, the issues pre-date 2011.

    But yeah had Bush stayed in power they would have started democratic elections in 2012, that is a fact.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:12 PM ET #94

    Democrats laugh when Trump supporters 
    talk about Hillary and theyre still talking about 
    Bush 

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    Democrats laugh when Trump supporters 
    talk about Hillary and theyre still talking about 
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: less than a minute ago "Quote" Democrats laugh when Trump supporters talk about Hillary and theyre still talking about Bush

     

    Har har...you are blaming Obama, so who was before Obama? 

    Follow the carrot I know you can do it. Obama screwed the whole region up, yeah I know they would have cured cancer had it not been for Obama.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Posted: less than a minute ago "Quote" Democrats laugh when Trump supporters talk about Hillary and theyre still talking about Bush

     

    Har har...you are blaming Obama, so who was before Obama? 

    Follow the carrot I know you can do it. Obama screwed the whole region up, yeah I know they would have cured cancer had it not been for Obama.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:15 PM ET #96

    Syrian war broke out do for the need for regime change. Israel and turkey want to have a pipe line between the two countries Lebanon at the time approved it Syria did not so Assad had to go... everything else is propaganda.

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    Syrian war broke out do for the need for regime change. Israel and turkey want to have a pipe line between the two countries Lebanon at the time approved it Syria did not so Assad had to go... everything else is propaganda.

     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:17 PM ET #97

    So you don’t have a problem with backing/creating 
    an opposition party/military in Iran? Lebanon? 
    Jordan? Egypt? Pakistan? 

    Who cares? They’re not as nice as Flagstaff. 
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    So you don’t have a problem with backing/creating 
    an opposition party/military in Iran? Lebanon? 
    Jordan? Egypt? Pakistan? 

    Who cares? They’re not as nice as Flagstaff. 
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:22 PM ET #98

    I don’t know anyone that supports what Bush did. 
    He used establishment puppets like Mueller 
    to lie to Americans and say Iraq had WMD’s. 

    I do know a lot of Dems that can’t put any 
    blame on Obama. Even though his foreign policy 
    was just a continuation of Bush’s. Obama said he would 
    end 2 wars. He didn’t end anything.
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    I don’t know anyone that supports what Bush did. 
    He used establishment puppets like Mueller 
    to lie to Americans and say Iraq had WMD’s. 

    I do know a lot of Dems that can’t put any 
    blame on Obama. Even though his foreign policy 
    was just a continuation of Bush’s. Obama said he would 
    end 2 wars. He didn’t end anything.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:28 PM ET #99

    Post 97..

    This isnt about Obama, Trump made this decision on his own and not because of Obama.

    There is no good solution there so to me the solution that is the most secretive and covert and the less other countries know we are involved the better because we cannot win there as nobody wins.

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    Post 97..

    This isnt about Obama, Trump made this decision on his own and not because of Obama.

    There is no good solution there so to me the solution that is the most secretive and covert and the less other countries know we are involved the better because we cannot win there as nobody wins.

     
     
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    Posted: Apr. 15, 2018 - 5:29 PM ET #100

    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    https://conginst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/war-powers-1-xl.jpg

    Read it slim 


    I read it darkhorse ..and please do not ask me to read another of your cut & paste blog links .this article from the congressional institute.org....an organization funded by corporate contributions and run by lobbyists ..does nothing to answer my question I directed to you ..

    Again ,,,what did President Trump do in Syria that was against the Constitution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by darkhorse12:


    https://conginst.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/war-powers-1-xl.jpg

    Read it slim 


    I read it darkhorse ..and please do not ask me to read another of your cut & paste blog links .this article from the congressional institute.org....an organization funded by corporate contributions and run by lobbyists ..does nothing to answer my question I directed to you ..

    Again ,,,what did President Trump do in Syria that was against the Constitution?

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