Can anyone present a decent answer to this question? Obviously you need to use exact quotes when presenting your argument.
I believe the real reason he was deplatformed is because he would have been tweeting tremendous tweets at Joe Biden and the Democrats for 4 years. And his tweets would be so true and brutal that it honestly could become a national security issue. I think intelligence agencies met with Twitter, Facebook etc and they all came to the conclusion that it would be best to silence him.
Please use exact quotes. It’s very easy for everyone to find exactly what was said on Jan 6.
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Can anyone present a decent answer to this question? Obviously you need to use exact quotes when presenting your argument.
I believe the real reason he was deplatformed is because he would have been tweeting tremendous tweets at Joe Biden and the Democrats for 4 years. And his tweets would be so true and brutal that it honestly could become a national security issue. I think intelligence agencies met with Twitter, Facebook etc and they all came to the conclusion that it would be best to silence him.
Please use exact quotes. It’s very easy for everyone to find exactly what was said on Jan 6.
Deplatforming the leader of a political party is about as anti-democracy as you can get.
World leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel, various French ministers, and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador all denounced the banning of Trump.
Russian dissident Aleksei Navalny wrote: “This precedent will be exploited by the enemies of freedom of speech around the world. In Russia as well. Every time when they need to silence someone, they will say: ‘This is just common practice, even Trump got blocked on Twitter.’”
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Deplatforming the leader of a political party is about as anti-democracy as you can get.
World leaders like German Chancellor Angela Merkel, various French ministers, and Mexican President Andrés Manuel López Obrador all denounced the banning of Trump.
Russian dissident Aleksei Navalny wrote: “This precedent will be exploited by the enemies of freedom of speech around the world. In Russia as well. Every time when they need to silence someone, they will say: ‘This is just common practice, even Trump got blocked on Twitter.’”
Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why?
It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES.
Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
"Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation," Agrawal said in 2020.
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why?
It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES.
Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
"Our role is not to be bound by the First Amendment, but our role is to serve a healthy public conversation and our moves are reflective of things that we believe lead to a healthier public conversation," Agrawal said in 2020.
Simply, Trump has been banned from social media for repeatedly violating their policies which is long overdue. But censoring Trump isn't about free speech. First amendment is intended to constrain government power. So when private companies censor speech, they aren't subject to constitutional constraint. Courts have consistently rejected free speech arguments in favor of protecting the rights of social media companies to operate websites however they want.
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Simply, Trump has been banned from social media for repeatedly violating their policies which is long overdue. But censoring Trump isn't about free speech. First amendment is intended to constrain government power. So when private companies censor speech, they aren't subject to constitutional constraint. Courts have consistently rejected free speech arguments in favor of protecting the rights of social media companies to operate websites however they want.
Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why?
1,180,000 votes
NO 69%
YES 31%
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Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:
Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why?
According to Twitter these two tweets violated their "Glorification of Violence" policy;
“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”
"To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”
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According to Twitter these two tweets violated their "Glorification of Violence" policy;
“The 75,000,000 great American Patriots who voted for me, AMERICA FIRST, and MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, will have a GIANT VOICE long into the future. They will not be disrespected or treated unfairly in any way, shape or form!!!”
"To all of those who have asked, I will not be going to the Inauguration on January 20th.”
Trump and many others now have been banned from social media because those who control the public narrative control minds. It is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.
Not only have people on the political right been banned but so too real journalists from the left like Glenn Greenwald and now Chris Hedges...Hedges a few days ago on the Jimmy Dore show stated that the social media platforms are public utilities and so therefore should not be allowed to censor people.
The counter argument made is that they are private companies and yet they are protected from lawsuits by individuals by the federal government and they can't be sued...they can't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too. If they are private companies then they should be allowed to be sued without governmental protection and those whose rights have been buggered have a right to redress their grievances.
Free speech is the cornerstone of any free people and anyone who supports the right of social media companies to interfere with that right constitutes a violation of freedom of speech. The modern day left is very fascistic in this regard IMO. I was a lifelong leftist for decades but now no longer as these modern day tyrants are beneath my contempt.
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Trump and many others now have been banned from social media because those who control the public narrative control minds. It is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.
Not only have people on the political right been banned but so too real journalists from the left like Glenn Greenwald and now Chris Hedges...Hedges a few days ago on the Jimmy Dore show stated that the social media platforms are public utilities and so therefore should not be allowed to censor people.
The counter argument made is that they are private companies and yet they are protected from lawsuits by individuals by the federal government and they can't be sued...they can't be allowed to have their cake and eat it too. If they are private companies then they should be allowed to be sued without governmental protection and those whose rights have been buggered have a right to redress their grievances.
Free speech is the cornerstone of any free people and anyone who supports the right of social media companies to interfere with that right constitutes a violation of freedom of speech. The modern day left is very fascistic in this regard IMO. I was a lifelong leftist for decades but now no longer as these modern day tyrants are beneath my contempt.
is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.
Exactly what we see today.
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is why Hitler placed so much value on the propaganda ministry in Germany run by Goebbels. The Nazis could get away with the big lie if they simply repeated it over and over again as there was nobody to contest it in the public square.
Bonhoeffer , part of the plot to assassinate Hitler, wrote on the facts, that while Hitler demonstrated success in the European theater he was untouchable.
When he failed an opportunity existed to remove Hitler from office. The man died in a concentration camp about a month before victory Europe day.
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Bonhoeffer , part of the plot to assassinate Hitler, wrote on the facts, that while Hitler demonstrated success in the European theater he was untouchable.
When he failed an opportunity existed to remove Hitler from office. The man died in a concentration camp about a month before victory Europe day.
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES. Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
This is priceless,now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES. Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
This is priceless,now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES. Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
This is priceless,
now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,
so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.
priceless !!
"I'm the MOST HONEST HUMAN BEING that God has EVER created!!" - Donald Trump
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Quote Originally Posted by MrWhatsItToYa:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox: Elon Musk Tweet from 3:30AM EST “Free speech is essential to a functioning democracy. Do you believe Twitter rigorously adheres to this principle?” 600,000 votes 66% NO, 34% YES What do you think and why? It is both amazing and sad that 34% said YES. Banning free speech is the essence of "THE NEW WORLD ORDER".
This is priceless,
now trump and truth social are permanently suspending accounts that talk about the Jan 6th committee hearings,
so much for their whining and b*tching about companies that limit free speech.
Also, you would be surprised how easy it is to be "deplatformed" from a social media site. I, for one, do not care to comb through archived tweets but I can promise you I have seen tweets and retweets, mostly retweets, that violate terms of service.
Now that's not me saying I think he should have been banned. Just acknowledging how easy it is to violate terms of service on these sites.
TIME TO BRING BACK THE OBAMA CAGES!
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Also, you would be surprised how easy it is to be "deplatformed" from a social media site. I, for one, do not care to comb through archived tweets but I can promise you I have seen tweets and retweets, mostly retweets, that violate terms of service.
Now that's not me saying I think he should have been banned. Just acknowledging how easy it is to violate terms of service on these sites.
FRAUD. THAT'S WHY. HE WAS BELOW THE MENDOZA LINE IN LAWSUITS, 0/62, BECAUSE HE HAD NO EVIDENCE OTHER THAN HEARSAY, WHICH ISN'T EVIDENCE. THAT IS ALL. THE FRAUD IS CLEAR AS DAY, WHEN FORCED TO PRESENT EVIDENCE OF HIS OUTRIGHT LIES, HE HAS NONE. CASE CLOSED.
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FRAUD. THAT'S WHY. HE WAS BELOW THE MENDOZA LINE IN LAWSUITS, 0/62, BECAUSE HE HAD NO EVIDENCE OTHER THAN HEARSAY, WHICH ISN'T EVIDENCE. THAT IS ALL. THE FRAUD IS CLEAR AS DAY, WHEN FORCED TO PRESENT EVIDENCE OF HIS OUTRIGHT LIES, HE HAS NONE. CASE CLOSED.
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