Can you understand want. A man wants a babe Ruth card it sold originally for a dime forma fifty pack. Now a mint condition Ruth or cy young can go for nearly a million at an avg auction with little promotion. The media has been promoting this auction non stop for a month so a 200 used pistol at an avg pawn shop is being sold for over a hundred thousand itsso a fnn shocker eh?
Can you understand want. A man wants a babe Ruth card it sold originally for a dime forma fifty pack. Now a mint condition Ruth or cy young can go for nearly a million at an avg auction with little promotion. The media has been promoting this auction non stop for a month so a 200 used pistol at an avg pawn shop is being sold for over a hundred thousand itsso a fnn shocker eh?
Do you always revert to calling someone a "liberal" when you're asked a question you don't want to answer or put in an uncomfortable spot?
Is that a defense mechanism for you?
He's not the only one who does it. But he doesn't just revert to liberal talk when he is stumped and put on the spot. You'll see him do when others are stumped and put on the spot too.
At least that's what we are seeing happen
Quote Originally Posted by Ktrain:
Slim,
Do you always revert to calling someone a "liberal" when you're asked a question you don't want to answer or put in an uncomfortable spot?
Is that a defense mechanism for you?
He's not the only one who does it. But he doesn't just revert to liberal talk when he is stumped and put on the spot. You'll see him do when others are stumped and put on the spot too.
That's funny bowls. Not getting into it all again but suffice it to say our ideas of common sense are very different. In the 911 call, I seem to remember something along the lines of "these fool always get away" as well as other stuff that showed he was convinced that Martin was up to no good & he was going to pursue him.
There was very little in Z's story that was plausible (1 example - that he was not following Martin, just going to check a street name when there were only 3 in the area), but the difference between us is whereas I looked at at all logically & from a common sense standpoint, you seemed to start early on from a point of whatever Z said was gospel truth & worked around it from there. Whether any of it was corroborated or not. Like I said, Z got away with manslaughter but you just can't seem to accept it.
Cashin, it all can be easily explained. Zimmerman was the only one who knew the cops could be showing up any minute. Z was suspicious because it was raining and TM wasn't walking fast as most people do to avoid getting wetter. Saying these aholes always get away doesn't mean anything at all when you add in that TM didn't have a scratch on him that showed he may have been assaulted by Z.
Your common sense is severely lacking in the main ingredient.
Quote Originally Posted by cashin:
That's funny bowls. Not getting into it all again but suffice it to say our ideas of common sense are very different. In the 911 call, I seem to remember something along the lines of "these fool always get away" as well as other stuff that showed he was convinced that Martin was up to no good & he was going to pursue him.
There was very little in Z's story that was plausible (1 example - that he was not following Martin, just going to check a street name when there were only 3 in the area), but the difference between us is whereas I looked at at all logically & from a common sense standpoint, you seemed to start early on from a point of whatever Z said was gospel truth & worked around it from there. Whether any of it was corroborated or not. Like I said, Z got away with manslaughter but you just can't seem to accept it.
Cashin, it all can be easily explained. Zimmerman was the only one who knew the cops could be showing up any minute. Z was suspicious because it was raining and TM wasn't walking fast as most people do to avoid getting wetter. Saying these aholes always get away doesn't mean anything at all when you add in that TM didn't have a scratch on him that showed he may have been assaulted by Z.
Your common sense is severely lacking in the main ingredient.
That's funny bowls. Not getting into it all again but suffice it to say our ideas of common sense are very different. In the 911 call, I seem to remember something along the lines of "these fool always get away" as well as other stuff that showed he was convinced that Martin was up to no good & he was going to pursue him.
There was very little in Z's story that was plausible (1 example - that he was not following Martin, just going to check a street name when there were only 3 in the area), but the difference between us is whereas I looked at at all logically & from a common sense standpoint, you seemed to start early on from a point of whatever Z said was gospel truth & worked around it from there. Whether any of it was corroborated or not. Like I said, Z got away with manslaughter but you just can't seem to accept it.
Zimmerman was interviewed multiple times for many hours. At least one detective didn't believe his story. But couldn't find any significant instances where his answers didn't match up.
Cashin, if you think he got away with manslaughter then I have a question for you. At what point do you give a person the right to defend themselves against death or serious bodily injury?
I have to give you credit. You did have the balls to debate with me and say which side you are on.
All this time has passed and DL36 never once proclaimed if he thought Z was guilty or not. He only had the balls to comment on the people that discussed the matter. My guess is he will never have the balls to tell us and give reasons why he feels that way.
Quote Originally Posted by cashin:
That's funny bowls. Not getting into it all again but suffice it to say our ideas of common sense are very different. In the 911 call, I seem to remember something along the lines of "these fool always get away" as well as other stuff that showed he was convinced that Martin was up to no good & he was going to pursue him.
There was very little in Z's story that was plausible (1 example - that he was not following Martin, just going to check a street name when there were only 3 in the area), but the difference between us is whereas I looked at at all logically & from a common sense standpoint, you seemed to start early on from a point of whatever Z said was gospel truth & worked around it from there. Whether any of it was corroborated or not. Like I said, Z got away with manslaughter but you just can't seem to accept it.
Zimmerman was interviewed multiple times for many hours. At least one detective didn't believe his story. But couldn't find any significant instances where his answers didn't match up.
Cashin, if you think he got away with manslaughter then I have a question for you. At what point do you give a person the right to defend themselves against death or serious bodily injury?
I have to give you credit. You did have the balls to debate with me and say which side you are on.
All this time has passed and DL36 never once proclaimed if he thought Z was guilty or not. He only had the balls to comment on the people that discussed the matter. My guess is he will never have the balls to tell us and give reasons why he feels that way.
But as far as who is stupid enough? It would take someone so emotionally invested in Zimmerman that they have lost all sense of perspective or reality and when their man-crush is called out they have a compete meltdown into complete craziness.
This thread gives a good display of what an emotional Zimmerman nit looks like. At lesast he appears to be trying to put on a good display to everyone
Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:
Thx dl..I need a good to start my day...
But really who is stupid enough to shell out 120k
Someone with the money.
But as far as who is stupid enough? It would take someone so emotionally invested in Zimmerman that they have lost all sense of perspective or reality and when their man-crush is called out they have a compete meltdown into complete craziness.
This thread gives a good display of what an emotional Zimmerman nit looks like. At lesast he appears to be trying to put on a good display to everyone
Cashin, it all can be easily explained. Zimmerman was the only one who knew the cops could be showing up any minute. Z was suspicious because it was raining and TM wasn't walking fast as most people do to avoid getting wetter. Saying these aholes always get away doesn't mean anything at all when you add in that TM didn't have a scratch on him that showed he may have been assaulted by Z.
Your common sense is severely lacking in the main ingredient.
Bowls, can't get into it all again but noone ever saw the so-called sucker punch or Martin hiding or jumping out from any bushes. In fact, there were no bushes Martin could have hid behind where Z 1st said he was attacked. His story had both inconsistencies & serious implausibility in a # of areas.Yes, Z had a slightly broken nose & cuts on the back of his head & I don't doubt that Martin caused them, though who knows for sure about how the head cuts happened because again, noone saw his head being beat into concrete. You have just somehow believed everything that Z said & taken his word for it. The only guy left that really knew what happened & how and the guy who was on trial for his life who went after Martin armed as basically a vigalante who had already had to take court ordered anger mgt courses & showed in the 911 call that he thought M was trouble & going to pursue (with a gun) no matter what.
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Cashin, it all can be easily explained. Zimmerman was the only one who knew the cops could be showing up any minute. Z was suspicious because it was raining and TM wasn't walking fast as most people do to avoid getting wetter. Saying these aholes always get away doesn't mean anything at all when you add in that TM didn't have a scratch on him that showed he may have been assaulted by Z.
Your common sense is severely lacking in the main ingredient.
Bowls, can't get into it all again but noone ever saw the so-called sucker punch or Martin hiding or jumping out from any bushes. In fact, there were no bushes Martin could have hid behind where Z 1st said he was attacked. His story had both inconsistencies & serious implausibility in a # of areas.Yes, Z had a slightly broken nose & cuts on the back of his head & I don't doubt that Martin caused them, though who knows for sure about how the head cuts happened because again, noone saw his head being beat into concrete. You have just somehow believed everything that Z said & taken his word for it. The only guy left that really knew what happened & how and the guy who was on trial for his life who went after Martin armed as basically a vigalante who had already had to take court ordered anger mgt courses & showed in the 911 call that he thought M was trouble & going to pursue (with a gun) no matter what.
Cmon Ktrain. Post 132 is kinda childish. Get back on topic.
Also, if you want to tell someone to get back on topic, why not tell that to the posters that keep reverting this thread to the day that Zimmerman shot Martin? As oppose to debating the morality of Zimmerman profiting off the death of Martin.
Quote Originally Posted by 165yds:
Cmon Ktrain. Post 132 is kinda childish. Get back on topic.
Also, if you want to tell someone to get back on topic, why not tell that to the posters that keep reverting this thread to the day that Zimmerman shot Martin? As oppose to debating the morality of Zimmerman profiting off the death of Martin.
Bowls, can't get into it all again but noone ever saw the so-called sucker punch or Martin hiding or jumping out from any bushes. In fact, there were no bushes Martin could have hid behind where Z 1st said he was attacked. His story had both inconsistencies & serious implausibility in a # of areas.Yes, Z had a slightly broken nose & cuts on the back of his head & I don't doubt that Martin caused them, though who knows for sure about how the head cuts happened because again, noone saw his head being beat into concrete. You have just somehow believed everything that Z said & taken his word for it. The only guy left that really knew what happened & how and the guy who was on trial for his life who went after Martin armed as basically a vigalante who had already had to take court ordered anger mgt courses & showed in the 911 call that he thought M was trouble & going to pursue (with a gun) no matter what.
Thats all real cut cashin but he had no rage in his voice and he KNEW the cops were on their way. AND many people that have anger management problems are not murderers.
Neither one of us has skin in the game but you want him to be guilty so you try to connect dots that don't exist.
You certainly can't convict him just because there were no witnesses to corroborate his story for that brief moment.
You want him to be guilty. Just like DL36 wants to see me look bad on here. Even if the both of you have to fabricate and use conjecture to get there. smh
Quote Originally Posted by cashin:
Bowls, can't get into it all again but noone ever saw the so-called sucker punch or Martin hiding or jumping out from any bushes. In fact, there were no bushes Martin could have hid behind where Z 1st said he was attacked. His story had both inconsistencies & serious implausibility in a # of areas.Yes, Z had a slightly broken nose & cuts on the back of his head & I don't doubt that Martin caused them, though who knows for sure about how the head cuts happened because again, noone saw his head being beat into concrete. You have just somehow believed everything that Z said & taken his word for it. The only guy left that really knew what happened & how and the guy who was on trial for his life who went after Martin armed as basically a vigalante who had already had to take court ordered anger mgt courses & showed in the 911 call that he thought M was trouble & going to pursue (with a gun) no matter what.
Thats all real cut cashin but he had no rage in his voice and he KNEW the cops were on their way. AND many people that have anger management problems are not murderers.
Neither one of us has skin in the game but you want him to be guilty so you try to connect dots that don't exist.
You certainly can't convict him just because there were no witnesses to corroborate his story for that brief moment.
You want him to be guilty. Just like DL36 wants to see me look bad on here. Even if the both of you have to fabricate and use conjecture to get there. smh
Zimmerman was interviewed multiple times for many hours. At least one detective didn't believe his story. But couldn't find any significant instances where his answers didn't match up.
Cashin, if you think he got away with manslaughter then I have a question for you. At what point do you give a person the right to defend themselves against death or serious bodily injury?
I have to give you credit. You did have the balls to debate with me and say which side you are on.
All this time has passed and DL36 never once proclaimed if he thought Z was guilty or not. He only had the balls to comment on the people that discussed the matter. My guess is he will never have the balls to tell us and give reasons why he feels that way.
DL36, I know you hate answering my direct questions but what do you think about the case? Do you think Zimmerman is guilty or innocent?
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Zimmerman was interviewed multiple times for many hours. At least one detective didn't believe his story. But couldn't find any significant instances where his answers didn't match up.
Cashin, if you think he got away with manslaughter then I have a question for you. At what point do you give a person the right to defend themselves against death or serious bodily injury?
I have to give you credit. You did have the balls to debate with me and say which side you are on.
All this time has passed and DL36 never once proclaimed if he thought Z was guilty or not. He only had the balls to comment on the people that discussed the matter. My guess is he will never have the balls to tell us and give reasons why he feels that way.
DL36, I know you hate answering my direct questions but what do you think about the case? Do you think Zimmerman is guilty or innocent?
Weird that I'm brought into this now that bowslit is stumped. You have 165yds rushing in to bail him out because he is stumped and faking apart. Because if he wasn't stumped and falling apart you wouldn't see 165yds trying to step in or bowslit becoming obsessed with me.
Weird that I'm brought into this now that bowslit is stumped. You have 165yds rushing in to bail him out because he is stumped and faking apart. Because if he wasn't stumped and falling apart you wouldn't see 165yds trying to step in or bowslit becoming obsessed with me.
Bowls..believe it or not, I never cared whether he was guilty or not. Don't really get into the political or racism aspects at all. Just looked at all of it objectively & used common sense. Doesn't matter whether Z knew the cops were coming or not. My best guess is he either confronted Martin like his friend said or they ran into each other & got into a fight that ended up on the ground with Martin getting the best of it with a punch to the nose & maybe Martin hitting his head on the sidewalk a time or 2 or maybe not. Then if Martin was on top, Z rolled him over, snapped & shot him in the chest out of rage Only 4 witnesses gave accounts & 2 said M was on top & 2 said Z was - noone saw any sucker punch or Martin slamming his head into the sidewalk. And the only bushes around there were hedges for folks places & about a foot & a half tall.
Done with this for the last time. It's you who's always seemed to have a personal & vested interest in Z being innocent & frankly, it never made sense.
Bowls..believe it or not, I never cared whether he was guilty or not. Don't really get into the political or racism aspects at all. Just looked at all of it objectively & used common sense. Doesn't matter whether Z knew the cops were coming or not. My best guess is he either confronted Martin like his friend said or they ran into each other & got into a fight that ended up on the ground with Martin getting the best of it with a punch to the nose & maybe Martin hitting his head on the sidewalk a time or 2 or maybe not. Then if Martin was on top, Z rolled him over, snapped & shot him in the chest out of rage Only 4 witnesses gave accounts & 2 said M was on top & 2 said Z was - noone saw any sucker punch or Martin slamming his head into the sidewalk. And the only bushes around there were hedges for folks places & about a foot & a half tall.
Done with this for the last time. It's you who's always seemed to have a personal & vested interest in Z being innocent & frankly, it never made sense.
Bowls..believe it or not, I never cared whether he was guilty or not. Don't really get into the political or racism aspects at all. Just looked at all of it objectively & used common sense. Doesn't matter whether Z knew the cops were coming or not. My best guess is he either confronted Martin like his friend said or they ran into each other & got into a fight that ended up on the ground with Martin getting the best of it with a punch to the nose & maybe Martin hitting his head on the sidewalk a time or 2 or maybe not. Then if Martin was on top, Z rolled him over, snapped & shot him in the chest out of rage Only 4 witnesses gave accounts & 2 said M was on top & 2 said Z was - noone saw any sucker punch or Martin slamming his head into the sidewalk. And the only bushes around there were hedges for folks places & about a foot & a half tall.
Done with this for the last time. It's you who's always seemed to have a personal & vested interest in Z being innocent & frankly, it never made sense.
Actually this is where you fail. Forensics showed that Martin was on top because his shirt was hanging off his body about an inch. The can of ice Tea in the front pocket helped pull the shirt away from his skin.
All that garbage you wrote is speculation to fill your outcome. Martin didn't have so much as a bruise on him. Martin should have gone in his house rather than backtrack to confront Zimmerman.
Quote Originally Posted by cashin:
Bowls..believe it or not, I never cared whether he was guilty or not. Don't really get into the political or racism aspects at all. Just looked at all of it objectively & used common sense. Doesn't matter whether Z knew the cops were coming or not. My best guess is he either confronted Martin like his friend said or they ran into each other & got into a fight that ended up on the ground with Martin getting the best of it with a punch to the nose & maybe Martin hitting his head on the sidewalk a time or 2 or maybe not. Then if Martin was on top, Z rolled him over, snapped & shot him in the chest out of rage Only 4 witnesses gave accounts & 2 said M was on top & 2 said Z was - noone saw any sucker punch or Martin slamming his head into the sidewalk. And the only bushes around there were hedges for folks places & about a foot & a half tall.
Done with this for the last time. It's you who's always seemed to have a personal & vested interest in Z being innocent & frankly, it never made sense.
Actually this is where you fail. Forensics showed that Martin was on top because his shirt was hanging off his body about an inch. The can of ice Tea in the front pocket helped pull the shirt away from his skin.
All that garbage you wrote is speculation to fill your outcome. Martin didn't have so much as a bruise on him. Martin should have gone in his house rather than backtrack to confront Zimmerman.
Weird that I'm brought into this now that bowslit is stumped. You have 165yds rushing in to bail him out because he is stumped and faking apart. Because if he wasn't stumped and falling apart you wouldn't see 165yds trying to step in or bowslit becoming obsessed with me.
Should be a rule or maybe an unwritten rule that if you're not brave enough to tell everyone what side you're on you shouldn't be able to comment about the commentors. If that rule was already in place dl36 post count would be 10-15k lighter.
Such cowardice. Come on dl36 why is it so hard to tell us what you think about Z's guilt or innocence?
Quote Originally Posted by dl36:
Weird that I'm brought into this now that bowslit is stumped. You have 165yds rushing in to bail him out because he is stumped and faking apart. Because if he wasn't stumped and falling apart you wouldn't see 165yds trying to step in or bowslit becoming obsessed with me.
Should be a rule or maybe an unwritten rule that if you're not brave enough to tell everyone what side you're on you shouldn't be able to comment about the commentors. If that rule was already in place dl36 post count would be 10-15k lighter.
Such cowardice. Come on dl36 why is it so hard to tell us what you think about Z's guilt or innocence?
Should be a rule or maybe an unwritten rule that if you're not brave enough to tell everyone what side you're on you shouldn't be able to comment about the commentors.
I always thought posting only about the person that posted and not to the the thread topic was a rule ....it use to be ..and it was enforced..
Since,, Obama got in everything is falling apart....
Quote Originally Posted by bowlslit:
Should be a rule or maybe an unwritten rule that if you're not brave enough to tell everyone what side you're on you shouldn't be able to comment about the commentors.
I always thought posting only about the person that posted and not to the the thread topic was a rule ....it use to be ..and it was enforced..
Since,, Obama got in everything is falling apart....
I mean he's not a complete coward...but I wouldn't be surprised if he squats to pee.
Gotta hand it to the fella, it takes a brave....person to take that chin-butt out in public....and Im not even talking bout that cow lick ta boot. Lawd have mercy!
Still no answer to my direct questions.
I mean he's not a complete coward...but I wouldn't be surprised if he squats to pee.
Gotta hand it to the fella, it takes a brave....person to take that chin-butt out in public....and Im not even talking bout that cow lick ta boot. Lawd have mercy!
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