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whats that last line say??????
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

 Not trying to upset you Tagsrock, at one time back in September you were new, as I am with my first post.  Don't make these Threads about me being new... I Change the L-word to "love" this game.  I decided to post today, I started posting on NCAA-B with an under pick there Saturday.  Good Luck to you Tagsrock, you are the Veteran, I am the newby... we are on opposite sides tonight.  I stated my reasons for my pick, I look forward to learning more of yours.   

I am locked in at 40... we will see. Good Luck.... 



We learn quick about the L word here....

GL with your pick..
 
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does the "over" trend apply here tonight guys? the total seems to be set soo low in my opinion.  anybody have any good reasoning for playing the UNDER besides philly running the clock when they get the lead... i'm thinking philly will blitz dorsey like crazy and turn turnovers into points.
 
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MNF never goes under
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colts covered against cincy rusty, but never the less it doesnt happen often and it seems like a whole storm of points...however, at philly, they have to win, cleve without both their golden boys, they could get stomped but.........
 
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Take the Cleveland Browns and the under on a tease?
       +15 1/2+ 6 = 21 1/2   also  39 1/2 +6=45 1/2
 
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This game is going to shock everyone!!!
Philly is just not that good. Cleveland will win this game outright!!!
 
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Clevland 27
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Definatly OVER now after the line moving up. anyone have any input why u should bet the UNDER? Im thinking philidelphia gets at least 30 on there own.
 
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the under is so low because the browns arent going to score
 
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6 point teaser

Browns +22.5
Over 34

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Macks where are u getting your amazing lines?
 
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Browns 1H...

MNF

Just do the math...
 
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brandon langs free pick is the under......thats one reason its getting pounded.......im going with the under because phillys defense is nasty good and clevelands d is better than their o.......i also like philly minus the points.......Eagles 27........Browns 10
 
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Quote Originally Posted by bvent:

You see the post above mine...this guy is predicting 28-9...because he needs that to cover. IMO you will see a lot of different sets from Cleveland. They will run the ball, run reverses, direct snap to Cribbs and much more.

Simply put, yes, the Browns can score 9 points in this game off three FG's. Can Philly put up more than 24? I'm not too sure but if I can buy this line up to 17 I am taking it. 70% chance of rain and 15 mph winds forecasted from 9 pm on. Philly wins here but I don't see them covering 17 points. The beat 3 teams this year by 16 or more points... 19 (Seattle Week 9), 16 (San Fran Week 7),  35 (STL Week1). I'll take my chances that the Browns DEF holds Philly to 3 TD's....Good Luck!

If betting games was as easy as a lot of you make it...you would all be winning each week...but I don't think that's the case but TAKE PHILLY AND THE LOCK!

I took Tenn -14 last week... That won. All i'm saying is I'd put more on PHI scoring more than 3 td's than cleveland scoring 1 td. And when it comes to football you should never bet on the worse team in a match up. The best way to make money is to find favorites that will cover the spread.

 
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Browns +16
 
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Quote Originally Posted by gypsyangler:

 Not trying to upset you Tagsrock, at one time back in September you were new, as I am with my first post.  Don't make these Threads about me being new... I Change the L-word to "love" this game.  I decided to post today, I started posting on NCAA-B with an under pick there Saturday.  Good Luck to you Tagsrock, you are the Veteran, I am the newby... we are on opposite sides tonight.  I stated my reasons for my pick, I look forward to learning more of yours.   

I am locked in at 40... we will see. Good Luck.... 

ahh no offence bro, if you watch this board closely you can usually see what way the games gona go. my statement wasnt directed at you my friend at all. bol to you to tonight.
 
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And the public actually isn't hammering PHI hard, as 42% of bets have come in for CLE (not covers consensus). So you have to ask yourself with such an even distribution of bets why the 2 pt jump for PHI.
 
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the browns have not scored a  TD since 1943 and no way eagles score 30 plus points.  under is the play here.

where is brian sipe when you need him.
 
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This is a pile of points for a MNF game.  Philly has played with abandon, since "Donny-Gate".  They're likely to win, but I question that they'll be able cover.

DAWGS   [+16]
 
 
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O.K. - it's up to 16 - by my own "Over 2 touchdown" rule (of which I've won every game this season so far) I have to take the "Pot" Brownies - by rule - so everybody - bet as you wish, but the Lions covered last Sunday, and so has every "over 2 touchdown" game this entire season - GLTA.....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Boludojones:

O.K. - it's up to 16 - by my own "Over 2 touchdown" rule (of which I've won every game this season so far) I have to take the "Pot" Brownies - by rule - so everybody - bet as you wish, but the Lions covered last Sunday, and so has every "over 2 touchdown" game this entire season - GLTA.....

This one opened as only a 2 td favorite tho, while DET was dogged by 17 from the beginnning. Despite what ppl say DET should have never been dogged by that much in the first place, they aren't the worse team in football right now despite the record.

 
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Where are the points coming from to support the Over ?  Philly would have to cover by themselves right ?  And, if they go up by a large margin, say 24-0, then they are going to run, and use clock.  I can't see the points.  Anyone ?
 
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must win for philly...clevelands def is decent....but i dont know how they score at all..........
PHILLY/UNDER GL ALL
 
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Posted: #124
Quote Originally Posted by rusty103:

15 1/2 is way too many points to give in any game in the NFL. If anyone has a stat on speads over 14 I would like to see it.I would think it would be like 75% with the points in the last 5 or 6 years.

Using stats back to 2004 according to NFL Picker
                     Cleveland           Philadelphia
                    (grass team)        (turf team)
straight up record: 28-49-0 (.363)      47-33-1 (.586)
home record:        17-22-0 (.435)      26-15-0 (.634)
road record:        11-27-0 (.289)      21-18-1 (.537)
grass record:       24-37-0 (.393)      13-10-0 (.565)
turf record:        4-12-0 (.250)       34-23-1 (.594)
road turf record:   4-12-0 (.250)       8-8-1 (.500)
road grass record:  7-15-0 (.318)       13-10-0 (.565)
against the spread: 41-36-0 (.532)      42-38-1 (.524)
home ATS record:    21-18-0 (.538)      20-20-1 (.500)
road ATS record:    20-18-0 (.526)      22-18-0 (.550)
grass ATS record:   34-27-0 (.557)      12-11-0 (.521)
turf ATS record:    7-9-0 (.437)        30-27-1 (.525)
road turf ATS:      7-9-0 (.437)        10-7-0 (.588)
as road fav ATS:    4-1-0 (.800)        11-11-0 (.500)
as road dog ATS:    16-17-0 (.484)      11-7-0 (.611)
as home fav ATS:    10-7-0 (.588)       18-16-1 (.528)
as home dog ATS:    11-11-0 (.500)      2-4-0 (.333)
road grass ATS:     13-9-0 (.590)       12-11-0 (.521)
road pf-pa (t/amv): 670-905 (41/-6.18)  888-862 (43/0.65)
home pf-pa (t/amv): 700-799 (38/-2.53)  982-748 (42/5.7)
grass pf-pa(t/amv): 1062-1279 (38/-3.55)523-506 (44/0.73)
turf pf-pa (t/amv): 308-425 (45/-7.31)  1347-1104 (42/4.18)
pf-pa (totals/amv): 1370-1704 (39/-4.33)1870-1610 (42/3.2)

PHI versus CLE:    1-0-0 (1.000)      
PHI versus CLE ATS:    0-1-0 (.000)


Visiting team: Cleveland   
Home team:     Philadelphia
Favorite:      Philadelphia
Spread:        14.0
O/U Line:      38.0
O/U Pick:      UNDER (record for this line: 20-14-1 (.585))
ATS Pick:      Cleveland     (Confidence: 55.56%)
Historical Spread ATS (Road Teams): 4-3-2 (.555)


MultiPick Data: (uses data for lines within .5 point + or - )

O/U MultiPick: UNDER (record for these lines: 69-57-1 (.547))
ATS MultiPick: Cleveland     (Confidence: 57.69%)
Historical Spread ATS (Road Teams): 14-10-2 (.576)
 
 
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God yesterday sucked, 1-3 atl let me down, biggest bet, but i didnt take the golden rule, buy the fckn hook if your not sure in a divisional rivalry.  ANy ways final play tonight is based on 2 and 0 browns monday night, dorsey shows up even though hes butt buddies with Dencol..
 
BROWNIES PLUS 16.5
OVER 39, BOUGHT HOOK. GOOD LUCK BOYS
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