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Quote Originally Posted by Barnstorm:

I only had $34!

Quote Originally Posted by pat_d:

another one bites the dust

$35 cash out fee, i guess they get to keep my $25 balance

Quote Originally Posted by Ed-Collins:

The winner always pays the juice.

(I realize my explanation below won't convince anyone who already has their mind made up, but here goes.)

Assume I make a bet for x amount of dollars.  You don't know what x is.  Assume I lose.  I'm out x dollars.  Did I pay any juice?  You don't know and there is no way to determine it.  There may have been no juice at all.  For example, I may have betting x amount of dollars to win x amount of dollars with a friend.  x might be 110 dollars and if so you might assume I'm betting 110 to win 100, but you don't know for sure.  And if you don't know what I expect to get back, you can't say for sure I'm paying any juice or that there is any juice.

Now, again assume I make a bet for x amount of dollars.  This time I win the bet.  And again, until I tell you how much I won, you still don't know a thing.  But if tell you the total amount returned to me, including my bet, is x * 1.909, NOW you can determine WHAT the juice was and that "I" paid it.

I paid it because with no juice I should have gotten back (x * 2).

It makes no difference at all if the money is paid up front or via a local bookie who just pays the winners afterwords.  That's completely irrelevant. 

Winners always pay the juice. They always pay it because they always get back LESS than if there was no juice at all.  And the amount they get back less, is the amount of juice they paid.

Quote Originally Posted by kreatture:

The number of games you wager on should only be determined by the actual number of games where you find a high percentage edge in your favor.. There should be no "cut-off" at 2, 3, or 4 games.. if you believe you have a strong edge in 5, then wager on 5.

If you're good at handicapping, then believe in it..

Cheers