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Quote Originally Posted by Martelxo92:
Only mayhem and complete pandemonium will Ohio St get in. Probably like a 5% chance. UGA has zero good wins this year. If they lose to Bammer I think they are out. UGA played no good teams this year. None. Michigan is in regardless. Texas is in with a win. Oregon/Wash winner in Bammer/UGA winner is in FSU beats Louisville they are in above OSU.
Using your exact logic... Bama also has zero good wins |
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@Cornholio711 And why did UM get those runs late in the game? Trenches and depth... damn the weather, physicality wears guys down over the course of the game. OSU has gotten softer and more finesse each year under Ryan Day.
I agree UGA will have to score, I think the winner here will be around 35-40. No doubt UGA will probably give up 2-3 long plays in the passing game; going to need safeties to play a good game or OSU will really put some pressure on. A key matchup to watch will be UGA's non-WR weapons making catches. Bowers, Washington, and McIntosh almost always end up with an LB trying to cover and it rarely works. Monken likes to make LBs run and if those intermediate throws to TEs are connecting early, the OSU defense will be in a bad spot.
We'll see about the rude awakening... |
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
Quote Originally Posted by BettingMessiah: I would not be shocked but I really don’t think it will happen . They are soooo good and are imo are out coached One thing is certain, UGA is not gonna out coach anybody, just like how they didn't against Mizzou, kentucky or even kent state.. and they were letting GT hang around WAYYYY too long.. because of their coaching, they simply just out talent teams and wear them down. But no one ever forces them to throw by scoring enough on them to do so.. Ohio State is the only team they've played to meet the freeze point in talent all year that could move it on them and keep them on the field on defense. Georgia coaching is why they usually stop even trying to score offensively in games and they just haven't played any QB's or talented rosters that can make them pay for doing that. Look at the last 3 uga losses with Bennett, all of them ended up with him having to be a regular QB and make plays with his arm and he tossed it to the other team and it got ugly in them all.
So every close game anyone ever plays is due to poor coaching? Saban has a significantly better roster so did he get out coached by Josh Heupel, Jimbo Fisher, Brian Kelley, and Steve Sarkisian all in the same year? That was certainly a narrative early in Kirby's career but he's gotten much better as an in game coach. Part of what looks like "bad coaching" is UGA also playing more underclassmen than just about anybody. I don't know that Kirby is better than Day as an in-game coach but it's obvious that he's leading a much better program. OSU has done nothing but regress under Day.
OSU has the talent on offense to make it a shootout. They do not, however, have the talent on the other side to stop UGA's offense. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Cornholio711:
@mrusso Has Georgia played a defense remotely close to as good as Ohio State? The best defenses statistically were Kentucky and Missouri who both held Georgia to under 30. Ky 16. Missouri 26. Tennessee's mediocre defense held them to 27. Also i don't think many people actually watched the Ohio State Vs UM game. It was a 1 score game half way through the 4th quarter. They broke 2 long runs late in the game making it look worse than what it was. OSU still put up 500 Yds on UM despite turnovers and penalties And not having there first 3 string rb's. They played a linebacker at RB. UM defense is statiscally better than Georgia's in pretty much every category outside of ppg. More sacks, tackles for loss, less y/a rush, pass efficiency defense... I think Ohio State is a bad matchup for Georgia inside the cozy dome on the fast track. Both games OSU lost to Michigan were in cold windy conditions. I think the southern Cali QB and their passing attack is affected by the cold weather. I will be on the OSU TT over and lean OSU. I have to believe they get at least one of their top 2 rb's back in the next month.
UGA stopped scoring at 27... Tennessee didn't hold them to anything. It was a bloodbath, started raining in the 3rd quarter so UGA only threw 4 passes after halftime.
Health works both ways as well; Kendall Milton should be 100% and AD Mitchell (Georgia's best WR) should be more available as well (he saw limited action vs GT and LSU)
I don't think UGA winning is a foregone conclusion, that's why they play the game and we've seen Georgia get sloppy a few times this year; but I think UGA has a significant advantage in the trenches and with depth all around. Unless OSU can get out to a 14+ lead early, they don't have the bodies to go blow for blow with the physicality of a Georgia (as seen vs Michigan the last 2 years). If both teams play their absolute best game, UGA wins handily.
I would look to bet OSU live if UGA scores first. Point total lean OVER but it's hard to bet totals with this UGA team because most games they dictate how they want to win. |
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@GASportsDoc
Rewind to 2021 when a boatload of UGA fans were cursing Kirby and Todd Monken because there was no possible way this Stetson kid should be playing over JT Daniels... 2 transfers and a national championship later, I think it's safe to say there's not a conspiracy |
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Stroud is a fine talent... and OSU is obviously a good program. But they have demonstrably regressed under Ryan Day and no longer have the physical or mental toughness needed to compete on the big stage. |
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Quote Originally Posted by jwheels86:
Quote Originally Posted by bookieassassin: NO - I would be surprised if Dawgs win at any (margin) at all ..... Im an SEC guy, and as some may remember my largest play of the season was on UGA in the rematch against Bama last year. I think the question that people need to ask themselves about this years Georgia team, what is the most talented roster they played against this year? Have they played any team this year that could even remotely come close to the talent and depth threshold of them? They had one of if not the most mundane and favorable SEC schedules i've ever seen, and the SEC is not very good on top of that because the West has now fallen below the East and about 5 years ago that seemed like an impossibility. This is a challenge they've yet to face, everyone can keep hanging onto the last time they saw Buckeyes play, but that's not how football works and you'll be in for a shock the next time they take the field. Do I expect Ohio State to win? no, but I think there is a likely chance it could happen and the line is not near enough points if people think UGA is so much better than everyone else.
Let me take off my UGA hat for a second. How do you measure the true, quality depth of a football team? It pretty much has to be the eye test... you could use the 247 talent composite to evaluate current rosters but that doesn't take into effect development and scheme. It also matters where that depth is; 2 and 3 deep at WR or DL?
Remember, especially according to the media, this was supposed to be a *rebuilding* year for UGA losing 15 to the draft and 13 more to the portal. From that perspective, UGA should be lacking depth with that many quality players gone.
The problem for Ohio State is they thrive on one style of football, high-flying finesse football. Georgia can win several ways and will dictate the style of the game to their opponent. Tennessee wanted to be in a shootout; Georgia turned it into a brawl... but as seen in the SECCG, UGA is content with needing to score 50 as well. We really only have one data point that's close to this matchup and it is OSU/Mich and I think I could make a case that UGA has more talented players on defense (and maybe offense too) than Michigan. OSU really needed JSN back to maximize the pressure they put on DBs and he's unavailable. Every offense with a pulse that OSU faced put up 400+ yards and 30+ points (Michigan, Penn St, Maryland). |
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Quote Originally Posted by Longbeach102:
@UGACLP1995 Your right. We can't stand it. But we're Alabama. And we're spoiled. And that's the way it is when your the best
Tell me you became an Alabama fan in '08 without tell me |
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Quote Originally Posted by Longbeach102:
@OlDirtyBaztid I'm a bama fan and season ticket holder. I'd rather take an enema than play in this bowl game. My god it's and embarrassment to our fans.... We opt out!!! Nothing against Kansas St. They deserve to be there. But heck put Tulane or Lsu. Just wish we would not play
Is this a serious post? I'm having trouble comprehending the unfathomable level of arrogance needed to be "too good" or "above" a NY6 Bowl Game, especially one with as much SEC history as the Sugar. I'm a Georgia fan and I hope Kirby matches Saban's run of success but I pray UGA fans are never this out of touch with reality.
This was also supposed to be a "rebuilding" year (to use Saban's words) for UGA so Bama fans might want to get used to being left out of the playoff until it goes to 12. |
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Quote Originally Posted by GASportsDoc:
The best thing happened to Georgia Saturday. They got shredded whether it was the starters or not (and yes, Ringo was still in the game at CB). For those that know Kirby, he will drill this for 3 straight weeks. Georgia's defense will be ready to play, no doubt. And everyone says it is not the same defense as last year, agreed. Last years team gave up about 10 ppg. this year's team regressed to averaging giving up 11 ppg.
This... LSU just gave Kirby something to be intense about for an entire month. Georgia is a better version of Michigan and Ohio St does not have the physical or mental toughness to deal with it for 60 minutes; Ryan Day has made them one of the softest programs in the country.
That being said, the OVER is the best play here. UGA's DBs will be exposed a few times undoubtedly, but OSU just doesn't have the dudes to cover UGA's playmakers. 38-31 UGA |
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Quote Originally Posted by green33:
@MuchoMoney You really think Bama would get smoked by anybody other than Georgia your smoking something bama was a couple pts away from being 12-0 and then ppl would be picking them to win it all I’ll say it again nobody had a shot in hell to beat Georgia out of the teams who are left in the playoffs
They were also a couple points away from being 8-4... This bad part is this was supposed to be one of the best Alabama teams ever, at least that's what we were told in the preseason.
Teams are always trying to poach Bama coordinators for head coaching jobs. The fact there is little to no buzz around Golding or O'Brien tells you all you need to know IMO. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Longbeach102:
@buddygurt If tcu and USC lose. Osu and Bama r in. That's a fact.
That is not a fact at all lol, that is your opinion. TCU will need to get absolutely blown out to get left out of the playoff. USC loses and Ohio St is in. Bama only has a very outside shot. |
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Quote Originally Posted by bigred84:
The Vols arent getting in....
And neither is Bama... Committee would have ranked them 5th if they still had a shot. |
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Quote Originally Posted by TxRangers:
I have news for everyone. If Michigan or Georgia loses, they aren't in the playoffs. The committee is not putting Georgia in if they lose to a 3 loss LSU team. And they're not putting Michigan in if they lose to a 4 loss Purdue team. Ohio State and Alabama moves up. Or even Tennessee may get in. But Michigan is definitely out to a 4 loss Purdue team. Georgia would be out too. I mean, Texas A&M beat LSU, now Georgia loses to LSU. Georgia would be toast. But one little small problem. Georgia and Michigan ain't losing Saturday.
Just admit you don't know ball if you're going to spout off a take like that |
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Quote Originally Posted by Ezfootball:
When was the last time Georgia won and covered 17 points on sec championship game ?. I’m from Atlanta and I’m going to the game this week. 17 points against lsu is too much.
What a take... when is the last time an SECCG had a line this big? |
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@LonghornHoosier LSU is out regardless... and I personally think UGA is in regardless barring an absolute thrashing in Atlanta (which would be unimaginable) |
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@BennyIcers
11-1 Ohio State has a better resume than 10-2 Bama. |
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Bama has zero wins over top 20 teams in the latest AP. OSU has 2, including top 10 Penn State. All of Ohio State's wins are by double digits, Bama played 3 1-score games. And most important, Bama has 2 losses to OSU's 1.
I just don't see how Bama leapfrogs the Buckeyes. Even if USC and TCU lose, a 12-1 TCU might still get the 4 seed. Would be a perfect year for the BCS so we can just let UGA and Michigan play for the natty and get it over with. |
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
Like the USC pick...I will probably be against you on LSU...That TAMU loss was not an anomaly...They are a good but not great team...Boute the WR is great but not elite...Daniels was injured during the game, and he can be contained...GA plays its best in these situations...Either GA or Michigan are best and most complete teams in college football this season...With a month to prepare and recover, I think Kirby Smart will let the offense score...I cap this game at GA -21 plus...Good Luck on your other picks...
What we've seen all year is 2 things: UGA plays both down to a lesser opponent but they also get up for the big opponents. Sloppy games vs Mizzou, Kent St, and Kentucky... complete domination against Oregon and Tennessee. When the lights are bright, all those 5* recruits start playing like it... |
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Quote Originally Posted by NewDarkDay:
regular season is over tcu should not get penalized if they lose a xtra game jthat they have to play for being best team in big 12 thats just plain absurd
I agree. You could make a case that being 11-1 but not having to play a conference championship isn't the worst spot to be. I despise the fact that USC could play themselves OUT of the playoffs but Ohio State could sit at home and get IN.
Quote Originally Posted by Sea007EX:
Late November football is just different. LSU is a prelude to what we will see a lot when the playoffs expand. LSU had Nothing to play for yesterday and it showed. No pride. Zero urgency. I would rather keep it at 4 if that is the case. The SEC West champ should never lose to the worst team in the division in the last game of the season under any circumstances.
They had nothing to play for?! They were ranked 5th... a TCU and USC loss and the obvious OSU/MICH loser and LSU could have been the first 2-loss team in the playoffs. If they had zero pride or urgency, it certainly wasn't because they didn't have anything to play for. I think LSU is what they were all season... an average team that won a few close games. Loss to FSU, 4 points over Auburn, Loss to Tenn, gave up 35 to Florida, 1 point over Bama, 3 points over Arkansas, and a 2 TD loss at home to A&M. |
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