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replied to Bellator 106 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Hey Mr, interested to hear your thoughts on the Riggs/Bronzoulis fight. We've disagreed a few times before and this again is one of those cases. Riggs is much better at every single facet of MMA than Bronzoulis and outside of a freak knockout, I don't really see how Riggs loses this fight. I know Riggs is a head case, but his "C" game beats Bronzoulis' "A" game on most nights. He has a clear advantage in striking, wrestling, jitz as well as a better gas tank. Don't get me wrong, Bronzoulis had a nice run on the show, but if he doesn't knock Riggs out in the first round, the guy looks like he's swinging in slow motion in rounds two and three. Again, maybe I'm missing something, and I respect your opinion, so would love to hear your thought process. Thanks, and good luck with the rest of your card. View Post \| View Thread	MR219	15	November 02, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Fight Night 26 in Mixed Martial Arts Siler baby!! Lets hit another dog in Yuri. I have Holloway and Pickett in next two, will be more than happy to get a split. Mcdonald line is at - 310 which is insane!! View Post \| View Thread	ctm1985	14	August 17, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to FN 26 Breakdown (Detailed) in Mixed Martial Arts Sonnen(-125) vs Shogun I get it, I get it, not the greatest of Main Events, but its two guys who will probably end up UFC Hall of Famers and it could turn out to be a fun fight. Let's be honest, most of the audience will be hammered by fight number 13 and if the rest of the card lives up to the hype, nobody will care if this fight turns out to be a snoozefest. Chael is the middleweight version of Uriah Faber. He beats everyone they put in front of him except for the Champ. Over the last five years, he's beaten Filho, Stann,Bisping, Marquardt and Okami. I lean towards thinking he can beat a washed up Shogun as well but this is a tricky fight because Chael's days as a contender are over and he's already transitioning to commentating, so I doubt he trained for this fight like he has for others in the past. For Shogun, this is all he has and reports are that his striking is much more technical after working with Freddie Roach this summer. I will probably not make a play on this fight as there are too many unknown variables but if I had to pick a winner I'd have to go with Chael by decision. View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	10	August 16, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to FN 26 Breakdown (Detailed) in Mixed Martial Arts Matt Brown(-150) vs Mike Pyle In a battle of two aging Welterweights that have recently caught fire, Matt Brown will have to answer once and for all if he has fixed the whole in his game that has plagued him throughout his career. Brown has had a major resurgence of late, but while all of the opponents in his recent win streak seemed to be tailor made to his style, with Mike Pyle, that couldn't be further from the truth. Brown can bang with anyone at 170, but once the fight goes to the ground, his White belt in BJJ becomes apparent and he has been forced to tap an alarming nine times! Enter Mike Pyle and his 16 wins coming by way of Submission and it sounds like Mr. Brown may be breaking into the uncharted territory of double digit taps come Saturday night. At 37, Pyle is no spring chicken, but after getting embarrassed by Rory McDonald, he has reeled off four straight W's and made some amazing comebacks in fights with Josh Neer and Rick Story, when it looked like he had one foot out the door and was on his way to retirement. The difference is, if Brown gets him on the ropes, he'll do what the other two couldn't, and will finish him. Tough fight to call, if Brown can keep it standing he should be able to finish Pyle but if Pyle can somehow get him to the mat that too should be all she wrote. Gonna stay away from this one and just enjoy the fight as I don't see any real value for either side. Faber(-265) vs Alcantara I've been looking forward to this fight more so than any on the card. That being said if Faber fights a smart fight it could get real boring, real fast. Faber is a stud and can win fights standing or with his wrestling game, and that versatility is what has kept him near the top of every division in which he has fought. That being said, he has only one way to win this fight and that is to implement his wrestling game and do so as fast as possible. Yuri Alcantara is the best striker in the UFC that nobody knows about. If Faber makes the mistake of trying to trade with Alcantara, he'll find out what it took Ricardo Lamas all of three minutes to find out....its a bad idea. Alcantara is the definition of a finisher and while he has 12 submissions to his credit, his striking is honestly the scariest I've seen from anyone not named Anderson Silva or Anthony Pettis. He throws everything with the worst of intentions and I'm praying that Faber at least tries to stand and trade with him in the first round so we can all see some fireworks. Sadly, I'm sure Faber saw the tape of the Hacran Dias fight and will do his best to implement the same strategy in this one. The line here is too high on Faber and while I think he probably grinds out a decision in this one, I will be placing a small bet on Alcantara because there is still a ton of value at +225. Overeem(-235) vs Browne This one is simple, if Reem is in great shape and trained his behind off, he is way too much for Brown. But if he comes in out of shape with terrible cardio like he did against Bigfoot, then Browne has a great shot. Look, we all know that Reem's last fight against Bigfoot was probably the first time he's fought clean in a loooong time, but even still he dominated that fight and had he shown a little respect, would have won a ho hum decision and fought for he title soon after. But he fought stupid and paid the price. His appearance at the weigh ins should tell you all you need to know, as the difference in body type from the Lesner fight to the Bigfoot fight, was like night and day. He seems to be saying the right things coming in which is the antithesis compared to the Bigfoot fight, so while he should destroy Browne, I'll wait until the weigh ins to make my decision on whether or not he warrants a play. Browne is by no means a slouch, he's a big athletic dude and if he connects, Reem doesn't have the greatest of chins so it could be lights out, but Browne has never faced someone like Reem before and is used to being the most athletic guy in the cage. How he reacts when he isn't, will tell the story, but I feel this story will have a bad ending for Travis Browne. View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	10	August 16, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to FN 26 Breakdown (Detailed) in Mixed Martial Arts Michael McDonald(-190) vs Brad Pickett Has all the potential of a FOTN candidate, with Pickett looking to keep things on the winning track after a closely contested win by decision over Mike Easton this past April. McDonald is looking to bounce back after a tough fight with Barao where he looked like he just wasn't quite ready for the big time. At 22, McDonald has as bright a future as any in MMA, but the bottom line is he hasn't really beaten anybody of relevance yet. A guy who's most impressive win is a split decision over Chris Cariaso, should in no way,shape, or form be a 2-1 favorite over a fighter the caliber of "One Punch" Pickett. I have this fight as a 50/50 type fight so I'm inclined again to take Pickett at +170 just based purely off of value. I honestly have no idea how this fight will play out. McDonald no doubt has the power advantage, but if Pickett can avoid the big shot, he should be able to outwork McDonald en route to a decision victory. Trouble is, Pickett loves to sit in the pocket and bang and that could be his undoing here as McDonald hits more like a Lightweight than a Bantamweight. Pickett hasn't been knocked out since his second fight which was almost decade ago, so I'm taking my chances with the dog here and hoping he's got one more run in him to get to a title shot. Lauzon(-225) vs Johnson Another FOTN candidate, as is any fight that Lauzon is in, both guys have been in some very exciting fights of late while unfortunately coming up on the wrong end of them. Johnson is most likely fighting for his UFC life here and doing so against a guy like Lauzon is not the ideal situation for any fighter. While Johnson dominates the lower level guys and can't get over the hump against the middle tier guys, Lauzon dominates the middle tier guys like Varner and Guillard and can't get over the hump against the top tier guys like Pettis and Miller. Again all this spells trouble for Johnson and if you're a fan of his, you may want to head over to the UFC website and get a good luck at his picture/profile, because its probably not gonna be up very much longer. I don't usually lay the juice on anything over 2-1, but with Lauzon inside the distance only being -145, it makes more sense to just lay the -225 and hope this fight plays out the way I envision it. It should be a highly entertaining first round and as long as Lauzon doesn't get caught, he should be able to finish the fight on the ground sometime in the next two rounds if he isn't able to do so in the first. Will have a nice sized bet on Lauzon in this one. Hall(-420) vs Howard In another highly anticipated fight, Uriah Hall tries to take his first step in living up to the hype that he created during his time in TUF. As the biggest favorite on the card, Hall is expected to crush Howard on move on to bigger and better things. That being said, laying -420 on a guy who is a well documented head case, in a fight where all the pressure is on him, ummm no thanks. Howard is a tough vet who is hungry to prove he belongs back in the UFC and while he is definitely the less talented fighter, he may be worth a shot at +335 from a pure value standpoint. Howard is tough to finish with above average strikers like Matt Brown and Thiago Alves unable to finish Howard in his earlier stint in the UFC. This leads me to look at Hall by decision and at +220, I see a ton of value in that line. This is one of those weird scenarios where I see value in Howard at +335 yet also see value in Hall by decision at +220. I'm currently leaning towards taking Hall by decision at +220, figuring his speed will be too much for Howard but I'm not looking forward to having to hold my breath for 15 minutes while watching what I'm sure will be countless spinning hook/heel kicks. View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	10	August 16, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to FN 26 Breakdown (Detailed) in Mixed Martial Arts Brandao(-300) vs Daniel Pineda Pineda is coming off an impressive submission win over the overrated Justin Lawrence and takes on the dangerous and fun to watch Brandao in a quick turnaround fight for both fighters, having both fought in April. Brandao may go down as one of the scariest fighters ever on TUF and in my opinion Pineda will not have much to offer Diego if this fight stays standing. With 12 of his 18 wins coming via submission, its no secret where Pineda wants this fight to take place. While we all think of Brandao as a killer on the feet, he's far from a slouch on the mat, as he holds a black belt in BJJ, so I have a hard time figuring out how in fact Pineda can win this fight. I think Brandao wins and wins impressively here but rather than laying the -300, I am leaning towards taking Brandao inside the distance at -130. Pineda's has 27 fights and only two have gone to decision, couple that with Diego's approach and improved cardio over his last few fights, and it may be a short night for Pineda in this one. Will be most likely making a play on Diego inside the distance in this one. Mike Brown(-200) vs Steven Siler This is the only fight on the televised card that has the makings of a stinker. I wish it was on Facebook right after the Nijem-Vick fight, but lets see if we can find some value here to make it interesting. Mr. Brown is definitely in the twilight of what has been an impressive career. Dude was a monster in the WEC and was single-handedly responsible for Uriah Faber moving to Bantamweight after beating him twice. Unfortunately, he hasn't been the same since losing his belt while getting KTFO by Jose Aldo. Brown has been out of the cage for over a year now and he will be greeted back into it by a hungry Siler. I'll be the first to admit that I took Siler for granted while on TUF and continued to do so while he proved me wrong in his first few fights in the UFC. The kid is crafty and just finds a way to get it done. Siler is 17-3 over his last 20 contests and two of those losses were to Chad Mendes and Darren Elkins, so I personally am done taking him for granted. I cashed in on his last two wins and I think we have a live dog here against the 37 year old Brown. Brown in his prime probably murders Siler, but lucky for us, Brown is past his prime and is facing a hungry Siler, so I will take Siler at +170 alllll day. I loved the over total rounds in this fight before the line came out, but once it did it was a definite no play. The over 2.5 rounds was -260 which is a crazy juice to lay for a total on any fight. The only fight in recent memory I can remember being that high was any fight involving Mighty Mouse Johnson. So not touching the total, but will have a play on Siler for sure. Conor McGregor(-300) vs Max Holloway There hasn't been this much hype around a newcomer to the UFC since Kevin Ferguson aka Kimbo Slice joined the cast of TUF. Luckily for Dana, McGregor is much more skilled and should have some staying power. This line however is a joke. This is a clear indication of the hype affecting the betting odds. McGregor was -150 in his fight against Brimage and now is fighting a much tougher opponent in Holloway, yet he's twice the favorite coming in as the heavy 3-1 choice! Something doesn't add up here and while McGregor may in fact be the real deal, nobody in their right mind should lay 3-1 on a striker vs striker match up with the underdog having the much more polished striking game no less. I'm already a fan of McGregor and can't wait to see him fight again, but I will without a doubt be betting on Holloway here. Conor is no doubt a killer and may destroy Holloway in the first just as he did with Brimage, I mean I don't even think the guy is aware that these fights are three rounds as he's never had to answer the bell for the third round in his career. But this fight is almost guaranteed to stay standing and if you're telling me I can have the more technical striker who has the size advantage at +250, then I will take that bet every single time. I don't see Holloway finishing McGregor and if he wins it will most likely come via decision and I can currently get Holloway to win via decision at +700 so I will be all over that as well. This is a clear case of what I was talking about in the opening paragraph. I think McGregor will probably catch Holloway and put him to sleep at some point, but the value on Holloway here is far to great to pass up and this line is clearly inflated because of the hype surrounding McGregor. Just a side note, I will probably wait until right before fight time to put these plays in because the line as well as the hype around Conor will only grow in the next 36 hours leading into the fight. View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	10	August 16, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic FN 26 Breakdown (Detailed) in Mixed Martial Arts I've been excited for this card since it was announced, and yes the main event is lacking, but from top to bottom I can't remember a card I was more excited about and that was stacked with so many Fight of the Night candidates. It's also a great card from a gambling standpoint as there is only one fight out of 13 where a fighter is more than a 3-1 favorite. Here is my breakdown: Nijem(-175) vs Vick This is literally the only fight on the card that I am not looking forward to seeing, but it also offers one of the best values on the card in my eyes. We haven't seen anything from Vick since his TUF season and that's because he literally hasn't fought since. Vick if you don't remember was the incredibly lanky lightweight that was part of a few shocking upsets on his season, taking out Daron Cruickshank and Joe Proctor before losing to eventual winner Chiesa in the semi's. The win over Cruickshank who has been somewhat impressive in the UFC since, was more of a fluke knockout, but he dominated Proctor on the feet en route to the huge upset. If this fight stays standing, Vick should dominate the fight with his jab and ridiculous reach advantage that he'll have over Nijem. The last time we saw Nijem, his eyes were rolling into the back of his head after the flash knockout by Myles Jury. Nijem is an average striker at best but he holds a huge advantage in the wrestling department against Vick here and outside of getting caught going for a takedown, I see him dominating Vick from start to finish. Nijem has great cardio and couple that with the fact that Vick hasn't fought in over 15 months and this has 30-27 Nijem written all over it. Now Nijem doesn't have the greatest chin, but Vick doesn't exactly throw with bad intentions and outside of getting caught with a knee while shooting just like Cruickshank did, I look for Nijem to take advantage of Vick's weak takedown defense and for Vick to be fighting from his back for a majority of this fight. Will definitely be making a play on Nijem here. OSP(-300) vs Cody Donovan Donovan had an impressive UFC debut, knocking out Nick Penner at the end of the first round. He unfortunately has drawn a much tougher assignment here in Ovince St. Preux. OSP is one of the more exciting fighters to come over from Strikeforce and is an elite fighter for the first five minutes of any fight. Unfortunately his cardio rivals that of Butterbeans and he's been known to fade late in fights. That being said, I think he should be able to finish Donovan before cardio becomes an issue. OSP has won 10 of 11 with his lone loss coming to Gegard Mousasi in that time and in my eyes is a bit too much for Donovan to handle here. While I like OSP here, I do not however feel comfortable laying 3-1 on a fighter who has shown a propensity to gas in fights after the first round. OSP to win inside the distance is a decent price at -120 and I may put in a small play at that price. However, I will wait until after I see him at the weigh ins before doing so. If he misses weight or doesn't look to be in great shape, it will be an automatic no play. Manny Gamburyan(-120) vs Cole Miller Tough fight to call. Both guys are coming in on off of W's and in Millers case it probably saved his job. Both guys also have impressive wins on their resume as well as puzzling losses. Miller has a ton of potential but his fight IQ leaves much to be desired. With Manny you will surely get 100% but his talent has a ceiling, so its up to you to decide where Miller fits into that equation. Manny has battled with a who's who at featherweight in Aldo, Sherk, Nate Diaz and Tyson Griffin and come up short but also has a nice in over Mike Brown who is also fighting on the card. This fight is a definite no play for me, as I see no value in taking either fighter, but gun to my head I probably take the Manvil. View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	10	August 16, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to There are two state of minds of Anderson Silva in Mixed Martial Arts You mean the serious Silva that was dominated by Chael for 23 minutes in the first fight and the entire first round in the 2nd fight. Weidman is on another level than Chael and Silva found that out the hard way tonight. Weidman was the better fighter tonight, end of story. View Post \| View Thread	GunShard	3	July 07, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Silva just ruined his legacy... in Mixed Martial Arts You guys arent grasping that he cant come forward against a Guy like Weidman because he knows it would make it easy for Weidman to shoot and get the takedown. He has to play his head games and force him to come after him and he did. Weidman was able to avoid anything Silva threw and was never hurt at any point of the fight while Silva was dominated for a majority of the first round before all that garbage started happening. Silva is a counter puncher and wasnt able to connect before Weidman did, he got beat at his own game, end of story!! View Post \| View Thread	clepto	80	July 07, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Silva just ruined his legacy... in Mixed Martial Arts Quote Originally Posted by vincent: Rematch = I will try and keep this as polite as possible. But what the rematch will make, pales in comparison to what Silva/Jones would of made so enough of this garbage. And as far as the fix stuff, just stop.....you guys sound ridiculous. Silva already has enough money to live 100 lifetimes in Brazil and the guy has been compared to Pele there, so money means nothing to him at this point and if he won this fight he would have made 10x that in the Jones fight compared to whatever you think it is he made by agreeing to fix it. You guys all act like youve never seen an Anderson Silva fight before, this is what he does, and we are marvel at how great he is because he is able to do this and still win every fight he's fought in the UFC. The guy is a counter puncher, and that is the tactic he takes to get guys to come forward, its worked every other time and because he finally got caught doing it, it was fixed? Cmon man, you just sound ridiculous with this bs. He took Weidman for granted and paid for it, end of story. View Post \| View Thread	clepto	80	July 07, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to UFC 162 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Congrats on the comeback, we both hit big with Weidman. I had $300 on him and put a parlay With two fights I was pretty sure about with Silva inside the distance at -112 just to hedge, regret it now but it's Silva so had too,haha. Leben cost me a huuuuge parlay!!:( 186494780-1 7/6/13 6:24pm $40.00 $1670.50 $0.00 Loss 5 Team Parlay Loss 7/6/13 9:30pm UFC Fighting 1502 Chris Leben +135* vs Andrew Craig Win 7/6/13 9:00pm UFC Fighting 1602 Norman Parke -135* vs Kazuki Tokudome Win 7/6/13 8:30pm UFC Fighting 1702 Gabriel Gonzaga -160* vs Dave Herman Win 7/6/13 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1801 Rafaello Oliveira/Edson Barboza Under 1½ +115* Win 7/6/13 10:00pm Props Fighting 1409 Swanson wins inside distance +200* vs Not Swanson inside distance 186494482-1 7/6/13 6:21pm $80.00 $520.20 $600.20 Win 3 Team Parlay Win 7/6/13 11:00pm UFC Fighting 1202 Tim Kennedy -150* vs Roger Gracie Win 7/6/13 10:30pm UFC Fighting 1302 Mark Munoz +110* vs Tim Boetsch Win 7/6/13 11:30pm Props Fighting 1111 Edgar wins by 3 round decision +115* vs Not Edgar by 3 round decision 186494014-1 7/6/13 6:16pm $100.00 $240.10 $0.00 Loss 3 Team Parlay Win 7/6/13 10:00pm UFC Fighting 1402 Cub Swanson -185* vs Dennis Siver Win 7/6/13 8:00pm UFC Fighting 1802 Edson Barboza -600* vs Rafaello Oliveira Loss 7/6/13 11:59pm Props Fighting 1009 Silva wins inside distance -112* vs Not Silva inside distance View Post \| View Thread	MR219	30	July 07, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to UFC 162 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Quote Originally Posted by MR219: That has been his downfall his entire career, even within the victories over Pearson and Porier. Hopefully, Siver cashes! You say I'm giving him too much credit and I don't think you're giving him nearly enough. I guess one of us will be forced to change our stance on him very soon. He definitely did not abandon the game plan against Poirer and that's what resulted in the W. He was picking him apart on the feet, Poirer had a nice 2nd because of a takedown but Cub did what he had too to win the 3rd. I took Poirer in that fight because I felt the same way about Cub that you do now but I think you too will have a different opinion after this fight as after watching him against Poirer I think he is without a doubt top 5 in the division, while Siver will never be top 5 no matter how many times he drops. Siver has better leg kicks but its not even remotely close when it comes to boxing and that will be the difference. Good luck with the rest of your card though, lets go Weidman!! View Post \| View Thread	MR219	30	July 06, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to UFC 162 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Quote Originally Posted by sawman: I think siver has a good chance and that the odds should be tighter. His stand up is perhaps better If this fight stays standing, Cub will dominate. Only way for Siver to win is to take Cub down, but his TDD has greatly improved and Im confident he'll be able to keep it standing. View Post \| View Thread	MR219	30	July 05, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to UFC 162 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Love seeing you on Weidman, I took on all the guys at MMA torch when they had a Roundtable regarding this fight. But don't understand the Siver play at all. My thoughts and plays are generally in line with yours(except in the case of Smith/Whittaker) ;) and while Siver has looked good since dropping to 45, Swanson is a monster jump in class compared to the guys he has faced since dropping, not to mention Siver was unable to finish either Pham or Nunes. Siver is always gonna be that mid level guy that beats everyone else except the upper echelon of the division. Swanson has reinvented himself and become a monster since the Lamas fight and I honestly think Siver is a step down in class from what Cub has been facing of late. Cubs only losses are to the top 3 in the division and I don't see Siver anywhere near those guys level and I've also seen Cub evolve since those fights. I very rarely lay above -200 on a straight play but am leaning towards doing so here. IMO, Cub is in another class than Siver and I think he knocks him out in the 2nd round. https://www.mmatorch.com/artman2/publish/Guest_Editorials_20/article_16821.shtml View Post \| View Thread	MR219	30	July 05, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to UFC 160 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Surprised to see you and Sharp both on Smith. I think -200 is way too big a number for him to lay against a fighter like Whittaker. I think Whittaker is just as good if not better than Ricci who was fighting above his weight class and Ricci was a 2.5 to 1 fav. I took Smith in that fight for pure value and hoped for the lay n pray. Smith's striking is probably the worst in the UFC and he isnt exactly aggressive once he does get takedowns. Laying 2-1 in hopes of a lay n pray seems crazy to me and I think Whittaker will catch Smith and knock him out. But Smith could just as easily win 30-27, anyhow, good luck with your card. View Post \| View Thread	MR219	27	May 25, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Thoughts on Souza/Camozzi total??? in Mixed Martial Arts Now I think Jacare is evolving at a scary pace, his striking is improving daily and his BJJ is the best in the division but I think there is a lot of value in the over 1.5 rounds in this fight. As of right now the over is -110 and was looking to hear some opinions. Jacare has looked like a monster in his last two vs Herman and Brunson but before that he wen't well over 1.5 rounds in his previous five. Now, I have never been a big Camozzi fan, as he just seems so slow for 185, but he has proven me wrong a few times during his four fight win streak. The dude has never been knocked out and obviously it ultimately comes down to whether or not he can keep Jacare from submitting him for 7 1/2 minutes. He has gone over 1.5 rounds in 10 of his last 11 fights and 16 of 18. Throw in the possibility of the old Octagon jitters and I think we may get a very slow paced first round. Ultimately, I see a lot of value in the over here but wanted to hear a few different perspectives before I lock it in, thanks. Also like the under 2.5(+110) in Alcantara/Santos, so would love some thoughts there as well. View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	3	May 17, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Bellator 91 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Hey Mr wondering how you see value in Rickels at -310?? If it wasn't for a sloppy last 30 seconds of the first and second round in the first fight, Fischer easily could have won that fight. Not to mention he was on top almost all of round 3 although I think Rickels clearly outworked him from the bottom in that round. I think Rickels wins tonight 29-28 but I think this line should be closer to -200 and I'm pondering playing Fischer from just a pure value stand point. Fischer's wrestling advantage was very clear in the first fight and while Rickels is clearly the better striker and sets a torrid pace, laying over -300 seems crazy to me. View Post \| View Thread	MR219	14	February 28, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic UFC 157 Recap......Winners and Losers in Mixed Martial Arts Dana White took a ton of grief for having Rousey as the Main Event and Hendo/Machida as the Co-Main and the decision to do so could not have turned out better. If people filed out of the Honda Center in Anaheim after watching Hendo/Machida they would of left with a bad taste in their mouth and remembering exactly why it was they stopped watching boxing in the first place. You could have replaced the Octagon cage with a boxing ring and thrown some boxing gloves on Hendo and Machida and the result would of been the exact same. Machida is the MMA version of Floyd Mayweather(minus the personality and monster paydays) as he is simply just faster than all his opponents and truly turns counter punching into an art. Problem is that style if he isn't landing an insane front kick leads to boring decision wins. Just when you thought Ronda couldn't receive any more hype, she turns in an amazing performance and sends the fans home saying WOW! The only thing that could of made this card more beneficial for the UFC is if it was on FOX. Instead of 400k watching it could have been 5-8 million and the UFC would of without a doubt left the event with a ton of new fans as well as a new demographic of fans with women everywhere tuning in. Instead, they are left hoping that word of mouth spreads and the next time Ronda headlines that their will be a significant bump in buys. I'm guessing Dana was worried about Ronda being the Main Event on Fox and submitting Carmouche in 20 seconds leaving everyone wondering why they would dish out $55 in the future for 20 seconds of action. Unfortunately he will only be left with what ifs as it may be years before Ronda is ever tested like that again. The biggest winners on the card were Faber, Lawler and Kenny Robertson. Kenny Robertson was almost assured of getting cut win or lose but with his SOTN that was truly amazing to watch, he may have bought himself another fight in UFC and if not at least he gets a nice 50k parting gift. Lawler after getting grinded against the fence for most of the first was able to in typical Lawler fashion land that big blow and in what to most seemed to be a quick stoppage, he made a statement in his return to the UFC. I think his next fight should be against Court Mcgee, as their styles would make for an amazing battle. Court always pushes the pace and has a granite chin and I would love to see Lawler land a clean shot on Court and test that chin. Let's do it Joe Silva. Perhaps the biggest winner on the card was Faber as he was able to put his name back in the mix for a title shot by winning and doing so in impressive fashion. It really comes down to exactly when Cruz will be back as a Faber/Barao match up again so soon doesn't make any sense. I think a Faber/McDonald fight is really the only fight to make in that division right now and one I would love to see as a Co-Main on any card. Bottom line is Barao is gonna wait for Cruz and he has earned the right to wait as long as it takes for him to get healthy after dominating everyone else in the top five of that division. My guess is Faber/McDonald happens and the winner gets the winner of Cruz/Barao. I guess you would also have to count Machida as a winner as well regardless of how boring it was since Dana has announced he will now fight Jones for the title. I'm not sure who really wants to see Jones/Machida again but it looks like that's what we're gonna get. I'd be much more intrigued to see Gustafsson or Cormier against Jones but it looks like those match ups will have to wait. To be honest if a Jon Jones/Anderson Silva fight was ever gonna happen, late this summer would be as good a time as any. With nobody dying to see Machida/Jones again and with Anderson not too interested in fighting Weidman, the timing for this fight will never be better than this summer. Jones should exit the Sonnen fight without any serious damage so an August or September match up honestly makes a ton of sense here, one can dream right. The big losers are Dan Henderson, Koscheck and anyone losing on the under card. With impending cuts, all the losers on the under card outside of maybe Grice and Johnson are almost assured to receive their pink slip sometime this week. Grice did exactly what Dana asked and fought his A$$ off so I find it hard to believe White would cut anyone after giving that kind of effort. Lavar Johnson I think gets one more fight and I'm hoping Struve beats Hunt next week so we can see a Hunt/Johnson match up that will sure to be a crown pleaser. Koscheck may be on his way out of the UFC after back to back losses and the fact that he is one of the highest paid athletes on the roster isn't gonna help his case. My gut is that Dana will give him one more fight as he has shown a soft spot in the past for anyone on the first season of TUF(e.g. Chris Leben) and a match up with Ty Woodley or Jake Shields seems to make sense although Shields/Kos is sure to be a snoozefest. Henderson's biggest problem now is father time After this latest loss he is probably two fights away from a title shot and at 42 the chances of him ever fighting for a title again are slim to none. I would love to see Henderson/Glover, but with Glover already booked against Bader, I'm hoping that if Cormier beats Mir, he'll drop and face Hendo. It's a win win for everyone because Cormier will become a household name if he beats Hendo and winning that fight would set up Jones/Cormier perfectly. 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replied to UFC 157 in Mixed Martial Arts Great night Ctm, Lawler came through big for us!! Yuri not finishing that rear naked in the 1st cost me a huge night. Congrats on killin it, well done!! View Post \| View Thread	ctm1985	16	February 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to UFC 157 Plays in Mixed Martial Arts Wow another frustrating card, felt like I capped the sh*t out of that card and ended up only a unit thanks to Villefort's inability to finish the rear naked choke and then for some reason stood with a guy who was out striking him the whole time. Terrible coaching and game plan, I just wish Joe Rogan was my bookie cuz he was ready to cash my Villafort ticket and pronounced the fight over as as soon as he sunk in that rear naked. Oh well, glad we only have to wait a week for the next card!! View Post \| View Thread	Gimmmethatjuice	3	February 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread

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