keven vanlith

Well i am not playing the game but just a few weeks ago Pit. handled Cinny pretty easy in Cinny although my 1st thoughts were still Cin. i can not trust them vs Pit. even though Pit. has not played well since then.

Good game to watch + maybe play a 4th Q. in game bet after seeing how its all playing out but GL with PIT.

Vikes have hugely overachieved this year + DET was pretty much destined to get the #1 seed early after SF woes so i see things playing out as expected when the reg. season ends sunday night.

The Lions on Off. at home in the dome are like an arena team Off......Opp. Def. are lucky to get 2-3 stops a game vs the Lions Off. + 1 of those is a Dan Campbell dumb 4th down dec. although he gets more then his share correct also.

LIONS 41

MIN 30 

Oh ya they are done like dinner if Goff gets hurt although that can be said of every playoff team having #1 go down. Also going on the Road in Jan. to win 3 games is a very heavy lift also. Sunday night is monumental for both teams. No scenario in the NFL motivates players + coaches alike then a Bye + the implications surrounding that. For both teams it will be no prisoners taken trying to achieve that gem of a situation

Franchise Tag around 40 mil. will likely be the result as they kick the can to 2026 but as i stated earlier the season is not over yet which will affect the dec. at least somewhat as how Sam finishes.

Yes fair Q. well DET. will most likely lose. A Def. will have to have a night something like the texans D. had ag. Goff with 5 int. (DET. won anyway) or slow down their O. like BUF did a few weeks ago early in the game while scoring a bunch of points themselves then hang on as DET. scores a Blizzard of points late only to fall short. I think the best way to slow down their scoring is red zone D. Unfort. the teams that usually have great Off. red zone success are teams who run the ball well + don't have to throw much in that constricted area + the Lions are perfect for that type of play along with it being 4 down territory mostly which yes can at times can bite Campbell in the rear. Make the Lions go 2-5 something like that + only allow them 1 longer TD so red zone is not involved. Hey this team is not unbeatable + if their Off. has an off day they likely will get beat but the problem with that is even if they have an off day for part of the game they can still storm back like an arena league team + still put up 40 om pts. like they did vs Buf. Slow ball control like a bunch of 6 7 8 min. drives vs that lion D. to keep their Off. off the field along with good red zone Def. + a few breaks like tipped balls, fumble recoveries ect. + some bad Campbell 4th down dec. + Def. stops at that critical moment are a good recipe to beat Det. but easier said then done.

C70 with all due respect yes Dallas was a very good O. in 23 but not to the caliber of the Lions esp. at RB. This O is nearly unstoppable as they rarely punt. Yes Dallas was good on O. but not nearly this good like the generationally good the Lions are Esp. as they know they have to be like that considering their D. shortcomings. One almost gets the feeling when they score in the high 30's or into the 40's they are capable of a whole lot more which is insane as the only other O. or 2 i can think of that was like that was the Rams for a few years 99+ + Peyton Mannings Colts in the Mid 2000's.

Once RB Monty comes back, no matter what happens on D. For them, the Lions O. are among a very select group in NFL history. They might just be at the top of that group if they need to score 50 points to win a game. They can, the way they are coached and the huge plays they get from their RBs also.

No D. can prevent them from scoring 30 points esp. at Home when they push the petal so any team looking to beat the lions in Det. (which i believe they will be LIONS 41-VIKES 30 on sunday) throughout the playoffs better have 38 points min. on their point target scale + that most likely might or might only get them a cover no less.

Hey guys this season is not over yet meaning if Sam goes out on Sunday night vs a weak Lion D. loses while throwing 2 or 3 int. as we all know he is capable of and then loses in the WC round while not playing well either this debate is a non starter.

I know he is playing top notch right now + most of the season also has been excellent but that old sports saying U are only as good as your last game means double for Sam.

Remember in mid season when he had a rough patch there was little talk of keeping him for next year so this is a hair trigger subject that can turn on a dime meaning lets revisit this in a few weeks for a much more accurate assessment.

If Rodgers starts + gets his 500th TD pass it will be the only time in Sports history that a sig. # of Boos will reign down at the HOME venue for a massive Ind. achievement.

It is a tricky game to bet because the Jets look like they are starting Rodgers but might go to Tyrod at some point + he may ignite the offence.

Tyrod is really by far the best choice to start but this dysfunctional org. is playing it out according to plan meaning bad.

THIS X 10000

All that insanity in OT should never have happened if not for that semi hail mary to Mims at the end of regulation. Just look at the game stats and 1st downs also. The correct team covered here roundabout as it was.

Don't worry though off his rookie season he will still get 60+ million a year after next year in this off the charts insane not wanting to hurt the QB 's feelings QB paying ATM NFL machine.

Careful the last thread with this type of topic got moved to the pen. box with over 60 responses no less before it was moved. It appears covers is going the way of the cen. crazy MSM.

I think normally that is exactly what they would have done esp. in the dome in LV but considering the day Carlson was having they got greedy + wanted to get a little closer with 15 seconds left which they could have even with a 10 or 15 yard over the middle pass to Bowers as long as it was quick then the spike or 5 or 10 yards out of bounds. Everything other then a slow dev. play + a completion in bounds was avail. but Carlson's perf. today created all that.

No....everyone was stationary when the ball was snapped but 2 men were in motion which was the pen. The guard prematurely singaled to the center to snap it as nobody was ready...the QB or the 2 men moving....100% the guards fault for tapping the center in that din of noise.

Almost half the Circa survivors had KC so they are breathing a huge sigh of relief, although there was no gaur. that Carlson was making a 48 YD FG, considering the day he was having.

[Quote: Originally Posted by M-M]The Center was the one that got the call

Actually it was the guard as he signaled to the center with that tap to snap the ball as the center was looking up the whole time. THE GUARD screwed that up 100%.

+ if you get about 7 yards on the 3rd down play you semi-rush your FG unit out as there still would be about 25 seconds left with the clock running after the 3rd down play ends.

Wow the multitudes of twists and turns in this game was 1 for the ages but they may have saved the best for last with that Time Out in their pocket + needing about 7 yards for a FG att. + well i cannot speak how insane of clock mang. that was. Every bad clock mang. blunder from here on in the NFL will be measured to this insanity.

Even if Wash made like 2-5 yards on that play they are still on about the 20 yard line or so with around a 45% chance to eventually score a TD anyway so just utter stupidity. It is not like it was 4th + 2 from the 6 or 7 yard line that if they make it they score 80-90% of the time after that or even on the 4th down play itself. Wash still had so much work to still do + it demoralized the D. who were already starting to get gashed + tired at that point. Amazing how stupid Head coaches are in the most critical situations no less.