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AMD- Always appreciate ur input man. You are quality on all levels over several sports IMO. Can u copy and paste ur thoughts. I've seen u on Ohio but havent seen any reasoning.

Kansas....I know you are quality. I have followed ur thread for years but I would appreciate a little insight. No one on this site is right more than 65% of the time.....

I see most quality cappers on BG tonight, and I get it. Common opponents they have more convincing wins and their D is surprisingly good from a numbers perspective. The one thing I see though is their poor performances against mobile QB's. Their 3 losses come all away @Florida, @Toledo, and @VT. Driskel, Owens and Thomas are all Qb's that run the ball well. I dont see any other games vs teams that fit this dynamic. I know Ohio's Tettleton is a solid runner. Is this their kryponite?!?!? 

Actually the clemson o/u is 30.5 and that would be a play....

You forgot to point out the FOS ratio and that is 100%. That is the Full Of Shit ratio. I am actually on the Raiders aswell, but even a broken clock is right twice a day. You come on here quoting NASA mathmatical equations and other bs no one understands to make yourself sound intelligent and like you know what ur doing. 

betislands sounds too good to be true. how are theyre lines?

have used sportsbook for years and had different locals, but lately it takes over a month for SB to process withdrawals. Can someone please advise about another online book with solid lines and speedy withdrawals. Thanks in advance.

Who's coming with me? Some of you are getting some great odds. All I'm seeing is +350 since yesterday. 

Orange-

Love it Bro! Just sent u a message in last nights thread asking your take

 Good call last night bro. ....I'll give credit where credit is due, but that team last night did not resemble Michigan in any game I watched this season, which was all of them. The way they played 1h, its unbelievable they were up at halftime. Without that amazing play by the linebacker for that pick I think michigan loses that game handily, but once again Beamer finds a way to fuck the hokies. Their playcalling at the end of regulation cost them that game. 

The thing that has caught my eye is that everyone is on the under tonight. On paper, I get it. But the stats are misleading. Michigan very much so has a "bend but don't break" defense. They give up a lot of yardage comparitive to their points allowed. The thing is, they've had an amazing ability to create turnovers on their own half of the field and really haven't faced a highly efficient redzone offense. The best they faced was prolly Nebraska. I have also been impressed at how Michigan has been able to take what an opposing defense expects and use it against them this year. Everyone knows to watch out to D Rob but in games where teams have overemphasized not letting Robinson beat them Toussaint has gone off with games aproaching 200 yrds. Michigan has 3 quality backs, but he has earned #1 status by his play throughout this season. Their bread ånd butter is the lead option draw and an opposing D better be able to stop the RB up the middle as well as protect the outside from Robinson.....a lot easier said than done. I hear what ur saying about Robinson getting knocked around (as he has in most games), however, Gardner is a much better passer out of the 2 of them and he has seen action in most games this season. Gardner's a freshman and is still young and inexperienced, but when he is in a game he brings a whole different style of offense most teams have not prepared for. I do see VT getting their points tonight too as they have a multi-dimensional offense that can beat u several ways. One other point people don't realize is that Michigan played 8 home games this year having 2 of their biggest 3 games in Ann Arbor. (Nebraska and Ohio State) Only big road game was a loss @ Mich ST.

I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY and I have watched every game they played this year. First off, this Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. They did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is very respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved the over 27 prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless to all 

The thing that has caught my eye is that everyone is on the under tonight. On paper, I get it. But the stats are misleading. Michigan very much so has a "bend but don't break" defense. They give up a lot of yardage comparitive to their points allowed. The thing is, they've had an amazing ability to create turnovers on their own half of the field and really haven't faced a highly efficient redzone offense. The best they faced was prolly Nebraska. I have also been impressed at how Michigan has been able to take what an opposing defense expects and use it against them this year. Everyone knows to watch out to D Rob but in games where teams have overemphasized not letting Robinson beat them Toussaint has gone off with games aproaching 200 yrds. Michigan has 3 quality backs, but he has earned #1 status by his play throughout this season. Their bread ånd butter is the lead option draw and an opposing D better be able to stop the RB up the middle as well as protect the outside from Robinson.....a lot easier said than done. I hear what ur saying about Robinson getting knocked around (as he has in most games), however, Gardner is a much better passer out of the 2 of them and he has seen action in most games this season. Gardner's a freshman and is still young and inexperienced, but when he is in a game he brings a whole different style of offense most teams have not prepared for. I do see VT getting their points tonight too as they have a multi-dimensional offense that can beat u several ways. One other point people don't realize is that Michigan played 8 home games this year having 2 of their biggest 3 games in Ann Arbor. (Nebraska and Ohio State) Only big road game was a loss @ Mich ST.

Much respect for u Train, I read ur threads in all sports daily but I am not in agreement with u on this one man. I am a huge Michigan fan, have been since I was a kid even though im from NY but I strongly disagree with ur play here. First off, someone in this thread called Michigan's offense "one dimensional", Mr Rainman and your 3 posts, you obviously dont know ur ass from a hole in the ground. This Michigan team has only fallen under 28 pts twice this year, against Michigan St (best D in Big 10 by far) @ Lansing they put up 14 and had 16 in a huge letdown game @ Iowa where they failed to find points twice inside the 10 yrd line in the 4th Q. Correcting your innacuracy, they never played Indiana this year, but did put up 40 on Ohio St, 45 on Nebraska and 31 on Illinois @ Illinois (as bad as they can play, Illinois's D is respectable). I will agree that VTech will be one of the best D's they will see this season but the thing I love about hoke as a 1st yr coach is that he has prepared them for the big games. Michigan is known to be a school that puts up letdown performances in bowl games. We always did under LLoyd Carr, but hoke has this team believing and that is mostly evident on the defensive side of the ball. Denard Robinson will be the fastest guy on the field tonight and all he needs is a step to break one and we saw what the speed of Clemson did to VTech....Don't be surprised if Michigan pulls off a couple trick plays tonight that go for TD's aswell. I loved this prop at 27 but still see Michigan getting at least 4 TD's tonight. As always, best of luck regardless Train but we are on opposite sides tonight.