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A great post and I could not agree more. Pats are the solid value play here because of the Jax game and the the Eagles/Minny game. But I like them much more than the line value. Pats win by double digits and it might be over by HT. I like the over too for a small play but Pats will crush the Eagles in this spot. Their gameplan is to offensively destroy the Eagles early and often and not rely on Brady to work his magic with 2 minutes left. You heard it here. |
andarmac99 | 26 |
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Quote Originally Posted by andarmac99:
is on New England -4. Philly was +3 at home to the Vikes and Falcons. Makes them +6 on a neutral vs those teams. You telling me the Pats would be dogs to the Falcons and Vikes in this game? No chance. This line is simply a product of the Pats playing bad last game and Philly covering by 5 TDs. That's it. Classic buy low, sell high and how often do you get to do that with the Pats? Nick Foles has had a career's worth of mediocre play and now he's a great QB after one game? No doubt he played well vs MIN but the guy was 2-15 on deep throws coming into the game and had a 23.3 rating under pressure. Last game he was 4-6 on deep throws (at least a couple when Rhodes went out of the game) and had insane 152 rating when under pressure. With two weeks off, two weeks for Belichick to prepare, I'm betting Foles regresses and regresses hard. But for Philly he can't afford to regress. We can dissect this game all we want but at the end of the day Foles has to outplay Brady. The Pats are an absurd 29-4 since Brady came back from suspension last year. In the 4 losses the Pats gave up 31,42, 33, and 27 and the opposing QBs had these lines: 68% completions 348 yards 3 TD 0 INT 124.6 RAT 66% completions 263 yards 3 TD 0 INT 112.1 RAT 76% completions 316 yards 3 TD 1 INT 130.8 RAT 80% completions 368 yards 4 TD 0 INT 148.6 RAT That's the level Foles has to play at to outduel Brady. Mediocre QB off a career game and the greatest coach of all time has two weeks to get him off his spot and make him uncomfortable...the odds Foles plays well again are not good. Sell high. Pats also off a game where they probably should have lost had Jacksonville not crapped the bed. Down double digits, lost the turnover battle, didn't cover. This current Pats group is 7-1 ATS the last two years off an ATS loss. And how often do the Pats play two bad games? Buy low. Lots of talk about how NE always play close Super Bowls. I think they are going to win this one by double digits. GL. |
andarmac99 | 26 |
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I love the 49ers in this game and am betting heavy on the ML and here are some interesting facts to chew on... San Francisco always has a shot and as an organization they are a perfect 5-0 SU in Super Bowls. They are 4-1 ATS in those games and were listed as the favorite each time. Three of the five wins were blowouts as each time they had the far superior offense and could just turn games on their head with big plays. That’s how the 2012-13 49ers are built and they do not want to be known as the ones that gave this franchise their first Super Bowl loss.
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vegasjimmy | 10 |
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Train69, your picture and name are quite "disturbing" and don't jive with your no nonesense write ups. Are these just an attempt at comedy gold? I predict the Niners will handily beat this average AFC team. Disagree completely that it's a wash in the trenches and that's where this game will be won or lost. Or any evidence that CK cannot perform at his highest level here. I can only "sort of" see where you'd cap this game and side with the Ravens but I think it's gonna remind you of the Bills/Cowboys SB. Not to late to flip it... including your picture and name?
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TRAIN69 | 252 |
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BiggDoug, you posted the Ravens -3.5 and that was all I needed to see, typo or not. Niners in an old fashioned Superbowl blowout that is way overdue. CK will go wild and this Niners squad is superior on both sides of the ball, especially in the trenches and we've got the better Haurbaugh by a mile as well. It's not too late to flip the switch but I know you won't. I just hate to see you...
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BiggDoug | 28 |
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I like the Niners regardless of any system and I like the Niners in the trenches on both sides of the ball. If CK has a great game, it's over. And if God has any say in it, Ray Ray won't get his second ring. He's just teasing him. ; ) I just think the Niners can matriculate the ball down the field fellas and they'll do so better than the RayRayRavens. Niners in a good old fashioned Superbowl blowout that we are overdue for. They are simply superior on both sides of the ball by solid margin. Oh yeah, and I like beer.
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vegasjimmy | 33 |
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Hey theclaw your analysis doesn't really make sense to me and just for that I'm DOUBLING my bet on the 49ERS! Please think of me when your Ravens cash is gone and the Ray Lewis fairy tale ends with tears and depression.
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vegasjimmy | 33 |
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Copag07, I'll take Hank Stram's record and sound formula over PS3 but I hear ya. ;)
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vegasjimmy | 33 |
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CC12, you can't ignore 39-4-2 straight up record. Sorry pal. Bet the Ravens, the matchups do not favor you there either. |
vegasjimmy | 33 |
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Europa, I would lay the 3.5 but the hook is killing me and I'm betting large and will simply bet the ML to be safe. Not great capping strategy but I'm in Vegas going off on this weekend. ;) Read this interesting article... https://computerprediction.com/hank-stram-superbowl-system-2011 |
vegasjimmy | 33 |
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Mistake, I meant to say he DID NOT have this formula for ALL Superbowls. Almost all of them.
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vegasjimmy | 33 |
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Hank Stram's famous Superbowl Formula is said to be at 39-4-2 going into this game. He did have it for all SB's. I can't confirm that for sure but I KNOW it's an unbelievable record for picking the straight up winner and Hank Stram is no dummy. I for one will be POUNDING the 49ers money line in Vegas next weekend...
1. Give 10 points if a team has won a Super Bowl in the last three years. NONE
2. Give 8.0 points to any team whose opponent is in their first Super Bowl in franchise history. NONE 3. Give 8.0 points to the team that has allowed the fewer defensive rushes. 49ERS
4. Give 7.0 points to the team with the best straight up win/loss record including playoffs. 49ERS 5. Give 7.0 points to the team with the most offensive rushes. 49ERS 6. Give 5.0 points to the team with the lower defensive rush average per carry. 49ERS 7. Give 4.0 points to the team that has the best net kick-punt touchdown returns. ??? 8. Give 4.0 points to the team the team with the better record against the point spread. 49ERS 9. Give 4.0 points to the team that has the superior net penalty yards. 49ERS 10. Give 3.5 points to the team that has the best yards per pass attempt. 49ERS 11. Give 3.5 points to the team that has given up the fewest points. 49ERS 12. Give 3.5 points to the team that has allowed the fewest rushing touchdowns. ??? 13. Give 3.0 points to the team that has the most sacks. 49ERS 14. Give 2.5 points to the team with the fewest offensive pass attempts. 49ERS 15. Give 2.0 points to the team that had the best net punts (total) on the year. ??? 16. Give 1.5 points to the team with the best average per offensive rush. 49ERS 17. Give 1.0 points to the team with the best completion percentage. 49ERS FINAL TALLY: 50-0 with only 9.5 points I couldn't fill in. WOW. Last time it was that one-sided was Pitt over GB and GB beat this Formula. Look for that NOT to happen again. |
vegasjimmy | 33 |
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Nice write up dawniwags! Steelers dominate this game from start to finish.
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vegasjimmy | 30 |
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Maybe so, but it was on a TEAR for MANY years prior. I haven't crunched the numbers on it yet mainly because Pitt wins most of the first several items on the list and would be the clear winner using this formula. Pitt wins the game by 10+.
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vegasjimmy | 6 |
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The books had the Steelers as 3 point favs at halftime of the Jets game when they were up 24-0. Because they played "not to lose" the game and public perception changed bigtime, they made the Packers the favorite. Not because they should be favored, just because of public perception. There is no value betting a favored Pack team in this game. Steelers giving up a little less than 15ppg and I can get +3? Now THAT is value. Pack will lose this game outright and it might get ugly.
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vegasjimmy | 30 |
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It's all public perception and the books getting money on both sides since the Superbowl is all public money (sharp money is a drop in the bucket on the overall handle). Main reason the Pack is favored is because of the second half the Steelers had against the Jets. They played not to lose and it almost cost them. They won't make that mistake in the SB. This is exactly why the Steelers are the dog. I heard at halftime the books had the Steelers favored by 3 until they watched the second half! If I can get Pitt at +3 without having to pay much for it, I will hammer this game!
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Gold_Rush | 76 |
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Can someone crunch these numbers for me? I'm buried the next few days but would like to see the result. Thanks Vegasrebel for digging this up. Looks like the Steelers win here big at first glance: 1. Give 10 points if a team has won a Super Bowl in the last three years. |
vegasjimmy | 6 |
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By the way, looks like the formula has the Steelers in a landslide just glancing at it. WOW. Take the points and try and get the full field goal and bet it big. A no-brainer.
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vegasjimmy | 30 |
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Vegasrebel, thanks bro, that's exactly what I was looking for. Nothing will take me off the Steelers getting points in this game but I wanted to get a hold of that one. I'll be the covers party at the Palazzo in Vegas on Friday Feb 4th. GL everyone. |
vegasjimmy | 30 |
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Hey guys, can't find that damn SB formula that has predicted an incredible percentage of winners. Can someone find it and crunch the numbers for Packers versus Steelers? By the way, I think they have the wrong favorite here and if I can get the Steelers with a full field goal, I'm ALL OVER IT. John Q. Public will be hammering the Pack.
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vegasjimmy | 30 |
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