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replied to Murray will beat federer in Tennis Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy: if you think that he will be factor going past the quarters for the next 3-4 years, you are nuts, i am a huge fan of fed just like i am of nadal, but you have to realized that fed has just ONE grand slam finals victory out of the last 11 slams. ELEVEN!! in that too at wimbledon 2012 he was fortunate not to run into nadal who became his kryptonite on fed's beloved grass as well And look what happened in the year where it mattered most(he got to number 1, won a GS and a silver at the Olympics). He is clearly in much better shape than 2012(his own words). He has trained a lot and it shows. Bottom line is that Fed is the much better tennis player when it matters and when he has put the offseason work. Murray may be more relaxed after winning a GS but he is no Djokovic....he still loses concentration and does stupid things on court. Plus, his movement is lacking, yes he is fast but not that flexible and mobile. You can compare their games and you would understand that when both in form, Murray loses in 60-70% of all the dimensions. He should not be favored. View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	18	January 25, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Murray will beat federer in Tennis Quote Originally Posted by cowboys173418: btw xbelili you are living in the past if you think federer should be favorite for this match you are living in the future :)) Federer is here to stay for another 3-4 years. He is going to beat Murray on GS at least 3-4 times more. Federer is relaxed and motivated - he is joking constantly about how old he is. I bet he wants to prove a point. 3:1 to fed, I'll do you a favor and tell you that the odds for Murray aren't worth taking. View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	18	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Murray will beat federer in Tennis the odds for murray in 3 should be 25/1...and don't start talking about the olympics...federer wasn't on court in that match. likelyhood of this happening again is slim. View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	18	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to YELA Strong Play: Djokovic to win 3-0 vs Ferrer in Tennis sry mate, Ferrer takes this one in a thriller. View Post \| View Thread	YELAWOLF	14	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Roger Federer vs Andy Murray wtf? in Tennis ....dues? u gotta be kidding me. 2nd slam is almost as difficult as the first one. Especially in Murray's case where he has lost several finals. I mentioned Djoker only to say that it will be difficult. I just don't get how you are all going against Federer at +money. Put aside the fact that he is getting "old"...his game/ability hasn't changed. He will play at a very high level till 35. On GS, he still competes with Djoker (50-50 record in the past 2-3 years). Djoker is still a notch above Murray... View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	38	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Roger Federer vs Andy Murray wtf? in Tennis The slam h2h will not be irrelevant for a long time, sry mate. Federer is interested only in the slams, has been for the past 5-6 years. And Murray's mental block has not gone away, he still needs to prove the US wasn't a fluke. It took Djoker 3 years before next slam. Murray hasn't even played a night season, conditions are different. He's been playing, training on Hisense a lot - considerably different as he, himself suggests in interviews. All of this means that it's very likely that Federer will take the first set. We know where this will likely lead :). Don't be surpised...just saying. View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	38	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Roger Federer vs Andy Murray wtf? in Tennis I took Federer big at +140 at Pinny. It's a 50-50 match, maybe even slight advantage for Federer considering it's 3:0 in Grand Slams (1:0 in AO). Plus, Federer has already faced a couple of decent opponents and played pretty well while Murray has faced only mugs so far. I can see Federer taking the first set easily because of this. View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	38	January 23, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Any chance of Ivanovic winning? in Tennis i have the over 19. I think Ana can make it competitive at least for 1 set. View Post \| View Thread	Thanh386	12	January 20, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Jeremy Chardy vs. Andreas Seppi in Tennis leaning towards chardy as well.Seppi does not have enough variety to take advantage of Chardy's weak backhand. Chardy should be able to take it with his serve and forehand. View Post \| View Thread	Everest17	28	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to David Ferrer vs Nishikori in Tennis i doubt Nishikori can keep it consistent to win 3 sets. I think he can take a set or two but nothing more. Nishikori to take a set is the bet in my opinion. I prefer it to the over because when Nishikori plays sets tend to be fast and without too many games. View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	12	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to What kinda game is the book playing today ? Tipsy Dog? To Almagro? in Tennis :) sarcasm or goofy logic :) I think the odds are set right. Almagro seems to be playing well. I saw a bit of the 1st round match vs johnson and it was relatively high quality tennis. Tipsy comes from 2 tough 5-setters where he wasn't very consistent throughout(lots of ups and downs). So, for me it's 60-40 in almagro's favor. Both are kind of clownish, so I'll stay away. GL to you though! View Post \| View Thread	Gavinnick	51	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Australian Open Day 7 pick in Tennis im on it too. I'm taking the safe option though, 19.5. GL! I think Ivanovic makes it competitive(either 2 close sets or 3 sets). She loves playing in Australia. View Post \| View Thread	groovinmahoovin	4	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Raonic I think he wins in Tennis fed delivers pretty much always. especially against clowns that like to talk... View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	9	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Day 7 thoughts?? in Tennis i live the over 19.5 in the ivanovic-radwanska match. Ivanovic has been playing well, seems like she's had a good off-season preparation. View Post \| View Thread	plike112	6	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Ferrer - Tipsy in Tennis 3:0...good thing I did not. Ferrer seems very lackluster. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	2	November 10, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to David Ferrer vs. Janko Tipsarevic in Tennis Ferrer can't qualify. Delpo is playing Djoker tomorrow. Still I think he takes it in 2. View Post \| View Thread	Everest17	5	November 10, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Ferrer - Tipsy in Tennis Even though Ferrer has no chance of qualification, I still think he takes this one in 2 sets. He is the most determined player, striving for points and constant improvement no matter what(one of the reasons why he plays so many tourneys - he just loves the competition). I think Janko will play better than in his 2 previous matches but still Ferrer should have the edge (6:4 6:3 or 7:5 6:3 seems probable) What do you guys think? View Post \| View Thread	zippar	2	November 10, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Challenger Tennis Betting in Tennis $4500 for challengers in one slip? Really? Please confirm, I have a 5dimes and sbo account and the limits per slip there are $50-100. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	8	October 31, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Challenger Tennis Betting in Tennis it's difficult to believe that you could make a killing out of it. The limits are just too low(there isn't a bookie that offers $100+ consistently on moneylines). Yes, there is value but it's because very few people have information. Not worth it as it requires lots of hours of watching and analysis to make a few hundred, maybe a gran in 3-4 weeks. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	8	October 31, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Challenger Tennis Betting in Tennis thanks for the advice. shady business + the fact that the limits are quite low does not make it worthwhile. I will stay away. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	8	October 30, 2012 View Post \| View Thread

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replied to Murray will beat federer in Tennis Quote Originally Posted by gridironguy: if you think that he will be factor going past the quarters for the next 3-4 years, you are nuts, i am a huge fan of fed just like i am of nadal, but you have to realized that fed has just ONE grand slam finals victory out of the last 11 slams. ELEVEN!! in that too at wimbledon 2012 he was fortunate not to run into nadal who became his kryptonite on fed's beloved grass as well And look what happened in the year where it mattered most(he got to number 1, won a GS and a silver at the Olympics). He is clearly in much better shape than 2012(his own words). He has trained a lot and it shows. Bottom line is that Fed is the much better tennis player when it matters and when he has put the offseason work. Murray may be more relaxed after winning a GS but he is no Djokovic....he still loses concentration and does stupid things on court. Plus, his movement is lacking, yes he is fast but not that flexible and mobile. You can compare their games and you would understand that when both in form, Murray loses in 60-70% of all the dimensions. He should not be favored. View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	18	January 25, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Murray will beat federer in Tennis Quote Originally Posted by cowboys173418: btw xbelili you are living in the past if you think federer should be favorite for this match you are living in the future :)) Federer is here to stay for another 3-4 years. He is going to beat Murray on GS at least 3-4 times more. Federer is relaxed and motivated - he is joking constantly about how old he is. I bet he wants to prove a point. 3:1 to fed, I'll do you a favor and tell you that the odds for Murray aren't worth taking. View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	18	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Murray will beat federer in Tennis the odds for murray in 3 should be 25/1...and don't start talking about the olympics...federer wasn't on court in that match. likelyhood of this happening again is slim. View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	18	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to YELA Strong Play: Djokovic to win 3-0 vs Ferrer in Tennis sry mate, Ferrer takes this one in a thriller. View Post \| View Thread	YELAWOLF	14	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Roger Federer vs Andy Murray wtf? in Tennis ....dues? u gotta be kidding me. 2nd slam is almost as difficult as the first one. Especially in Murray's case where he has lost several finals. I mentioned Djoker only to say that it will be difficult. I just don't get how you are all going against Federer at +money. Put aside the fact that he is getting "old"...his game/ability hasn't changed. He will play at a very high level till 35. On GS, he still competes with Djoker (50-50 record in the past 2-3 years). Djoker is still a notch above Murray... View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	38	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Roger Federer vs Andy Murray wtf? in Tennis The slam h2h will not be irrelevant for a long time, sry mate. Federer is interested only in the slams, has been for the past 5-6 years. And Murray's mental block has not gone away, he still needs to prove the US wasn't a fluke. It took Djoker 3 years before next slam. Murray hasn't even played a night season, conditions are different. He's been playing, training on Hisense a lot - considerably different as he, himself suggests in interviews. All of this means that it's very likely that Federer will take the first set. We know where this will likely lead :). Don't be surpised...just saying. View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	38	January 24, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Roger Federer vs Andy Murray wtf? in Tennis I took Federer big at +140 at Pinny. It's a 50-50 match, maybe even slight advantage for Federer considering it's 3:0 in Grand Slams (1:0 in AO). Plus, Federer has already faced a couple of decent opponents and played pretty well while Murray has faced only mugs so far. I can see Federer taking the first set easily because of this. View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	38	January 23, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Any chance of Ivanovic winning? in Tennis i have the over 19. I think Ana can make it competitive at least for 1 set. View Post \| View Thread	Thanh386	12	January 20, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Jeremy Chardy vs. Andreas Seppi in Tennis leaning towards chardy as well.Seppi does not have enough variety to take advantage of Chardy's weak backhand. Chardy should be able to take it with his serve and forehand. View Post \| View Thread	Everest17	28	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to David Ferrer vs Nishikori in Tennis i doubt Nishikori can keep it consistent to win 3 sets. I think he can take a set or two but nothing more. Nishikori to take a set is the bet in my opinion. I prefer it to the over because when Nishikori plays sets tend to be fast and without too many games. View Post \| View Thread	xibeleli	12	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to What kinda game is the book playing today ? Tipsy Dog? To Almagro? in Tennis :) sarcasm or goofy logic :) I think the odds are set right. Almagro seems to be playing well. I saw a bit of the 1st round match vs johnson and it was relatively high quality tennis. Tipsy comes from 2 tough 5-setters where he wasn't very consistent throughout(lots of ups and downs). So, for me it's 60-40 in almagro's favor. Both are kind of clownish, so I'll stay away. GL to you though! View Post \| View Thread	Gavinnick	51	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Australian Open Day 7 pick in Tennis im on it too. I'm taking the safe option though, 19.5. GL! I think Ivanovic makes it competitive(either 2 close sets or 3 sets). She loves playing in Australia. View Post \| View Thread	groovinmahoovin	4	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Raonic I think he wins in Tennis fed delivers pretty much always. especially against clowns that like to talk... View Post \| View Thread	cowboys173418	9	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Day 7 thoughts?? in Tennis i live the over 19.5 in the ivanovic-radwanska match. Ivanovic has been playing well, seems like she's had a good off-season preparation. View Post \| View Thread	plike112	6	January 19, 2013 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Ferrer - Tipsy in Tennis 3:0...good thing I did not. Ferrer seems very lackluster. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	2	November 10, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to David Ferrer vs. Janko Tipsarevic in Tennis Ferrer can't qualify. Delpo is playing Djoker tomorrow. Still I think he takes it in 2. View Post \| View Thread	Everest17	5	November 10, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
created a topic Ferrer - Tipsy in Tennis Even though Ferrer has no chance of qualification, I still think he takes this one in 2 sets. He is the most determined player, striving for points and constant improvement no matter what(one of the reasons why he plays so many tourneys - he just loves the competition). I think Janko will play better than in his 2 previous matches but still Ferrer should have the edge (6:4 6:3 or 7:5 6:3 seems probable) What do you guys think? View Post \| View Thread	zippar	2	November 10, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Challenger Tennis Betting in Tennis $4500 for challengers in one slip? Really? Please confirm, I have a 5dimes and sbo account and the limits per slip there are $50-100. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	8	October 31, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Challenger Tennis Betting in Tennis it's difficult to believe that you could make a killing out of it. The limits are just too low(there isn't a bookie that offers $100+ consistently on moneylines). Yes, there is value but it's because very few people have information. Not worth it as it requires lots of hours of watching and analysis to make a few hundred, maybe a gran in 3-4 weeks. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	8	October 31, 2012 View Post \| View Thread
replied to Challenger Tennis Betting in Tennis thanks for the advice. shady business + the fact that the limits are quite low does not make it worthwhile. I will stay away. View Post \| View Thread	zippar	8	October 30, 2012 View Post \| View Thread

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