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Quote Originally Posted by LuckyLuke:

Van,  great find and good call on that foul.  It is obvious that the hero of opening game was the ref.  There is also something new that i found today.  Croatian federation is in disbelief that the ref DID NOT SPEAK ENGLISH.  He was directing/giving commands to the players in Japanese.  This is a complete joke.  
Croatian coach said it the best "if this continues all teams might as well go home now and the trophy can be given to Brazil without playing"

btw how come you didn't go to Brazil.  Figured you will be there since you skipped Euro as well.

Hey Luke - good to see you around...

Yeah - heard that too about the ref.  Im trying my best not to think about the game yesterday and just move on - but that was a tough way to start - not only for Croatia - but for the tournament as a whole.

Brazil just didn't work out.  Life gets in the way.  Family gets older, kids have sporting events and dancing recitals etc...  While I would love to be there - just in a time in my life where it is tough. 

GL on the rest of the tourney.

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Posted: #277
Van... your avi just kills me! I just crack up and really want to believe you are a young white hood rat with chucks and swords and hundo's... who knows how to cap! Lol
 
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Posted: #278
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Group G:

 

The USA are my team.  In fact, they are the only team I am a “fan” of in any sport.  I follow them closely – support them – and am hopeful for the day we are competitive on an international level.  This team is just not there yet.  In fact, this team is a major step backwards from our previous decade or so of teams.  The talent level is just not there – besides the goalkeepers – we have basically nobody who plays in Europe at a competitive level who can be considered anything more than a role player.  Cameron, Diskerud, Jones?  Please.  And even our stars – Bradley, Dempsey – were merely average overseas.

 

The WC draw was on Dec 6.  That was when we found out we have Germany, Portugal, and Ghana in the US group.  Most head coaches are hired for 1 WC cycle at a time – it is very rare to have a contract for the next world cup cycle before the one you are in is over.  On Dec 14, Jurgen Klinsman signed a new deal to take him through 2018 and the next WC.  Why is this important?  I firmly believe that there was a conscious decision made in that week that said that 2014 is all but impossible to get out of that group and lets build to 2018.  That’s why Landon Donovan was dropped.  That’s why the US kept players like Julian Green and Aron Johansson.

 

The US does not present a goal scoring threat – and wont be able to stop anyone from getting chances either.  The Ghana match will be close – but the Portugal and Germany matches should be no contest and the US goes home with either zero or one point.  Portugal and Germany duke it out for the group, and both advance.  Ghana still too inconsistent on defense.

 

Group G

Germany         7

Portugal           7

Ghana             3

USA                0

 

Bets in Group G:

Germany / Portugal to advance -120 (1 unit)

USA to finish last +120 (1 units)

USA under 2.5 points +110 (2 units)



You made good cash for me in 2010, Van, and - I think - 2006 ?? So I'm delighted to find that u are still at it for 2014.  Good Luck. You deserve it, especially after that opening game.
I have two questions, please.  At first, I thought US rockbottom and  < 2.5 points were almost identical. Now I see if both lose to Port and Ger and tie v each other there could be a different result.
I couldn't find the < 2.5 points option at % Dimes. Did I miss it somewhere.?
Question 2: I tailed your Cameroon +1/2, PK with Heritage sports. But I don't know what it means, and couldn't find their rules to explain it. Can you help?
Thanks and thanks for sharing your knowledge about soccer and your knowledge about how to bet.
 
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Posted: #279
Mex ML +125 is the bet. best of luck to all 

remaining games for today

Holland +.5 
Chile ML 
Chile vs Socceros O2.5 (effin large!!!)

best of luck everyone
 
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Posted: #280
Quote Originally Posted by taurus:



You made good cash for me in 2010, Van, and - I think - 2006 ?? So I'm delighted to find that u are still at it for 2014.  Good Luck. You deserve it, especially after that opening game.
I have two questions, please.  At first, I thought US rockbottom and  < 2.5 points were almost identical. Now I see if both lose to Port and Ger and tie v each other there could be a different result.
I couldn't find the < 2.5 points option at % Dimes. Did I miss it somewhere.?
Question 2: I tailed your Cameroon +1/2, PK with Heritage sports. But I don't know what it means, and couldn't find their rules to explain it. Can you help?
Thanks and thanks for sharing your knowledge about soccer and your knowledge about how to bet.


In regards to question 2: Cameroon is +1/2 goal and you have them as a pick em in REGULATION time only. So, if its 0-0 at the end of the 90 and extra time, you will win (+1/2 goal) and push on the pick em.

Obviously, if Cameroon is ahead, they win the game and you win both plays.....
 
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Basically, you need them to win "outright" or be a "draw". Hope this helps!
 
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thank you, daytrader
that makes sense now that you have explained
GL to u
 
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Is there any way finding out WHO the referee will be for any particular match and what country they might hail from? 


And oh, I hope none of the refs attack a player and the fans go out on field and kill, castrate, and cut up "said" official which recently  happened at a SA match in the past year 
 
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Posted: #284

That is a pretty ominous first 10 minutes for Cameroon.

They better straighten out their defensive marking or they are going to get blitzed.  Mexico doing a great job so far of pressing Cameroon high up the field - and winning the ball quickly.

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Posted: #285
Quote Originally Posted by daytradernation:



In regards to question 2: Cameroon is +1/2 goal and you have them as a pick em in REGULATION time only. So, if its 0-0 at the end of the 90 and extra time, you will win (+1/2 goal) and push on the pick em.

Obviously, if Cameroon is ahead, they win the game and you win both plays.....
But is there Extra Time in the Group stage games... I thought those end at 90 mins even if it's a Draw?
 
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Posted: #286
I love the announcers.  From what I saw on that replay he was clearly offside.
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Posted: #287
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

I love the announcers.  From what I saw on that replay he was clearly offside.

Greek TV announcers would disagree. I'm torn; I think this should get called 50% of the time. A *very* close call from what I saw.
 
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Posted: #288
We will see the replay at HT.  His shoulders were leaning in.
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Posted: #289
Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

That is a pretty ominous first 10 minutes for Cameroon.

They better straighten out their defensive marking or they are going to get blitzed.  Mexico doing a great job so far of pressing Cameroon high up the field - and winning the ball quickly.


Agreed, but the lack of finishing in the box is still plaguing them.  

Hate watching these games on my computer at work.    And so does my boss!!  
 
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Posted: #290
If Mexico wants to play this attacking defense so high up the pitch - Cam will get breaks.  They have to adjust to this and be able to pass their way out of the traps.
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Posted: #291
I hope peoples opinion of Brazil has been affected by last nights mediocre performance and instead of -400 vs Mexico we get -300 or -275, Brazil will trash this Mexico side, I'm regretting putting money on them already, So unorganized, It's crazy.
 
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Twenty-something minutes in and any Cameroon backer should feel god-blessed for this game to still be tied. 

Good news for Neymar for top goal scorer bettors: Brazil will put 3-4 in the net, and probably won't have to break a sweat to do so. If it's Brazil, not Mexico, this game is 2-0.


 
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Posted: #293
That was supposed to say: Brazil will score 3-4 *on Cameroon*
 
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Posted: #294

Pretty simple. 

Cameroons man marking on defense is atrocious and they are getting killed on the flanks.  That must change.

Also - Mexico strategy is very good.  This high press the minute Cameroon gets the ball has been very successful.  Cam must adjust.  They have to be faster to break, and they have to present options to the man on the ball.  You can beat this with three or four good passes and then you are on the break.  Mexico is not giving Cam any space at all.

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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:

Pretty simple. 

Cameroons man marking on defense is atrocious and they are getting killed on the flanks.  That must change.

Also - Mexico strategy is very good.  This high press the minute Cameroon gets the ball has been very successful.  Cam must adjust.  They have to be faster to break, and they have to present options to the man on the ball.  You can beat this with three or four good passes and then you are on the break.  Mexico is not giving Cam any space at all.


You going to play Mexico ML 2H?  Sorry, but I didn't see what you were on this match.  I might take them, depending on the line.  I think they can break through and get one.   Assuming a 0-0 HT score line of course.
 
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Sorry, I see now you are on Cameroon for the FG.  
 
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Before I see the HT highlights...

The first goal I think was offside but very close.

The second goal - because the ball came off of the defenders head - it should have been a goal.  Dos Santos was in an offside position - but the offside should not have been called because it first came from a corner kick, then off the head of the defender.

We will see here at HT.  Im not at home so I don't have DVR....

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Im just going to sweat out this second half and hope for some HT adjustments by Cameroon.

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Posted: #299
Hey Van,

Mexico is now plus money at the half (+120).

Correct me if I am wrong...
If Mexico wins now, we lose 1 unit.
If we hedge with one unit on Mexico and Mexico wins we are up 0.2 units
If we hedge one unit on Mexico and its a draw, we lose 0.5 units
If we hedge one unit on Mexico and Cameroon wins we are up 0.02 units. 
So, isn't our biggest risk to do nothing and our best move to hedge on Mexico for one unit?
 
 
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The problem I have with a tight of side call like that the advantage rarely seems to go to the attacker which is what's meant to happen, i do lean the same opinion as you though i think his shoulder was very marginally putting him off side. The second goal was also as you said wrong call but the lineman can be forgiven for thinking that came of a mexican head as it just skimmed off the cameroonian
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