There was a lot of excitement for that big progression play and winning 120 units. I doubt that I have the funds and balls to play that.
If you look at week 1, 2 and 3, you will see a profit every year for ALL of those weeks. Seems to me we can make money just playing those bets and a sizeable amount. That was just flat betting and if you want to get creative with some labby lines there is probably a fair amount to be made. Especially since in each week you have games spanning multiple days not to mention multiple times.
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There was a lot of excitement for that big progression play and winning 120 units. I doubt that I have the funds and balls to play that.
If you look at week 1, 2 and 3, you will see a profit every year for ALL of those weeks. Seems to me we can make money just playing those bets and a sizeable amount. That was just flat betting and if you want to get creative with some labby lines there is probably a fair amount to be made. Especially since in each week you have games spanning multiple days not to mention multiple times.
Thanks for sharing this info! I wonder if an alternate way to play it is wait for a team to have 3 straight o's or u's and then start a 3 gm chase for that same result in one of the next 3 gms?
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Thanks for sharing this info! I wonder if an alternate way to play it is wait for a team to have 3 straight o's or u's and then start a 3 gm chase for that same result in one of the next 3 gms?
game number=7 and pppppp:ou margin<0 and ppppp:ou margin<0 and pppp:ou margin<0 and ppp:ou margin>0 and pp:ou margin>0 and p:ou margin>0
How come it is not possible to make the same query for NBA ? Anyone know hoe the syntax should be ?
I'll see if I can find that out........
but in the NFL (even though I'm not sure how much earlier sportsdatabase goes than 1989?),
only the Raiders in 1990 have started a season with UUUOOO
while,
the Raiders in 1989, Patriots in 1994, and Jets in 1997 have started a season with OOOUUU.
Although this isn't as good as the NCAA query, it's something to take note of.
At the same time, I don't know how to take into account teams that have a bye week? How early do bye weeks start? Cuz if they start within the first 6 games, that may throw off these numbers, cuz I searched for teams in week 7.
week = 7 and pppppp:O and ppppp:O and pppp:O and ppp:U and pp:U and p:U
and
week = 7 and pppppp:U and ppppp:U and pppp:U and ppp:O and pp:O and p:O
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Quote Originally Posted by sahlsa:
game number=7 and pppppp:ou margin<0 and ppppp:ou margin<0 and pppp:ou margin<0 and ppp:ou margin>0 and pp:ou margin>0 and p:ou margin>0
How come it is not possible to make the same query for NBA ? Anyone know hoe the syntax should be ?
I'll see if I can find that out........
but in the NFL (even though I'm not sure how much earlier sportsdatabase goes than 1989?),
only the Raiders in 1990 have started a season with UUUOOO
while,
the Raiders in 1989, Patriots in 1994, and Jets in 1997 have started a season with OOOUUU.
Although this isn't as good as the NCAA query, it's something to take note of.
At the same time, I don't know how to take into account teams that have a bye week? How early do bye weeks start? Cuz if they start within the first 6 games, that may throw off these numbers, cuz I searched for teams in week 7.
week = 7 and pppppp:O and ppppp:O and pppp:O and ppp:U and pp:U and p:U
and
week = 7 and pppppp:U and ppppp:U and pppp:U and ppp:O and pp:O and p:O
Hey guys.. I didnt really consider this for NFL, or NBA , to me this type of "win one unit per team" approach only makes sense for NCAAF with 120 Div 1 teams. ..or NCAA hoops with over 200 teams .. you can absorb a 6 game loss and still turn a profit , whereas in NBA, NFL etc . you only have 30 units to chase.. on 6 game loss and your guaranteed a huge loss.. generally I think leagues with less teams but long seasons (NBA, NHL, MLB) lend themsleves to season long recurring type chases, whereas leagues with a lot of teams, but short seasons (College Football and hoops), lend themsleves more to a "win one unit per team approach" ,,and i don't see any value in chasing NFL at all , as there is only 30 teams and a short season ,,, just my thoughts..
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Hey guys.. I didnt really consider this for NFL, or NBA , to me this type of "win one unit per team" approach only makes sense for NCAAF with 120 Div 1 teams. ..or NCAA hoops with over 200 teams .. you can absorb a 6 game loss and still turn a profit , whereas in NBA, NFL etc . you only have 30 units to chase.. on 6 game loss and your guaranteed a huge loss.. generally I think leagues with less teams but long seasons (NBA, NHL, MLB) lend themsleves to season long recurring type chases, whereas leagues with a lot of teams, but short seasons (College Football and hoops), lend themsleves more to a "win one unit per team approach" ,,and i don't see any value in chasing NFL at all , as there is only 30 teams and a short season ,,, just my thoughts..
Wow. So if you are betting to win 100 as your unit, @ -110, week one you would need to lay 13,200 to be in, right? 120 teams is 120 one unit wagers right? 120 x 110= 13,200.
I'm beat, and my math sucks when I am tired. Please let me know where I'm off here...
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Wow. So if you are betting to win 100 as your unit, @ -110, week one you would need to lay 13,200 to be in, right? 120 teams is 120 one unit wagers right? 120 x 110= 13,200.
I'm beat, and my math sucks when I am tired. Please let me know where I'm off here...
in week one teams play each other so 60 x 110 correct? or am i missing something there.
also confused on the chase a bit and what UUUOOO has to do with anything. are we betting that no team will start out with 6 straight unders? or just 3 straight under? thanks.
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in week one teams play each other so 60 x 110 correct? or am i missing something there.
also confused on the chase a bit and what UUUOOO has to do with anything. are we betting that no team will start out with 6 straight unders? or just 3 straight under? thanks.
I'm not entirely certain that I know how to create those queries, but when I looked for teams that went on an "over" streak to start the season, no one has ever gone past four straight overs. If our goal is to gain one unit per team as quickly as possible, it seems that only having to go to a fifth game is more desirable than going to a sixth or seventh game. Additionally, only nine teams even went to a fifth game, and the latest the system has ever gone is October 18th.
Like I said, I'm no expert on those queries, so someone can feel free to correct my research.
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I'm not entirely certain that I know how to create those queries, but when I looked for teams that went on an "over" streak to start the season, no one has ever gone past four straight overs. If our goal is to gain one unit per team as quickly as possible, it seems that only having to go to a fifth game is more desirable than going to a sixth or seventh game. Additionally, only nine teams even went to a fifth game, and the latest the system has ever gone is October 18th.
Like I said, I'm no expert on those queries, so someone can feel free to correct my research.
Hey Neilsy. I wish I knew how to run queries on the database, but I don't! That's why I'm asking the questions.
Anyway, I'm wondering how many teams started the season with 3 straight unders and how many teams started with 3 straight overs? If it is only a few, then forget it, but if it is a pretty good amount, why don't we wait for the first three weeks and then start our chase on week 4. Play every team that went UUU for 1 more under and every team OOO for 1 more over.
Just a thought, not sure how many plays it would generate, though. Thanks for the effort!
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Hey Neilsy. I wish I knew how to run queries on the database, but I don't! That's why I'm asking the questions.
Anyway, I'm wondering how many teams started the season with 3 straight unders and how many teams started with 3 straight overs? If it is only a few, then forget it, but if it is a pretty good amount, why don't we wait for the first three weeks and then start our chase on week 4. Play every team that went UUU for 1 more under and every team OOO for 1 more over.
Just a thought, not sure how many plays it would generate, though. Thanks for the effort!
Hey Neilsy. I wish I knew how to run queries on the database, but I don't! That's why I'm asking the questions.
Anyway, I'm wondering how many teams started the season with 3 straight unders and how many teams started with 3 straight overs? If it is only a few, then forget it, but if it is a pretty good amount, why don't we wait for the first three weeks and then start our chase on week 4. Play every team that went UUU for 1 more under and every team OOO for 1 more over.
Just a thought, not sure how many plays it would generate, though. Thanks for the effort!
hey Cinderella,,,wouldn"t generate that many..maybe 15-20 total .not bad ,but i think we could do better... jasonb..just looking at the stat coachnip mentioned.. i think you could wait till week 2..and then all teams that played an over week 1..start chasing to an under..or even the original plan as i laid out generated some major profits. closer to the season i am going to look at the past 5 years and see which approach would yeild the most $$.,keeping in mind that if you waited till week 2 and started a 4 game chase.. you could probably double your unit size in comparison to chasing to 6 from week one..definetely will be crunching the numbers on this closer to the season.. got some CFL and WNBA units to make in the meantime !
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Quote Originally Posted by CInderellaStory:
Hey Neilsy. I wish I knew how to run queries on the database, but I don't! That's why I'm asking the questions.
Anyway, I'm wondering how many teams started the season with 3 straight unders and how many teams started with 3 straight overs? If it is only a few, then forget it, but if it is a pretty good amount, why don't we wait for the first three weeks and then start our chase on week 4. Play every team that went UUU for 1 more under and every team OOO for 1 more over.
Just a thought, not sure how many plays it would generate, though. Thanks for the effort!
hey Cinderella,,,wouldn"t generate that many..maybe 15-20 total .not bad ,but i think we could do better... jasonb..just looking at the stat coachnip mentioned.. i think you could wait till week 2..and then all teams that played an over week 1..start chasing to an under..or even the original plan as i laid out generated some major profits. closer to the season i am going to look at the past 5 years and see which approach would yeild the most $$.,keeping in mind that if you waited till week 2 and started a 4 game chase.. you could probably double your unit size in comparison to chasing to 6 from week one..definetely will be crunching the numbers on this closer to the season.. got some CFL and WNBA units to make in the meantime !
neilsy25 if you could make a syntax for NBA trying to find out the records for systems such as after 4 straight over or unders and then chasing the opposite for 3 games i think you will find it is quite profitable. I ran a thread many months back if you want to check it out and this strategy looked really promising.
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neilsy25 if you could make a syntax for NBA trying to find out the records for systems such as after 4 straight over or unders and then chasing the opposite for 3 games i think you will find it is quite profitable. I ran a thread many months back if you want to check it out and this strategy looked really promising.
neilsy25 if you could make a syntax for NBA trying to find out the records for systems such as after 4 straight over or unders and then chasing the opposite for 3 games i think you will find it is quite profitable. I ran a thread many months back if you want to check it out and this strategy looked really promising.
Payday..your right,, i queried NBA back to 2005 .my query was a bit different Iooking for 3 unders and chasing the next 4 to go over.. 100+ units each year.. the opposite (3 overs then betting under) was not as profitable or consistent..
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Quote Originally Posted by payday000:
neilsy25 if you could make a syntax for NBA trying to find out the records for systems such as after 4 straight over or unders and then chasing the opposite for 3 games i think you will find it is quite profitable. I ran a thread many months back if you want to check it out and this strategy looked really promising.
Payday..your right,, i queried NBA back to 2005 .my query was a bit different Iooking for 3 unders and chasing the next 4 to go over.. 100+ units each year.. the opposite (3 overs then betting under) was not as profitable or consistent..
....therefore you simply bet every team over there first 3 games..when they hit they are done...then bet the remaining teams under the next 3, once all teams are done you are done.
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....therefore you simply bet every team over there first 3 games..when they hit they are done...then bet the remaining teams under the next 3, once all teams are done you are done.
I went thru all team's first board games from last year. My research did not agree with the chart shown earlier in this thread. I came up with 51 Over-67 Under-2 Push for the first lined games for each of the 120 NCAA D-1 teams. The chart showed that the first games went 70 Over-50 Under. This is betting all team's first lined games over.
While this makes no difference in the end result, it does effect the number of games and money involved in week two of this system.
Please advise if I overlooked something.
GL
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I went thru all team's first board games from last year. My research did not agree with the chart shown earlier in this thread. I came up with 51 Over-67 Under-2 Push for the first lined games for each of the 120 NCAA D-1 teams. The chart showed that the first games went 70 Over-50 Under. This is betting all team's first lined games over.
While this makes no difference in the end result, it does effect the number of games and money involved in week two of this system.
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