NYG 37
Philly 27
could be wrong...
NBA TEST FORMULA
This is a test formula using last seasons stats. Do not consider this a formula play in any way. System uses very similar principles as football system, using POINTS PER ATTEMPT in each shooting situation in place of YPPT.
Test Projection
2 PTA PPA 3PTA PPA FTA PPA
Boston 57.83 .962 16.95 1.065 22.93 .821
Cleveland 56.67 .961 19.56 1.067 26.08 .771
Projected Score
Boston 92.47
Cleveland 95.44
Remember this is in the trial phase I need this years stats for more accurate results.
GL
NBA TEST FORMULA
This is a test formula using last seasons stats. Do not consider this a formula play in any way. System uses very similar principles as football system, using POINTS PER ATTEMPT in each shooting situation in place of YPPT.
Test Projection
2 PTA PPA 3PTA PPA FTA PPA
Boston 57.83 .962 16.95 1.065 22.93 .821
Cleveland 56.67 .961 19.56 1.067 26.08 .771
Projected Score
Boston 92.47
Cleveland 95.44
Remember this is in the trial phase I need this years stats for more accurate results.
GL
There are much better ways to test the accuracy of your model than just the ATS record of when the games meet your criteria.
Action points is one of them. Actions points is how the team did in relation to the spread. So if the thread is +7 and the team looses by 3 your are -4 action points. If they win by 3 you are +10 action points. Your goal is to be as positive as possible
Ther other is how often does your model say to bet an opening line but pass on a closing line. This is showing you if your model is in agreement with the market. This is the strongest way to predict the sccuracy of your model. If your model isconstantly predicting the correct movement of the market it IS A WINNER.
Also keep in mind that almost no models do well in al situations. Dr. Bob boasts the most famous and accurate math model on the planet (that we know of atleast). And even he admitted that his model seriously struggles on large road favorites. This comes from some serious testing and work and if you guys are willing to do that than give up on the whole"math to give you and edge" mindet, because you wont get one.
I understand you were just answering their question. this is for everyone else
There are much better ways to test the accuracy of your model than just the ATS record of when the games meet your criteria.
Action points is one of them. Actions points is how the team did in relation to the spread. So if the thread is +7 and the team looses by 3 your are -4 action points. If they win by 3 you are +10 action points. Your goal is to be as positive as possible
Ther other is how often does your model say to bet an opening line but pass on a closing line. This is showing you if your model is in agreement with the market. This is the strongest way to predict the sccuracy of your model. If your model isconstantly predicting the correct movement of the market it IS A WINNER.
Also keep in mind that almost no models do well in al situations. Dr. Bob boasts the most famous and accurate math model on the planet (that we know of atleast). And even he admitted that his model seriously struggles on large road favorites. This comes from some serious testing and work and if you guys are willing to do that than give up on the whole"math to give you and edge" mindet, because you wont get one.
I understand you were just answering their question. this is for everyone else
There are much better ways to test the accuracy of your model than just the ATS record of when the games meet your criteria.
Action points is one of them. Actions points is how the team did in relation to the spread. So if the thread is +7 and the team looses by 3 your are -4 action points. If they win by 3 you are +10 action points. Your goal is to be as positive as possible
Ther other is how often does your model say to bet an opening line but pass on a closing line. This is showing you if your model is in agreement with the market. This is the strongest way to predict the sccuracy of your model. If your model isconstantly predicting the correct movement of the market it IS A WINNER.
Also keep in mind that almost no models do well in al situations. Dr. Bob boasts the most famous and accurate math model on the planet (that we know of atleast). And even he admitted that his model seriously struggles on large road favorites. This comes from some serious testing and work and if you guys are willing to do that than give up on the whole"math to give you and edge" mindet, because you wont get one.
I understand you were just answering their question. this is for everyone else
There are much better ways to test the accuracy of your model than just the ATS record of when the games meet your criteria.
Action points is one of them. Actions points is how the team did in relation to the spread. So if the thread is +7 and the team looses by 3 your are -4 action points. If they win by 3 you are +10 action points. Your goal is to be as positive as possible
Ther other is how often does your model say to bet an opening line but pass on a closing line. This is showing you if your model is in agreement with the market. This is the strongest way to predict the sccuracy of your model. If your model isconstantly predicting the correct movement of the market it IS A WINNER.
Also keep in mind that almost no models do well in al situations. Dr. Bob boasts the most famous and accurate math model on the planet (that we know of atleast). And even he admitted that his model seriously struggles on large road favorites. This comes from some serious testing and work and if you guys are willing to do that than give up on the whole"math to give you and edge" mindet, because you wont get one.
I understand you were just answering their question. this is for everyone else
I understand where the action points come from & I dabbled with them some time ago, but imo, they cant be used to predict future events with a winning percentage worthy of your money. Maybe someone can do something new with them.
I understand where the action points come from & I dabbled with them some time ago, but imo, they cant be used to predict future events with a winning percentage worthy of your money. Maybe someone can do something new with them.
I've picked the Baltimore/Denver stats to try and work on this formula in my own spreadsheet.
Roughshod31 or VGPOP, any chance you have time to put a breakdown of the stats together to show which forumulas are required ? (something like post #37 of this thread)
If your tired of answering this, I understand, I'll do my best to figure it out.
I've picked the Baltimore/Denver stats to try and work on this formula in my own spreadsheet.
Roughshod31 or VGPOP, any chance you have time to put a breakdown of the stats together to show which forumulas are required ? (something like post #37 of this thread)
If your tired of answering this, I understand, I'll do my best to figure it out.
Hi roughshod.
I forgot to ask you what you were using for sos, original or team efficiency with the Sagarin team power rating/ it's schedule rating. I noticed in your example you gave me you used the original sos and I was just curious. The team efficiency way can get some big changes with the real bad and the real good teams.
ty
Hi roughshod.
I forgot to ask you what you were using for sos, original or team efficiency with the Sagarin team power rating/ it's schedule rating. I noticed in your example you gave me you used the original sos and I was just curious. The team efficiency way can get some big changes with the real bad and the real good teams.
ty
I posted a few pages ago...could someone send me the spreadshet?
I've got an Excel wiz here that would love to have a look for potential improvements for the group.
Any help is much appreciated. THANKS!!!!
I posted a few pages ago...could someone send me the spreadshet?
I've got an Excel wiz here that would love to have a look for potential improvements for the group.
Any help is much appreciated. THANKS!!!!
Hey Lou,
I thought the SOS was just the SCHEDL number? I may be wrong, just wondering.
I believe he was getting the SOS from USA Today
Remember seeing something about it on page 30 or 31 ??
Hey Lou,
I thought the SOS was just the SCHEDL number? I may be wrong, just wondering.
I believe he was getting the SOS from USA Today
Remember seeing something about it on page 30 or 31 ??
Hey Lou,
I thought the SOS was just the SCHEDL number? I may be wrong, just wondering.
Hey recon,
The original way was to take the schedule numbers of both teams add them together and then divide the sum by two. After, you get that number you divide each teams schedule number into the number. Roughshod was also trying a different formula for sos so that is why I asked. sos is a very important part of the equation and I just wanted to make sure what he thought was best. Hope this helps.
Hey Lou,
I thought the SOS was just the SCHEDL number? I may be wrong, just wondering.
Hey recon,
The original way was to take the schedule numbers of both teams add them together and then divide the sum by two. After, you get that number you divide each teams schedule number into the number. Roughshod was also trying a different formula for sos so that is why I asked. sos is a very important part of the equation and I just wanted to make sure what he thought was best. Hope this helps.
I believe he was getting the SOS from USA Today
Remember seeing something about it on page 30 or 31 ??
Thanks horseman,
Both sos formulas came from USA today I believe but that is the original that he used there on that page.
I believe he was getting the SOS from USA Today
Remember seeing something about it on page 30 or 31 ??
Thanks horseman,
Both sos formulas came from USA today I believe but that is the original that he used there on that page.
Hey guys, I think I finally have the spreadsheet, but my number is off for Ind and SF, I used them as an example. I have...
IND 31 SF 14
Can anyone verify these numbers for me and who is willing to verify my spreadsheet. Especially anyone that knows this system, please tell me if I have this correct. I have a spreadsheet ready to be sent. PM me if you want to check it out.
Recon
Hey guys, I think I finally have the spreadsheet, but my number is off for Ind and SF, I used them as an example. I have...
IND 31 SF 14
Can anyone verify these numbers for me and who is willing to verify my spreadsheet. Especially anyone that knows this system, please tell me if I have this correct. I have a spreadsheet ready to be sent. PM me if you want to check it out.
Recon
Is this thread going to split the college games from the pro? I've read the blog last night, impressive.
I'm interested in learning the system and hope to contribute. After I read the thread again I will try to do a few games then ask questions. Not here for a free ride.
Is this thread going to split the college games from the pro? I've read the blog last night, impressive.
I'm interested in learning the system and hope to contribute. After I read the thread again I will try to do a few games then ask questions. Not here for a free ride.
Hey guys, I think I finally have the spreadsheet, but my number is off for Ind and SF, I used them as an example. I have...
IND 31 SF 14
Can anyone verify these numbers for me and who is willing to verify my spreadsheet. Especially anyone that knows this system, please tell me if I have this correct. I have a spreadsheet ready to be sent. PM me if you want to check it out.
Recon
Hiya recon,
Using the original Sagarin/Roughshod sos and no HFA I got:
sfo 15.2
ind 21.9
Hey guys, I think I finally have the spreadsheet, but my number is off for Ind and SF, I used them as an example. I have...
IND 31 SF 14
Can anyone verify these numbers for me and who is willing to verify my spreadsheet. Especially anyone that knows this system, please tell me if I have this correct. I have a spreadsheet ready to be sent. PM me if you want to check it out.
Recon
Hiya recon,
Using the original Sagarin/Roughshod sos and no HFA I got:
sfo 15.2
ind 21.9
Nice! Did anyone post the formula on tonights play(WV at So Fla)? GLTA
Nice! Did anyone post the formula on tonights play(WV at So Fla)? GLTA
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