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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 5:15 PM ET #851

    Quote Originally Posted by recon168:

    Hey guys I found this, interesting:

    Home Field Advantage in the NFL

    In the NFL, home field advantage (HFA) also increases from the regular season to the playoffs even though the league’s single-game playoff format provides no incentive to prolong a series. One big reason for the difference is due to the relative strength of opponents.

    The NFL’s regular season HFA is 57%--the home team wins 57 out of 100 times. But in the playoffs it’s 68%. The biggest difference between regular season games and playoff games is the relative strength of opponents. Regular season games can feature mismatches, but playoff games feature only opponents who are relatively close in ability.

    When teams are well-matched in ability, other factors such as HFA, which are normally small, appear more decisive. There are fewer cases of games that feature a strong visitor against a weak home team in the playoffs. The winning percentage of the home team would therefore naturally increase.

    Home Court Advantage in the NBA

    In the NBA, HCA is even stronger than the NFL’s HFA. Think of home advantage not as a game-long effect, but as a tiny advantage on each possession. The NBA plays quickly with a short shot clock and long 48 minute games. It’s a sport on speed. Each team gets about 100 possessions per game. Over the course of each possession, a HCA effect accrues into a very large game-long effect. HCA in the NBA is unusually strong for natural reasons having nothing to do with bias.

    In the NBA playoffs, HCA is magnified by the same process at work in the NFL. Teams are closer in ability, and therefore other factors such as HCA appear to be more decisive.

    https://www.advancednflstats.com/2008/06/bias-and-home-advantage-in-nba-vs-nfl.html



    Could it be that the home team during the playoffs is a better team since they had to have a better record to get that home field?
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    Quote Originally Posted by recon168:

    Hey guys I found this, interesting:

    Home Field Advantage in the NFL

    In the NFL, home field advantage (HFA) also increases from the regular season to the playoffs even though the league’s single-game playoff format provides no incentive to prolong a series. One big reason for the difference is due to the relative strength of opponents.

    The NFL’s regular season HFA is 57%--the home team wins 57 out of 100 times. But in the playoffs it’s 68%. The biggest difference between regular season games and playoff games is the relative strength of opponents. Regular season games can feature mismatches, but playoff games feature only opponents who are relatively close in ability.

    When teams are well-matched in ability, other factors such as HFA, which are normally small, appear more decisive. There are fewer cases of games that feature a strong visitor against a weak home team in the playoffs. The winning percentage of the home team would therefore naturally increase.

    Home Court Advantage in the NBA

    In the NBA, HCA is even stronger than the NFL’s HFA. Think of home advantage not as a game-long effect, but as a tiny advantage on each possession. The NBA plays quickly with a short shot clock and long 48 minute games. It’s a sport on speed. Each team gets about 100 possessions per game. Over the course of each possession, a HCA effect accrues into a very large game-long effect. HCA in the NBA is unusually strong for natural reasons having nothing to do with bias.

    In the NBA playoffs, HCA is magnified by the same process at work in the NFL. Teams are closer in ability, and therefore other factors such as HCA appear to be more decisive.

    https://www.advancednflstats.com/2008/06/bias-and-home-advantage-in-nba-vs-nfl.html



    Could it be that the home team during the playoffs is a better team since they had to have a better record to get that home field?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 6:19 PM ET #852

    Does someone know what formula function to use when setting excel to do the NBA no.' that Rough posted?.............thanks again Rough
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    Does someone know what formula function to use when setting excel to do the NBA no.' that Rough posted?.............thanks again Rough
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 7:10 PM ET #853

    Can someone please PM me the spreadsheet?  Thanks!!!
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 7:47 PM ET #854

       squarenit,

    Need an email, but not in the thread...........

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       squarenit,

    Need an email, but not in the thread...........

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 8:15 PM ET #855

    Hey can anyone send me the excel spread sheet please....thanks in advanced
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    Hey can anyone send me the excel spread sheet please....thanks in advanced
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 8:41 PM ET #856

    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Hi roughshod.  

    I forgot to ask you what you were using for sos, original or team efficiency with the Sagarin team power rating/ it's schedule rating.  I noticed in your example you gave me you used the original sos and I was just curious.  The team efficiency way can get some big changes with the real bad and the real good teams.

    ty



    If I remember reading correctly in one of the yppt threads, either VG or rough said that they used the Sagarin SOS and added +3 or +3.5 for HFA.  Not sure if those numbers are correct, but I will check.

    Been following these yppt's for a couple of weeks now and still having math difficulties.  So many numbers :)  If someone wants to friend me or send me the sheet I would glady help out!

    Thanks to the people who are working so hard for the rest of us!
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    Quote Originally Posted by lou4062:

    Hi roughshod.  

    I forgot to ask you what you were using for sos, original or team efficiency with the Sagarin team power rating/ it's schedule rating.  I noticed in your example you gave me you used the original sos and I was just curious.  The team efficiency way can get some big changes with the real bad and the real good teams.

    ty



    If I remember reading correctly in one of the yppt threads, either VG or rough said that they used the Sagarin SOS and added +3 or +3.5 for HFA.  Not sure if those numbers are correct, but I will check.

    Been following these yppt's for a couple of weeks now and still having math difficulties.  So many numbers :)  If someone wants to friend me or send me the sheet I would glady help out!

    Thanks to the people who are working so hard for the rest of us!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 9:09 PM ET #857

    to figure tonights game (w.v. vs. s.fla) when figuring opp allowed:

    w virg off (do i use sfla opp allow offense or defense opp allow, or do I use w virg. opp allow offense or defense?) 

    thx for the help trying to understand how this works. I have it figured out except i dont understand which opponent allowed stats to use where.

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    to figure tonights game (w.v. vs. s.fla) when figuring opp allowed:

    w virg off (do i use sfla opp allow offense or defense opp allow, or do I use w virg. opp allow offense or defense?) 

    thx for the help trying to understand how this works. I have it figured out except i dont understand which opponent allowed stats to use where.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 9:46 PM ET #858

    I capped it using this formula (if I capped it correctly)

    at

    W Virginia 24

    S. Florida 27

    did anyone else come up with this or am I way off?

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    I capped it using this formula (if I capped it correctly)

    at

    W Virginia 24

    S. Florida 27

    did anyone else come up with this or am I way off?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 30, 2009 - 10:05 PM ET #859

    Quote Originally Posted by recon168:

    Hi NFLNut,

    Do you mean for example for SF/Indy, using SF's Off Road Game numbers and using Indy's Off Home Game numbers?

     

    I thought SF Road offense/defense stats and Indy's Home offense/defense stats seemed like a good idea.

    Using those stats, the HFA adjustsment of 1.36 and no SOS (it's skewed with SF home games and Indy road games), I get SF 13 (12.5) and Indy 24 (24.71)

     

    If I use the SOS adjustment, then my numbers are bang on with Recon168.  SF 16.66 to Indy 19.44.

    I'm not sold on using a strength of schedule adjustment yet...

    Good stuff so far, keep up the good work

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    Quote Originally Posted by recon168:

    Hi NFLNut,

    Do you mean for example for SF/Indy, using SF's Off Road Game numbers and using Indy's Off Home Game numbers?

     

    I thought SF Road offense/defense stats and Indy's Home offense/defense stats seemed like a good idea.

    Using those stats, the HFA adjustsment of 1.36 and no SOS (it's skewed with SF home games and Indy road games), I get SF 13 (12.5) and Indy 24 (24.71)

     

    If I use the SOS adjustment, then my numbers are bang on with Recon168.  SF 16.66 to Indy 19.44.

    I'm not sold on using a strength of schedule adjustment yet...

    Good stuff so far, keep up the good work

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 12:57 AM ET #860

    I be following the post and having a hard time coming up with the same numbers in my excel sheet can anyone send me there excel spread sheet please....thanks in advanced
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    I be following the post and having a hard time coming up with the same numbers in my excel sheet can anyone send me there excel spread sheet please....thanks in advanced
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 12:57 AM ET #861

    I be following the post and having a hard time coming up with the same numbers in my excel sheet can anyone send me there excel spread sheet please....thanks in advanced
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    I be following the post and having a hard time coming up with the same numbers in my excel sheet can anyone send me there excel spread sheet please....thanks in advanced
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 11:28 AM ET #862

    Roughshods Saturday 7 Pack

    After doing the calculations for todays games using 2 sets of power ratings for SOS purposes these are the 7 teams who meet the 7 point +/- criteria to be considered a play.

    Florida State     -10.0

    SMU                 +14.0

    UCLA                +10.0

    Texas                -9.5

    Penn St.             -17.0

    Florida International    -5.0

    Louisiana Monroe       +14.0

    GL Today


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    Roughshods Saturday 7 Pack

    After doing the calculations for todays games using 2 sets of power ratings for SOS purposes these are the 7 teams who meet the 7 point +/- criteria to be considered a play.

    Florida State     -10.0

    SMU                 +14.0

    UCLA                +10.0

    Texas                -9.5

    Penn St.             -17.0

    Florida International    -5.0

    Louisiana Monroe       +14.0

    GL Today


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 11:33 AM ET #863

    GSHawk,

    I added you as a friend, would appreciate if you could add me so I can send you my email address for the spreadsheet.

    Thanks!
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    GSHawk,

    I added you as a friend, would appreciate if you could add me so I can send you my email address for the spreadsheet.

    Thanks!
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #864

    Thanks RS31 for these plays.  GL!

    Would someone please PM me so I can get the spreadsheet too please?  Great Thread!!!!

     

    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    Roughshods Saturday 7 Pack

    After doing the calculations for todays games using 2 sets of power ratings for SOS purposes these are the 7 teams who meet the 7 point +/- criteria to be considered a play.

    Florida State     -10.0

    SMU                 +14.0

    UCLA                +10.0

    Texas                -9.5

    Penn St.             -17.0

    Florida International    -5.0

    Louisiana Monroe       +14.0

    GL Today


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    Thanks RS31 for these plays.  GL!

    Would someone please PM me so I can get the spreadsheet too please?  Great Thread!!!!

     

    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    Roughshods Saturday 7 Pack

    After doing the calculations for todays games using 2 sets of power ratings for SOS purposes these are the 7 teams who meet the 7 point +/- criteria to be considered a play.

    Florida State     -10.0

    SMU                 +14.0

    UCLA                +10.0

    Texas                -9.5

    Penn St.             -17.0

    Florida International    -5.0

    Louisiana Monroe       +14.0

    GL Today


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 12:03 PM ET #865

    Thanks RS31 for these plays.  GL!

    Would someone please PM me so I can get the spreadsheet too please?  Great Thread!!!!

     

    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    Roughshods Saturday 7 Pack

    After doing the calculations for todays games using 2 sets of power ratings for SOS purposes these are the 7 teams who meet the 7 point +/- criteria to be considered a play.

    Florida State     -10.0

    SMU                 +14.0

    UCLA                +10.0

    Texas                -9.5

    Penn St.             -17.0

    Florida International    -5.0

    Louisiana Monroe       +14.0

    GL Today


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    Thanks RS31 for these plays.  GL!

    Would someone please PM me so I can get the spreadsheet too please?  Great Thread!!!!

     

    Quote Originally Posted by roughshod31:

    Roughshods Saturday 7 Pack

    After doing the calculations for todays games using 2 sets of power ratings for SOS purposes these are the 7 teams who meet the 7 point +/- criteria to be considered a play.

    Florida State     -10.0

    SMU                 +14.0

    UCLA                +10.0

    Texas                -9.5

    Penn St.             -17.0

    Florida International    -5.0

    Louisiana Monroe       +14.0

    GL Today


     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 12:50 PM ET #866

        Dododue.............it's done !
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 3:30 PM ET #867

    GSHawk20 can you also send me the spreed sheet that would great thanks
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 5:17 PM ET #868

    I would like the spreadsheet as well pleas. TY
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 5:24 PM ET #869

    dododue and GSHawk20, i have added you both to my friends, could you please send the spreadsheet over if i give you my email addy...thanks in advanced
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 7:29 PM ET #870

    Thanks GSHawk, is that the excel sheet?  how do i down load the spread sheet?
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    Thanks GSHawk, is that the excel sheet?  how do i down load the spread sheet?
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 7:41 PM ET #871

     RINO808...........https://www.statfox.com/nfl/gamematchup.asp,

    THEN EXTENDED MATCHUPS, THEN COPY & PASTE WHERE THE DIRECTIONS SAY IN THE EXCEL SHEET.

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     RINO808...........https://www.statfox.com/nfl/gamematchup.asp,

    THEN EXTENDED MATCHUPS, THEN COPY & PASTE WHERE THE DIRECTIONS SAY IN THE EXCEL SHEET.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 7:48 PM ET #872

     NFL   PREDICTIONS w/lines USING EXCEL WITH MY FILTERS.........SEE WHAT HAPPENS............

    N.Y. Giants      43 
    Philadelphia     17   1
       
    Miami             19 
    N.Y. Jets         20  -3.5
       
    San Francisco  13 
    Indianapolis      24  -13.5
       
    St. Louis      10 
    Detroit          27  -4
       
    Seattle          18 
    Dallas           26 -9.5
       
    Cleveland        12 
    Chicago          25 -13
       
    Houston          21 
    Buffalo            20 3.5
       
    Denver          20 
    Baltimore     17 -3.5
       
    Oakland           9 
    San Diego       34 -16.5
       
    Jacksonville    30 
    Tennessee     18 -3
       
    Carolina           7 
    Arizona          45 -10
       
    Minnesota      24 
    Green Bay     22 -3
       
       
       
    MON.   
    Atlanta          23 
    New Orleans  30 -11

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     NFL   PREDICTIONS w/lines USING EXCEL WITH MY FILTERS.........SEE WHAT HAPPENS............

    N.Y. Giants      43 
    Philadelphia     17   1
       
    Miami             19 
    N.Y. Jets         20  -3.5
       
    San Francisco  13 
    Indianapolis      24  -13.5
       
    St. Louis      10 
    Detroit          27  -4
       
    Seattle          18 
    Dallas           26 -9.5
       
    Cleveland        12 
    Chicago          25 -13
       
    Houston          21 
    Buffalo            20 3.5
       
    Denver          20 
    Baltimore     17 -3.5
       
    Oakland           9 
    San Diego       34 -16.5
       
    Jacksonville    30 
    Tennessee     18 -3
       
    Carolina           7 
    Arizona          45 -10
       
    Minnesota      24 
    Green Bay     22 -3
       
       
       
    MON.   
    Atlanta          23 
    New Orleans  30 -11

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 8:01 PM ET #873

     MY PLAYS FOR SUNDAY ARE: using the ecel yppt system.

     

    Detroit  -4

    San Diego -16.5

    Arizona -10

    Bears -13

    10 pt. teaser

    Detroit -4

    Maybe the over in Giants game

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     MY PLAYS FOR SUNDAY ARE: using the ecel yppt system.

     

    Detroit  -4

    San Diego -16.5

    Arizona -10

    Bears -13

    10 pt. teaser

    Detroit -4

    Maybe the over in Giants game

     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 8:42 PM ET #874

    Very interesting work.  I'm always looking for another way to look at things.

    GSHawk could you share the sheet with me also.

    Thanks

     

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    Very interesting work.  I'm always looking for another way to look at things.

    GSHawk could you share the sheet with me also.

    Thanks

     

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 31, 2009 - 9:26 PM ET #875

    GSHawk,,,,,i would like the spreadsheet if you dont mind! tried to get it from UsaSurfer but didn't come through! Thanks in advance!
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    GSHawk,,,,,i would like the spreadsheet if you dont mind! tried to get it from UsaSurfer but didn't come through! Thanks in advance!
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