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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:

mdaakd,

Just having a knowledgeable conversation on how good football is today compared to 1985 could have used any year but were choosing 85 for the discussion no belittleing are name calling just and honest comparision ok......


1985 QB position....Hall-of-famers playing then!!!
DAN MARINO
JIM KELLY
WARREN MOON
JOHN ELWAY
DAN FOUTS
JOE MONTANA
STEVE YOUNG

2007......
PEYTON MANNING
BRETT FAVRE
TOM BRADY


Could be missing a couple not sure but honestly you believe football is better today than back then and honestly believe what the patriots are doing now to really be something special. You already no what i think just want to see your observation on it.....  
  

So what exactly is your point???  That has absolutely no relevance to what I said about how the Bears are a bad football team this year.  I never disagreed with you that the Bears had a good team in 85 (probably before you were hatched).  I was disagreeing with you regarding the Patriots this year.  The Pats are a cancer running through the NFL.  This is too funny.

A lot of good QBs are still in their early playing years (Palmer, Romo, Roethlisberger, etc).  You cannot compare these two classes since their careers are still going on. 

 
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MDAAKD,

What i'm saying is this league is awful!!!!! Honestly speaking besides the pats,colts,cowboys,packers everyone else is just middle of the pack or way,way worse.....I guess the only thing you can do is congratulate the pats on beating up division 2 competition.....I mean look at the colts as well they have started the last 3 years like 9-0,12-0,7-0 i mean back in the day what the colts did and what the pats are doing now is nothing....this years pats back in the day would probably be 8-5 or 9-4 right now this league is just......BAD!!BAD!!!BAD!!! And if you guys truly can't see that then god help you. 
 
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Anybody who thinks that it was tom brady who was the reason for them going and winning there first superbowl is a damn fool!!!! The playoff game with oakland at foxbourgh in the snow besides the bad call on the tukerule there is not one absouletly not one kicker who could have kicked that 45 yard fieldgoal in 6 foot of snow and the blizzard of snow blowing in his face and the goalpost not even visible.....So you remove adam vinateri from that team and tom brady does not beat oakland and does not go on and win the superbowl verus st.louis rams in which bye the way it was vinateri kick from 48 yards that won the superbowl.......So tom brady is just one lucky s.o.b who had the best kicker in football so when you honestly break this down........vinateri reason for 2 rings......brady 1 ring!!!!!!!! FACT.....  
 
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OMFG!!!...this useless thread is still going
 
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 blah, blah, blah. NE this NE that. wouldn't it be nice if the Dophins beat them?
 
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Alright the wiseman from chicago has spoken and let his followers know that these are the following plays for today......

JETS +21.5 $2200/2000
JETS/PATS OVER 41 $1100/1000
JETS ML +1200  $300/3600


GL to all my followers and the armored truck is being gas'ed up as we speak!!!!!!!!!!
 
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Wiseman
 
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The wiseman from chicago........Adding a play for all his loyal followers.....


INDY -9.5 $2200/2000


All my loyal subjects we will rejoice at days end with all of our printed green paper!!!!! 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:

Hey guys,

Let me just say there is way to many people who think this team is the best thing since sliced bread and im here to tell you thats not the case. First off there was someone on the forum who was talking about how easy the 72 dolphins had it and im not here to dispute that but just take a long look at the patriots. the 72 dolphins opponets had a win pct% .365 the "07 pats pct% .432 which is likely to go down seeing as the dolphins or jets wont win another game this year and if the pats go undefeated that means another loss for pitt and the gmen so as you can see not that big a difference there. Next in 72 the dolphins won there division finishing 2nd was the jets 7-7 the 07 pats won there division finishing 2nd the bills who may not finish at .500%.
at the very best the pats may play 4 teams with 10 or more wins thats assuming the giants get to 10wins. compare that to the 85 bears who played 6 team with 10 or more wins. also look at the pats there not very good on defense unless there ahead by 21 they cant run the ball constintaly on offense when or if the weather gets bad in the playoffs then they are not much better if at all then anyone else because they are just like the '99,'00 rams a finese team. One other thing back in 72 the dolphins even though there were unbeaten had to go on the road to pittsburgh in the playoffs no such thing as homefield thru out the playoffs back then. So before you go off praising this team as the best ever make sure you get your facts straight.     

You are a dillusional moron, this Pats team would smoke the 85 Bears. Get over it, your Bears suck this year abd Indy wiped the field with their sorry asses in the Super Bowl last year.

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Smoltz29:

You are a dillusional moron, this Pats team would smoke the 85 Bears. Get over it, your Bears suck this year abd Indy wiped the field with their sorry asses in the Super Bowl last year.



Well said.... well said. 
 
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I want to thank the patriots....


JETS +21.5 WINNER
JETS/PATS OVER 41 LOSER
JETS ML +1200 LOSER


1-2 +600


Thank you for playing just like i thought you would!!!!
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:

I want to thank the patriots....


JETS +21.5 WINNER
JETS/PATS OVER 41 LOSER
JETS ML +1200 LOSER


1-2 +600


Thank you for playing just like i thought you would!!!!
 

+600??? Didn't you lose the Indy game????

And, the Patriots are still undefeated

 
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Yes the colts came up losers for us and all the followers.......

today 1-3 -1600!!!!!


But there are always two things i can can't on.....One being the pats coming thru for me ATS......And the followers respecting the hell out of the wiseman from chicago!!!!!!  
 
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After watching the patriots today.....I'm now even more sure that they want make the superbowl!!!!!!!!!
 
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Would love to see them have to go thru jacksonville and then indy in the playoffs because i know they can't and then you will no longer have to put up with these annoying pats fans because they will be to busy..
 
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Well with the help of mangenius was able to steal from that patriots ATS train for the 3rd time in the last 4 weeks.....This is truly been to easy!!!!!!!!
 
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Would just like to say your welcome to all my followers tonite who just happen to cash another winner sometimes it's just too easy.......bears give us a winning ticket!!!!! As always the wiseman see's all and know's all.....See you guys later in the week!!
 
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THE PATRIOTS WILL NOT WIN THE SUPER BOWL
 
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lol it has truly been too easy to go -1600 for the day??
 
hey congrats PP...it must feel good losing 1600 so easily
 
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If you read my other thread for lastnites game you saw how easily it was to get back 1500 while tons of cappers on here were trying to get you to burn your money on the vikings......Trust the wiseman he is wise!!!!!!!!!
 
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They're over rated and will lose in the first round of the playoffs
 
 
Seriously... they may be the best team ever.
Certainly right up there with the best.  Some of the Steelers teams in the '70s and the Packers teams are up there.  The Browns teams in the '60s and the Niners teams in the '80s can make arguments as well. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by 34paytonplace:

If you read my other thread for lastnites game you saw how easily it was to get back 1500 while tons of cappers on here were trying to get you to burn your money on the vikings......Trust the wiseman he is wise!!!!!!!!!

How about mentioning the losses as well (instead of others pointing them out to you).  Whatever makes you sleep at night

Bears don't look like they will bounce back anytime soon. 

 
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Hey you must be completely blind my record was posted sunday nite and what i lost sunday......See guys another bitter vikings fan who did'nt listen to me and decided to bet the vikings minus that big number hey don't take it out on me i did'nt twist your arm and tell you to play minnestoa i tried to help by giving everyone the bears plus the number!!!!!!!! I'm disappointed in you MDAAKD thought you had better class than this....
 
 
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Poll on ESPN on weather the pats go 19-0 and 52% of america says they do not........Little of half of america is very intelligent!!!!!!!!!
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