I guess I understand your sentiment, I don't need all this hate. If you don't want to pay a penance for quality analysis then I don't know who I was trying to help in the first place.
Look around this site. You see people making huge mistakes all the time. You see people posting bets and not offering one shred of analysis to go along with it.
You go to NFL.com, you see people pontificating about a game they don't understand. Giving lists that aren't even indicative of the games that are played. You see people creating linear story lines that have nothing to do with X's and O's.
Go ahead and look around THIS site. You are currently, by clicking and participating, paying Covers.com to keep this forum going through advertising dollars. At the top of the page they have adverts for picks. I don't know what they are charging, but $5 sounds like nothing to me if I had been able to trust a dude's analysis when I was less experienced. I lost hundreds of dollars to get where I am now.
And to the previous poster, I am not selling anything, I am simply letting you guys know that I will no longer be giving my picks away. The option of purchasing picks has surfaced, but if you don't want it don't contact me. I think you guys are just angry because you know I'm going to continue to watch the hours of film you don't want to.
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I guess I understand your sentiment, I don't need all this hate. If you don't want to pay a penance for quality analysis then I don't know who I was trying to help in the first place.
Look around this site. You see people making huge mistakes all the time. You see people posting bets and not offering one shred of analysis to go along with it.
You go to NFL.com, you see people pontificating about a game they don't understand. Giving lists that aren't even indicative of the games that are played. You see people creating linear story lines that have nothing to do with X's and O's.
Go ahead and look around THIS site. You are currently, by clicking and participating, paying Covers.com to keep this forum going through advertising dollars. At the top of the page they have adverts for picks. I don't know what they are charging, but $5 sounds like nothing to me if I had been able to trust a dude's analysis when I was less experienced. I lost hundreds of dollars to get where I am now.
And to the previous poster, I am not selling anything, I am simply letting you guys know that I will no longer be giving my picks away. The option of purchasing picks has surfaced, but if you don't want it don't contact me. I think you guys are just angry because you know I'm going to continue to watch the hours of film you don't want to.
And to the previous poster, I am not selling anything, I am simply letting you guys know that I will no longer be giving my picks away. The option of purchasing picks has surfaced, but if you don't want it don't contact me. I think you guys are just angry because you know I'm going to continue to watch the hours of film you don't want to.
So you say you are not selling anything, then say that the option of purchasing picks has surfaced.
Interesting, very interesting.
And no one is angry ... but i will ask you the same question that everyone should ask every tout ... IF YOUR PICKS ARE SO GOOD, JUST BET THEM YOURSELF, no need to bring others into it.
bigreds daddy
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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:
And to the previous poster, I am not selling anything, I am simply letting you guys know that I will no longer be giving my picks away. The option of purchasing picks has surfaced, but if you don't want it don't contact me. I think you guys are just angry because you know I'm going to continue to watch the hours of film you don't want to.
So you say you are not selling anything, then say that the option of purchasing picks has surfaced.
Interesting, very interesting.
And no one is angry ... but i will ask you the same question that everyone should ask every tout ... IF YOUR PICKS ARE SO GOOD, JUST BET THEM YOURSELF, no need to bring others into it.
Do you not realize that the Covers experts charge more than $300 a month?
Do you realize what the overhead for running a website is? I've already spent $300 for the domain name and the website alone. That means I would have to sell 60 picks just to make up the cost of starting the web site. And since I give away free picks on the back of any loss, I will likely have to sell more like 80-100 picks to hit that.
What if I wanted to incorporate a message board?
That is going to cost more.
Instead of thinking "hey man, this guy is trying to start a website that might be cool", you're taking the stance of "you're going to charge for picks" and treat me like a televangelist. If I were in this for money I would charge a heck of a lot more than $5 a pick.
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Do you not realize that the Covers experts charge more than $300 a month?
Do you realize what the overhead for running a website is? I've already spent $300 for the domain name and the website alone. That means I would have to sell 60 picks just to make up the cost of starting the web site. And since I give away free picks on the back of any loss, I will likely have to sell more like 80-100 picks to hit that.
What if I wanted to incorporate a message board?
That is going to cost more.
Instead of thinking "hey man, this guy is trying to start a website that might be cool", you're taking the stance of "you're going to charge for picks" and treat me like a televangelist. If I were in this for money I would charge a heck of a lot more than $5 a pick.
But it's pretty obvious that the market for good picks is weak right now. You guys think my picks aren't sustainable. So, I'll put the website on hold.
Until then, if you want to discuss the games PM me and I'll tell you everything I know. Obviously that won't apply to disrespectful people, but hopefully you guys who know whats up won't shun me for no good reason. I can't publicly post this stuff anymore and if you want to see what I'm picking and why you have to talk to me personally.
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But it's pretty obvious that the market for good picks is weak right now. You guys think my picks aren't sustainable. So, I'll put the website on hold.
Until then, if you want to discuss the games PM me and I'll tell you everything I know. Obviously that won't apply to disrespectful people, but hopefully you guys who know whats up won't shun me for no good reason. I can't publicly post this stuff anymore and if you want to see what I'm picking and why you have to talk to me personally.
But it's pretty obvious that the market for good picks is weak right now. You guys think my picks aren't sustainable. So, I'll put the website on hold.
Until then, if you want to discuss the games PM me and I'll tell you everything I know. Obviously that won't apply to disrespectful people, but hopefully you guys who know whats up won't shun me for no good reason. I can't publicly post this stuff anymore and if you want to see what I'm picking and why you have to talk to me personally.
Do you really think you're the 1st person ever to appear on this site with "secret info"?
If you want to discuss betting on NFL games then this is the forum to be in. But if you just want your ego stroked then good luck with that.
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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:
But it's pretty obvious that the market for good picks is weak right now. You guys think my picks aren't sustainable. So, I'll put the website on hold.
Until then, if you want to discuss the games PM me and I'll tell you everything I know. Obviously that won't apply to disrespectful people, but hopefully you guys who know whats up won't shun me for no good reason. I can't publicly post this stuff anymore and if you want to see what I'm picking and why you have to talk to me personally.
Do you really think you're the 1st person ever to appear on this site with "secret info"?
If you want to discuss betting on NFL games then this is the forum to be in. But if you just want your ego stroked then good luck with that.
Maybe you guys are right though.. I thought my model was reasonable, I'll have to rethink it.
After all, there are no guarantees. I may be 6-1 on this thread but what if you bought my Rams pick?
I also want to find a way to make my site prosper. Maybe charging for picks, even $5, is the wrong way. I'll keep thinking.
Have your site up and running with something like this :
FREE PICKS all (NFL) season long
( If ) half way thru the season you can maintain 60% + ...then you can put up: PAYPAL " DONATION " button . Ask your follower for helping to run your site.
Just a suggestion .
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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:
Maybe you guys are right though.. I thought my model was reasonable, I'll have to rethink it.
After all, there are no guarantees. I may be 6-1 on this thread but what if you bought my Rams pick?
I also want to find a way to make my site prosper. Maybe charging for picks, even $5, is the wrong way. I'll keep thinking.
Have your site up and running with something like this :
FREE PICKS all (NFL) season long
( If ) half way thru the season you can maintain 60% + ...then you can put up: PAYPAL " DONATION " button . Ask your follower for helping to run your site.
I never said anything about secret info, in fact I explicitly said that everything I post is from film study, which is available to anyone with $100 to spare for an NFL GamePass subscription.
Thanks for the suggestion Second2numbers, for now the information is free, but you have to prove to me you're a person I just emailed a huge writeup to a spambot. A little embarrassing.
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I never said anything about secret info, in fact I explicitly said that everything I post is from film study, which is available to anyone with $100 to spare for an NFL GamePass subscription.
Thanks for the suggestion Second2numbers, for now the information is free, but you have to prove to me you're a person I just emailed a huge writeup to a spambot. A little embarrassing.
Do you not realize that the Covers experts charge more than $300 a month?
Do you realize what the overhead for running a website is? I've already spent $300 for the domain name and the website alone. That means I would have to sell 60 picks just to make up the cost of starting the web site. And since I give away free picks on the back of any loss, I will likely have to sell more like 80-100 picks to hit that.
What if I wanted to incorporate a message board?
That is going to cost more.
Instead of thinking "hey man, this guy is trying to start a website that might be cool", you're taking the stance of "you're going to charge for picks" and treat me like a televangelist. If I were in this for money I would charge a heck of a lot more than $5 a pick.
you are not confidence on your picks that why you whining about 3 bills.if you so good there is no reason for you not be able to make a few hundred dollar
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Quote Originally Posted by porcelainfist:
Do you not realize that the Covers experts charge more than $300 a month?
Do you realize what the overhead for running a website is? I've already spent $300 for the domain name and the website alone. That means I would have to sell 60 picks just to make up the cost of starting the web site. And since I give away free picks on the back of any loss, I will likely have to sell more like 80-100 picks to hit that.
What if I wanted to incorporate a message board?
That is going to cost more.
Instead of thinking "hey man, this guy is trying to start a website that might be cool", you're taking the stance of "you're going to charge for picks" and treat me like a televangelist. If I were in this for money I would charge a heck of a lot more than $5 a pick.
you are not confidence on your picks that why you whining about 3 bills.if you so good there is no reason for you not be able to make a few hundred dollar
I was 3-0 today on posted picks, if you would like to know what I am posting tomorrow, my picks are currently free if you email me at porcelainfist@gmail.com
I did not post the picks here, but I did refer 50 people from this site already and I'm sure they will validate my plays. Thanks guys, keep on keepin.
10-1 on posted plays Porcelain Fist
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I was 3-0 today on posted picks, if you would like to know what I am posting tomorrow, my picks are currently free if you email me at porcelainfist@gmail.com
I did not post the picks here, but I did refer 50 people from this site already and I'm sure they will validate my plays. Thanks guys, keep on keepin.
Lol cu-cu thank you. People are going to think I have a double account or something. 4 plays up for tonight, email me and I'll share them. Can't possibly get 4-0 tonight but I've given a ton of effort on the study, each writeup is 1,000 words.
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Lol cu-cu thank you. People are going to think I have a double account or something. 4 plays up for tonight, email me and I'll share them. Can't possibly get 4-0 tonight but I've given a ton of effort on the study, each writeup is 1,000 words.
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