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    mike1502
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:03 PM ET #501

    These are my gleanings from the G.S.E. thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the G.S.E. Strategy is simply a 6 game chase with up to 4 chases going on at any one time. A chase series is characterized by the letters A thru F. An example, let us say JeffTheHat announces that Oakland is tomorrow's play in a new chase. That would be an OAK (A) play. You would then find a book or a local bookie and bet your hard earned LIFE'S SAVINGS on Oakland. If it's the dog, you play the +1.5 Run line If it's the Favorite, then you play the Money line If you don't understand the difference, you are a complete moron for being here, you need to google MLB betting 101 and read up on baseball wagering basics. Once you understand those basics then you can then rejoin this thread and possibly pass as a Sharpie depending of course on how rude you can be and whether or not you can spell.


    Ok, moving on, let us say also OAK lost the series (A) play and you lost that bet. I highly recommend after losing your life's saving after this (A) play that you DO NOT announce this in the forum. First of all, everyone on this thread is obligated in calling you the f..king loser that you are. Unfortunately, too, no one is going to want to be your friend because you are a “f...king loser”. These are things to consider Obviously you don't want to be a “f..king loser”. You want to be a winner, right? There's still hope for you, but remember you could eventually lose all 6 Oakland games (A, B, C, D, E, and F) in which case at this stage in your betting career you would be a “total f...king loser.”

    Next you have to come up with a “bankroll” and a betting strategy. Hopefully your mommy will bankroll you behind in time for the next OAKLAND play which could conceivably be the second game of a double header! (I just learned that.) It could happen, and in your case could impose a funding issue on the OAK (B) play. You must be prepared for it (remember you just bet every f...king dime you had on that (A) play and LOST). In this event, you may wish to alert your mommy about the possibility of securing an advancement on your weekly allowance ensuring she understands it will be on her shoulders that you're such a loser (and not a winner) because of this minor funding issue.


    Think of all this as just a minor setback in your career, a learning experience if you will, and now just water under the bridge. Furthermore some betters would overreact over such an event knowing it was a sure bet, realizing too late that there was a very very small chance of losing anything according to Hat's numbers, and that your local bookie will most likely NOT entertain your request for a refund unless of course you maintain the lethal fire power of a seal team. I suspect you are unaware of this, so I completely understand how one would, justifiably, feel so ripped off as well as feel compelled to make rash statements regarding this experience on the G.S.E. thread. Don't go there. Trust me.


    Let's move on again, the next Oakland play will be OAK (B) and it will be announced beforehand by the Hat. Do you remember how to bet the dog and fav? Good, just like betting the OAK (A) play as I understand. If you happen to win this upcoming Oakland (B) series, then the chase is over for Oakland and the Hat will be inventing a new chase using a new team (like Colorado) for all us Sharpies. In fact Hat will be announcing other plays, too, on up to 4 different team chases. This is a cash cow. You can not lose.


    Now that you know exactly how this strategy plays just get yourself a bankroll somewhere. Secondly, find yourself a good betting strategy. There's plenty right here in the thread. And lastly, just follow the dots that Mr. Hat lays out. It's called the G.S.E. 6 game chase. Up to 4 teams MAY be tracked at a time. There MAY be a play everyday, but not necessarily. Furthermore, if you have a question about System 1 or System 2, or Rotation, that's on the other thread. This is the G.S.E. thread.


    As a note and warning, you probably noticed after reading the last 20 pages of this thread that there are a number of “betting purist” who have taken it upon themselves to warn us of the vile and evil nature of JeffTheHat's systems and betting strategies. Apparently these folks have devoted their lives trying to convince the members of Jeff's satanic desires, his lust for power, his need for control, his greed, and his ambition to takeover the world and then the universe. Apparently, we are told, Jeff has issues. These purest hold themselves highly as the models of sports handicapping. I suspect many were once themselves “f..king losers” and possibly “total f...king losers” and are now trying to redeem themselves. Their systems were rejected by those that followed them, they bore no fruit, they were unprofitable and are now friendless. They are unable to carry a thread of their own, are jealous of the Hat, and want to take down “the tall poppy” through hijacks, disruptions, and personal attacks. These are haters. Sadly they continue to drink the same koolaid that waylaid them in their miserable careers, and they feel compelled to “save us”. Seek shelter from them.

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    These are my gleanings from the G.S.E. thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the G.S.E. Strategy is simply a 6 game chase with up to 4 chases going on at any one time. A chase series is characterized by the letters A thru F. An example, let us say JeffTheHat announces that Oakland is tomorrow's play in a new chase. That would be an OAK (A) play. You would then find a book or a local bookie and bet your hard earned LIFE'S SAVINGS on Oakland. If it's the dog, you play the +1.5 Run line If it's the Favorite, then you play the Money line If you don't understand the difference, you are a complete moron for being here, you need to google MLB betting 101 and read up on baseball wagering basics. Once you understand those basics then you can then rejoin this thread and possibly pass as a Sharpie depending of course on how rude you can be and whether or not you can spell.


    Ok, moving on, let us say also OAK lost the series (A) play and you lost that bet. I highly recommend after losing your life's saving after this (A) play that you DO NOT announce this in the forum. First of all, everyone on this thread is obligated in calling you the f..king loser that you are. Unfortunately, too, no one is going to want to be your friend because you are a “f...king loser”. These are things to consider Obviously you don't want to be a “f..king loser”. You want to be a winner, right? There's still hope for you, but remember you could eventually lose all 6 Oakland games (A, B, C, D, E, and F) in which case at this stage in your betting career you would be a “total f...king loser.”

    Next you have to come up with a “bankroll” and a betting strategy. Hopefully your mommy will bankroll you behind in time for the next OAKLAND play which could conceivably be the second game of a double header! (I just learned that.) It could happen, and in your case could impose a funding issue on the OAK (B) play. You must be prepared for it (remember you just bet every f...king dime you had on that (A) play and LOST). In this event, you may wish to alert your mommy about the possibility of securing an advancement on your weekly allowance ensuring she understands it will be on her shoulders that you're such a loser (and not a winner) because of this minor funding issue.


    Think of all this as just a minor setback in your career, a learning experience if you will, and now just water under the bridge. Furthermore some betters would overreact over such an event knowing it was a sure bet, realizing too late that there was a very very small chance of losing anything according to Hat's numbers, and that your local bookie will most likely NOT entertain your request for a refund unless of course you maintain the lethal fire power of a seal team. I suspect you are unaware of this, so I completely understand how one would, justifiably, feel so ripped off as well as feel compelled to make rash statements regarding this experience on the G.S.E. thread. Don't go there. Trust me.


    Let's move on again, the next Oakland play will be OAK (B) and it will be announced beforehand by the Hat. Do you remember how to bet the dog and fav? Good, just like betting the OAK (A) play as I understand. If you happen to win this upcoming Oakland (B) series, then the chase is over for Oakland and the Hat will be inventing a new chase using a new team (like Colorado) for all us Sharpies. In fact Hat will be announcing other plays, too, on up to 4 different team chases. This is a cash cow. You can not lose.


    Now that you know exactly how this strategy plays just get yourself a bankroll somewhere. Secondly, find yourself a good betting strategy. There's plenty right here in the thread. And lastly, just follow the dots that Mr. Hat lays out. It's called the G.S.E. 6 game chase. Up to 4 teams MAY be tracked at a time. There MAY be a play everyday, but not necessarily. Furthermore, if you have a question about System 1 or System 2, or Rotation, that's on the other thread. This is the G.S.E. thread.


    As a note and warning, you probably noticed after reading the last 20 pages of this thread that there are a number of “betting purist” who have taken it upon themselves to warn us of the vile and evil nature of JeffTheHat's systems and betting strategies. Apparently these folks have devoted their lives trying to convince the members of Jeff's satanic desires, his lust for power, his need for control, his greed, and his ambition to takeover the world and then the universe. Apparently, we are told, Jeff has issues. These purest hold themselves highly as the models of sports handicapping. I suspect many were once themselves “f..king losers” and possibly “total f...king losers” and are now trying to redeem themselves. Their systems were rejected by those that followed them, they bore no fruit, they were unprofitable and are now friendless. They are unable to carry a thread of their own, are jealous of the Hat, and want to take down “the tall poppy” through hijacks, disruptions, and personal attacks. These are haters. Sadly they continue to drink the same koolaid that waylaid them in their miserable careers, and they feel compelled to “save us”. Seek shelter from them.

     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:04 PM ET #502

    Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:

    Here is one more example to try to help those that just can't grasp it.

    You people keep stating that you would never pay $3750 to win $100.  Neither would any chase bettors.  If you want to stand by that statement, then you must use this statement for flat bettors in the same example:  The flat bettor would be betting $1,500 TO LOSE $3,500.  See how ridiculous that statement is.  You can't have it both ways.  If you are going to talk about the NET result after 4 games for chase bettors, then you have to do the same for flat bettors.  If you still can't see the difference, please refrain from wagering of any kind.


    It's retarded, now that I look at it. Assuming that all 4 games are a loss and your initial bet was 150.00, you would have to add the previous losses +150.00.

    Game A = 150.00
    Game B = 150.00 (A) + 150.00
    Game C = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00
    Game D = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00 (C) + 150.00

    In the end you would have lost 1500.00. The point I was trying to make was by the time you get to Game D your laying 450.00 to win 150.00 assuming that same flat bet.

    I don't care what anyone says. Any chase based on a line is flawed, as a matter of fact any bet based on a line will cause you to go broke.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:

    Here is one more example to try to help those that just can't grasp it.

    You people keep stating that you would never pay $3750 to win $100.  Neither would any chase bettors.  If you want to stand by that statement, then you must use this statement for flat bettors in the same example:  The flat bettor would be betting $1,500 TO LOSE $3,500.  See how ridiculous that statement is.  You can't have it both ways.  If you are going to talk about the NET result after 4 games for chase bettors, then you have to do the same for flat bettors.  If you still can't see the difference, please refrain from wagering of any kind.


    It's retarded, now that I look at it. Assuming that all 4 games are a loss and your initial bet was 150.00, you would have to add the previous losses +150.00.

    Game A = 150.00
    Game B = 150.00 (A) + 150.00
    Game C = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00
    Game D = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00 (C) + 150.00

    In the end you would have lost 1500.00. The point I was trying to make was by the time you get to Game D your laying 450.00 to win 150.00 assuming that same flat bet.

    I don't care what anyone says. Any chase based on a line is flawed, as a matter of fact any bet based on a line will cause you to go broke.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:25 PM ET #503

    Miami and cards today hat ?
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    Miami and cards today hat ?
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:36 PM ET #504

    Quote Originally Posted by irage:



    It's retarded, now that I look at it. Assuming that all 4 games are a loss and your initial bet was 150.00, you would have to add the previous losses +150.00.

    Game A = 150.00
    Game B = 150.00 (A) + 150.00
    Game C = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00
    Game D = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00 (C) + 150.00

    In the end you would have lost 1500.00. The point I was trying to make was by the time you get to Game D your laying 450.00 to win 150.00 assuming that same flat bet.

    I don't care what anyone says. Any chase based on a line is flawed, as a matter of fact any bet based on a line will cause you to go broke.

    While we appreciate your opinions that couldn't be farther from the truth. I do remember you being a big fan of the RPI system no one went broke. 

    GL with how you play 
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    Quote Originally Posted by irage:



    It's retarded, now that I look at it. Assuming that all 4 games are a loss and your initial bet was 150.00, you would have to add the previous losses +150.00.

    Game A = 150.00
    Game B = 150.00 (A) + 150.00
    Game C = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00
    Game D = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00 (C) + 150.00

    In the end you would have lost 1500.00. The point I was trying to make was by the time you get to Game D your laying 450.00 to win 150.00 assuming that same flat bet.

    I don't care what anyone says. Any chase based on a line is flawed, as a matter of fact any bet based on a line will cause you to go broke.

    While we appreciate your opinions that couldn't be farther from the truth. I do remember you being a big fan of the RPI system no one went broke. 

    GL with how you play 
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:38 PM ET #505

    Quote Originally Posted by oilcountry99:

    I suggested this in post #148.  JEFFTHEHAT obviously likes to build the largest thread of irrelevant posts as possible.  An overhyped system such as this deserves better organization IMO.  It's become a joke since day 1.  Win or lose.  
    All we heard about all summer was this GSE.  I'm suprised this is how he choses to run and document it.  Unless he isn't confident enough that it will succeed.

    Lmfao, I'm not building it. It's clowns like yourself with this irrelevant post. I'm quite confident in it. 
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    Quote Originally Posted by oilcountry99:

    I suggested this in post #148.  JEFFTHEHAT obviously likes to build the largest thread of irrelevant posts as possible.  An overhyped system such as this deserves better organization IMO.  It's become a joke since day 1.  Win or lose.  
    All we heard about all summer was this GSE.  I'm suprised this is how he choses to run and document it.  Unless he isn't confident enough that it will succeed.

    Lmfao, I'm not building it. It's clowns like yourself with this irrelevant post. I'm quite confident in it. 
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:40 PM ET #506

    Quote Originally Posted by mike1502:

    These are my gleanings from the G.S.E. thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the G.S.E. Strategy is simply a 6 game chase with up to 4 chases going on at any one time. A chase series is characterized by the letters A thru F. An example, let us say JeffTheHat announces that Oakland is tomorrow's play in a new chase. That would be an OAK (A) play. You would then find a book or a local bookie and bet your hard earned LIFE'S SAVINGS on Oakland. If it's the dog, you play the +1.5 Run line If it's the Favorite, then you play the Money line If you don't understand the difference, you are a complete moron for being here, you need to google MLB betting 101 and read up on baseball wagering basics. Once you understand those basics then you can then rejoin this thread and possibly pass as a Sharpie depending of course on how rude you can be and whether or not you can spell.


    Ok, moving on, let us say also OAK lost the series (A) play and you lost that bet. I highly recommend after losing your life's saving after this (A) play that you DO NOT announce this in the forum. First of all, everyone on this thread is obligated in calling you the f..king loser that you are. Unfortunately, too, no one is going to want to be your friend because you are a “f...king loser”. These are things to consider Obviously you don't want to be a “f..king loser”. You want to be a winner, right? There's still hope for you, but remember you could eventually lose all 6 Oakland games (A, B, C, D, E, and F) in which case at this stage in your betting career you would be a “total f...king loser.”

    Next you have to come up with a “bankroll” and a betting strategy. Hopefully your mommy will bankroll you behind in time for the next OAKLAND play which could conceivably be the second game of a double header! (I just learned that.) It could happen, and in your case could impose a funding issue on the OAK (B) play. You must be prepared for it (remember you just bet every f...king dime you had on that (A) play and LOST). In this event, you may wish to alert your mommy about the possibility of securing an advancement on your weekly allowance ensuring she understands it will be on her shoulders that you're such a loser (and not a winner) because of this minor funding issue.


    Think of all this as just a minor setback in your career, a learning experience if you will, and now just water under the bridge. Furthermore some betters would overreact over such an event knowing it was a sure bet, realizing too late that there was a very very small chance of losing anything according to Hat's numbers, and that your local bookie will most likely NOT entertain your request for a refund unless of course you maintain the lethal fire power of a seal team. I suspect you are unaware of this, so I completely understand how one would, justifiably, feel so ripped off as well as feel compelled to make rash statements regarding this experience on the G.S.E. thread. Don't go there. Trust me.


    Let's move on again, the next Oakland play will be OAK (B) and it will be announced beforehand by the Hat. Do you remember how to bet the dog and fav? Good, just like betting the OAK (A) play as I understand. If you happen to win this upcoming Oakland (B) series, then the chase is over for Oakland and the Hat will be inventing a new chase using a new team (like Colorado) for all us Sharpies. In fact Hat will be announcing other plays, too, on up to 4 different team chases. This is a cash cow. You can not lose.


    Now that you know exactly how this strategy plays just get yourself a bankroll somewhere. Secondly, find yourself a good betting strategy. There's plenty right here in the thread. And lastly, just follow the dots that Mr. Hat lays out. It's called the G.S.E. 6 game chase. Up to 4 teams MAY be tracked at a time. There MAY be a play everyday, but not necessarily. Furthermore, if you have a question about System 1 or System 2, or Rotation, that's on the other thread. This is the G.S.E. thread.


    As a note and warning, you probably noticed after reading the last 20 pages of this thread that there are a number of “betting purist” who have taken it upon themselves to warn us of the vile and evil nature of JeffTheHat's systems and betting strategies. Apparently these folks have devoted their lives trying to convince the members of Jeff's satanic desires, his lust for power, his need for control, his greed, and his ambition to takeover the world and then the universe. Apparently, we are told, Jeff has issues. These purest hold themselves highly as the models of sports handicapping. I suspect many were once themselves “f..king losers” and possibly “total f...king losers” and are now trying to redeem themselves. Their systems were rejected by those that followed them, they bore no fruit, they were unprofitable and are now friendless. They are unable to carry a thread of their own, are jealous of the Hat, and want to take down “the tall poppy” through hijacks, disruptions, and personal attacks. These are haters. Sadly they continue to drink the same koolaid that waylaid them in their miserable careers, and they feel compelled to “save us”. Seek shelter from them.


    Quite long winded and full of useless info but, cool story bro! 
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    Quote Originally Posted by mike1502:

    These are my gleanings from the G.S.E. thread. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the G.S.E. Strategy is simply a 6 game chase with up to 4 chases going on at any one time. A chase series is characterized by the letters A thru F. An example, let us say JeffTheHat announces that Oakland is tomorrow's play in a new chase. That would be an OAK (A) play. You would then find a book or a local bookie and bet your hard earned LIFE'S SAVINGS on Oakland. If it's the dog, you play the +1.5 Run line If it's the Favorite, then you play the Money line If you don't understand the difference, you are a complete moron for being here, you need to google MLB betting 101 and read up on baseball wagering basics. Once you understand those basics then you can then rejoin this thread and possibly pass as a Sharpie depending of course on how rude you can be and whether or not you can spell.


    Ok, moving on, let us say also OAK lost the series (A) play and you lost that bet. I highly recommend after losing your life's saving after this (A) play that you DO NOT announce this in the forum. First of all, everyone on this thread is obligated in calling you the f..king loser that you are. Unfortunately, too, no one is going to want to be your friend because you are a “f...king loser”. These are things to consider Obviously you don't want to be a “f..king loser”. You want to be a winner, right? There's still hope for you, but remember you could eventually lose all 6 Oakland games (A, B, C, D, E, and F) in which case at this stage in your betting career you would be a “total f...king loser.”

    Next you have to come up with a “bankroll” and a betting strategy. Hopefully your mommy will bankroll you behind in time for the next OAKLAND play which could conceivably be the second game of a double header! (I just learned that.) It could happen, and in your case could impose a funding issue on the OAK (B) play. You must be prepared for it (remember you just bet every f...king dime you had on that (A) play and LOST). In this event, you may wish to alert your mommy about the possibility of securing an advancement on your weekly allowance ensuring she understands it will be on her shoulders that you're such a loser (and not a winner) because of this minor funding issue.


    Think of all this as just a minor setback in your career, a learning experience if you will, and now just water under the bridge. Furthermore some betters would overreact over such an event knowing it was a sure bet, realizing too late that there was a very very small chance of losing anything according to Hat's numbers, and that your local bookie will most likely NOT entertain your request for a refund unless of course you maintain the lethal fire power of a seal team. I suspect you are unaware of this, so I completely understand how one would, justifiably, feel so ripped off as well as feel compelled to make rash statements regarding this experience on the G.S.E. thread. Don't go there. Trust me.


    Let's move on again, the next Oakland play will be OAK (B) and it will be announced beforehand by the Hat. Do you remember how to bet the dog and fav? Good, just like betting the OAK (A) play as I understand. If you happen to win this upcoming Oakland (B) series, then the chase is over for Oakland and the Hat will be inventing a new chase using a new team (like Colorado) for all us Sharpies. In fact Hat will be announcing other plays, too, on up to 4 different team chases. This is a cash cow. You can not lose.


    Now that you know exactly how this strategy plays just get yourself a bankroll somewhere. Secondly, find yourself a good betting strategy. There's plenty right here in the thread. And lastly, just follow the dots that Mr. Hat lays out. It's called the G.S.E. 6 game chase. Up to 4 teams MAY be tracked at a time. There MAY be a play everyday, but not necessarily. Furthermore, if you have a question about System 1 or System 2, or Rotation, that's on the other thread. This is the G.S.E. thread.


    As a note and warning, you probably noticed after reading the last 20 pages of this thread that there are a number of “betting purist” who have taken it upon themselves to warn us of the vile and evil nature of JeffTheHat's systems and betting strategies. Apparently these folks have devoted their lives trying to convince the members of Jeff's satanic desires, his lust for power, his need for control, his greed, and his ambition to takeover the world and then the universe. Apparently, we are told, Jeff has issues. These purest hold themselves highly as the models of sports handicapping. I suspect many were once themselves “f..king losers” and possibly “total f...king losers” and are now trying to redeem themselves. Their systems were rejected by those that followed them, they bore no fruit, they were unprofitable and are now friendless. They are unable to carry a thread of their own, are jealous of the Hat, and want to take down “the tall poppy” through hijacks, disruptions, and personal attacks. These are haters. Sadly they continue to drink the same koolaid that waylaid them in their miserable careers, and they feel compelled to “save us”. Seek shelter from them.


    Quite long winded and full of useless info but, cool story bro! 
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:41 PM ET #507

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Ok guys today we won with:

    BAL (A)
    COL +1.5 (A)
    ATL (A)

    Season record 7-0

    A) 4
    B) 0
    C) 3


    Tomorrow we have:

    St.L (B)
    MIA (B)




    are this your play for today saturday???
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:

    Ok guys today we won with:

    BAL (A)
    COL +1.5 (A)
    ATL (A)

    Season record 7-0

    A) 4
    B) 0
    C) 3


    Tomorrow we have:

    St.L (B)
    MIA (B)




    are this your play for today saturday???
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:45 PM ET #508

    LOL  Whew,that was a lot to read. I'll never get those 2 minutes back again
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    LOL  Whew,that was a lot to read. I'll never get those 2 minutes back again
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:46 PM ET #509

    The bottom part where it says tomorrows plays? Posted on the 9th.  Ummm yes those are them. 
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    The bottom part where it says tomorrows plays? Posted on the 9th.  Ummm yes those are them. 
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:46 PM ET #510

    Good luck as always, Jeff. It's fun to watch you win and to watch people criticize you lol.
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    Good luck as always, Jeff. It's fun to watch you win and to watch people criticize you lol.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 6:49 PM ET #511

    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

    Good luck as always, Jeff. It's fun to watch you win and to watch people criticize you lol.

    Yeh, jealously does strange things to people.Like when they respond to this saying they're not jealous.
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    Quote Originally Posted by casheasy:

    Good luck as always, Jeff. It's fun to watch you win and to watch people criticize you lol.

    Yeh, jealously does strange things to people.Like when they respond to this saying they're not jealous.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 7:04 PM ET #512

    darn....i took everything you got on board...so they only play is miami and st.louis...i fucked up big time,,,..i guess if i lose they got what i win yesterday and +22.33 ....what a darn up day....can you please be clear and if no play..don't post as a....please...im getting confused...too many ppl here with less opinion but got so much to say....
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    darn....i took everything you got on board...so they only play is miami and st.louis...i fucked up big time,,,..i guess if i lose they got what i win yesterday and +22.33 ....what a darn up day....can you please be clear and if no play..don't post as a....please...im getting confused...too many ppl here with less opinion but got so much to say....
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 7:25 PM ET #513

    Was today's main play giants?
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    Was today's main play giants?
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by truck7:

    Was today's main play giants?

    Wrong thread
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    Quote Originally Posted by truck7:

    Was today's main play giants?

    Wrong thread
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 9:47 PM ET #515

    Quote Originally Posted by irage:



    It's retarded, now that I look at it. Assuming that all 4 games are a loss and your initial bet was 150.00, you would have to add the previous losses +150.00.

    Game A = 150.00
    Game B = 150.00 (A) + 150.00
    Game C = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00
    Game D = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00 (C) + 150.00

    In the end you would have lost 1500.00. The point I was trying to make was by the time you get to Game D your laying 450.00 to win 150.00 assuming that same flat bet.

    I don't care what anyone says. Any chase based on a line is flawed, as a matter of fact any bet based on a line will cause you to go broke.

    Here are the breakdowns for each type bettor:

    CHASE BETTOR

    Bankroll:  $40,000
    Unit Size:  $100
    Based on an average of -150, here is the following progression:

    A Bet:  Bet $150 to win $100.  If it loses (down -$150), then
    B Bet:  Bet $375 to win $250.  If it loses (down -$525), then
    C Bet:  Bet 937.50 to win $625.  If it loses (down -$1462.50), then
    D Bet:  Bet $2343.75 to win $$1562.50.  If it loses, then total loss of -$3,806.25


    FLAT BETTOR

    Bankroll:  $40,000
    Unit Size:  $1000
    Based on an average of -150, here is the following progression:

    1st Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$150), then
    2nd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$525), then
    3rd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$1462.50), then
    4th Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses, then total loss of -$6,000

    If both scenarios lose 4 in a row here are the following results:

    Chase Bettor:  Lost $3,806.50
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $6,000.00

    If each wins their 4th game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $3500

    If each wins their 3rd game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $2000

    If each wins their 2nd game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $500

    If each wins their 1st game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Win $1000


    So, the only scenario above that has the flat bettor making more money than the chase bettor is when both win their first game.  Otherwise, the chase bettor will be ahead every other time.  Most flat bettors will be LUCKY to win 55% of their flat bets, while I do not play any chases that do not win at least 98% of their chases (I actually do EXPECT losses in every system I play, but manage my money accordingly to stay ahead.  Last year, I had a system that lost 2 chases early, so I abandoned it.  I abandon any system that falls behind 40 units (in completed chase) for the remainder of the season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by irage:



    It's retarded, now that I look at it. Assuming that all 4 games are a loss and your initial bet was 150.00, you would have to add the previous losses +150.00.

    Game A = 150.00
    Game B = 150.00 (A) + 150.00
    Game C = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00
    Game D = 150.00 (A) + 150.00 (B) + 150.00 (C) + 150.00

    In the end you would have lost 1500.00. The point I was trying to make was by the time you get to Game D your laying 450.00 to win 150.00 assuming that same flat bet.

    I don't care what anyone says. Any chase based on a line is flawed, as a matter of fact any bet based on a line will cause you to go broke.

    Here are the breakdowns for each type bettor:

    CHASE BETTOR

    Bankroll:  $40,000
    Unit Size:  $100
    Based on an average of -150, here is the following progression:

    A Bet:  Bet $150 to win $100.  If it loses (down -$150), then
    B Bet:  Bet $375 to win $250.  If it loses (down -$525), then
    C Bet:  Bet 937.50 to win $625.  If it loses (down -$1462.50), then
    D Bet:  Bet $2343.75 to win $$1562.50.  If it loses, then total loss of -$3,806.25


    FLAT BETTOR

    Bankroll:  $40,000
    Unit Size:  $1000
    Based on an average of -150, here is the following progression:

    1st Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$150), then
    2nd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$525), then
    3rd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$1462.50), then
    4th Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses, then total loss of -$6,000

    If both scenarios lose 4 in a row here are the following results:

    Chase Bettor:  Lost $3,806.50
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $6,000.00

    If each wins their 4th game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $3500

    If each wins their 3rd game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $2000

    If each wins their 2nd game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Lost $500

    If each wins their 1st game, here are the results:

    Chase Bettor:  Win $100
    Flat Bettor:  Win $1000


    So, the only scenario above that has the flat bettor making more money than the chase bettor is when both win their first game.  Otherwise, the chase bettor will be ahead every other time.  Most flat bettors will be LUCKY to win 55% of their flat bets, while I do not play any chases that do not win at least 98% of their chases (I actually do EXPECT losses in every system I play, but manage my money accordingly to stay ahead.  Last year, I had a system that lost 2 chases early, so I abandoned it.  I abandon any system that falls behind 40 units (in completed chase) for the remainder of the season.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 9:49 PM ET #516

    Here is a correction to the Flat bettor scenario:

    FLAT BETTOR

    Bankroll:  $40,000
    Unit Size:  $1000
    Based on an average of -150, here is the following progression:

    1st Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$1500), then
    2nd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$3000), then
    3rd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$4500), then
    4th Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses, then total loss of -$6,000
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    Here is a correction to the Flat bettor scenario:

    FLAT BETTOR

    Bankroll:  $40,000
    Unit Size:  $1000
    Based on an average of -150, here is the following progression:

    1st Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$1500), then
    2nd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$3000), then
    3rd Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses (down -$4500), then
    4th Bet:  Bet $1500 to win $1000.  If it loses, then total loss of -$6,000
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 10:15 PM ET #517

    MIKE1502,congratulations!!!!!..in an absolute ocean of covers stupidity you are undoubtedly,unquestionably the undisputed king of all dunces

    with one single post youve set back the progressive evolution of the human brain at least 500 years
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    MIKE1502,congratulations!!!!!..in an absolute ocean of covers stupidity you are undoubtedly,unquestionably the undisputed king of all dunces

    with one single post youve set back the progressive evolution of the human brain at least 500 years
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 10:22 PM ET #518

    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Quite long winded and full of useless info but, cool story bro! 

    Maybe I read his post wrong Jeff, but I think he is grilling the haters and supporting your system(s).  Read his last paragraph about the "betting purists" trying to save us from your systems.  I read it as him supporting your systems.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JEFFTHEHAT:


    Quite long winded and full of useless info but, cool story bro! 

    Maybe I read his post wrong Jeff, but I think he is grilling the haters and supporting your system(s).  Read his last paragraph about the "betting purists" trying to save us from your systems.  I read it as him supporting your systems.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 10:24 PM ET #519

    Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:


    Maybe I read his post wrong Jeff, but I think he is grilling the haters and supporting your system(s).  Read his last paragraph about the "betting purists" trying to save us from your systems.  I read it as him supporting your systems.

    I think he is knocking the idiot that said he lost $3000 on the first two plays.
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    Quote Originally Posted by flwareagle:


    Maybe I read his post wrong Jeff, but I think he is grilling the haters and supporting your system(s).  Read his last paragraph about the "betting purists" trying to save us from your systems.  I read it as him supporting your systems.

    I think he is knocking the idiot that said he lost $3000 on the first two plays.
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 10:40 PM ET #520

    This thread is for the hats plays! No more rubbish! Or he will leave 
    just because of the crap posted! Just nonsense. Let him post the plays
    and everyone shut up! Lol 
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    This thread is for the hats plays! No more rubbish! Or he will leave 
    just because of the crap posted! Just nonsense. Let him post the plays
    and everyone shut up! Lol 
     
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    Posted: May. 10, 2014 - 11:12 PM ET #521

    Man this thread is so fuccked up beyond belief (not the OP's system/s, just all the mumble jumble by posters in here). Good fuckin grief!
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    Man this thread is so fuccked up beyond belief (not the OP's system/s, just all the mumble jumble by posters in here). Good fuckin grief!
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2014 - 12:27 AM ET #522

    ACHTUNG!!  : Sundays C plays!  here we go columbo, C/D  time baby....im on  ST Louis/ Miami.   gd luck
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    ACHTUNG!!  : Sundays C plays!  here we go columbo, C/D  time baby....im on  ST Louis/ Miami.   gd luck
     
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    if u hurry now, as i have, u can get, st louis @     -101, and ,   Miami @  Even$
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    if u hurry now, as i have, u can get, st louis @     -101, and ,   Miami @  Even$
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2014 - 12:35 AM ET #524

    Anyone ever talks about flat betting, the "c" and "d" bets are the only bets that shows an edge.  Flat bet these only not A thru D.

    Yes chase time begins for me "c" and "d"


    Great system Jeff.  I wish I knew how you came up with this goldmine.


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    Anyone ever talks about flat betting, the "c" and "d" bets are the only bets that shows an edge.  Flat bet these only not A thru D.

    Yes chase time begins for me "c" and "d"


    Great system Jeff.  I wish I knew how you came up with this goldmine.


     
     
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    Posted: May. 11, 2014 - 12:37 AM ET #525

    flwareagle,no i dont think so....that moron is DEFINITELY taking a shot at jeff and his approach,no sarcasm there..read it again.the guys an imbecile
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    flwareagle,no i dont think so....that moron is DEFINITELY taking a shot at jeff and his approach,no sarcasm there..read it again.the guys an imbecile
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