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@DeezyAZ81

 You don't even see your own hypocrisy. I don't know anything about the situation? Neither do you. Like I said, i'm not defending anyone. I'm simply just not sitting in a sewing circle and making up stories. I realize you lack any real a world perspective because maybe you were raised in a microcosm of a world where everyone comes from a nuclear family. Situations like this are more common than you realize. And they grow over time. Initially it may not be quite a father/son relationship. Over time it becomes that.

As far as no one knowing about it until 2020, what you mean is the general public knew nothing about it. I'm sure people close to the situation were aware. You say the kid is college? So apparently he was in school. It's not like he was hidden away in a basement. Again, if something weird was going on, the kid can say it himself.

And you attempting to assassinate my personal character means nothing. You act like you're some crusader for protecting the youth when really you're just an ultra partisan Karen on a keyboard. I am not defending Matt Gaetz. I can't stand the guy. I just call out bull when I see it. When a person speaks to their own relationship with someone as being healthy and some Karen is on a keyboard speaking about how something he knows zero about is weird, i'm gonna call it out. If something was weird, the kid can say it himself.

Trump is a man of culture. 

The only thing that seems pretty weird is your obsession with it. Nothing is weird about a guy not declaring a kid whom he neither fathered nor legally adopted, specifically if one is in the public eye. Maybe you have never experienced anything in life except what is cookie cutter but people take in adolescents all the time who in turn become family members. Coaches take in players without fathers and become their de facto fathers. Family friends, community members, etc take in people with no where else to go. I've known of exact situations like Gaetz'. Some kid living with their sibling. Said sibling starts dating someone. Said person becomes a parent figure. None of these people in these scenarios go through the lengthy and costly process of official adoption. These situations are common. Pro sports leagues are littered with stories like this.

I get that you want ao badly to make Republican politicians monsters. Maybe it's an attempt to make yourself feel better about your own party. And Matt Gaetz may very well be a monster. I totally believe the prostitution story, and believe women could've been ubderaged. I'm glad he dropped himself from consideration. This kid is a grown man though. If something's a bit off, the kid is free to come out and say it. You getting on covers and saying you think something's a bit off means absolutely bupkes.

A lot of the 2011s are nice. Glocks made everyone fall in love with striker fires but there are still some really nice hammer fires out there. Not just the 2011s.

I'm a gun nut. From cap guns to bb guns to range days with my dad on Saturdays followed by lunch at Baker's Square. Good bonding. Sometimes my older brothers would come too but mosty it was me and pops. I've got a pretty crazy collection now.

Hopefully they've moved up from .22 caliber pistols. .223/5.56 is fine for rifles, obviously but creeps have only gotten creepier. More stopping power is never a bad thing. Almost everyone shoots 9mm these days. You don't cone across many .40 and .45 guys. You have them in your collection and but few people carry them. Even a lot of the 1911 guys are carrying 2011s in 9mm.

And when I saw the survey, I saw 33% and 29% respectively. It's definitely possible. More women are definitely getting into gun ownership. And there are a ton of pacifist democrats. I don't put too much into surveys though.

I would guess that 43% is a result of couples owning guns. There are women, I know some, both parties, who own there own guns separate of their men. Some don't even have men. Then there are those who own guns, as a couple. And when asked if they own guns will of course answer yes, because they do own guns... as a couple.

Plus it's a dang gallup poll. How many people did they they even poll?

I'm gonna have to disagree. I know plenty of democrats with guns.

@DeezyAZ81

 I can't stress enough, I am not defending Matt Gaetz. I have never liked him, and have always thought him guilty. However, i'm not going to accuse, or even allude to him having anything nefarious going on with that young man when he himself hasn't. He's an adult. He seems to be thriving. He seems grateful to have had Gaetz come into his life, based on his own words. I have to leave it at that.

@DeezyAZ81

 I've got an brother that was just a guy that played football with my biological brother. He's been considered my sibling for decades now. Considered family by all extended family. There was no adoption though. Just what kind of a disconected from the real world box do you live in? These types of things happen in the real world, if not in whatever fantasy world you must occupy.

As far as why his sister doesn't have custody now, he's an adult. As far as if she ever did have legal custody, probably not, but his mom was dead, and whatever father he had clearly wasn't fighting for him. How many deadbeat fathers are out there? And you have the audacity to say it seems weird that he isn't with his real father. As far as his naturalization status, i'm sure that given the fact that he is in college, and connected to a high profile politician, i'm sure he is here legally, whether a full citizen or not.

Like I said, I AM NOT defending Matt Gaetz. When this story originally broke, years ago, I said I could believe it simply based on him looking like a creep. However, like I said, I don't write fan fiction. There are recent pictures of them together. If you look at his X page, there is response post after response post of him defending Gaetz, and their relationship. I have to take that over the opinion of some random internet fan fiction writers.

As far as straws involving Obama or Biden, what exactly are you referring to? Hunter Biden? I initially defended Joe/Hunter Biden. Apparently I was wrong. The evidence on Hunter Biden was apparently very real, and a lot more than a trace.

Four Seasons: Total Landscaping

What are you implying? I'm no fan of Matt Gaetz. I hate his face, and I don't much care for his rhetoric. However, I don't go around writing fan fiction about total strangers based solely on disliking them.

As far as I can tell, the story with Nestor is Matt Gaetz dated his older sister. When their mom died, he left Cuba to live with his said sister, which quite frankly is some real world stuff. They formed a father/son type of bond. when he and the sister broke up, he stayed with Matt. I'm sure Matt provided the kid with a better life than the sister could. You say he's in college. Let's not act like he would be in college, in America, without Matt Gaetz.

as far a the venmo, it's shady, but i'm sure he thought he was being slick and avoiding a paper trail, given that he was an elected official. I found recent pictures of them. They still seem to have a good relationship.

I disagree.

John Kelly is a POS. You all should google the guy one day. His military service not withstanding, I would posit he has less integrity than Trump.

No we aren't.

Repeating this story a bunch of times and bumping this thread doesn't make it anymore true.

This is Texas-Rio Grande Valley's first game since leading at halftime, and falling by 3 to the Badgers as 20 point dogs. Let's see if they gain momentum from such a big near upset.

UT-Rio Grande Valley 1h -7.5 -108, 1 unit

I guess High Point is the hill i'm willing to die on.

High Point 1h -8.5 -105, 1 unit

You think you're insulting Trump. You're really just making a mockery of the holocaust. So congrats.