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Some of you on this forum are some sick fucking idiots. Van is one of the best persons on this forum and we have boneheads ragging on him cause hes having a bad year.  You idiots need to go crawl back under your rocks, you slithered out from. Cover mods, dont just box these clowns, ban them.  Van has been a fixture at this forum forever.

Van, ignore the garbage, you have lots of friends here.

Van, you are a total class act and one of the best persons on this website.  For 20+ years you have provided picks and info to all of us here, to try and help others.  To the fools who are giving you a hard time cause of 1 bad season(honestly cant remember your last one), those fools should quit gambling today because they are gonna have a lifetime of losses if they think anybody can win every year at gambling.  They are upset because your time machine that spits out winners is having an off year,lolllll.  Fuck those fools

Keep doing what your doing because you are helping more people then you know                    

You are a great guy and am glad to have you as a Friend

CD

Raging, sorry about your Mom. Hope she gets better

You should explain that to his dumb ass with baby blocks, so he can understand.  I actually thought this clown was gone for good, but hes risen from the dead.

Midnight, love your post about trump still holding fund raisers.  How fucking dumb are all these maga's.  Did you see how that scumbag turned his conversation with jill biden in france to an ad for his perfume?  This guy truly is one of the scummiest people to ever walk on this planet.  If there is a hell, he should burn there forever.    I would like a maga to show me 1 other President ever that used this title to sell watches, sneaker, perfume, guitars etc etc. All others only have done speeches and sold books. Let all these magas waste their money on his Chinese merchandise.  Make America great again.  Guy is a total fraud.

Veritas, excellent fucking post.  What you wrote is exactly what i was doing.  After 45 years of doing this shit(wish i never started) i have learned a few things and i can spot all the bullshitters.  I didnt name call at all.  I only attacked how he keeps a record.  You cant brag about hitting 61 percent, without showing units won and lost.  If i go 2-1 am hitting 66.67 percent.  If the 2 winners are for 1 unit and the loser is for 3 units. AM I WINNING MONEY?  Thats the kind of bullshit i hate seeing.

Also i have no idea how posters who make a zillion picks everyday in every sport, plus prop bets get people to follow.  You would need teams of people to cap that much stuff daily.  Its comical.

Once again great post

In fact i tell young bettors are run into, quit now while your young and just invest your money, cause your never gonna get rich from gambling, unless you happen to be one of the 3-5 percent of bettors who actually win.   I dont think theres any gamblers on the fortune 25,000 list loll.    And they dont tear down billion dollar casinos to spend many more billions on newer ones because they are losing

yeah i was surprised you escaped. Dont worry i took the punishment for all of you,lolll

Your right    Everytime i know why i get boxed, but this time i was clueless.  Been gambling for 45 years and was meant to help younger bettors know that records are important and if a poster isnt keeping records or keeping bullshit ones, thats a poster you shouldnt be following.  Guy was bragging about hitting 61 percent, but that means jack shit without knowing units.

Thanks WMI, i actually thought you were gonna be here also since they deleted your post, which makes zero sense. First time being in the box and i dont know why. Every other time i know why.  The post i wanted posted but got deleted is " I said people that keep saying they are posting plays to help people is BS. Your not helping people your just sharing your opinion, cause your picks can win or lose.  So until you know the final scores, any posters picks are just guesses. When a person goes to a soup kitchen and helps, thats helping people because there is a positive outcome.  People dont understand the true definition of helping.  Huge difference and i see it all over the internet. Give me the final score then you can call it helping.

What did you do to get in the box?

I questioned a cappers record keeping and i get sent to the box.  I always understand why i get sent to the box, when am in the politics forum but to get sent here for calling out a poster for not being honest about his record keeping, is wrong.  One of the first rules any successful gambler will tell you, is keep a record so if you know if your winning or losing.

I guess gamblers here think a guy who bets 10 units on 2 games and win them both but bets 40 units on another play that loses, is winning.  Sure the guy is hitting 60 percent, but is he winning money?  FUCK NO. 

it would be real tough to rig daily games and get all the people needed involved. Some teams play back to back.  Just not enough time to rig games. Also who is doing the rigging?  Casinos in vegas, casinos in the islands, casino in europe, the mob etc etc.  There is way too many players.  Gotta remember not every book is gonna need the same sides.  So which casino gets to rig the games?  Also games that are played daily might not know who they will need to very late in the day. People just dont realize how complicated it really would be to rig games daily. Best ways to rig games is with the refs and even then that doesnt mean they will still be successful.  Everybody needs to step back and apply some common sense to this thinking.  Its easy to say all games are rigged when the games are over.  If people think games are rigged they should be able to figure out which side the rigging is gonna be done on.

Back in the 80's i was good friends with one of the first 5 sports touts in the country. He had some connected guys in detriot, who had the pistons time clock guy in their pockets.  He would get told which days they were betting.  If they were playing the under, the time keeper would let the clock run even after play was stopped.  This would add a bunch of time to the game and give a huge edge to the unders. We didnt win every bet, but we cashed a very high percentage.  In todays world that would be next to impossible and would need way more people involved then just one time clock guy. The guy ended up getting caught, but no charges were filed.  NBA didnt want the subject out there. Also most people fail to realize how big sports is to the economy and if fixed games were a normal everyday thing, then lots of people would quit sports, thus hurting the economy.  Sure there is some funny business going on with some games, but if you hear the people here and all over the internet, every fucking play is being scripted out cause it didnt go the way of their bets lolllllllllllll. It takes a year or more to make a movie.  Do you really think the sportsbooks can pull off a movie script with all these dumnb ass athletes in a day?

Thats all i was asking.  I havent looked at your stuff all summer.  I just wanted to know if you were hitting 61 percent since 2009, but you answered it for me.  Its been since the summer.

Good luck to you and your followers

That was exactly my point of this thread.  You can win games during the season with a crappy defense, but come playoff time, you had better get your team in order.  Clearly the bills will have a tough time in the playoffs again his year.  Just my opinion from watching this team.  Today coaches had an awful game plan.  Its like they didnt watch any film of stafford

Exactly 

I think alot of you just like tom brady and thats why your saying he did a good job.  Hes awful, has no personality, no humor.  Hes like a robot. They should just use one of those automated talkers you get when you call an 800 number up like a bank, company etc etc.

and sorry but he doesnt have a good announcers voice.  All just my opinion thou

Am not kidding if you have been hitting 61 percent since 2009, that would make you one of the best gamblers of all time

you still didnt answer my question. Is that 61 percent winners since 2009?

are you like 15 years old?  read my post again.  My God people on here will find any reason to argue.  YES BUFFALO BEAT KC FINALLY, BUT AM SAYING THEY WONT BEAT THEM IN THE PLAYOFFS IF THEY MEET AGAIN.  My God, its just my opinion

Yes. Obviously you didnt read my post.  I said come playoff time when the games matter more the bills will once again lose to kc.  You cant beat kc with this bills swiss cheese defense in crunch time.  Just my opinion thou

Their swiss cheese defense couldnt even hold rams after offense cut lead to 10.  sad