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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@joe pockets It’s just that the same current crop (of course including Judge Thomas) have been increasingly uncaring of any effort to keep up appearances, especially when their own do not hold them accountable in ANY way. Yes, maybe so. But that applies to all polticians on both sides. Is this not grapefruit / raisins comparison? I feel like your toying with this issue…your better than that bro! Come-on! |
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Soros, who personally donated $170 million during the 2022 midterms to Democratic candidates and campaigns Musk nearly doubled that and he plans on taking a position of his choice in the administration ? ….Sounds like he bought that job to me ? Elon Musk isn’t just a wealthy person he is the most wealthy by a wide margin and he has gone well past just promoting ideas or trying to persuade the public of his personal views; he is literally bypassing democratic processes to directly bully legislators, He holds the power that no collection of individual citizens could ever exercise over sitting legislatures, and he is doing it to enact ‘policies’ and disrupt governance even before his political benefactor has any actual control but thankfully they will have to raise there own debt limit. |
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Dallas will be on him like flies on stink! He will be nullified! I believe it’s personal |
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You think Dallas sits on there ass?….It possibly but healthy Dallas is hand down the better team….marginally better! |
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Shit happens ! It’s part of life ….You go with your instincts! No more! |
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@joe pockets George is not in Musks league, Musk is in his own universe regarding wealth That is not the point people have with it. It is NOT who is the RICHEST; it is the fact that it is being done. BEFORE Musk was it a problem IF Soros had been the RICHEST?
To me this is the point I think it’s safe to say that for the current crop of Republicans/MAGA in power, they’re entirely in it for money and/or power. And let’s say Russia is happy to help them secure both (for favors, but more likely to just sow chaos), but certainly isn’t the only one…..Wouldn’t you love to know who has the lion share 6 billion of investment in DJT stock that he just pulled 4 billion out to put in trust with Junior in charge of it?….DJT as has never been profitable ? Why don’t the GOP investigate that? Let’s talk about Dark Money! It’s just that the same current crop (of course including Judge Thomas) have been increasingly uncaring of any effort to keep up appearances, especially when their own do not hold them accountable in ANY way. |
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@joe pockets George is not in Musks league, Musk is in his own universe regarding wealth That is not the point people have with it. It is NOT who is the RICHEST; it is the fact that it is being done. BEFORE Musk was it a problem IF Soros had been the RICHEST?
Soros is small potato’s ! He nothing but the GOP poster boy for every lost district election, Just like Hunter is the Yang for every republican Ying! JMHO I think I said this before, but, If George Soros bought a pair of old bowling shoes at Sonia Sotomayor’s garage sale, the right would be losing their collective mind. |
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Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN:
Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: General Motors had an electric car EV1 that was loved by everyone who tested it! Then took everyone of then back ? I’ll leave that to right wing conspirators here! Back in 2001 GM realized electric car manufacturing was not profitable and abandoned it. Fast forward to 2024 and Ford reports massive losses for every EV sold. Volkswagon's Audi decided to completly close an EV plant in Brussels sparking a massive union protest. Bloomberg; protestors "brandishing placards in support of Audi and calling for an end to Chinese “dumping” of industrial products". If successful it would not have been profitable for the oil industry! We can’t support the power now for electric vehicles sure as hell couldn’t support it then |
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Jets don’t want this |
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@joe pockets Quote Originally Posted by joe pockets: Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu: Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @StumpTownStu Trump is still 30 days from taking office and already the sky is falling. Talk is cheap, let's see what gets done and then complain or applaud. Exactly. All i've heard is, "He's going to target his enemies! He's going to target the press! Elon Musk is running the country! The sky is falling!!!" Let's see. The man hasn't taken office. Let's see something before making panic threads. When was the last time one person spent 250 million dollars on a Presidential election and then openly supervised his “ owned “ pigeons in the congress and senate on a spending bill? How big is $708 million a year in American politics? Well, the Democratic National Committee and the Republican National Committee combined took two years, 2017 and 2018, to raise $502 million. Or compare Soros’s $708 million to the giving done in 2018 by libertarian billionaire Charles Koch’s namesake foundation: $128 million. George Soros is the most prominent among American billionaires who have injected a record $880 million on the US midterm elections. While the majority of their donations favour the Republicans, Soros has contributed $128 million to Democrats. There is never pushback from Leftists when it is being done on their side. It has been going on on both sides for a while. It has gotten out of hand and there should be something done. I agree about that. But look at the tremendous money that came in for Biden and Harris. The overwhelming number of those richer folks want their 'agenda' followed I would imagine. There was a good idea the other day on a guy suggested it be government spending and limited for elections, etc. That way each candidate has a certain amoutnof election money to use and when it is spent, it is spent, etc. More detailed than that. But maybe something to consider, maybe. 1) The Democrats don’t have there 260 million dollar benefactor sitting in there President sky box or openly telling the elected officials they will be primary elimination if they don’t sit down shut up and vote for what he a private citizen wants!….And why ? Because his kind of money can ruin there career and Trumps pigeons will pull the trigger! You comparison of Soros & Musks muscle in politics doesn’t flush ! George is not in Musks league, Musk is in his own universe regarding wealth that was created in some degree by government subsidies and seems to have forgotten that! ….The robber barons have returned on steroids Raider 22 and you know it ! Hopefully so will Unions ! |
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Quote Originally Posted by unplucked_gem:
@StumpTownStu Yeah if true at least we'd know who's running things. Lefties are bonkers, literally an entire administration run in the shadows but they're mad about the guy who actually made electric vehicles work and went to space dumped them. General Motors had an electric car EV1 that was loved by everyone who tested it! Then took everyone of then back ? I’ll leave that to right wing conspirators here! |
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Quote Originally Posted by UNIMAN: @StumpTownStu Trump is still 30 days from taking office and already the sky is falling. Talk is cheap, let's see what gets done and then complain or applaud. Exactly. All i've heard is, "He's going to target his enemies! He's going to target the press! Elon Musk is running the country! The sky is falling!!!" Let's see. The man hasn't taken office. Let's see something before making panic threads. When was the last time one person spent 250 million dollars on a Presidential election and then openly supervised his “ owned “ pigeons in the congress and senate on a spending bill? |
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Quote Originally Posted by StumpTownStu:
Another hyperbolic thread started by someone on the left. @joe pockets What specifically are you referring to by, "What Musk is doing by letting it all hang out in the open."? What apecific action has you worried? Musk gave million's to Trump’s campaign (no doubt in exchange for for tax cuts for billionaires) and has threatened elected Republicans. Musk can afford to be so brazen because no Republican political figure is going to speak against him, and even if he were violating FEC regulations Musk regularly thumbs his nose at regulatory agencies (even going so far as to engage in a campaign of vengeful persecution against individual lawyers even after they have left federal service) and gets his way, at most paying a comparatively tiny fine to get away with rule breaking. This is, of course, the way that autocrats and their boosters subvert democratic societies in a perfectly ‘legitimate’ way to take over absolute political control. That an odious, deceitful, petty, mercurial, thin-skinned, shithead person like Elon Musk can engage in this and not only get away with it but still be fêted by his legions of fawning voteries absolutely convinced of his self-professed genius (he is not) and boosted by the President-Elect as his “Best Buddy” and given control over an as-yet non-existent executive agency for which he has already been formulating nonsensical and ill-informed policy, and very few people in the media are either willing or sufficiently uneducated to object that this is exactly the way fascist regimes take power is as alarming as anything Trump himself has said or done. This is anti-democratic to the core. But…not illegal, which, in the minds of some people, means that there is nothing to be done about openly hijacking the democratic electoral process by (legal) intimidation and bullying. Now more then ever a constitutional amendment that limits campaign financing, and addresses other corruption issues, is the only possible solution. But course, such an amendment is virtually impossible in an environment in which Elon is openly buying politicians, and so the very people we’d need to pass this are running scared of him!…….Is that better in explaining my problems with Musk living in Trumps head ? |
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@Bridge1 If the beard loses in Ohio he will be on a hot seat…But Pressure makes diamonds ! |
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There’s a saying that goes, “If you’re going to pee in the pool, at least don’t do it from the diving board”. Rich people have always influenced American politics, some of them to an alarming degree, but they’ve all made at least a nominal effort to be discreet about it. What Musk is doing by letting it all hang out in the open.I am looking at the right-wingers in power right now, and “discreet” is definitely not a word I would use. When do the people realize this may be taking it a step too far. |
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They may have been a favorite in the contest so Yes they stood a great chance a victory! They have better athletes and a better and larger coaching staff and a better legacy! |
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He wasn’t humble after 80 Td up 48-11 in the 4th against Pitt! He did everything but slap his on back! |
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+17 live what could go wrong? Over 42 has a chance! |
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That was quick! Take the 13 1/2 |
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@Bridge1 Thanx! |
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