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Id even add that this Epstein drama is Trump cover..why the inconsistencies and backtracking why the people considering quitting why the attack via Patel and many others then the complete retreat?

Politics is awful...

@soup-can

 This smells like Reagan to me and isnt the first or last of cover for a POTUS. I am sure there was plenty of cover for Biden and his mental decline, there was cover for Reagan and his mental decline, there was cover for Bush and his lack of assessment on the spot, there is cover for Trump and his obvious obesity and poor health.

The partisan attack the opposing POTUS is just in cycle for your side now and when the DEMS were in control they went after Trump and when the GOP was prior they tried to smear Obama, its all quite pathetic if you ask me.

116 after hours on big volume lets see if they fade it into the evening though.

@unplucked_gem

 You can stop with the innocent provocation, I wont take the bait. Why did you make these messages? Why are you trying to be contentious all the time? I explained the reason and gave detail because for some cause you did not understand what was written before your message. The other members laid out exactly the situation and instead of fighting with the other member they let us take care of the problem. Sundance has a problem interacting with many members here and was asked to avoid them and stop going into threads like such. That is all there is here and I consider you intelligent you know exactly what happened and why yet you take every opportunity to take shots at me when actions are taken.

Instead of these grandstanding waste of time diatribes just stay out of other members business and I wont ask too many times for you to stop trying to provoke and stalk, there is a limit to what we will put up with and you are pretty close to that limit here.

Try making good contributions, avoiding bad situations and if you cannot do that I suggest you not post in this forum if you are so offended.

@unplucked_gem

 Quit trying to provoke and I do not have to reply, quit making personal insults to me about word totals and I do not have to reply. Why did you even make the comment in the first place? 

@unplucked_gem

 I will make it the most simple and precise as possible since you cannot understand framework and context it seems.

When anyone in any area of this site has repeated issues bothering, antagonizing, stalking etc and has been asked to not do such things then the member continues to do such things then the guidelines state that we can either suspend the member or ban. This is how the site functions and how we handle problem/difficult members.

Say out in the mains if a member goes into other threads which are not their own and make bashing comments, burning money, heckling or pestering other members the course of action is if we see it the member is placed in the penalty box and then if it continues they might be banned. In this forum sundance has a very very long history of doing this exact thing and the post he made served no purpose for the place he made it and given that he has been asked to not engage with that set of members, what exactly do you expect would happen? 

Take off your beer goggles for a minute and understand the concept, I know this is many words for you to have to read but when a member is given instructions its a good idea to follow them.

If the purpose for comments is to be combative and complain it is better not to make the comment. Sundance was warned many times to stop with combative partisan comments, over and over and over so when you are warned and repeat the same then what would be expected?

The entire reason we have the report option is for this exact scenario, if a member is breaking the rules then report it and we can decide what happens next.

So are we now pausing the defund on the awful federal agencies and liberal agenda organizations like FEMA and weather alerts since Texas was impacted? Interesting how narratives unravel when reality strikes and the idiotic thesis of states doing everything implodes.

Good thing Texas didnt turn into their own country and separate from the crappy USA, whew that was a close call there.

@UNIMAN

 Here is something to consider, the deficits you listed were including a much higher interest cost than Trump had to deal with since he had the cheapest ZIRP in history, Biden waded through some of the largest rate increases in twenty years plus. Interesting how Biden did not threaten Powell or insult him, demean him and attack him rather treated him with respect even if the decisions the FED made were difficult on interest costs AND economic growth.

@thirdperson

 Yeah this is the aspect people do not even spend 5 seconds considering. In reality the GOP voter who would check the box for whatever dolt is trotted out slurps up the nonsense that Trump spews and does not even consider the truth or lack of to most all he says. 

You cannot frack with low oil prices to any impact on supply so the big drillers who have the lower cost base like Exxon etc can frack and the DO frack but that is already factored into their production numbers, the marginal players cannot afford to frack say under 75-80 per. 

Anyone with even 2 braincells knows that we ARE drilling and under Biden the production levels were at an ATH but the little brain dolts who listen to Trump say drill baby drill WANT to follow the fat pied piper even when it is 100% lies and has no basis in reality.

Trump also said he would lower oil and gas prices so which is it are we drilling via marginal fracking or are we having cheap gas, it cant be both.

It is mind boggling how so many people believe ANY word that comes out of the mouth of Trump, not like Trump really cares if his word are lies, he got the votes he wanted and whatever means necessary didnt matter.

@unplucked_gem

 The menu consists of two selections and only two.

The first is a military pork shoulder with all the trimmings, the second is a taco bell quality pork taco which is light on all the condiments and is a budget rate fare.

I will take the taco bell selection myself..I feel like a schlub porking out to billion dollar defense contractors and would rather spend my debt to serve the lower class having come from that in my younger years.

@Crusher13

 Read the fine print on the no tax for tips, the phase out is pretty low most servers make more than this and will end up paying taxes anyway. I was a server in college and the min wage was not enough to cover SS and FED taxes, this gift is not going to save all that much when you consider that 20k phaseout means how much in federal? 3k? Ok so who is going to cover that 3k, I guess I am unaware that this belching bill is being paid for by some unknown source since the government is now going to run a massive larger deficit/debt because of this and the much worse military calves being sacrificed to the GOP electorate.

@sundance

 You guys better start supporting the foster/adoption industry and give a good Christian home to all these kids that the mother cannot raise or does not want to raise. The easy part is taking away rights and freedoms as a MALE towards a FEMALE, the hard part is actually raising a child to support your ultra conservative agenda.

The foster/adoption system is a trainwreck so now these kids will be placed in homes where often people take in multiple fosters to make money and few get adopted then they have no family and are tossed into the ward of the state system to fend for themselves.

Nothing positive about this situation and you will never stop the abortion practice you just put the mother at risk and flood the system with all the unwanted births.

Military pork is delicious with a side of yukon gold potatoes and fresh spinach.

If you call another member a bot again I will box you for a very long time. This happened before and you are doing it again, consider this a very reasonable holiday gesture that I dont just box or ban for this nonsense.

Hate is your term I am using your logic to make sure you follow it for your partisan takes in the same way he does for his. IF you want to credit Trump for something or put down the other side for something then dont be obtuse and flip flop on your terms and measures of analysis.

My side is keeping the rules and not making member to member attacks and insults. You FAIL in this respect so if you see me responding it is due to you and some of your cohorts abuses of the rules and petty member to member insults and attacks.

@BigGame90

 Well when you have to throw out insults to make a point I guess I will make a counter point using your same logic but no insults..

Given this jaded logic you cannot credit Trump with any easing of inflation until his inflation numbers are under that to which he left office, just using this absurd partisan approach you made here.

So if you want to blame Biden for inflation (hilarious) and criticize a member for his generalization then please do the same with regards to your political party and any generalizations or praise observations. Trump has a LONG LONG ways to go to claim victory on inflation especially given your analysis.

I think Paul Ingrassia is a Trump white supremist love child.

@Midnight1

 Unfortunately stuff like that is just pork posturing and that is why the senate took 500 hours to debate this mess it is so all of the players get to put in their pork slop so they get their back scratched in order to pass this abomination. It isnt like Biden didnt do the same thing and that both parties are guilty because everyone is bought and paid for if you give them their slice of the pie then they will play ball.

About the only person in politics that might be considered true to the office is that bizarro Paul child who also has his pet projects and is paid for but not as quickly and easily as most of these politicians.

@UNIMAN

 More money would be in your pocket if the party who claims to be fiscally responsible WERE fiscally responsible. Giving freebies via more debt is not putting money in your pocket its akin to taking out a cash advance on your 22% credit card, you WILL pay for whatever you are thinking you are getting and that will be by higher inflation, less benefits and less services when you need them.

I find it ironic that people at a certain age do not understand the concept of future need that you think if you get something NOW that there is no future consequence, ask any retired individual if their purchasing power declines as they age and the answer is yes. You MIGHT get a nickel in your pocket to put in the slot machine but you will pay with hundred dollar bills and then some when the crap hits the fan for YOU and for everyone.

Short sided economics is what is crushing the future of Americans...give me a nickel now and I will pay you back 100 bucks later, yeah smart thinking.

@THEMUGG

 If you want to condemn a partisan party then yours has to be clean and the GOP/TNC/Project2025 crew is wrecking things faster than Biden did.

I loved the way Trump sent a written note scolding the Fed chair and his response was if Trump had not done his stupid tariffs then they would have lowered rates.

Trump has no idea what is going on, he cannot even answer a question or form a coherent discussion, he is a drunk uncle at the wedding just there for the attention and the booze.