Thursday Tidbits: Not a good spot for Fordham. They just beat Georgia Tech and Harvard at home, now they go to the road where they've had some horrific performances. Not only the letdown, but they're going into one of the fastest teams in the country in Umass. Fordham loves playing fast, the problem is that it's only worked against the teams that don't like to play fast. They're coming off two ballgames they won where the possession count was around five possessions less than what they're use to and they're taking a terrible road offense into Umass and they're going to have to score to keep up. What's really odd is that while both teams love to run and this is two of the fastest squads in the country, the total currently lies at 139. Not only all of that, but Fordham welcomes in Xavier at home for the next game. Umass hasn't played a game below 70 possessions since November, and based on the two teams' styles this one probably hits at minimum 75 possessions. That's an insanely low total for that many possessions, so it sort of tells a bit of a story (Good chance Fordham falls flat on their face). Cleveland State and UIC should be an extremely boring game to watch. UIC is coming off a homestand where they upset Detroit then laid an egg against Wright State in a physical tough overtime battle. Now they hit the road where they've been bad, like really bad. cleveland State's defense really defends teams well that don't have a go to scorer, and UIC doesn't have one of those, unless you call hoisting three's a go-to option. Cleveland State's coming off an embarassing home loss to Youngstown State, so there's a good chance they bounce back really well defensively here. Speaking off, prior to that Youngstown State game they just lost, they had lost two other games on the year. The game immediately after those losses, they slowed the pace dramatically and only gave up 45 in each game. See a trend? UL Monroe has a nice little revenge spot, but they also have a lookahead. I was sort of surprised they were favored away from the Cajundome, but it is what it is I guess. Denver scored 35 points at Arkansas State last year. That came a couple weeks after they beat Arkansas State by 30 at home. Sixty point swing? Yup, only with Denver. Georgia Southern's offense is actually pretty decent if it doesn't throw it to the other team, as it's their biggest problem. They've played an extremely tough defensive and snail schedule, so they'll enjoy getting up and down with Elon. Pace in this game should be pretty high. Elon's defense doesn't force turnovers...at all (mirror of Delaware). So this game should feature some points.
GL
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Thursday Tidbits: Not a good spot for Fordham. They just beat Georgia Tech and Harvard at home, now they go to the road where they've had some horrific performances. Not only the letdown, but they're going into one of the fastest teams in the country in Umass. Fordham loves playing fast, the problem is that it's only worked against the teams that don't like to play fast. They're coming off two ballgames they won where the possession count was around five possessions less than what they're use to and they're taking a terrible road offense into Umass and they're going to have to score to keep up. What's really odd is that while both teams love to run and this is two of the fastest squads in the country, the total currently lies at 139. Not only all of that, but Fordham welcomes in Xavier at home for the next game. Umass hasn't played a game below 70 possessions since November, and based on the two teams' styles this one probably hits at minimum 75 possessions. That's an insanely low total for that many possessions, so it sort of tells a bit of a story (Good chance Fordham falls flat on their face). Cleveland State and UIC should be an extremely boring game to watch. UIC is coming off a homestand where they upset Detroit then laid an egg against Wright State in a physical tough overtime battle. Now they hit the road where they've been bad, like really bad. cleveland State's defense really defends teams well that don't have a go to scorer, and UIC doesn't have one of those, unless you call hoisting three's a go-to option. Cleveland State's coming off an embarassing home loss to Youngstown State, so there's a good chance they bounce back really well defensively here. Speaking off, prior to that Youngstown State game they just lost, they had lost two other games on the year. The game immediately after those losses, they slowed the pace dramatically and only gave up 45 in each game. See a trend? UL Monroe has a nice little revenge spot, but they also have a lookahead. I was sort of surprised they were favored away from the Cajundome, but it is what it is I guess. Denver scored 35 points at Arkansas State last year. That came a couple weeks after they beat Arkansas State by 30 at home. Sixty point swing? Yup, only with Denver. Georgia Southern's offense is actually pretty decent if it doesn't throw it to the other team, as it's their biggest problem. They've played an extremely tough defensive and snail schedule, so they'll enjoy getting up and down with Elon. Pace in this game should be pretty high. Elon's defense doesn't force turnovers...at all (mirror of Delaware). So this game should feature some points.
Neil can you please give me your take on Arizona/UCLA game ?? I like UCLA but would like your input on this game before I pull the trigger.
Thanks in advance ..
Yah, I would probably lean UCLA. Howland's really good at defending the guards usually, but he hasn't shown that yet. They have a nice advantage on the inside, so if this one is played at a slow pace (which it should be), they'll have a bigger chance for the win. Scary thing is how UCLA defends the three-point shot. I pointed this out earlier in the year as it sort of being their biggest struggle, and they've yet to correct it. Sort of a scary proposition going against Zona.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by PoRToRoKPuRo:
Neil can you please give me your take on Arizona/UCLA game ?? I like UCLA but would like your input on this game before I pull the trigger.
Thanks in advance ..
Yah, I would probably lean UCLA. Howland's really good at defending the guards usually, but he hasn't shown that yet. They have a nice advantage on the inside, so if this one is played at a slow pace (which it should be), they'll have a bigger chance for the win. Scary thing is how UCLA defends the three-point shot. I pointed this out earlier in the year as it sort of being their biggest struggle, and they've yet to correct it. Sort of a scary proposition going against Zona.
one team crappy away...the other crappy all over...good luck Neil...I see this as a toss up after looking at it...gl my man and keep the streak going...
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one team crappy away...the other crappy all over...good luck Neil...I see this as a toss up after looking at it...gl my man and keep the streak going...
Good morning Neil, I would like your thoughts on Stanford vs Oregon and Washington at Colorado.
I am surprised no one is on the over 143 on Cal vs Oregon State since OSU loves to go up and down and Cal's games vs Mizzouri and UNLV have been high scoring.
Thanks.
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Good morning Neil, I would like your thoughts on Stanford vs Oregon and Washington at Colorado.
I am surprised no one is on the over 143 on Cal vs Oregon State since OSU loves to go up and down and Cal's games vs Mizzouri and UNLV have been high scoring.
NROPP, what u think about the Indiana/Michigan match up?(is Indiana the best team in the nation, nobody cares about/wants to admit)?
Eh - Indiana's had the luxury of playing their biggest games at home. I probably give them the advantage here, but they haven't really had much experience playing snails or a slow tempo, so they might struggle with it.
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Quote Originally Posted by FR3SH-like-UgHH:
NROPP, what u think about the Indiana/Michigan match up?(is Indiana the best team in the nation, nobody cares about/wants to admit)?
Eh - Indiana's had the luxury of playing their biggest games at home. I probably give them the advantage here, but they haven't really had much experience playing snails or a slow tempo, so they might struggle with it.
Good morning Neil, I would like your thoughts on Stanford vs Oregon and Washington at Colorado.
I am surprised no one is on the over 143 on Cal vs Oregon State since OSU loves to go up and down and Cal's games vs Mizzouri and UNLV have been high scoring.
Thanks.
Stanford/Oregon two teams I can't trust. Value is on Stanford probably, but can't trust them on the road. Also see value on Oregon at home, but they aren't the most consistent bunch, and they face the toughest defense so far this year here (next closest was Virginia where they scored 54).
I think Cal and OSU has the chance to be a bit up and down, but you have two good defenses, and a Cal team that's been a polar opposite on the road/home the last year or so, including this year.
GL
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Quote Originally Posted by sportsanalyst:
Good morning Neil, I would like your thoughts on Stanford vs Oregon and Washington at Colorado.
I am surprised no one is on the over 143 on Cal vs Oregon State since OSU loves to go up and down and Cal's games vs Mizzouri and UNLV have been high scoring.
Thanks.
Stanford/Oregon two teams I can't trust. Value is on Stanford probably, but can't trust them on the road. Also see value on Oregon at home, but they aren't the most consistent bunch, and they face the toughest defense so far this year here (next closest was Virginia where they scored 54).
I think Cal and OSU has the chance to be a bit up and down, but you have two good defenses, and a Cal team that's been a polar opposite on the road/home the last year or so, including this year.
Any thoughts on Western Illinois @ Oakland--maybe a scenario where Clark neutralizes Hamilton and WIU keeps it close in a "lower" possession game. I know that WIU is a different beast on the road, but a combination of their style, Oaklands defensive struggles, and decent road showings already at Michigan and IUPUI earlier this year...thought there might be some bark in this dog tonight
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Any thoughts on Western Illinois @ Oakland--maybe a scenario where Clark neutralizes Hamilton and WIU keeps it close in a "lower" possession game. I know that WIU is a different beast on the road, but a combination of their style, Oaklands defensive struggles, and decent road showings already at Michigan and IUPUI earlier this year...thought there might be some bark in this dog tonight
Any thoughts on Western Illinois @ Oakland--maybe a scenario where Clark neutralizes Hamilton and WIU keeps it close in a "lower" possession game. I know that WIU is a different beast on the road, but a combination of their style, Oaklands defensive struggles, and decent road showings already at Michigan and IUPUI earlier this year...thought there might be some bark in this dog tonight
Yah, I thought about it for a while. Think more value lies in the under as Oakland's offense has brutally bad lately. Just played the top 3 teams in the conference, and I view this as a sandwich game. Hamilton would rather go off against Young (IUPUI), than do anything in this snail of a game. Wouldn't shock me to see that Saturday game lined at 165+, LOL.
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Quote Originally Posted by riccio14:
Any thoughts on Western Illinois @ Oakland--maybe a scenario where Clark neutralizes Hamilton and WIU keeps it close in a "lower" possession game. I know that WIU is a different beast on the road, but a combination of their style, Oaklands defensive struggles, and decent road showings already at Michigan and IUPUI earlier this year...thought there might be some bark in this dog tonight
Yah, I thought about it for a while. Think more value lies in the under as Oakland's offense has brutally bad lately. Just played the top 3 teams in the conference, and I view this as a sandwich game. Hamilton would rather go off against Young (IUPUI), than do anything in this snail of a game. Wouldn't shock me to see that Saturday game lined at 165+, LOL.
Nropp, any thoughts on South Florida tonight getting 8 against Villanova? Nova just had a decent game against Marquette on 1/1 but their only wins so far this season have come against the following teams:
Penn, Boston U, and American U, UC Riverside, Delaware, LaSalle, and Monmouth-NJ
Meanwhile, South Florida just beat rutgers and went down to the wire with uconn (60-57) and Southern Miss (53-51).
Looks like a decent spot to take the 8 points on the road.
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Nropp, any thoughts on South Florida tonight getting 8 against Villanova? Nova just had a decent game against Marquette on 1/1 but their only wins so far this season have come against the following teams:
Penn, Boston U, and American U, UC Riverside, Delaware, LaSalle, and Monmouth-NJ
Meanwhile, South Florida just beat rutgers and went down to the wire with uconn (60-57) and Southern Miss (53-51).
Looks like a decent spot to take the 8 points on the road.
Yah, I would probably lean UCLA. Howland's really good at defending the guards usually, but he hasn't shown that yet. They have a nice advantage on the inside, so if this one is played at a slow pace (which it should be), they'll have a bigger chance for the win. Scary thing is how UCLA defends the three-point shot. I pointed this out earlier in the year as it sort of being their biggest struggle, and they've yet to correct it. Sort of a scary proposition going against Zona.
GL
Nropp...
Good insight... Actually the biggest issue UCLa has had all year is they just don't have athleticism/quickness which is needed to defend the perimeter when playing man to man defense... i think Howland has realized that he really only has 2 decent defenders on the perimeter in Lamb and Powell and that UCLA's length is better in a zone defense... howland is very stubborn in his ways, hates playing zone def but has realized that playing man will result in losses... not to mention playing man defense really creates foul issues with josh smith pluggin or hedging on screens... So in the past few weeks ucla has played zone for most of its games... i will add that Howland is a preparation nut and probably does it better that 99% of the coaches in the country... So in conference when games are thurs/sat, you'll find that ucla has much better success in their thursdays games vs sat games... Granted during the final four stretch UCLA was so loaded it didn't really matter, but now that the talent is nowhere near what it's been, you'll find ucla playing better on thurs games...
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Quote Originally Posted by nropp11:
Yah, I would probably lean UCLA. Howland's really good at defending the guards usually, but he hasn't shown that yet. They have a nice advantage on the inside, so if this one is played at a slow pace (which it should be), they'll have a bigger chance for the win. Scary thing is how UCLA defends the three-point shot. I pointed this out earlier in the year as it sort of being their biggest struggle, and they've yet to correct it. Sort of a scary proposition going against Zona.
GL
Nropp...
Good insight... Actually the biggest issue UCLa has had all year is they just don't have athleticism/quickness which is needed to defend the perimeter when playing man to man defense... i think Howland has realized that he really only has 2 decent defenders on the perimeter in Lamb and Powell and that UCLA's length is better in a zone defense... howland is very stubborn in his ways, hates playing zone def but has realized that playing man will result in losses... not to mention playing man defense really creates foul issues with josh smith pluggin or hedging on screens... So in the past few weeks ucla has played zone for most of its games... i will add that Howland is a preparation nut and probably does it better that 99% of the coaches in the country... So in conference when games are thurs/sat, you'll find that ucla has much better success in their thursdays games vs sat games... Granted during the final four stretch UCLA was so loaded it didn't really matter, but now that the talent is nowhere near what it's been, you'll find ucla playing better on thurs games...
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