You have no fuckin clue what you are talking about! Not only can you not find another book on the planet with a better vig, you can also use Matchbook to hedge in game and create arbitrage scenarios you never could in any Vegas casino. You guys are so in love with Vegas! Vegas fuckin sucks when it comes to value.I don't just bet CBB either. I bet every sport under the sun and am profitable at each of them.
I provide my analysis on the NCO-MS game and instead of focusing on that, you clowns choose to question whether I make a living at sports gambling. Also, show me where I said Princeton was a lock???Never said that and never would say any one pick was a lock unless I had the Colts playing the Browns at home on the ML in the first game of the season!!
Priceless !!!!!!!!!!!!! Hahahaha
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Quote Originally Posted by MathMan0411:
You have no fuckin clue what you are talking about! Not only can you not find another book on the planet with a better vig, you can also use Matchbook to hedge in game and create arbitrage scenarios you never could in any Vegas casino. You guys are so in love with Vegas! Vegas fuckin sucks when it comes to value.I don't just bet CBB either. I bet every sport under the sun and am profitable at each of them.
I provide my analysis on the NCO-MS game and instead of focusing on that, you clowns choose to question whether I make a living at sports gambling. Also, show me where I said Princeton was a lock???Never said that and never would say any one pick was a lock unless I had the Colts playing the Browns at home on the ML in the first game of the season!!
Math, i wish the best of luck to ya and hopefully you can win some folks over tonight with N. Colorado and get on a roll. The guys in Vegas who make these lines and move them are the best in the world and "move" them for a reason. Not to say they are perfect and can't be outsmarted, but these guys definately are better that me, you, and anyone one else on the forum. Whether its to even things out or to "trap" bettors, its for a reason. Again these guys make a good living at making the lines for a reason. Good luck bud and stop taking everything so personal, you are getting all worked up for no reason.
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Math, i wish the best of luck to ya and hopefully you can win some folks over tonight with N. Colorado and get on a roll. The guys in Vegas who make these lines and move them are the best in the world and "move" them for a reason. Not to say they are perfect and can't be outsmarted, but these guys definately are better that me, you, and anyone one else on the forum. Whether its to even things out or to "trap" bettors, its for a reason. Again these guys make a good living at making the lines for a reason. Good luck bud and stop taking everything so personal, you are getting all worked up for no reason.
Doesn't matter to me if spread moves since I am locked in at +1. If the spread moves due to injury, suspensions, etc, then the line move means something to me. It indicates that the original conditions of my bet have changed and I need to consider getting off the bet.
If nothing surrounding the game itself has changed and only the line has moved, I stay with my bet. In this case, the line has moved from +1 to -1 indicating heavy action on N. Colo and the books need to balance action, period.
I provided a detailed writeup of why I like NCO which is far more than what 99% of covers members do. Most just post a pick and walk away. I prefer not to share how I cap a game, but wanted you guys to see that I am not throwing darts and real thought goes into my selections.
Anyway, I am done posting after today because I simply don't have the time to go back and forth all day. I have lost an hour already debating you on my approach. I need to go through every game which takes me hours to do. This is my living and while I am not wealthy from it by any stretch, it pays the bills.
Good luck to all of you going forward!
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Doesn't matter to me if spread moves since I am locked in at +1. If the spread moves due to injury, suspensions, etc, then the line move means something to me. It indicates that the original conditions of my bet have changed and I need to consider getting off the bet.
If nothing surrounding the game itself has changed and only the line has moved, I stay with my bet. In this case, the line has moved from +1 to -1 indicating heavy action on N. Colo and the books need to balance action, period.
I provided a detailed writeup of why I like NCO which is far more than what 99% of covers members do. Most just post a pick and walk away. I prefer not to share how I cap a game, but wanted you guys to see that I am not throwing darts and real thought goes into my selections.
Anyway, I am done posting after today because I simply don't have the time to go back and forth all day. I have lost an hour already debating you on my approach. I need to go through every game which takes me hours to do. This is my living and while I am not wealthy from it by any stretch, it pays the bills.
Like I said MM, I hope you hit tonight. Hopefully when you have some more free time we can go back and forth on capping approach again because I know I have lots to learn from people who know more than I do and have been doing this successfully for longer than I have.
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Like I said MM, I hope you hit tonight. Hopefully when you have some more free time we can go back and forth on capping approach again because I know I have lots to learn from people who know more than I do and have been doing this successfully for longer than I have.
Like I said MM, I hope you hit tonight. Hopefully when you have some more free time we can go back and forth on capping approach again because I know I have lots to learn from people who know more than I do and have been doing this successfully for longer than I have.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. I am not saying that line movement is irrelevant, but it doesn't play a major role in my approach. I am more like a scout who is looking for weaknesses in a team that can be exploited. My focus is more on those statistics that I know from years of research influence the outcome of the game and by how much.
I offered a ton of reasons why I like NCO tonight and pointed out my concerns with the pick as well. Not one person has offered any insight into the actual game like I have done. Instead they choose to focus on me or factors outside of the actual game. Line movement will never be mentioned in the locker rooms of either team tonight. I am focused solely on whether or not I believe NCO will cover +1 and NCO is only concerned with covering 0.
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
Like I said MM, I hope you hit tonight. Hopefully when you have some more free time we can go back and forth on capping approach again because I know I have lots to learn from people who know more than I do and have been doing this successfully for longer than I have.
There is more than one way to skin a cat. I am not saying that line movement is irrelevant, but it doesn't play a major role in my approach. I am more like a scout who is looking for weaknesses in a team that can be exploited. My focus is more on those statistics that I know from years of research influence the outcome of the game and by how much.
I offered a ton of reasons why I like NCO tonight and pointed out my concerns with the pick as well. Not one person has offered any insight into the actual game like I have done. Instead they choose to focus on me or factors outside of the actual game. Line movement will never be mentioned in the locker rooms of either team tonight. I am focused solely on whether or not I believe NCO will cover +1 and NCO is only concerned with covering 0.
Mathman, Bro, props to you for posting your potential results, BEFORE, you even posted your picks. To me, that is someone who has confidence in their plays, and does a lot of homeowrk and handicapping to back it up.
I have been to many sites like these and people are all the same. They come here clinging to their last dollar, hoping that someone will bail them out of the hole they have dug for themselves. Someone new like you comes in, with confidence, and some of these guys slam down cash, they no longer even have, on a game that happens to go down. Then they take their frustration out on the guy who they tailed. Nevermind the fact that they have blown through ungodly amounts of cash prior to placing that last bet.
If you look carefully, 75% of the people who posts picks on these boards, do not ever post their record, YTD. Because if they were to do so, we all would see that their record is below 55% for the year, making them a loser (in the gambling sense only, dont want to offend).
Hopefully, you will come in and do well, therefore giving all of us another solid capper to tail. Best of luck dude, hopefully you will win them all, and we all will benefit. I'm on N.Colorado tonite. I find it so funny how people talk about line movements, or traps, or whatever it is that makes them bash a play. If they are right 2 out of 5 times, then they feel justified to make those comments. But, again, they are losing 60% of the time. I like the system you use, as you explained it, and I am going to follow it.
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Mathman, Bro, props to you for posting your potential results, BEFORE, you even posted your picks. To me, that is someone who has confidence in their plays, and does a lot of homeowrk and handicapping to back it up.
I have been to many sites like these and people are all the same. They come here clinging to their last dollar, hoping that someone will bail them out of the hole they have dug for themselves. Someone new like you comes in, with confidence, and some of these guys slam down cash, they no longer even have, on a game that happens to go down. Then they take their frustration out on the guy who they tailed. Nevermind the fact that they have blown through ungodly amounts of cash prior to placing that last bet.
If you look carefully, 75% of the people who posts picks on these boards, do not ever post their record, YTD. Because if they were to do so, we all would see that their record is below 55% for the year, making them a loser (in the gambling sense only, dont want to offend).
Hopefully, you will come in and do well, therefore giving all of us another solid capper to tail. Best of luck dude, hopefully you will win them all, and we all will benefit. I'm on N.Colorado tonite. I find it so funny how people talk about line movements, or traps, or whatever it is that makes them bash a play. If they are right 2 out of 5 times, then they feel justified to make those comments. But, again, they are losing 60% of the time. I like the system you use, as you explained it, and I am going to follow it.
Again, the line movement cannot be more important than the players involved in the game. We are betting on the game, correct? I am trying to predict what will happen on the actual basketball court, not whether or not I am being trapped by Vegas.
Where is the analysis around the actual game? How do you look at just the line movement and bet? How can that be more important than the situation angles, game location, players, stats, tempo, style of play, and coaching?
Not one of you has offered any insight into the actual game. Again, if you and I were discussing this PARTICULAR game where the spread is not a factor, who would you say WINS (no line) and WHY????
I CAN CARE LESS ABOUT LINE MOVEMENT EITHER.
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Quote Originally Posted by MathMan0411:
Again, the line movement cannot be more important than the players involved in the game. We are betting on the game, correct? I am trying to predict what will happen on the actual basketball court, not whether or not I am being trapped by Vegas.
Where is the analysis around the actual game? How do you look at just the line movement and bet? How can that be more important than the situation angles, game location, players, stats, tempo, style of play, and coaching?
Not one of you has offered any insight into the actual game. Again, if you and I were discussing this PARTICULAR game where the spread is not a factor, who would you say WINS (no line) and WHY????
simply put, come in, give analysis, say its a strong play by you....your red carpet entrance and tout-lined prophecy was lame, now you get some slack for it and you start goin tyson on the forum if you want respect, its not the way to go about it...with that said, gl on your plays and i believe you probably have alot of good to say and share with us, thx in advance
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simply put, come in, give analysis, say its a strong play by you....your red carpet entrance and tout-lined prophecy was lame, now you get some slack for it and you start goin tyson on the forum if you want respect, its not the way to go about it...with that said, gl on your plays and i believe you probably have alot of good to say and share with us, thx in advance
Here is the thread you stupid lying motherfucker!! Show anywhere in there where I said it was a lock or will in. I said I am a winner and one fuckin pick doesn't make you a winner or loser. Where do I say Princeton is a lock, where you dumb ass bitch??
Here is the thread you stupid lying motherfucker!! Show anywhere in there where I said it was a lock or will in. I said I am a winner and one fuckin pick doesn't make you a winner or loser. Where do I say Princeton is a lock, where you dumb ass bitch??
I apologize for getting so angry, but when people lie it is very upsetting to me. I never said Princeton or any pick was a lock. There are no locks which is why I never bet more than 2% of my BR on any play. I challenge anyone here to find a thread where I called a play a lock. I only have 2 plays and neither was called a lock. Go find it....you can't.
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I apologize for getting so angry, but when people lie it is very upsetting to me. I never said Princeton or any pick was a lock. There are no locks which is why I never bet more than 2% of my BR on any play. I challenge anyone here to find a thread where I called a play a lock. I only have 2 plays and neither was called a lock. Go find it....you can't.
If you guys evaluate a capper on a handful of picks, you are making a terrible mistake. I said give me 1 month and see what happens. That isn't really enough time, but I know how impatient you guys are.
I could very well lose tonight. I lose 44% of all plays I make on any spread for the last 8 years so why would anyone think I couldn't lose tonight. But I will not lose over time.
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If you guys evaluate a capper on a handful of picks, you are making a terrible mistake. I said give me 1 month and see what happens. That isn't really enough time, but I know how impatient you guys are.
I could very well lose tonight. I lose 44% of all plays I make on any spread for the last 8 years so why would anyone think I couldn't lose tonight. But I will not lose over time.
Anyway, I am done posting after today because I simply don't have the time to go back and forth all day. I have lost an hour already debating you on my approach. I need to go through every game which takes me hours to do. This is my living and while I am not wealthy from it by any stretch, it pays the bills.
Good luck to all of you going forward!
Bro, please don't be stubborn and let this forum get to you. I would like to see 10 of your plays and I'll it takes is a simple post. Just don't respond to anything but please post your play daily. I think there are many others too who would like to see what your statistics come up with and even if you lose...I am still behind you man. 10 plays. Do it. Thanks boss.
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Anyway, I am done posting after today because I simply don't have the time to go back and forth all day. I have lost an hour already debating you on my approach. I need to go through every game which takes me hours to do. This is my living and while I am not wealthy from it by any stretch, it pays the bills.
Good luck to all of you going forward!
Bro, please don't be stubborn and let this forum get to you. I would like to see 10 of your plays and I'll it takes is a simple post. Just don't respond to anything but please post your play daily. I think there are many others too who would like to see what your statistics come up with and even if you lose...I am still behind you man. 10 plays. Do it. Thanks boss.
Here is the thread you stupid lying motherfucker!! Show anywhere in there where I said it was a lock or will in. I said I am a winner and one fuckin pick doesn't make you a winner or loser. Where do I say Princeton is a lock, where you dumb ass bitch??
Program Note: One tends to lose credibility when the come across like a loose cannon. In life, I can't say that I know of many professionals that go about their business with such hostility and hatred. People agree and disagree on picks, it's natural. Just stand your ground with insight on the selected play, rather than pick fights at the playground
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Quote Originally Posted by MathMan0411:
Here is the thread you stupid lying motherfucker!! Show anywhere in there where I said it was a lock or will in. I said I am a winner and one fuckin pick doesn't make you a winner or loser. Where do I say Princeton is a lock, where you dumb ass bitch??
Program Note: One tends to lose credibility when the come across like a loose cannon. In life, I can't say that I know of many professionals that go about their business with such hostility and hatred. People agree and disagree on picks, it's natural. Just stand your ground with insight on the selected play, rather than pick fights at the playground
Program Note: One tends to lose credibility when the come across like a loose cannon. In life, I can't say that I know of many professionals that go about their business with such hostility and hatred. People agree and disagree on picks, it's natural. Just stand your ground with insight on the selected play, rather than pick fights at the playground
The guys is calling me a liar, but offers no proof. I am not going to sit back and allow this guy to say I called something a lock when that isn't what I said, period.
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Quote Originally Posted by ForecastinFloyd:
Program Note: One tends to lose credibility when the come across like a loose cannon. In life, I can't say that I know of many professionals that go about their business with such hostility and hatred. People agree and disagree on picks, it's natural. Just stand your ground with insight on the selected play, rather than pick fights at the playground
The guys is calling me a liar, but offers no proof. I am not going to sit back and allow this guy to say I called something a lock when that isn't what I said, period.
"The guys is calling me a liar, but offers no proof. I am not going to
sit back and allow this guy to say I called something a lock when that
isn't what I said, period"
But MOM, I only hit him on the playground because he called me names! He's a big meanie!
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"The guys is calling me a liar, but offers no proof. I am not going to
sit back and allow this guy to say I called something a lock when that
isn't what I said, period"
But MOM, I only hit him on the playground because he called me names! He's a big meanie!
"The guys is calling me a liar, but offers no proof. I am not going to sit back and allow this guy to say I called something a lock when that isn't what I said, period"
But MOM, I only hit him on the playground because he called me names! He's a big meanie!
Are you serious? Someone attacks your character and calls you a liar and they are clearing not being truthful, you just sit back and say nothing?? By saying nothing, I should just confirm his assertion that I said something was a lock. You seem like a reasonable guy, please stay out of my threads. Please....
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Quote Originally Posted by kaponofor3:
"The guys is calling me a liar, but offers no proof. I am not going to sit back and allow this guy to say I called something a lock when that isn't what I said, period"
But MOM, I only hit him on the playground because he called me names! He's a big meanie!
Are you serious? Someone attacks your character and calls you a liar and they are clearing not being truthful, you just sit back and say nothing?? By saying nothing, I should just confirm his assertion that I said something was a lock. You seem like a reasonable guy, please stay out of my threads. Please....
You got me intrigued by the game so here is what I flound that seems useful. I still don't have a side.
Some info - I don't have a side.
N Colorado strength of schedule so far 339th M ST SOS 76th
Seems to explain their records a bit
Nco
is returning a team that was 340th in defending the 3 pt shot. The
numbers are much better this year but against really crappy competition
which is why I went to look at last year (same basic group of guys.
Mostly juniors becoming seniors who don't TEND to make much improvement
according to basketball prospectus) MST likes to shoot that 3. they shoot at about 40%, and almost 40% of their total points come from the 3.
What does N Co do well; shoot 3's and get to the line. Mt St does NOT do a very good job at preventing these things.
After doing this research, it's Mt St or NP, but a serious look at the over (if its offered) as three's should rain all night.
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You got me intrigued by the game so here is what I flound that seems useful. I still don't have a side.
Some info - I don't have a side.
N Colorado strength of schedule so far 339th M ST SOS 76th
Seems to explain their records a bit
Nco
is returning a team that was 340th in defending the 3 pt shot. The
numbers are much better this year but against really crappy competition
which is why I went to look at last year (same basic group of guys.
Mostly juniors becoming seniors who don't TEND to make much improvement
according to basketball prospectus) MST likes to shoot that 3. they shoot at about 40%, and almost 40% of their total points come from the 3.
What does N Co do well; shoot 3's and get to the line. Mt St does NOT do a very good job at preventing these things.
After doing this research, it's Mt St or NP, but a serious look at the over (if its offered) as three's should rain all night.
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tough guy behind a computer, cant wait to see these winners comin
if you want respect, its not the way to go about it...with that said, gl on your plays and i believe you probably have alot of good to say and share with us, thx in advance
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