And you are a condescending jerk and a poor tout…You aren’t as good as you think you are, bro…Get over yourself…
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Then go and recommend in your Covers Tout scheme to bet multiple units on the Aggies in this matchup...Don't bet bad teams is a common capping anecdote, like being wary of heavy public teams like USC, Notre Dame, et al...Sure, a situational match up like this may hit, however in the long term, backing teams like this won't be profitable, due to the variability of outcomes. If you want to try to consistently profit from bottom dwellers, be my guest...Is there anyone in the COVERS NCAAF universe who agrees with me? Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: I have no dog in this matchup. My point is one of principle…Why would you ever back a historically bad team who has a bad ATS record. The only exception would be circumstances in a one off matchup…Perhaps this one with SJSU is one…This is a bad program and a pay day patsie schedule filler for Power 5s…The best bet is to stay away… Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Last 10 Years NM State ATS Home ATS 23-26-2 Away 22-37-1 That's 45-63-2 over the last 10 years... More Recent Last 3 Years NM State ATS - full - 2017-2019 Home ATS - 6-7-0 Away ATS - 6-11-0 That's 12-18-0 ATS... That's not good enough for me...Is it good enough for you? Quote Originally Posted by steponaduck: @LonghornHoosier Dude. Are you kidding? New Mexico State covers spreads quite well. So you're backing San Jose St then? What is their record as 28 point favorites over the last decade? I'm gonna assume thats a very small sample size without looking into it....Why? If you only bet on "good teams", you're still going to lose 50% of the time. If you're not looking at matchups and going off of stuff that happened in 2011 things will never work out. Its not like Bama covers 75% of the time. Thats not how gambling/handicapping works. There is no model or science that will help. Trends are one aspect of looking at things, but its probably not in the top 20 things you should be looking at....especially ones that span a decade with completely different players and coaches. Vegas knows everything we know, and thats already calculated in the line. Oddsmakers know NMST usually gets whooped....thats why they are 4 td dogs to a team that has only scored 23 points in its last 3 games combined.....So, if you didn't know any trends from the last 10 years....how do THESE teams matchup? Probably one of the most ignorant babbling comments I have ever seen on Covers....and thats saying something.
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And you are a condescending jerk and a poor tout…You aren’t as good as you think you are, bro…Get over yourself…
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Then go and recommend in your Covers Tout scheme to bet multiple units on the Aggies in this matchup...Don't bet bad teams is a common capping anecdote, like being wary of heavy public teams like USC, Notre Dame, et al...Sure, a situational match up like this may hit, however in the long term, backing teams like this won't be profitable, due to the variability of outcomes. If you want to try to consistently profit from bottom dwellers, be my guest...Is there anyone in the COVERS NCAAF universe who agrees with me? Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: I have no dog in this matchup. My point is one of principle…Why would you ever back a historically bad team who has a bad ATS record. The only exception would be circumstances in a one off matchup…Perhaps this one with SJSU is one…This is a bad program and a pay day patsie schedule filler for Power 5s…The best bet is to stay away… Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Last 10 Years NM State ATS Home ATS 23-26-2 Away 22-37-1 That's 45-63-2 over the last 10 years... More Recent Last 3 Years NM State ATS - full - 2017-2019 Home ATS - 6-7-0 Away ATS - 6-11-0 That's 12-18-0 ATS... That's not good enough for me...Is it good enough for you? Quote Originally Posted by steponaduck: @LonghornHoosier Dude. Are you kidding? New Mexico State covers spreads quite well. So you're backing San Jose St then? What is their record as 28 point favorites over the last decade? I'm gonna assume thats a very small sample size without looking into it....Why? If you only bet on "good teams", you're still going to lose 50% of the time. If you're not looking at matchups and going off of stuff that happened in 2011 things will never work out. Its not like Bama covers 75% of the time. Thats not how gambling/handicapping works. There is no model or science that will help. Trends are one aspect of looking at things, but its probably not in the top 20 things you should be looking at....especially ones that span a decade with completely different players and coaches. Vegas knows everything we know, and thats already calculated in the line. Oddsmakers know NMST usually gets whooped....thats why they are 4 td dogs to a team that has only scored 23 points in its last 3 games combined.....So, if you didn't know any trends from the last 10 years....how do THESE teams matchup? Probably one of the most ignorant babbling comments I have ever seen on Covers....and thats saying something.
And you are a condescending jerk and a poor tout…You aren’t as good as you think you are, bro…Get over yourself… Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Then go and recommend in your Covers Tout scheme to bet multiple units on the Aggies in this matchup...Don't bet bad teams is a common capping anecdote, like being wary of heavy public teams like USC, Notre Dame, et al...Sure, a situational match up like this may hit, however in the long term, backing teams like this won't be profitable, due to the variability of outcomes. If you want to try to consistently profit from bottom dwellers, be my guest...Is there anyone in the COVERS NCAAF universe who agrees with me? Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: I have no dog in this matchup. My point is one of principle…Why would you ever back a historically bad team who has a bad ATS record. The only exception would be circumstances in a one off matchup…Perhaps this one with SJSU is one…This is a bad program and a pay day patsie schedule filler for Power 5s…The best bet is to stay away… Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Last 10 Years NM State ATS Home ATS 23-26-2 Away 22-37-1 That's 45-63-2 over the last 10 years... More Recent Last 3 Years NM State ATS - full - 2017-2019 Home ATS - 6-7-0 Away ATS - 6-11-0 That's 12-18-0 ATS... That's not good enough for me...Is it good enough for you? Quote Originally Posted by steponaduck: @LonghornHoosier Dude. Are you kidding? New Mexico State covers spreads quite well. So you're backing San Jose St then? What is their record as 28 point favorites over the last decade? I'm gonna assume thats a very small sample size without looking into it....Why? If you only bet on "good teams", you're still going to lose 50% of the time. If you're not looking at matchups and going off of stuff that happened in 2011 things will never work out. Its not like Bama covers 75% of the time. Thats not how gambling/handicapping works. There is no model or science that will help. Trends are one aspect of looking at things, but its probably not in the top 20 things you should be looking at....especially ones that span a decade with completely different players and coaches. Vegas knows everything we know, and thats already calculated in the line. Oddsmakers know NMST usually gets whooped....thats why they are 4 td dogs to a team that has only scored 23 points in its last 3 games combined.....So, if you didn't know any trends from the last 10 years....how do THESE teams matchup? Probably one of the most ignorant babbling comments I have ever seen on Covers....and thats saying something.
Im a jerk because you just wanna bet all favorites and go 50% and dont understand the point spread is the equalizer and thats the ENTIRE REASON to cap games? Im probably better than I think I am since Im pretty hard on myself. Im actually probably one of the best college football cappers that ever lived.
Facts.
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
And you are a condescending jerk and a poor tout…You aren’t as good as you think you are, bro…Get over yourself… Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Then go and recommend in your Covers Tout scheme to bet multiple units on the Aggies in this matchup...Don't bet bad teams is a common capping anecdote, like being wary of heavy public teams like USC, Notre Dame, et al...Sure, a situational match up like this may hit, however in the long term, backing teams like this won't be profitable, due to the variability of outcomes. If you want to try to consistently profit from bottom dwellers, be my guest...Is there anyone in the COVERS NCAAF universe who agrees with me? Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: I have no dog in this matchup. My point is one of principle…Why would you ever back a historically bad team who has a bad ATS record. The only exception would be circumstances in a one off matchup…Perhaps this one with SJSU is one…This is a bad program and a pay day patsie schedule filler for Power 5s…The best bet is to stay away… Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: Last 10 Years NM State ATS Home ATS 23-26-2 Away 22-37-1 That's 45-63-2 over the last 10 years... More Recent Last 3 Years NM State ATS - full - 2017-2019 Home ATS - 6-7-0 Away ATS - 6-11-0 That's 12-18-0 ATS... That's not good enough for me...Is it good enough for you? Quote Originally Posted by steponaduck: @LonghornHoosier Dude. Are you kidding? New Mexico State covers spreads quite well. So you're backing San Jose St then? What is their record as 28 point favorites over the last decade? I'm gonna assume thats a very small sample size without looking into it....Why? If you only bet on "good teams", you're still going to lose 50% of the time. If you're not looking at matchups and going off of stuff that happened in 2011 things will never work out. Its not like Bama covers 75% of the time. Thats not how gambling/handicapping works. There is no model or science that will help. Trends are one aspect of looking at things, but its probably not in the top 20 things you should be looking at....especially ones that span a decade with completely different players and coaches. Vegas knows everything we know, and thats already calculated in the line. Oddsmakers know NMST usually gets whooped....thats why they are 4 td dogs to a team that has only scored 23 points in its last 3 games combined.....So, if you didn't know any trends from the last 10 years....how do THESE teams matchup? Probably one of the most ignorant babbling comments I have ever seen on Covers....and thats saying something.
Im a jerk because you just wanna bet all favorites and go 50% and dont understand the point spread is the equalizer and thats the ENTIRE REASON to cap games? Im probably better than I think I am since Im pretty hard on myself. Im actually probably one of the best college football cappers that ever lived.
I don't care if it's a bad team/good team or Power 5/Bottom 10 team. I bet on the teams I think will cover the effing spread myself! I like NMSU in this game and the spread in this game. I could care less how bad they may be. I think they will stay within the number against a team I don't think can cover a number, hence I bet the game.
Pretty simple
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@TRAIN69
Great point!
I don't care if it's a bad team/good team or Power 5/Bottom 10 team. I bet on the teams I think will cover the effing spread myself! I like NMSU in this game and the spread in this game. I could care less how bad they may be. I think they will stay within the number against a team I don't think can cover a number, hence I bet the game.
Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk…
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@TRAIN69
Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk…
@TRAIN69 Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk…
Nobody attacked you. I asked if you were backing SJST....and you couldnt answer why you werent. Then YOU called me a jerk and a poor tout for discussing the game and capping principles on a gambling website. I dont need to acknowledge anything as its pretty obvious. I dont know what business you are in, but I hope it doesnt involve customer interactions. Ive been on this site for nearly 20 years, so Covers knows what they get with me. I never called you a name or even said you were incorrect...you just got you panties in a bunch because you cant fathom why anyone would wanna back a team that you think is awful....yet wont bet against them. Very odd.
I think the kids today call that being a Karen.
Also, you think its easy to pick 20 games a week and go 55% over a whole season? I can assure you it isnt.
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
@TRAIN69 Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk…
Nobody attacked you. I asked if you were backing SJST....and you couldnt answer why you werent. Then YOU called me a jerk and a poor tout for discussing the game and capping principles on a gambling website. I dont need to acknowledge anything as its pretty obvious. I dont know what business you are in, but I hope it doesnt involve customer interactions. Ive been on this site for nearly 20 years, so Covers knows what they get with me. I never called you a name or even said you were incorrect...you just got you panties in a bunch because you cant fathom why anyone would wanna back a team that you think is awful....yet wont bet against them. Very odd.
I think the kids today call that being a Karen.
Also, you think its easy to pick 20 games a week and go 55% over a whole season? I can assure you it isnt.
You are unprofessional. You disgust me...And you are a fraud...
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: @TRAIN69 Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk… Nobody attacked you. I asked if you were backing SJST....and you couldnt answer why you werent. Then YOU called me a jerk and a poor tout for discussing the game and capping principles on a gambling website. I dont need to acknowledge anything as its pretty obvious. I dont know what business you are in, but I hope it doesnt involve customer interactions. Ive been on this site for nearly 20 years, so Covers knows what they get with me. I never called you a name or even said you were incorrect...you just got you panties in a bunch because you cant fathom why anyone would wanna back a team that you think is awful....yet wont bet against them. Very odd. I think the kids today call that being a Karen. Also, you think its easy to pick 20 games a week and go 55% over a whole season? I can assure you it isnt.
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You are unprofessional. You disgust me...And you are a fraud...
Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:
Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: @TRAIN69 Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk… Nobody attacked you. I asked if you were backing SJST....and you couldnt answer why you werent. Then YOU called me a jerk and a poor tout for discussing the game and capping principles on a gambling website. I dont need to acknowledge anything as its pretty obvious. I dont know what business you are in, but I hope it doesnt involve customer interactions. Ive been on this site for nearly 20 years, so Covers knows what they get with me. I never called you a name or even said you were incorrect...you just got you panties in a bunch because you cant fathom why anyone would wanna back a team that you think is awful....yet wont bet against them. Very odd. I think the kids today call that being a Karen. Also, you think its easy to pick 20 games a week and go 55% over a whole season? I can assure you it isnt.
You are unprofessional. You disgust me...And you are a fraud... Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: @TRAIN69 Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk… Nobody attacked you. I asked if you were backing SJST....and you couldnt answer why you werent. Then YOU called me a jerk and a poor tout for discussing the game and capping principles on a gambling website. I dont need to acknowledge anything as its pretty obvious. I dont know what business you are in, but I hope it doesnt involve customer interactions. Ive been on this site for nearly 20 years, so Covers knows what they get with me. I never called you a name or even said you were incorrect...you just got you panties in a bunch because you cant fathom why anyone would wanna back a team that you think is awful....yet wont bet against them. Very odd. I think the kids today call that being a Karen. Also, you think its easy to pick 20 games a week and go 55% over a whole season? I can assure you it isnt.
So thats 4 names you've called me now...unprofessional....jerk...fraud....poor....
Names I've called you :
Yep. None.
Very professional and adult of you to call names. I might tell my mom.
So, can I assume SJST ML is on your card?
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Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:
You are unprofessional. You disgust me...And you are a fraud... Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69: Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier: @TRAIN69 Based on what? Picking 20 games a week and hitting 55% of your picks if you are lucky. And you represent yourself as an “employee” of covers, yet you attack me because I have a different take on an issue. That’s not very professional of you. I am a business professional, so I know. Your attempt at bravado demonstrates how insecure you are…I can keep this going if you like. If you are really a professional you would acknowledge that we have a difference of opinion and agree to disagree. Instead you attack me. Get a life…You come across as a pathetic condescending jerk… Nobody attacked you. I asked if you were backing SJST....and you couldnt answer why you werent. Then YOU called me a jerk and a poor tout for discussing the game and capping principles on a gambling website. I dont need to acknowledge anything as its pretty obvious. I dont know what business you are in, but I hope it doesnt involve customer interactions. Ive been on this site for nearly 20 years, so Covers knows what they get with me. I never called you a name or even said you were incorrect...you just got you panties in a bunch because you cant fathom why anyone would wanna back a team that you think is awful....yet wont bet against them. Very odd. I think the kids today call that being a Karen. Also, you think its easy to pick 20 games a week and go 55% over a whole season? I can assure you it isnt.
So thats 4 names you've called me now...unprofessional....jerk...fraud....poor....
Names I've called you :
Yep. None.
Very professional and adult of you to call names. I might tell my mom.
I am betting my Mortgage on NMST if it generates this much attention. Easy cover.
Here’s my take, SJST had to travel to Hawaii then travel to Western Michigan the following week. If you have traveled before you can only imagine how tired one might feel after so many miles. I don’t think this is a upset, however 28 pts down to 26 pts makes me think of a back door cover at the least. On paper it appears NMST has a slight edge in rushing. But this QB can throw 40 to 50 times a game.
Just my 2 cents..
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I am betting my Mortgage on NMST if it generates this much attention. Easy cover.
Here’s my take, SJST had to travel to Hawaii then travel to Western Michigan the following week. If you have traveled before you can only imagine how tired one might feel after so many miles. I don’t think this is a upset, however 28 pts down to 26 pts makes me think of a back door cover at the least. On paper it appears NMST has a slight edge in rushing. But this QB can throw 40 to 50 times a game.
While we are on the subject of bad teams, Akron and Ohio U are both Gawdafull and Ohio is laying 9.5...theres a gamblers saying about never ask a bad team to win for you but when 2 bad teams play you can sometimes find an edge or a "spot play"...food for thought
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While we are on the subject of bad teams, Akron and Ohio U are both Gawdafull and Ohio is laying 9.5...theres a gamblers saying about never ask a bad team to win for you but when 2 bad teams play you can sometimes find an edge or a "spot play"...food for thought
I think TRAIN made some great points here. The reason NMS is getting 27.5 points is because of their reputation as a bottom dweller and the fact that their ATS record is terrible over the past 10 years. So now if we research this game we can benefit from a line that is higher than it should be. We have value here. The past influenced the line but the past does not dictate the score of this game Saturday.
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I think TRAIN made some great points here. The reason NMS is getting 27.5 points is because of their reputation as a bottom dweller and the fact that their ATS record is terrible over the past 10 years. So now if we research this game we can benefit from a line that is higher than it should be. We have value here. The past influenced the line but the past does not dictate the score of this game Saturday.
If there is a line on Alabama cheerleaders being hotter than the USC cheerleaders (which probably isn't true, they are smoking hot), and there is an edge in value.. take the Alabama cheerleaders. Pretty simple.
Will take a look at NM, thanks..
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If there is a line on Alabama cheerleaders being hotter than the USC cheerleaders (which probably isn't true, they are smoking hot), and there is an edge in value.. take the Alabama cheerleaders. Pretty simple.
That comes into play here I believe on both sides as SJST was projected better than what they have preformed, only covering against FCS Southern Utah....NMSU is trash no doubt but 5 tds might just be enough
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@Super_Chicken
That comes into play here I believe on both sides as SJST was projected better than what they have preformed, only covering against FCS Southern Utah....NMSU is trash no doubt but 5 tds might just be enough
NM ST is the lock of the century, and LonghornHoosier does not understand the basic principles of handicapping, if he can't understand why someone would bet on a bad team.
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NM ST is the lock of the century, and LonghornHoosier does not understand the basic principles of handicapping, if he can't understand why someone would bet on a bad team.
Did you say LOCK? Lock of the Century for a Bottom 5 team...You have lost all credibility...
NM State may indeed cover this particular game, based on situational factors but to follow this mantra medium to long term is a losing proposition...Thats what I am advocating...I guess that's too difficult for neanderthal degenerates to understand...
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NM ST is the lock of the century, and LonghornHoosier does not understand the basic principles of handicapping, if he can't understand why someone would bet on a bad team.
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Did you say LOCK? Lock of the Century for a Bottom 5 team...You have lost all credibility...
NM State may indeed cover this particular game, based on situational factors but to follow this mantra medium to long term is a losing proposition...Thats what I am advocating...I guess that's too difficult for neanderthal degenerates to understand...
Quote Originally Posted by Jimmy_Cats:
NM ST is the lock of the century, and LonghornHoosier does not understand the basic principles of handicapping, if he can't understand why someone would bet on a bad team.
And what is too hard for you to understand, is in THIS game some of us thing NMSU getting this many points is a game worth betting on. So everyone has to follow how LHH chooses his plays?
"Gosh people, only play favs, only Power 5 schools, because gosh, it's the ONLY way to gamble people. It's about playing only these teams. NOT about finding VALUE in other games I don't like"
BTW - How's it working out for you so far this year LHH?
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@LonghornHoosier
And what is too hard for you to understand, is in THIS game some of us thing NMSU getting this many points is a game worth betting on. So everyone has to follow how LHH chooses his plays?
"Gosh people, only play favs, only Power 5 schools, because gosh, it's the ONLY way to gamble people. It's about playing only these teams. NOT about finding VALUE in other games I don't like"
BTW - How's it working out for you so far this year LHH?
Wow, "to each his own," bet on what you like, no justification required. There will be differences of opinions but let's keep it civil, respectful, seriously. We share a common interest, it should bring people together, not cause strife.
"I'm afraid all we may have done is awakened a sleeping giant."
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Wow, "to each his own," bet on what you like, no justification required. There will be differences of opinions but let's keep it civil, respectful, seriously. We share a common interest, it should bring people together, not cause strife.
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