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    Vegas has some stones setting this Texas West Virginia line like this...

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    bigvern1013
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 3:40 PM ET #51

    Scal-

    I reviewed the posts, and am a bit surprised. What exactly are you upset about?

    The PSU @ Purdue +14.5 and BSU -13.5 @ Wyoming and Purdue RSW over were conclusions that I had arrived at on my own and bet accordingly. A likely 0 for 3......WVU ML this week @ Texas is another game that we see the same way, and I was making light of that fact. Not really an indictment of the picks, but more of an attempt at sarcasm.  

    Now I am a philandering Trump supporter who needs to "warm my rump" before it is too late, and beg the mods to delete my posts? Why would I do that?.......To preserve credibility on the message boards of a gambling website?!!!

    It seems that you have the impression that I actually wager money solely based upon your opinions. The only wager that I have ever blind tailed you on was this year's Nathan's hotdog eating contest. Bet the max ($250 prop bet @5dimes) and didn't bother to watch. I figured that only a true degenerate would write 2 pages on handicapping a hotdog contest. The pick and analysis did not disappoint. Well done.

    Records don't lie...you certainly have a pretty good feel for sports and proposition gambling. But, you have to find a way to keep all of that sand out of your vagina.

    And thanks for checking me  and best of luck from here on in.


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    Scal-

    I reviewed the posts, and am a bit surprised. What exactly are you upset about?

    The PSU @ Purdue +14.5 and BSU -13.5 @ Wyoming and Purdue RSW over were conclusions that I had arrived at on my own and bet accordingly. A likely 0 for 3......WVU ML this week @ Texas is another game that we see the same way, and I was making light of that fact. Not really an indictment of the picks, but more of an attempt at sarcasm.  

    Now I am a philandering Trump supporter who needs to "warm my rump" before it is too late, and beg the mods to delete my posts? Why would I do that?.......To preserve credibility on the message boards of a gambling website?!!!

    It seems that you have the impression that I actually wager money solely based upon your opinions. The only wager that I have ever blind tailed you on was this year's Nathan's hotdog eating contest. Bet the max ($250 prop bet @5dimes) and didn't bother to watch. I figured that only a true degenerate would write 2 pages on handicapping a hotdog contest. The pick and analysis did not disappoint. Well done.

    Records don't lie...you certainly have a pretty good feel for sports and proposition gambling. But, you have to find a way to keep all of that sand out of your vagina.

    And thanks for checking me  and best of luck from here on in.


     
    scalabrine
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 4:08 PM ET #52

    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

     

    Scal-

    I reviewed the posts, and am a bit surprised. What exactly are you upset about? 

    The PSU @ Purdue +14.5 and BSU -13.5 @ Wyoming and Purdue RSW over were conclusions that I had arrived at on my own and bet accordingly. A likely 0 for 3......WVU ML this week @ Texas is another game that we see the same way, and I was making light of that fact. Not really an indictment of the picks, but more of an attempt at sarcasm.  

    Now I am a philandering Trump supporter who needs to "warm my rump" before it is too late, and beg the mods to delete my posts? Why would I do that?.......To preserve credibility on the message boards of a gambling website?!!!

    It seems that you have the impression that I actually wager money solely based upon your opinions. The only wager that I have ever blind tailed you on was this year's Nathan's hotdog eating contest. Bet the max ($250 prop bet @5dimes) and didn't bother to watch. I figured that only a true degenerate would write 2 pages on handicapping a hotdog contest. The pick and analysis did not disappoint. Well done. 

    Records don't lie...you certainly have a pretty good feel for sports and proposition gambling. But, you have to find a way to keep all of that sand out of your vagina.

    And thanks for checking me  and best of luck from here on in. 



    "Solely based on your opinions"

    I never said that. You simply pointed out that two picks I posted and that you "rode with me" on lost. And you said it loud and clear.

    And then I got hot, particularly with a POY that was putting cracks in the towers at the Venetian, and you make no mention of that. 

    So the insinuation is to slyly defame and make your way out of the thread. Well I pulled you back in by your Hillbilly Jim overalls and set the record straight, that's all.

    And saying I have a "pretty good feel for sports"?

    Give me a break. It's like saying Steven Hawking has a pretty good feel about the about the origins of the universe. I'm no Hawking but please, let's not reduce my skill here to "pretty good feel" levels.

    That's what a professional chef might say if you picked up a Ginsu knife and minced an onion for the first time. "You have a pretty good feel for the kitchen and its utensils Vern". Gimmee a break.

    Anyhow, I'm glad you tailed the Joey Chestnut prop. I didn't write it for my health.





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    Quote Originally Posted by bigvern1013:

     

    Scal-

    I reviewed the posts, and am a bit surprised. What exactly are you upset about? 

    The PSU @ Purdue +14.5 and BSU -13.5 @ Wyoming and Purdue RSW over were conclusions that I had arrived at on my own and bet accordingly. A likely 0 for 3......WVU ML this week @ Texas is another game that we see the same way, and I was making light of that fact. Not really an indictment of the picks, but more of an attempt at sarcasm.  

    Now I am a philandering Trump supporter who needs to "warm my rump" before it is too late, and beg the mods to delete my posts? Why would I do that?.......To preserve credibility on the message boards of a gambling website?!!!

    It seems that you have the impression that I actually wager money solely based upon your opinions. The only wager that I have ever blind tailed you on was this year's Nathan's hotdog eating contest. Bet the max ($250 prop bet @5dimes) and didn't bother to watch. I figured that only a true degenerate would write 2 pages on handicapping a hotdog contest. The pick and analysis did not disappoint. Well done. 

    Records don't lie...you certainly have a pretty good feel for sports and proposition gambling. But, you have to find a way to keep all of that sand out of your vagina.

    And thanks for checking me  and best of luck from here on in. 



    "Solely based on your opinions"

    I never said that. You simply pointed out that two picks I posted and that you "rode with me" on lost. And you said it loud and clear.

    And then I got hot, particularly with a POY that was putting cracks in the towers at the Venetian, and you make no mention of that. 

    So the insinuation is to slyly defame and make your way out of the thread. Well I pulled you back in by your Hillbilly Jim overalls and set the record straight, that's all.

    And saying I have a "pretty good feel for sports"?

    Give me a break. It's like saying Steven Hawking has a pretty good feel about the about the origins of the universe. I'm no Hawking but please, let's not reduce my skill here to "pretty good feel" levels.

    That's what a professional chef might say if you picked up a Ginsu knife and minced an onion for the first time. "You have a pretty good feel for the kitchen and its utensils Vern". Gimmee a break.

    Anyhow, I'm glad you tailed the Joey Chestnut prop. I didn't write it for my health.





     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 5:14 PM ET #53


    bigvern's turn.  I'll wait for the next reply @ the pay window with WV..
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    bigvern's turn.  I'll wait for the next reply @ the pay window with WV..
     
    mbialowas
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 5:41 PM ET #54

    I think Texas at home or no bet here. West Virginia is good, but a touch overrated.
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    I think Texas at home or no bet here. West Virginia is good, but a touch overrated.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 6:06 PM ET #55

    Raucous fans.  Lmfao.   U do know why Aggie fans call them tea sippers.   Point being, if a big 12 team had to pick an away game against  a 5-4 team to win the conference w the sole determination based on fan craziness, raucous (All other things coaching, talent, being =), aside from ISU and Kansas, Tx would win that vote.    Or perhaps we can put it 2 a test.   How bout we meet at Schultz bout 1030 and then we can over to the game and measure the decibel level, paid attendance, etc.
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    Raucous fans.  Lmfao.   U do know why Aggie fans call them tea sippers.   Point being, if a big 12 team had to pick an away game against  a 5-4 team to win the conference w the sole determination based on fan craziness, raucous (All other things coaching, talent, being =), aside from ISU and Kansas, Tx would win that vote.    Or perhaps we can put it 2 a test.   How bout we meet at Schultz bout 1030 and then we can over to the game and measure the decibel level, paid attendance, etc.
     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 6:36 PM ET #56

    Shiek:

    I'll meet you there. I usually sit outside b/c it gets way too crowded inside. The weather is supposed to be nice!



    LR

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    Shiek:

    I'll meet you there. I usually sit outside b/c it gets way too crowded inside. The weather is supposed to be nice!



    LR

     
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    Posted: Nov. 8, 2016 - 6:43 PM ET #57

    u obviously weren't there for Baylor game
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    u obviously weren't there for Baylor game
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Raucous fans.  Lmfao.   U do know why Aggie fans call them tea sippers.   Point being, if a big 12 team had to pick an away game against  a 5-4 team to win the conference w the sole determination based on fan craziness, raucous (All other things coaching, talent, being =), aside from ISU and Kansas, Tx would win that vote.    Or perhaps we can put it 2 a test.   How bout we meet at Schultz bout 1030 and then we can over to the game and measure the decibel level, paid attendance, etc.


    Shiek,

    Not sure what point you are trying to make about the fans.

    What do you think home field advantage is all about? Access to the in-house jacuzzis and a short walk to the field? It's about the fan support and how the other team responds to that. And of course, no travel.

    It's the 9th largest stadium in the world and you're hear to crap on Texas fans?

    Why do you think bettors here are siding with Texas? The home field advantage (FAN support and less so, travel) and Strong's job on the line.

    That's it. Outside of superior run offense, WV beats them in every other category.

    So your counter-argument to that is that Texas fans are tea sippers? Well then take West Virginia since you are downgrading the fan support!

    I was positing an argument FOR the Texas backers because there is no substantive reason to back them WITH points (which to me is obnoxious line-setting by the books to give Texas this much credit). They are backing them in a large part because they are unbeaten at home.

    And you are the one who keeps downgrading their cheering/applause levels.

    And to say Texas should be 8-1? You haven't watched these games. If you have watched them, go back and watch them 10 times over. And if you come back and say Texas should be 8-1 after that, DO not bet on these games. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Raucous fans.  Lmfao.   U do know why Aggie fans call them tea sippers.   Point being, if a big 12 team had to pick an away game against  a 5-4 team to win the conference w the sole determination based on fan craziness, raucous (All other things coaching, talent, being =), aside from ISU and Kansas, Tx would win that vote.    Or perhaps we can put it 2 a test.   How bout we meet at Schultz bout 1030 and then we can over to the game and measure the decibel level, paid attendance, etc.


    Shiek,

    Not sure what point you are trying to make about the fans.

    What do you think home field advantage is all about? Access to the in-house jacuzzis and a short walk to the field? It's about the fan support and how the other team responds to that. And of course, no travel.

    It's the 9th largest stadium in the world and you're hear to crap on Texas fans?

    Why do you think bettors here are siding with Texas? The home field advantage (FAN support and less so, travel) and Strong's job on the line.

    That's it. Outside of superior run offense, WV beats them in every other category.

    So your counter-argument to that is that Texas fans are tea sippers? Well then take West Virginia since you are downgrading the fan support!

    I was positing an argument FOR the Texas backers because there is no substantive reason to back them WITH points (which to me is obnoxious line-setting by the books to give Texas this much credit). They are backing them in a large part because they are unbeaten at home.

    And you are the one who keeps downgrading their cheering/applause levels.

    And to say Texas should be 8-1? You haven't watched these games. If you have watched them, go back and watch them 10 times over. And if you come back and say Texas should be 8-1 after that, DO not bet on these games. 

     
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    Crap on Texas fans.  I am a Texas fan.   Haven't watched the games I've watched every game of UTs for the last 30 years.   The whole point of the fire charlie movement is how pathetic the mistakes have been  as u noted all the blown leads, 3 blocked extras, and 3 offsides penalties on first drive of Kan St game.     Im saying but for the coaching/inexperience they should be 8-1 (although arguably Baylor game was kind of handed to them).   Look at the Tech comparable.   W Va dominated the entire game (albeit mahomes should not have played) tx did the same thing after first quarter but due to the same stupid mistakes they let Tech back into game.

    I didn't take issue w anything u said other than shying away from betting w va because of Texas crazy fans/home field adv.  I've lived in Austin for 30 years and I've been to other big 12 stadiums/A &M and from my perspective UT fans are fair weathered and it is mild compared to the others.  Tx fans would rather sit at home and watch reruns of the 2006 USC game or drink at the stadium club than Get up at 11 and watch a team that is not meeting expectations.  I will confess that I haven't been 2 a game in a few yrs but my step daughter works the concession stands  and I watch every game and doubt it has.  Also, when watching the Baylor game last week several of us commented how a section of seats appeared to be empty.

    I'll just close by saying despite the shortcomings I'm pulling for strong because he is all class.   And as to those betting if W Va doesn't win Howard mistakes Are more likely to have been the cause then the UT fan base.


















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    Crap on Texas fans.  I am a Texas fan.   Haven't watched the games I've watched every game of UTs for the last 30 years.   The whole point of the fire charlie movement is how pathetic the mistakes have been  as u noted all the blown leads, 3 blocked extras, and 3 offsides penalties on first drive of Kan St game.     Im saying but for the coaching/inexperience they should be 8-1 (although arguably Baylor game was kind of handed to them).   Look at the Tech comparable.   W Va dominated the entire game (albeit mahomes should not have played) tx did the same thing after first quarter but due to the same stupid mistakes they let Tech back into game.

    I didn't take issue w anything u said other than shying away from betting w va because of Texas crazy fans/home field adv.  I've lived in Austin for 30 years and I've been to other big 12 stadiums/A &M and from my perspective UT fans are fair weathered and it is mild compared to the others.  Tx fans would rather sit at home and watch reruns of the 2006 USC game or drink at the stadium club than Get up at 11 and watch a team that is not meeting expectations.  I will confess that I haven't been 2 a game in a few yrs but my step daughter works the concession stands  and I watch every game and doubt it has.  Also, when watching the Baylor game last week several of us commented how a section of seats appeared to be empty.

    I'll just close by saying despite the shortcomings I'm pulling for strong because he is all class.   And as to those betting if W Va doesn't win Howard mistakes Are more likely to have been the cause then the UT fan base.


















     
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

    it is a coin flip game.   Though the Texas is still not good, Charlie Strong's influence on the D and in particular the secondary is making an impact.   Throw in that it is pretty much understood that he must win all four games to get a year four.   And yes, if Charlie goes 8-4, he will most certainly get a year 4.      The game is in Austin.   Texas has played very well recently in Austin versus on the road.     I disagree with your assessment, Vegas knows that this is a toss up.     No play for me.    

    No Sir. Strong is DONE at Texas regardless of how the rest of the games turn out. Big money boosters want him gone and he will be gone. Surprised as a Horn fan you don't know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LonghornHoosier:

    it is a coin flip game.   Though the Texas is still not good, Charlie Strong's influence on the D and in particular the secondary is making an impact.   Throw in that it is pretty much understood that he must win all four games to get a year four.   And yes, if Charlie goes 8-4, he will most certainly get a year 4.      The game is in Austin.   Texas has played very well recently in Austin versus on the road.     I disagree with your assessment, Vegas knows that this is a toss up.     No play for me.    

    No Sir. Strong is DONE at Texas regardless of how the rest of the games turn out. Big money boosters want him gone and he will be gone. Surprised as a Horn fan you don't know that.
     
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    I made the line WVU -4.5 on a neutral field. 

    RB Rushell Shell has been ruled out for WVU. Maybe that's why the spread is moving?

    Anyway, this thread has been a good read. Thanks Scal
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    I made the line WVU -4.5 on a neutral field. 

    RB Rushell Shell has been ruled out for WVU. Maybe that's why the spread is moving?

    Anyway, this thread has been a good read. Thanks Scal
     
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    Hey scal what were your betting points for joey chestnut?
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    Hey scal what were your betting points for joey chestnut?
     
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    Vern you win. Holy shi t
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    Vern you win. Holy shi t
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BioAim:

    Hey scal what were your betting points for joey chestnut?

    He ate 73 dogs the weeks prior in Maine.

    And his O/U for the 4th of July was 63.5. Easy money.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BioAim:

    Hey scal what were your betting points for joey chestnut?

    He ate 73 dogs the weeks prior in Maine.

    And his O/U for the 4th of July was 63.5. Easy money.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    I made the line WVU -4.5 on a neutral field. 

    RB Rushell Shell has been ruled out for WVU. Maybe that's why the spread is moving?

    Anyway, this thread has been a good read. Thanks Scal

    She'll is a game time decision from what I read  and the guy who rocked the injury updates earlier agreed with that in part
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    Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

    I made the line WVU -4.5 on a neutral field. 

    RB Rushell Shell has been ruled out for WVU. Maybe that's why the spread is moving?

    Anyway, this thread has been a good read. Thanks Scal

    She'll is a game time decision from what I read  and the guy who rocked the injury updates earlier agreed with that in part
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Crap on Texas fans.  I am a Texas fan.   Haven't watched the games I've watched every game of UTs for the last 30 years.   The whole point of the fire charlie movement is how pathetic the mistakes have been  as u noted all the blown leads, 3 blocked extras, and 3 offsides penalties on first drive of Kan St game.     Im saying but for the coaching/inexperience they should be 8-1 (although arguably Baylor game was kind of handed to them).   Look at the Tech comparable.   W Va dominated the entire game (albeit mahomes should not have played) tx did the same thing after first quarter but due to the same stupid mistakes they let Tech back into game.

    I didn't take issue w anything u said other than shying away from betting w va because of Texas crazy fans/home field adv.  I've lived in Austin for 30 years and I've been to other big 12 stadiums/A &M and from my perspective UT fans are fair weathered and it is mild compared to the others.  Tx fans would rather sit at home and watch reruns of the 2006 USC game or drink at the stadium club than Get up at 11 and watch a team that is not meeting expectations.  I will confess that I haven't been 2 a game in a few yrs but my step daughter works the concession stands  and I watch every game and doubt it has.  Also, when watching the Baylor game last week several of us commented how a section of seats appeared to be empty.

    I'll just close by saying despite the shortcomings I'm pulling for strong because he is all class.   And as to those betting if W Va doesn't win Howard mistakes Are more likely to have been the cause then the UT fan base.



















    Too many mistakes game after game after game. They aren't cleaning hem up as you even admitted. I don't know how you could possibly put your money on that LAYING points here.
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Crap on Texas fans.  I am a Texas fan.   Haven't watched the games I've watched every game of UTs for the last 30 years.   The whole point of the fire charlie movement is how pathetic the mistakes have been  as u noted all the blown leads, 3 blocked extras, and 3 offsides penalties on first drive of Kan St game.     Im saying but for the coaching/inexperience they should be 8-1 (although arguably Baylor game was kind of handed to them).   Look at the Tech comparable.   W Va dominated the entire game (albeit mahomes should not have played) tx did the same thing after first quarter but due to the same stupid mistakes they let Tech back into game.

    I didn't take issue w anything u said other than shying away from betting w va because of Texas crazy fans/home field adv.  I've lived in Austin for 30 years and I've been to other big 12 stadiums/A &M and from my perspective UT fans are fair weathered and it is mild compared to the others.  Tx fans would rather sit at home and watch reruns of the 2006 USC game or drink at the stadium club than Get up at 11 and watch a team that is not meeting expectations.  I will confess that I haven't been 2 a game in a few yrs but my step daughter works the concession stands  and I watch every game and doubt it has.  Also, when watching the Baylor game last week several of us commented how a section of seats appeared to be empty.

    I'll just close by saying despite the shortcomings I'm pulling for strong because he is all class.   And as to those betting if W Va doesn't win Howard mistakes Are more likely to have been the cause then the UT fan base.



















    Too many mistakes game after game after game. They aren't cleaning hem up as you even admitted. I don't know how you could possibly put your money on that LAYING points here.
     
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    Tough break Scal. I know that one hurt. Shake it off, and don't let a big loss like the election into your football handicapping.


    One disaster has a way of changing everything. Nothing wrong with taking a break.

    Moving forward, I have no intention of going to war with you. I would much rather carry on a productive dialogue, most of the time from opposite ends of the spectrum.

    On a side note, after this weekend I am going to be gone for awhile:

    https://www.travelocity.com/Hawaii-Hotels-Royal-Kona-Resort.h25276.Hotel-Information?chkin=11/17/2016&chkout=11/28/2016&rm1=a2&hwrqCacheKey=9b61a69f-da9e-4d64-acf5-d2b17b02a8b3HWRQ1478698269439&c=e48d0f9e-37ba-4679-afe8-43f24b7fe34c&packageType=fh&exp_dp=1786.66&exp_ts=1478698371908&exp_curr=USD&exp_pg=HSR&inttkn=pAXkXQm6wGs08tVu

    Just booked. Going to have a little celebration with the wife and a few friends after I get the lampshade off of my head.

    Never Make A Winner A Loser. Never.
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    Tough break Scal. I know that one hurt. Shake it off, and don't let a big loss like the election into your football handicapping.


    One disaster has a way of changing everything. Nothing wrong with taking a break.

    Moving forward, I have no intention of going to war with you. I would much rather carry on a productive dialogue, most of the time from opposite ends of the spectrum.

    On a side note, after this weekend I am going to be gone for awhile:

    https://www.travelocity.com/Hawaii-Hotels-Royal-Kona-Resort.h25276.Hotel-Information?chkin=11/17/2016&chkout=11/28/2016&rm1=a2&hwrqCacheKey=9b61a69f-da9e-4d64-acf5-d2b17b02a8b3HWRQ1478698269439&c=e48d0f9e-37ba-4679-afe8-43f24b7fe34c&packageType=fh&exp_dp=1786.66&exp_ts=1478698371908&exp_curr=USD&exp_pg=HSR&inttkn=pAXkXQm6wGs08tVu

    Just booked. Going to have a little celebration with the wife and a few friends after I get the lampshade off of my head.

     
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    Shiek:

    Must confess I wasn't there for the Baylor game -I'm a HS football coach and my Saturdays are always busy.  However, the Sunday we played ND the place was packed and unbelievable!  

    I agree with your assessment of our fanbase - I remember admitting it to no one (but myself) that the environment at a 5-6 aggy Turkey day game was better than some of our games when we were in our transition from Young to McCoy circa 2007 (Franny's last at aggy, I believe)  CS was rocking...  

    Peace, brother...  

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    Shiek:

    Must confess I wasn't there for the Baylor game -I'm a HS football coach and my Saturdays are always busy.  However, the Sunday we played ND the place was packed and unbelievable!  

    I agree with your assessment of our fanbase - I remember admitting it to no one (but myself) that the environment at a 5-6 aggy Turkey day game was better than some of our games when we were in our transition from Young to McCoy circa 2007 (Franny's last at aggy, I believe)  CS was rocking...  

    Peace, brother...  

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Too many mistakes game after game after game. They aren't cleaning hem up as you even admitted. I don't know how you could possibly put your money on that LAYING points here.


    Blocked PATs and FS...we saw it in OKSt....cleaned that up so far.  Even shockingly made a big kick against Baylor

    Stupid defensive penalties....over-exuberance after making big plays versus ISU.  Dumb but understandable and you want to see fire from the players.  Just not to the point of 15-yd PF.

    More stupid defensive penalties....offsides vs KState and other dumb crap

    The last 2 games vs Bay and TT were better overall.  While Texas is a very young team, and penalties happen with them, it still shouldnt happen and what irks most people about Strong's leadership.

    Hard to fault Foreman's fumble at the half yd line considering the effort he put in that run.  I very very very much fault Gilbert for running the 18-wheeler pkg in crucial times when Foreman was the right call.  I dont fault the players

    Texas is improving and learning.  They arent getting the head kicked in like we've seen in past years.  The morale is up.  The running game is terrific.  The deep passing game is good.  The defense is better than earlier this year, though still below average.  People in Austin are actually optimistic about the team.  9-4 may keep Charlie's job and that's what the players want. 

    The books are definitely taking a side here with Texas.  Those taking WV cannot be faulted.  They are better in a number of aspects of the game.  Can they play well away from home?  They didnt in Stillwater and this will be another tough road test.

    Should be another close game.

    good luck guys

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:


    Too many mistakes game after game after game. They aren't cleaning hem up as you even admitted. I don't know how you could possibly put your money on that LAYING points here.


    Blocked PATs and FS...we saw it in OKSt....cleaned that up so far.  Even shockingly made a big kick against Baylor

    Stupid defensive penalties....over-exuberance after making big plays versus ISU.  Dumb but understandable and you want to see fire from the players.  Just not to the point of 15-yd PF.

    More stupid defensive penalties....offsides vs KState and other dumb crap

    The last 2 games vs Bay and TT were better overall.  While Texas is a very young team, and penalties happen with them, it still shouldnt happen and what irks most people about Strong's leadership.

    Hard to fault Foreman's fumble at the half yd line considering the effort he put in that run.  I very very very much fault Gilbert for running the 18-wheeler pkg in crucial times when Foreman was the right call.  I dont fault the players

    Texas is improving and learning.  They arent getting the head kicked in like we've seen in past years.  The morale is up.  The running game is terrific.  The deep passing game is good.  The defense is better than earlier this year, though still below average.  People in Austin are actually optimistic about the team.  9-4 may keep Charlie's job and that's what the players want. 

    The books are definitely taking a side here with Texas.  Those taking WV cannot be faulted.  They are better in a number of aspects of the game.  Can they play well away from home?  They didnt in Stillwater and this will be another tough road test.

    Should be another close game.

    good luck guys

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by VegasVandal:



    I agree with what you are saying in terms of "attractive" plays that people see on the surface but IMO that Raiders/Broncos game is not a good comparison because the Raiders looked 3x better on offense this season while the Broncos have looked 2-3 x better on defense this season (as we all know the D has been playing much better). IMO, Broncos never looked as good as the Raiders this season on an overall basis and thankfully we saw that Sunday Night

    This WVU/Texas matchup lacks that narrative because WVU is better on BOTH sides of the ball and getting MUCH LESS respect for it than Broncos were (albeit the Broncos are a public darling)and deservedly so since they had won what.. 13 straight road road games in conference prior to their losses this season.

    I was on Texas last week because I saw a huge uptick from them on an overall basis and despite some teams troubles winning there, they just play absolutely no defense. One of the worst TT defenses I have seen in many years and for those of you who follow CFB as I do, that is saying a whole hell of a lot!

    I do see some things that provide some intrigue toward taking Texas here but this is just a game WVU should win. You can't trust TEX D to contain WVU nor should you. I appreciate anyone who likes Texas here but WVU for me BOL



    I hear you.  The point of my comparison was to make the point that WVU +3 would qualify as a "sexy dog" aka public dog.  I primarily play dogs, upwards of 80% and it is CRUCIAL to have the ability to sniff out (lol) the public dogs.  I'm always improving my skills in this area.  Having the ability to read the public and general consensus of a team helps tremendously..

    On another note, I don't know if I agree with you that WVU has a better offense than Texas.  Sterlin Gilbert is really doing a solid job in his first year.  Tony Gibson (WVU's DC) has seen his D give up 227 and 277 rushing yards to Texas in the last two matchups, and I think with this year's Texas team that is much improved on offense will be able to easily move the ball through the air and ground.

    The other factor Texas has in its favor is scheduling.  Facing Kansas next week gives them the chance to focus on this game with 100%.  WVU with a huge look-ahead game V. Oklahoma next week.

    BOL all.
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    I agree with what you are saying in terms of "attractive" plays that people see on the surface but IMO that Raiders/Broncos game is not a good comparison because the Raiders looked 3x better on offense this season while the Broncos have looked 2-3 x better on defense this season (as we all know the D has been playing much better). IMO, Broncos never looked as good as the Raiders this season on an overall basis and thankfully we saw that Sunday Night

    This WVU/Texas matchup lacks that narrative because WVU is better on BOTH sides of the ball and getting MUCH LESS respect for it than Broncos were (albeit the Broncos are a public darling)and deservedly so since they had won what.. 13 straight road road games in conference prior to their losses this season.

    I was on Texas last week because I saw a huge uptick from them on an overall basis and despite some teams troubles winning there, they just play absolutely no defense. One of the worst TT defenses I have seen in many years and for those of you who follow CFB as I do, that is saying a whole hell of a lot!

    I do see some things that provide some intrigue toward taking Texas here but this is just a game WVU should win. You can't trust TEX D to contain WVU nor should you. I appreciate anyone who likes Texas here but WVU for me BOL



    I hear you.  The point of my comparison was to make the point that WVU +3 would qualify as a "sexy dog" aka public dog.  I primarily play dogs, upwards of 80% and it is CRUCIAL to have the ability to sniff out (lol) the public dogs.  I'm always improving my skills in this area.  Having the ability to read the public and general consensus of a team helps tremendously..

    On another note, I don't know if I agree with you that WVU has a better offense than Texas.  Sterlin Gilbert is really doing a solid job in his first year.  Tony Gibson (WVU's DC) has seen his D give up 227 and 277 rushing yards to Texas in the last two matchups, and I think with this year's Texas team that is much improved on offense will be able to easily move the ball through the air and ground.

    The other factor Texas has in its favor is scheduling.  Facing Kansas next week gives them the chance to focus on this game with 100%.  WVU with a huge look-ahead game V. Oklahoma next week.

    BOL all.
     
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    I'm an OKstate fan and followed both.
    Texas has one of the best RB's in the nation. If he didn't get hurt vs OKst IDK if we pull that one off. 

    UT defense is still horrid 

    WVU is not the usual Holgerson offense. Their QB is average at best... no dominating players on the offensive side of the ball that stuck out to me. Average run game and really hate their QB, he just doesn't impress me. 

    WVU defense is pretty good. Not good enough to slow down a pass game like Okstate but maybe good enough to slow down a prolific run game like UT. 

    I originally had WVU SU in an early parlay, but I'm now on Texas. I don't think WVU can score enough or defend the run game well enough. 
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    I'm an OKstate fan and followed both.
    Texas has one of the best RB's in the nation. If he didn't get hurt vs OKst IDK if we pull that one off. 

    UT defense is still horrid 

    WVU is not the usual Holgerson offense. Their QB is average at best... no dominating players on the offensive side of the ball that stuck out to me. Average run game and really hate their QB, he just doesn't impress me. 

    WVU defense is pretty good. Not good enough to slow down a pass game like Okstate but maybe good enough to slow down a prolific run game like UT. 

    I originally had WVU SU in an early parlay, but I'm now on Texas. I don't think WVU can score enough or defend the run game well enough. 
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by shiek:

    Crap on Texas fans.  I am a Texas fan.   Haven't watched the games I've watched every game of UTs for the last 30 years.   The whole point of the fire charlie movement is how pathetic the mistakes have been  as u noted all the blown leads, 3 blocked extras, and 3 offsides penalties on first drive of Kan St game.     Im saying but for the coaching/inexperience they should be 8-1 (although arguably Baylor game was kind of handed to them).   Look at the Tech comparable.   W Va dominated the entire game (albeit mahomes should not have played) tx did the same thing after first quarter but due to the same stupid mistakes they let Tech back into game.

    I didn't take issue w anything u said other than shying away from betting w va because of Texas crazy fans/home field adv.  I've lived in Austin for 30 years and I've been to other big 12 stadiums/A &M and from my perspective UT fans are fair weathered and it is mild compared to the others.  Tx fans would rather sit at home and watch reruns of the 2006 USC game or drink at the stadium club than Get up at 11 and watch a team that is not meeting expectations.  I will confess that I haven't been 2 a game in a few yrs but my step daughter works the concession stands  and I watch every game and doubt it has.  Also, when watching the Baylor game last week several of us commented how a section of seats appeared to be empty.

    I'll just close by saying despite the shortcomings I'm pulling for strong because he is all class.   And as to those betting if W Va doesn't win Howard mistakes Are more likely to have been the cause then the UT fan base.

    I will passionately second this. 

    Texas fans are not loud, rowdy or intimidating. It is kind of like going to a mid July MLB game when your team is already out of it. I've been to every stadium in the Big 12 and can assure your their isn't much of a home field advantage. It's weird, I've always wondered why. 

    In college I had class with several Okstate linemen and asked them the toughest easiest places to play. Hands down, it was Tech as the worst road game and Texas as the easiest place to play. 

    The problem is, every team comes into Austin thinking "man this is Texas, big time stage" and really want to beat them. Especially big12 teams like Okstate who is 85% Texas native players who weren't offered by UT. So they play above and beyond like they have something to prove. On the flip, UT players have kind of been ho hum in recent years. Maybe an "entitlement" element of "we are texas who is this Okstate/WVU/KSU team" thinking they can come in here and win. 

    Texas athletics is one of the biggest enigmas in all of sports. Every single advantage and facility yet very few titles to show. At least not as many as the SHOULD have and Texas football is the best example besides mens basketball 














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    Crap on Texas fans.  I am a Texas fan.   Haven't watched the games I've watched every game of UTs for the last 30 years.   The whole point of the fire charlie movement is how pathetic the mistakes have been  as u noted all the blown leads, 3 blocked extras, and 3 offsides penalties on first drive of Kan St game.     Im saying but for the coaching/inexperience they should be 8-1 (although arguably Baylor game was kind of handed to them).   Look at the Tech comparable.   W Va dominated the entire game (albeit mahomes should not have played) tx did the same thing after first quarter but due to the same stupid mistakes they let Tech back into game.

    I didn't take issue w anything u said other than shying away from betting w va because of Texas crazy fans/home field adv.  I've lived in Austin for 30 years and I've been to other big 12 stadiums/A &M and from my perspective UT fans are fair weathered and it is mild compared to the others.  Tx fans would rather sit at home and watch reruns of the 2006 USC game or drink at the stadium club than Get up at 11 and watch a team that is not meeting expectations.  I will confess that I haven't been 2 a game in a few yrs but my step daughter works the concession stands  and I watch every game and doubt it has.  Also, when watching the Baylor game last week several of us commented how a section of seats appeared to be empty.

    I'll just close by saying despite the shortcomings I'm pulling for strong because he is all class.   And as to those betting if W Va doesn't win Howard mistakes Are more likely to have been the cause then the UT fan base.

    I will passionately second this. 

    Texas fans are not loud, rowdy or intimidating. It is kind of like going to a mid July MLB game when your team is already out of it. I've been to every stadium in the Big 12 and can assure your their isn't much of a home field advantage. It's weird, I've always wondered why. 

    In college I had class with several Okstate linemen and asked them the toughest easiest places to play. Hands down, it was Tech as the worst road game and Texas as the easiest place to play. 

    The problem is, every team comes into Austin thinking "man this is Texas, big time stage" and really want to beat them. Especially big12 teams like Okstate who is 85% Texas native players who weren't offered by UT. So they play above and beyond like they have something to prove. On the flip, UT players have kind of been ho hum in recent years. Maybe an "entitlement" element of "we are texas who is this Okstate/WVU/KSU team" thinking they can come in here and win. 

    Texas athletics is one of the biggest enigmas in all of sports. Every single advantage and facility yet very few titles to show. At least not as many as the SHOULD have and Texas football is the best example besides mens basketball 














     
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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Great stuff Johnny.

    Based on all that, there is no chance you'll be playing the Longhorns. It's Texas or a no-play. I mean, in that entire write-up you didn't have a single positive thing to say about Texas.

    So why do we fear them? This Charlie Strong mystique. The home game. Folks, Oklahoma was a must win, coming in on a two game losing streak, for Texas and that was a defacto home game. Loss. Gave up almost 50 points. Gave up almost 700 yards of offense. In a must win. And OK isn't all that good this year in comparison to prior years! WV simply isn't going to give up the scores and yards OK gave up. What D has Texas faced that's like this one? None.

    And in hindsight, look how unimpressive that Notre Dame game looks now! And Texas fans were falling all over themselves like they just won the championship that night! The Almighty Irish!!! That team lost to DUKE at HOME. Lol!



    Thanks Scal, just wanted to offer some insight and follow up on some extra points before the game Saturday. First of all, I did want to clarify I've only gotten to watch 3 full Texas games this season so I can't give as good of insight on the Longhorns as others here. I will say this:

    This game is going to be the biggest cat and mouse game since Tom & Jerry

    Holgorsen is calling this "the toughest running game we've faced all year" and I don't disagree. BYU had a bruiser of a tailback that had success on the Mountaineers 3-3-5 defense, and Foreman looks to be in that same class and better. Combine that with a dose of Tyrone Swoopes and WVU finds themselves in unfamiliar territory defensively. If they have success early and force WVU to bring in their coverage to stop the run, there will be shots taken down the field and really test the secondary.

    Hearing quotes throughout the week from Mountaineer players saying "we're not scared of them" and some calling this "the biggest game of the year" lets me know their focus is on this game and not next week with Oklahoma, and why shouldnt it be?
    The Mountaineers have a viable path to the Big 12 Championship, with games against both the Sooners and the Baylor Bears in chilly Morgantown.

    The Longhorns on the other hand? Bowl Eligibility, la di freakin da
    Charlie Strong himself this week while excited about bowl eligibility stated hes hoping to build on momentum and also wants bowl eligibility for his seniors (Guys, they play Kansas next week and they know they'll become bowl eligibile)

    On a more personal note, Senior QB Skyler Howard recalls sneaking into DKR at night time in as a kid, idolizing Vince Young and the Texas greats. You can bet he wants this victory in Texas after getting snubbed from his home team.

    Were my Mountaineers overrated at #10 and have aspirations of playoff crashers? but the key word of aspiration is what might make the difference in this one. I'm still anxious to see the intensity and emotional state of this team as I don't take much away from the Kansas victory. But lets not also forget an impressive offensive stat that has led to a successful 2016 campaign:

    WVU is one of only two football programs ranked in the top 30 nationally in passing (26th) and rushing (28th). The other is Louisville

    The status of running back Rushel Shell has gone from game time decision, to a full participant in practice, thus leaving me to believe he will be a go. The cupboard is not empty if he is still limited.

    I believe this is the biggest game of the year for the Mountaineers, and if they truly believe this as well, I see us coming away with a victory. If the running game of Texas is successful early, this game could be a toss up. Waiting on a preferential line and either making a play on WVU or nothing.

    Best of luck to everyone on this weekends plays

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    Quote Originally Posted by scalabrine:

    Great stuff Johnny.

    Based on all that, there is no chance you'll be playing the Longhorns. It's Texas or a no-play. I mean, in that entire write-up you didn't have a single positive thing to say about Texas.

    So why do we fear them? This Charlie Strong mystique. The home game. Folks, Oklahoma was a must win, coming in on a two game losing streak, for Texas and that was a defacto home game. Loss. Gave up almost 50 points. Gave up almost 700 yards of offense. In a must win. And OK isn't all that good this year in comparison to prior years! WV simply isn't going to give up the scores and yards OK gave up. What D has Texas faced that's like this one? None.

    And in hindsight, look how unimpressive that Notre Dame game looks now! And Texas fans were falling all over themselves like they just won the championship that night! The Almighty Irish!!! That team lost to DUKE at HOME. Lol!



    Thanks Scal, just wanted to offer some insight and follow up on some extra points before the game Saturday. First of all, I did want to clarify I've only gotten to watch 3 full Texas games this season so I can't give as good of insight on the Longhorns as others here. I will say this:

    This game is going to be the biggest cat and mouse game since Tom & Jerry

    Holgorsen is calling this "the toughest running game we've faced all year" and I don't disagree. BYU had a bruiser of a tailback that had success on the Mountaineers 3-3-5 defense, and Foreman looks to be in that same class and better. Combine that with a dose of Tyrone Swoopes and WVU finds themselves in unfamiliar territory defensively. If they have success early and force WVU to bring in their coverage to stop the run, there will be shots taken down the field and really test the secondary.

    Hearing quotes throughout the week from Mountaineer players saying "we're not scared of them" and some calling this "the biggest game of the year" lets me know their focus is on this game and not next week with Oklahoma, and why shouldnt it be?
    The Mountaineers have a viable path to the Big 12 Championship, with games against both the Sooners and the Baylor Bears in chilly Morgantown.

    The Longhorns on the other hand? Bowl Eligibility, la di freakin da
    Charlie Strong himself this week while excited about bowl eligibility stated hes hoping to build on momentum and also wants bowl eligibility for his seniors (Guys, they play Kansas next week and they know they'll become bowl eligibile)

    On a more personal note, Senior QB Skyler Howard recalls sneaking into DKR at night time in as a kid, idolizing Vince Young and the Texas greats. You can bet he wants this victory in Texas after getting snubbed from his home team.

    Were my Mountaineers overrated at #10 and have aspirations of playoff crashers? but the key word of aspiration is what might make the difference in this one. I'm still anxious to see the intensity and emotional state of this team as I don't take much away from the Kansas victory. But lets not also forget an impressive offensive stat that has led to a successful 2016 campaign:

    WVU is one of only two football programs ranked in the top 30 nationally in passing (26th) and rushing (28th). The other is Louisville

    The status of running back Rushel Shell has gone from game time decision, to a full participant in practice, thus leaving me to believe he will be a go. The cupboard is not empty if he is still limited.

    I believe this is the biggest game of the year for the Mountaineers, and if they truly believe this as well, I see us coming away with a victory. If the running game of Texas is successful early, this game could be a toss up. Waiting on a preferential line and either making a play on WVU or nothing.

    Best of luck to everyone on this weekends plays

     
     
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