I agree with you and that's what worries me the most. Are we thinking this way because we are Buckeye fans and have been on the opposite side of SEC National Championship wins? Or does this help make us think more realistically?
I agree with you and that's what worries me the most. Are we thinking this way because we are Buckeye fans and have been on the opposite side of SEC National Championship wins? Or does this help make us think more realistically?
Sean, the line is still steady at 5.5. Pinnacle is offering 7.5 at -151.
Sean, the line is still steady at 5.5. Pinnacle is offering 7.5 at -151.
maldini not trying to pick on you here, but a couple of your points just dont sit right with me. First of all, you said Florida has one returing starer from 2 years ago. you do realize college is only 4 years long right? If you used this logic in the beginning of the season i could see it, but now? seriously? what the hell does 2 years ago have to do with a florida team that has been running through everybody since their loss? Do you know what kind of players a program like this gets?
second, you said picking teams bc of a better conference is stupid, but now your basing thoughts off of who played more top 25 teams...oh yeah of those top 25 teams that OU beat...TCU barely beat a wac team, Cincy got rolled by V Tech for gods sake, Okla St lost, Tex tech got rolled by the only team to eek out a victory over florida, and mizzou should have lost to northwestern....
i admire your allegiance to the big 12 but your in for a big awakening tonight. GL man
maldini not trying to pick on you here, but a couple of your points just dont sit right with me. First of all, you said Florida has one returing starer from 2 years ago. you do realize college is only 4 years long right? If you used this logic in the beginning of the season i could see it, but now? seriously? what the hell does 2 years ago have to do with a florida team that has been running through everybody since their loss? Do you know what kind of players a program like this gets?
second, you said picking teams bc of a better conference is stupid, but now your basing thoughts off of who played more top 25 teams...oh yeah of those top 25 teams that OU beat...TCU barely beat a wac team, Cincy got rolled by V Tech for gods sake, Okla St lost, Tex tech got rolled by the only team to eek out a victory over florida, and mizzou should have lost to northwestern....
i admire your allegiance to the big 12 but your in for a big awakening tonight. GL man
maldini not trying to pick on you here, but a couple of your points just dont sit right with me. First of all, you said Florida has one returing starer from 2 years ago. you do realize college is only 4 years long right? If you used this logic in the beginning of the season i could see it, but now? seriously? what the hell does 2 years ago have to do with a florida team that has been running through everybody since their loss? Do you know what kind of players a program like this gets?
second, you said picking teams bc of a better conference is stupid, but now your basing thoughts off of who played more top 25 teams...oh yeah of those top 25 teams that OU beat...TCU barely beat a wac team, Cincy got rolled by V Tech for gods sake, Okla St lost, Tex tech got rolled by the only team to eek out a victory over florida, and mizzou should have lost to northwestern....
i admire your allegiance to the big 12 but your in for a big awakening tonight. GL man
Dutchman, I have no allegiance to the Big 12. I bet against Ok St., Mizzou, Texas and Texas Tech. I bet on Kansas and Nebraska. Let's just say that the Big 12 has been very good to me during the bowl season.
The point I made about Florida's lone returning starter has to do with styles. I've seen lots of comments about OU not being able to handle Florida's D. Well, Florida doesn't have one starter that remains from that title team. This Florida D plays much differently. The 2006 team's strength was their pass rush. This team's strenght is depth and solid LBs. I just don't expect Florida to get to Bradford enough to make a huge difference in the game.
I pointed out that OU has the tougher strength of schedule because people like you are banging on the SEC. But it seems that OU played the harder schedule, week in and week out.
We obviously don't know how this is going to play out. But I like what I've seen from OU. And I really like that they're getting 5.5 points now and it could go up even more before kickoff.
Best of luck to you. If/when Florida covers tonight you can tell me that I'm a moron. It won't be the first time.
maldini not trying to pick on you here, but a couple of your points just dont sit right with me. First of all, you said Florida has one returing starer from 2 years ago. you do realize college is only 4 years long right? If you used this logic in the beginning of the season i could see it, but now? seriously? what the hell does 2 years ago have to do with a florida team that has been running through everybody since their loss? Do you know what kind of players a program like this gets?
second, you said picking teams bc of a better conference is stupid, but now your basing thoughts off of who played more top 25 teams...oh yeah of those top 25 teams that OU beat...TCU barely beat a wac team, Cincy got rolled by V Tech for gods sake, Okla St lost, Tex tech got rolled by the only team to eek out a victory over florida, and mizzou should have lost to northwestern....
i admire your allegiance to the big 12 but your in for a big awakening tonight. GL man
Dutchman, I have no allegiance to the Big 12. I bet against Ok St., Mizzou, Texas and Texas Tech. I bet on Kansas and Nebraska. Let's just say that the Big 12 has been very good to me during the bowl season.
The point I made about Florida's lone returning starter has to do with styles. I've seen lots of comments about OU not being able to handle Florida's D. Well, Florida doesn't have one starter that remains from that title team. This Florida D plays much differently. The 2006 team's strength was their pass rush. This team's strenght is depth and solid LBs. I just don't expect Florida to get to Bradford enough to make a huge difference in the game.
I pointed out that OU has the tougher strength of schedule because people like you are banging on the SEC. But it seems that OU played the harder schedule, week in and week out.
We obviously don't know how this is going to play out. But I like what I've seen from OU. And I really like that they're getting 5.5 points now and it could go up even more before kickoff.
Best of luck to you. If/when Florida covers tonight you can tell me that I'm a moron. It won't be the first time.
maldini not trying to pick on you here, but a couple of your points just dont sit right with me. First of all, you said Florida has one returing starer from 2 years ago. you do realize college is only 4 years long right? If you used this logic in the beginning of the season i could see it, but now? seriously? what the hell does 2 years ago have to do with a florida team that has been running through everybody since their loss? Do you know what kind of players a program like this gets?
second, you said picking teams bc of a better conference is stupid, but now your basing thoughts off of who played more top 25 teams...oh yeah of those top 25 teams that OU beat...TCU barely beat a wac team, Cincy got rolled by V Tech for gods sake, Okla St lost, Tex tech got rolled by the only team to eek out a victory over florida, and mizzou should have lost to northwestern....
i admire your allegiance to the big 12 but your in for a big awakening tonight. GL man
And don't forget Alabama, the lost to Florida by 11 and then got embarrassed, and I mean embarrassed by the only undefeated team in the country. Think of all those guys who had the Bama and the ML...they all thought it was a done deal and ended up losing.
Most everyone on these boards felt the same about Texas and Ohio State...and many here feel the same about Florida rolling OU. I'll be honest and say I have no allegiance to either school and I am actually leaning towards Florida.
Then I ask myself, "Why do you like
Then there is the Heisman data that prostuntman presented...
Heisman winners are a combined 2-9 in bowl games involving No. 1 vs. No. 2.
In bowl games between No. 1 vs. No. 2 in The Associated Press poll, Heisman winners are 2-7.
In national title games involving teams ranked 1-2 in the BCS standings, Heisman winners are 0-2.
All told, Heisman winners have won 22 bowl games and lost 26. They have lost three straight and six of the last eight.
This doesn’t look like a good scenario for OU. Both the sharps and public are all over the Gators, so, all this money on one side makes gravitate towards OU plus the points.
Admittedly, I bet a lot of DOGS and UNDERS and it doesn't always work out well but I've done well the past year. Do I wait to see if this line get to 6 or 6.5 and buy it up to 7 and take the Sooners or get it now at 5.5 and take the Gators? Most of the Sharps took this at -3, -3.5, and -4. The public jumped on board and moved it to where it is now. Is this a line that Vegas middles?
maldini not trying to pick on you here, but a couple of your points just dont sit right with me. First of all, you said Florida has one returing starer from 2 years ago. you do realize college is only 4 years long right? If you used this logic in the beginning of the season i could see it, but now? seriously? what the hell does 2 years ago have to do with a florida team that has been running through everybody since their loss? Do you know what kind of players a program like this gets?
second, you said picking teams bc of a better conference is stupid, but now your basing thoughts off of who played more top 25 teams...oh yeah of those top 25 teams that OU beat...TCU barely beat a wac team, Cincy got rolled by V Tech for gods sake, Okla St lost, Tex tech got rolled by the only team to eek out a victory over florida, and mizzou should have lost to northwestern....
i admire your allegiance to the big 12 but your in for a big awakening tonight. GL man
And don't forget Alabama, the lost to Florida by 11 and then got embarrassed, and I mean embarrassed by the only undefeated team in the country. Think of all those guys who had the Bama and the ML...they all thought it was a done deal and ended up losing.
Most everyone on these boards felt the same about Texas and Ohio State...and many here feel the same about Florida rolling OU. I'll be honest and say I have no allegiance to either school and I am actually leaning towards Florida.
Then I ask myself, "Why do you like
Then there is the Heisman data that prostuntman presented...
Heisman winners are a combined 2-9 in bowl games involving No. 1 vs. No. 2.
In bowl games between No. 1 vs. No. 2 in The Associated Press poll, Heisman winners are 2-7.
In national title games involving teams ranked 1-2 in the BCS standings, Heisman winners are 0-2.
All told, Heisman winners have won 22 bowl games and lost 26. They have lost three straight and six of the last eight.
This doesn’t look like a good scenario for OU. Both the sharps and public are all over the Gators, so, all this money on one side makes gravitate towards OU plus the points.
Admittedly, I bet a lot of DOGS and UNDERS and it doesn't always work out well but I've done well the past year. Do I wait to see if this line get to 6 or 6.5 and buy it up to 7 and take the Sooners or get it now at 5.5 and take the Gators? Most of the Sharps took this at -3, -3.5, and -4. The public jumped on board and moved it to where it is now. Is this a line that Vegas middles?
Come on dude. I asked a good question. I haven't seen evidence that the sharps have a big preference one way or the other. What I've seen is that the public is the one driving the line. I'd like to be on the side of the sharps more often than not. But at this point I don't see them going big on either team.
Come on dude. I asked a good question. I haven't seen evidence that the sharps have a big preference one way or the other. What I've seen is that the public is the one driving the line. I'd like to be on the side of the sharps more often than not. But at this point I don't see them going big on either team.
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