I am not a huge sports gambler and I use a local. He contracts with a internet site (agent I guess you call him). I am offered most lines: team totals, 1/2 times, soccer, UFC, everything but live betting. I pay him and he pays me directly (cash). I was given 5K credit in my account, his money not mine. My juice may be a bit higher: baseball: -105, totals,5 inning -110, football: -110 totals 1/2 times and sides. The less standard bets -115.
I have never used a online sportsbook and not as experienced as most of you, but am wondering why would anyone use one? Seems like a lot of issues with getting paid, govt seizing funds, sportsbook stealing, sportsbooks being difficult, a lot of hassles funding and withdrawing, govt gaining access to your financial records, complaints about the service. I dont see much advantage here and a lot of risk and hassle.
Why do you use an online book: is it the bonuses, reduced juice, more options, live betting, cant find a local? With all the negativity I read about these online sportsbook, not sure why pepole use them, as I am very happy about my option.
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I am not a huge sports gambler and I use a local. He contracts with a internet site (agent I guess you call him). I am offered most lines: team totals, 1/2 times, soccer, UFC, everything but live betting. I pay him and he pays me directly (cash). I was given 5K credit in my account, his money not mine. My juice may be a bit higher: baseball: -105, totals,5 inning -110, football: -110 totals 1/2 times and sides. The less standard bets -115.
I have never used a online sportsbook and not as experienced as most of you, but am wondering why would anyone use one? Seems like a lot of issues with getting paid, govt seizing funds, sportsbook stealing, sportsbooks being difficult, a lot of hassles funding and withdrawing, govt gaining access to your financial records, complaints about the service. I dont see much advantage here and a lot of risk and hassle.
Why do you use an online book: is it the bonuses, reduced juice, more options, live betting, cant find a local? With all the negativity I read about these online sportsbook, not sure why pepole use them, as I am very happy about my option.
Online has much more options.... if u have several books u can get the best lines with the lowest juice. U can place a wager anytime anyplace. Live betting is a nice feature.
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Online has much more options.... if u have several books u can get the best lines with the lowest juice. U can place a wager anytime anyplace. Live betting is a nice feature.
I would love to have a local option, I've never had one, but, generally speaking, I like the option of gambling on my own with the money that is in my account. I couldn't even find a local if I wanted to.
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I would love to have a local option, I've never had one, but, generally speaking, I like the option of gambling on my own with the money that is in my account. I couldn't even find a local if I wanted to.
My local is via internet convienent, offers parlays, teasers and all those gimicks. I guess the one draw back I am seeing is lack of ability to shop lines.
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My local is via internet convienent, offers parlays, teasers and all those gimicks. I guess the one draw back I am seeing is lack of ability to shop lines.
There are drawbacks and benefits to both. Local could stiff you as easily as online book could. I had a local do that once and have used online since. 5dimes has paid me everytime :D
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There are drawbacks and benefits to both. Local could stiff you as easily as online book could. I had a local do that once and have used online since. 5dimes has paid me everytime :D
I am not a huge sports gambler and I use a local. He contracts with a internet site (agent I guess you call him). I am offered most lines: team totals, 1/2 times, soccer, UFC, everything but live betting. I pay him and he pays me directly (cash). I was given 5K credit in my account, his money not mine. My juice may be a bit higher: baseball: -105, totals,5 inning -110, football: -110 totals 1/2 times and sides. The less standard bets -115.
I have never used a online sportsbook and not as experienced as most of you, but am wondering why would anyone use one? Seems like a lot of issues with getting paid, govt seizing funds, sportsbook stealing, sportsbooks being difficult, a lot of hassles funding and withdrawing, govt gaining access to your financial records, complaints about the service. I dont see much advantage here and a lot of risk and hassle.
Why do you use an online book: is it the bonuses, reduced juice, more options, live betting, cant find a local? With all the negativity I read about these online sportsbook, not sure why pepole use them, as I am very happy about my option.
Have never heard of a local in my area ever giving out the options you are talking about.Usually it foots, baseball and nba. I will say though I have not used a local in almost 10 years,things may have changed, Have always liked everything better about online {can't lose more than your balance is one good thing} Payment and deposit issues have now got everybody rethinking
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Quote Originally Posted by buxwin:
I am not a huge sports gambler and I use a local. He contracts with a internet site (agent I guess you call him). I am offered most lines: team totals, 1/2 times, soccer, UFC, everything but live betting. I pay him and he pays me directly (cash). I was given 5K credit in my account, his money not mine. My juice may be a bit higher: baseball: -105, totals,5 inning -110, football: -110 totals 1/2 times and sides. The less standard bets -115.
I have never used a online sportsbook and not as experienced as most of you, but am wondering why would anyone use one? Seems like a lot of issues with getting paid, govt seizing funds, sportsbook stealing, sportsbooks being difficult, a lot of hassles funding and withdrawing, govt gaining access to your financial records, complaints about the service. I dont see much advantage here and a lot of risk and hassle.
Why do you use an online book: is it the bonuses, reduced juice, more options, live betting, cant find a local? With all the negativity I read about these online sportsbook, not sure why pepole use them, as I am very happy about my option.
Have never heard of a local in my area ever giving out the options you are talking about.Usually it foots, baseball and nba. I will say though I have not used a local in almost 10 years,things may have changed, Have always liked everything better about online {can't lose more than your balance is one good thing} Payment and deposit issues have now got everybody rethinking
buxwin, you are in the minority with your local setup. You have a good selection of games and you're not really paying juice that is above the norm, especially for a brick-&-mortar/local.
You listed all the reasons that people use an online book.... the most obvious being that bookmaking is illegal so unless you have connections, you have to actively seek out a bookie.
It's easy to fund online and dealing with the major books, I have never had a payout issue.
Also, I can bet on everything and anything.
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buxwin, you are in the minority with your local setup. You have a good selection of games and you're not really paying juice that is above the norm, especially for a brick-&-mortar/local.
You listed all the reasons that people use an online book.... the most obvious being that bookmaking is illegal so unless you have connections, you have to actively seek out a bookie.
It's easy to fund online and dealing with the major books, I have never had a payout issue.
i never dealt witha local but u can drive ur ass to his place and pick up cash. oversea books you have to wait for you check to come in the mail. it takes atleast a week to a month
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i never dealt witha local but u can drive ur ass to his place and pick up cash. oversea books you have to wait for you check to come in the mail. it takes atleast a week to a month
Because it's easier, that's why. Maybe not for you, but for many people.
If they seize enough sportsbooks, people will use more locals. It'll start a new crime wave, because the locals have to come from somewhere. Maybe we can start up the mob dominance again lol
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Because it's easier, that's why. Maybe not for you, but for many people.
If they seize enough sportsbooks, people will use more locals. It'll start a new crime wave, because the locals have to come from somewhere. Maybe we can start up the mob dominance again lol
buxwin, many guys in this forum have talked about this, answering your question as to why it's better to bet online. However, you are definitely onto a good idea.....IF, as somebody already alluded to, you have a local with the options you have available to you. I don't, and I would venture to guess 90% of the guys here do not as well.
But, perhaps you've heard of this guy called Vanzack. He has stated that the days of getting good line value and multiple outs online and getting down with ease and transferring funds with little interference are LONG GONE. So your points are well taken.
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buxwin, many guys in this forum have talked about this, answering your question as to why it's better to bet online. However, you are definitely onto a good idea.....IF, as somebody already alluded to, you have a local with the options you have available to you. I don't, and I would venture to guess 90% of the guys here do not as well.
But, perhaps you've heard of this guy called Vanzack. He has stated that the days of getting good line value and multiple outs online and getting down with ease and transferring funds with little interference are LONG GONE. So your points are well taken.
I should have said, UNLESS....instead of IF...when comparing the two options. Bottom line is most people don't have a local that is A) dependable....and B) has betting options....let alone C) does all sports
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I should have said, UNLESS....instead of IF...when comparing the two options. Bottom line is most people don't have a local that is A) dependable....and B) has betting options....let alone C) does all sports
Great. I think I'll wait to see how the off shore pans out rather than having to chase Vinnie when he feels like paying out. A blogger above said it best. Killing the off shore is about tax money AND about the influence of what's left of organized crime and their scum bag ways.
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Great. I think I'll wait to see how the off shore pans out rather than having to chase Vinnie when he feels like paying out. A blogger above said it best. Killing the off shore is about tax money AND about the influence of what's left of organized crime and their scum bag ways.
The more sportsbooks and poker sites are indicted, the more opportunites are created for the local bookie business to flourish. Can the morons who run Federal & State Government read a book on Prohibition and figure it out?
With 500 LEGALIZED and TAXED lottery games..don't think we have numbers rackets anymore?
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The more sportsbooks and poker sites are indicted, the more opportunites are created for the local bookie business to flourish. Can the morons who run Federal & State Government read a book on Prohibition and figure it out?
With 500 LEGALIZED and TAXED lottery games..don't think we have numbers rackets anymore?
Do you dabble in other minor illicit activities? Marijuana, steroids, prostitution etc connections here can usually hook you up. If not, sports bars are another good spot. Look for the guy cheering and tense when the outcome of the game is determined, but totals, sides are still in play.
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Quote Originally Posted by jbiggs1983:
Best way to find a local? I live in Newport.
Do you dabble in other minor illicit activities? Marijuana, steroids, prostitution etc connections here can usually hook you up. If not, sports bars are another good spot. Look for the guy cheering and tense when the outcome of the game is determined, but totals, sides are still in play.
Doesn't Buxwin sound like a Fed with all those ?'s. Who's your local can we use him hook us up. Has to be some kickback for you considering all this business you can drum up. How do you know govt can seize our financial winnings from a online sportsbook every detail record. A sportsbook would give us up like that DAMN. Any experience with that MY MAN..
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Doesn't Buxwin sound like a Fed with all those ?'s. Who's your local can we use him hook us up. Has to be some kickback for you considering all this business you can drum up. How do you know govt can seize our financial winnings from a online sportsbook every detail record. A sportsbook would give us up like that DAMN. Any experience with that MY MAN..
So if your Local contracts with the Internet site..What's the difference?
Do you think he works for free? He keeps part of the juice you pay for his services. If you choose a solid online Sportsbook you will not have any withdrawal problems and a hell of a lot more betting options(including in the middle of the night) like Euro Tennis or Soccer. I doubt you will be calling your "LOCAL" at 4 am asking him what the spread is CSKA Mosow is...
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So if your Local contracts with the Internet site..What's the difference?
Do you think he works for free? He keeps part of the juice you pay for his services. If you choose a solid online Sportsbook you will not have any withdrawal problems and a hell of a lot more betting options(including in the middle of the night) like Euro Tennis or Soccer. I doubt you will be calling your "LOCAL" at 4 am asking him what the spread is CSKA Mosow is...
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