Asking for acceptance

Quote Originally Posted by ProtoStar:

Let me take this layup about the Penn and Teller thing.  For those of you who don't know I am a Christian.

The fist thing I want to point out is that the Bible is not in chronological order.  I have a chronologically ordered Bible as well as 2 or 3 regular Bibles.

Penn and Teller are very misinformed and neither is very smart.  I quit listening after the second part where the "expert" they bring in talks about Genesis and then Noah's ark.  He says that in the first chapter God creates both man and woman at the same.  Well, no it doesnt.

I have the Bible in my lap, it doesn't say any such thing.  It says in Genesis 1 verse 27: "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

Where in does it say he created them at the same time?  It doesn't.  It only says that God created man and woman in his image.  Penn and Teller's expert claims it does.  Strike 1.

In Chapter 2 it simply goes into detail of how man and woman were created.  They were not created at the same time.  Chapter 2 explains it in verse 22.

So now that Penn and Teller have been humiliated after the first point they made, let me talk about the 2nd point, Noah's ark.  This is the last totally invalid point I will debunk using another website or 2.   

Noah's ark

Noah's ark 2

There are also literally tens of thousands of other sources out there giving you a clear picture of how it happened. 

So the first 2 points they make with their expert are totally invalid. 

I'm not going further with those clowns.

This thread was not made to be a religious thread, there are other threads about religion I have posted in.  I will not respond to any more posts about religion in this thread.  I will tell you this.

There is not 1 thing in the Bible that has been dis-proven by science. 

For those of you who know anything about science and don't believe in God then explain these questions.  Where did the first atom come from?  How did the electron get its negative charge and the proton its positive charge?  How did all the forces in the universe like gravity get set into motion?  The big bang had to be caused by something.  Steven Hawkins tried to give a possible explanation recently for these questions but his answer included the force of gravity as something that has always been there!  No Steven, forces do not appear out of thin air unless you have a God present.

There has to be an original creator, a God.  There is on other possible explanation for where the first "things" came from. 

Science backs up what is said in the Bible.   







 

Quote Originally Posted by ProtoStar:

slik I am going by science.  That says every cell comes from other living cells.  Where did the first cell come from?  Well it could have come from an almost impossible perfect combination of the right atoms and molecules.  Fair enough.  But where did the first atom or particle of matter come from?  Maybe God didn't make it, but in the end there has to have been an originator.  If God didn't create the first particle of matter then he created the creator of the first particle of matter.  Or the creator of the creator.  And so on if you want to keep going, eventually you have to have an original energy, a God.  From what it says in the Bible, God created the first particle of matter.  Scientists call this the big bang.

Your logic only validates my point even more slik.  There has to be an originator. 

For you to ask the question.."who created God?"  Is to admit there is a God and to at the same time contradict your admission by asking a question that reads "who created the original creator?", which makes no sense.

Guys this is my arena here, you cant shoot the dirt better than the original dirt shooter.

Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

I HATE PHONY CHRISTIANS

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kkHarZHrWJE
 

Quote Originally Posted by ProtoStar:

Let me take this layup about the Penn and Teller thing.  For those of you who don't know I am a Christian.

The fist thing I want to point out is that the Bible is not in chronological order.  I have a chronologically ordered Bible as well as 2 or 3 regular Bibles.

Penn and Teller are very misinformed and neither is very smart.  I quit listening after the second part where the "expert" they bring in talks about Genesis and then Noah's ark.  He says that in the first chapter God creates both man and woman at the same.  Well, no it doesnt.

I have the Bible in my lap, it doesn't say any such thing.  It says in Genesis 1 verse 27: "And God created man in His own image, in the image of God He created him; male and female He created them."

Where in does it say he created them at the same time?  It doesn't.  It only says that God created man and woman in his image.  Penn and Teller's expert claims it does.  Strike 1.

In Chapter 2 it simply goes into detail of how man and woman were created.  They were not created at the same time.  Chapter 2 explains it in verse 22.

So now that Penn and Teller have been humiliated after the first point they made, let me talk about the 2nd point, Noah's ark.  This is the last totally invalid point I will debunk using another website or 2.   

Noah's ark

Noah's ark 2

There are also literally tens of thousands of other sources out there giving you a clear picture of how it happened. 

So the first 2 points they make with their expert are totally invalid. 

I'm not going further with those clowns.

This thread was not made to be a religious thread, there are other threads about religion I have posted in.  I will not respond to any more posts about religion in this thread.  I will tell you this.

There is not 1 thing in the Bible that has been dis-proven by science. 

For those of you who know anything about science and don't believe in God then explain these questions.  Where did the first atom come from?  How did the electron get its negative charge and the proton its positive charge?  How did all the forces in the universe like gravity get set into motion?  The big bang had to be caused by something.  Steven Hawkins tried to give a possible explanation recently for these questions but his answer included the force of gravity as something that has always been there!  No Steven, forces do not appear out of thin air unless you have a God present.

There has to be an original creator, a God.  There is on other possible explanation for where the first "things" came from. 

Science backs up what is said in the Bible.   







 

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Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

proto watch the whole video....penn and teller are very intelligent......in genesis chapter one  of the kjv 1611 bible it says god created male and female nothing about the rib story...chapter talks about the rib story.....your noah's ark proof is absurd 16,000 animals rode on a 3 deck ark including the dinosaurs 4,000 years ago is not true.....the dinosaurs died out 65 million years ago.....instead of reading your kjv bible start reading some biology books

Quote Originally Posted by ProtoStar:



I have a minor in chemistry.  My GPA was 3.65.  I have taken many biology, anatomy, and physiology classes.  I was asked to take part in the honors program but declined because it required too much time out of my partying schedule.  Taking these college science classes strengthened my belief in a God and in particular Jesus Christ.

So what is your point about the rib story?  So what if it doesnt say anything about it in chapter 1?  It says it in chapter 2.  Read what I wrote man.  There are literally thousands of experts in boat construction of the time that will tell you it is possible for the ark to have been built.  And think about it, if God was part of it, couldn't he give it extra boost anyway? 

Did you even read the sources I gave you?

This is the last I am saying about it, Penn and Teller I doubt have IQ's of over 90.

Quote Originally Posted by CRRECORDS:

pro, every boat builder I have talked to says if you believe noah started buliding the ark when he was 480 years old and finished it when he was 600 years old you realy need to change your medication dosage.....penn and teller said you need immediate help for your delusion.