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    Chicago's murder rate soars 72% in 2016; shootings up more than 88%

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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 8:08 PM ET #26

    Quote Originally Posted by thorpe:


    Felons can't vote.  

    For now, the liberals are always working to change that...
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    Felons can't vote.  

    For now, the liberals are always working to change that...
     
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    Posted: Apr. 7, 2016 - 9:06 PM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by Getty3:


    Splendid!  In today's world every action is met with an over reaction and that snowball rolls into those who don't have the sense to stand aside and learn and think about it. Where did it come from? Why is it here? Is it really the snowballs fault? Or are we so self inflicted with selfishness that we only worry how it benefits me?

    I'm glad you get it.  How much of it is perspective.

    To me it's also about a culture of people taught not to take personal responsibility and accountability for their lives.

    You see them on here,  the really sad ones that blame the white/black man for all problems or partisan lemmings with no solutions other than scapegoating and blaming the other side for everything.


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    Splendid!  In today's world every action is met with an over reaction and that snowball rolls into those who don't have the sense to stand aside and learn and think about it. Where did it come from? Why is it here? Is it really the snowballs fault? Or are we so self inflicted with selfishness that we only worry how it benefits me?

    I'm glad you get it.  How much of it is perspective.

    To me it's also about a culture of people taught not to take personal responsibility and accountability for their lives.

    You see them on here,  the really sad ones that blame the white/black man for all problems or partisan lemmings with no solutions other than scapegoating and blaming the other side for everything.


     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 1:50 AM ET #28

    Look when a kid faces abject poverty with no chance . the Democrat or Republican have created this these young lives have no chance to become better their mom is living off the welfare daddy in jail and no job is available going to school in South Chicago is like walking through bagdad or Damascus. They see snnothy shady nice car alot of friends and plenty of loot... But in school they are screened a PD standing gaurd like they going into jail. No locker locks no text books made this century teacher checking the clock for the next smoke break. He begins to form ideas. darn this. I am going to make me some and move up by the lake.... Well he won't. He will probably be gunned down as he walks home. Tto his project where the dad of the day just give his mum a new shiner and drank the last of his look aid as he times the meth in the pipe. He wants out but no Oprah or her pet Obama going to make it happen..... Smooth shady going away for next ten all the courts fault. And another takes his place his bro slide going to get out through hip hop but no mowtown record going to here him.... All in a Democratic strong hold of Chicago today..... That kid who paßsed an ap calculus test today lies dead. Another the PD typed nhi no human involved. Best fnn score on ap calculus test in the country last year but Theadore Williams won't be attending college he been dead and buried for six week
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    Look when a kid faces abject poverty with no chance . the Democrat or Republican have created this these young lives have no chance to become better their mom is living off the welfare daddy in jail and no job is available going to school in South Chicago is like walking through bagdad or Damascus. They see snnothy shady nice car alot of friends and plenty of loot... But in school they are screened a PD standing gaurd like they going into jail. No locker locks no text books made this century teacher checking the clock for the next smoke break. He begins to form ideas. darn this. I am going to make me some and move up by the lake.... Well he won't. He will probably be gunned down as he walks home. Tto his project where the dad of the day just give his mum a new shiner and drank the last of his look aid as he times the meth in the pipe. He wants out but no Oprah or her pet Obama going to make it happen..... Smooth shady going away for next ten all the courts fault. And another takes his place his bro slide going to get out through hip hop but no mowtown record going to here him.... All in a Democratic strong hold of Chicago today..... That kid who paßsed an ap calculus test today lies dead. Another the PD typed nhi no human involved. Best fnn score on ap calculus test in the country last year but Theadore Williams won't be attending college he been dead and buried for six week
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 1:53 AM ET #29

    I statemmi am independent conservative and y'all can get after my spelling now.
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 2:55 AM ET #30

    That same story rings in most urban ghetto or barrios alllallll int the day ms gun free zones..... Guess gangland didn't get the memo but they could give a flying forni action of the law anyway. Can't buy a gun well get be in position to buy a three d printer and make one.... But they can all buy a gun anyway. Gun control is using both hands and hitting one shot one kill but why when you can blow a roll drive 100 rounds into a play ground costs 30 bucks and twenty bucks.....
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    That same story rings in most urban ghetto or barrios alllallll int the day ms gun free zones..... Guess gangland didn't get the memo but they could give a flying forni action of the law anyway. Can't buy a gun well get be in position to buy a three d printer and make one.... But they can all buy a gun anyway. Gun control is using both hands and hitting one shot one kill but why when you can blow a roll drive 100 rounds into a play ground costs 30 bucks and twenty bucks.....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 9:40 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Look when a kid faces abject poverty with no chance . the Democrat or Republican have created this these young lives have no chance to become better their mom is living off the welfare daddy in jail and no job is available going to school in South Chicago is like walking through bagdad or Damascus. They see snnothy shady nice car alot of friends and plenty of loot... But in school they are screened a PD standing gaurd like they going into jail. No locker locks no text books made this century teacher checking the clock for the next smoke break. He begins to form ideas. darn this. I am going to make me some and move up by the lake.... Well he won't. He will probably be gunned down as he walks home. Tto his project where the dad of the day just give his mum a new shiner and drank the last of his look aid as he times the meth in the pipe. He wants out but no Oprah or her pet Obama going to make it happen..... Smooth shady going away for next ten all the courts fault. And another takes his place his bro slide going to get out through hip hop but no mowtown record going to here him.... All in a Democratic strong hold of Chicago today..... That kid who paßsed an ap calculus test today lies dead. Another the PD typed nhi no human involved. Best fnn score on ap calculus test in the country last year but Theadore Williams won't be attending college he been dead and buried for six week

    So, I guess the solution is to keep sh!tting out the kids you can't afford, from degenerate "dads", keep this insane cycle going, and just let the state take care of the rest from welfare as a child to inprisonment as an adult......

    You know, I believe they still hand out condoms for free, and after that, there's still a "morning after" pill you can get, and even still after that, last time I checked, abortion is still legal in this country. Now, I would be fine with any of those three relatively cheap and easy solutions as opposed to creating yet another "Ghetto B@stard".
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    Look when a kid faces abject poverty with no chance . the Democrat or Republican have created this these young lives have no chance to become better their mom is living off the welfare daddy in jail and no job is available going to school in South Chicago is like walking through bagdad or Damascus. They see snnothy shady nice car alot of friends and plenty of loot... But in school they are screened a PD standing gaurd like they going into jail. No locker locks no text books made this century teacher checking the clock for the next smoke break. He begins to form ideas. darn this. I am going to make me some and move up by the lake.... Well he won't. He will probably be gunned down as he walks home. Tto his project where the dad of the day just give his mum a new shiner and drank the last of his look aid as he times the meth in the pipe. He wants out but no Oprah or her pet Obama going to make it happen..... Smooth shady going away for next ten all the courts fault. And another takes his place his bro slide going to get out through hip hop but no mowtown record going to here him.... All in a Democratic strong hold of Chicago today..... That kid who paßsed an ap calculus test today lies dead. Another the PD typed nhi no human involved. Best fnn score on ap calculus test in the country last year but Theadore Williams won't be attending college he been dead and buried for six week

    So, I guess the solution is to keep sh!tting out the kids you can't afford, from degenerate "dads", keep this insane cycle going, and just let the state take care of the rest from welfare as a child to inprisonment as an adult......

    You know, I believe they still hand out condoms for free, and after that, there's still a "morning after" pill you can get, and even still after that, last time I checked, abortion is still legal in this country. Now, I would be fine with any of those three relatively cheap and easy solutions as opposed to creating yet another "Ghetto B@stard".
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 9:58 AM ET #32

    Agreed. Makes me a terrible Republican though....cause abortion is bad.....
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 10:04 AM ET #33

    And such the absolute question for all the Bible thumping idiots. Is it better not to have been. Than to exist in such misery.
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    And such the absolute question for all the Bible thumping idiots. Is it better not to have been. Than to exist in such misery.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by nature1970:

    Agreed. Makes me a terrible Republican though....cause abortion is bad.....


    O.K., abortion might not be for everybody, but I just thought of something and now I'm P.O.'d....

    Seems like every time I turn on the T.V. there's a PSA about second hand smoke, fifth hand smoke, vaping, and I just saw one the other day about giving second hand smoke to your cat.... Really?!?! Your effing cat?!?! Who gives a sh!t!!!!!

    Anyways, how about a PSA that goes like this:

    "Hey kids are you between the ages of 12-19? Dad in prison or dead? Mom addicted to drugs/alcohol and you're living in a poor part of town off of a check the government sends you? Well good news! There's these things called condoms that you can get for free, you can still have sex with your loser boyfriend/girlfriend and not wind up a statistic!"

    **paid for by common sense**

    That's what should be running during "The Real Housewives Of The Kardashians".....
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    Agreed. Makes me a terrible Republican though....cause abortion is bad.....


    O.K., abortion might not be for everybody, but I just thought of something and now I'm P.O.'d....

    Seems like every time I turn on the T.V. there's a PSA about second hand smoke, fifth hand smoke, vaping, and I just saw one the other day about giving second hand smoke to your cat.... Really?!?! Your effing cat?!?! Who gives a sh!t!!!!!

    Anyways, how about a PSA that goes like this:

    "Hey kids are you between the ages of 12-19? Dad in prison or dead? Mom addicted to drugs/alcohol and you're living in a poor part of town off of a check the government sends you? Well good news! There's these things called condoms that you can get for free, you can still have sex with your loser boyfriend/girlfriend and not wind up a statistic!"

    **paid for by common sense**

    That's what should be running during "The Real Housewives Of The Kardashians".....
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 11:37 AM ET #35

    The continuing whirlpool of despair is promoted with government assistance - have 1 kid get $x, have 2 kids get $xx, 3 kids $xxx.
    It's a job to some of these queens.

    Here's a solution, your on government assistance, no kids by government administered birth control. You want your check, step over here for your implant. Now go out and fk everybody if you wish but we're not paying for anymore fatherless kids.

    Sounds extreme, but 762 shootings in 3 months call for an extreme solution.
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    The continuing whirlpool of despair is promoted with government assistance - have 1 kid get $x, have 2 kids get $xx, 3 kids $xxx.
    It's a job to some of these queens.

    Here's a solution, your on government assistance, no kids by government administered birth control. You want your check, step over here for your implant. Now go out and fk everybody if you wish but we're not paying for anymore fatherless kids.

    Sounds extreme, but 762 shootings in 3 months call for an extreme solution.
     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 1:29 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by GimmeMoneyNow:



    O.K., abortion might not be for everybody, but I just thought of something and now I'm P.O.'d....

    Seems like every time I turn on the T.V. there's a PSA about second hand smoke, fifth hand smoke, vaping, and I just saw one the other day about giving second hand smoke to your cat.... Really?!?! Your effing cat?!?! Who gives a sh!t!!!!!

    Anyways, how about a PSA that goes like this:

    "Hey kids are you between the ages of 12-19? Dad in prison or dead? Mom addicted to drugs/alcohol and you're living in a poor part of town off of a check the government sends you? Well good news! There's these things called condoms that you can get for free, you can still have sex with your loser boyfriend/girlfriend and not wind up a statistic!"

    **paid for by common sense**

    That's what should be running during "The Real Housewives Of The Kardashians".....

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    O.K., abortion might not be for everybody, but I just thought of something and now I'm P.O.'d....

    Seems like every time I turn on the T.V. there's a PSA about second hand smoke, fifth hand smoke, vaping, and I just saw one the other day about giving second hand smoke to your cat.... Really?!?! Your effing cat?!?! Who gives a sh!t!!!!!

    Anyways, how about a PSA that goes like this:

    "Hey kids are you between the ages of 12-19? Dad in prison or dead? Mom addicted to drugs/alcohol and you're living in a poor part of town off of a check the government sends you? Well good news! There's these things called condoms that you can get for free, you can still have sex with your loser boyfriend/girlfriend and not wind up a statistic!"

    **paid for by common sense**

    That's what should be running during "The Real Housewives Of The Kardashians".....

     
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    Posted: Apr. 8, 2016 - 10:23 PM ET #37

    Not everyone is for condoms, contraception and sexual education.

    It's always interesting how certain groups of people are for better health, better education, better choices and better America and how certain groups are absolutely hellbent on the opposite 


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    Not everyone is for condoms, contraception and sexual education.

    It's always interesting how certain groups of people are for better health, better education, better choices and better America and how certain groups are absolutely hellbent on the opposite 


     
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    Posted: Apr. 9, 2016 - 12:09 AM ET #38

    3 cops shot by people that shouldn't be walking the streets (I'm sure many of the non-partisans celebrate when a cop gets shot because you suffer from the disease of liberalism, the first symptom is denying it).

    Keep letting the animals among us out of their cages and innocents and cops get gunned down. Go Chicago! You reap what you sow...

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/08/chicagos-grim-murder-trend-blamed-on-light-sentencing-misguided-reforms.html?intcmp=hpbt3
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    3 cops shot by people that shouldn't be walking the streets (I'm sure many of the non-partisans celebrate when a cop gets shot because you suffer from the disease of liberalism, the first symptom is denying it).

    Keep letting the animals among us out of their cages and innocents and cops get gunned down. Go Chicago! You reap what you sow...

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/2016/04/08/chicagos-grim-murder-trend-blamed-on-light-sentencing-misguided-reforms.html?intcmp=hpbt3
     
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    Maybe I push it to a point of disgusting . but I don't have the ways or means to change this. The people who do won't they just pass the buck. Now I like the good people who go to church live a nice life and provide for their kids pay the bills ect. But they are so nieve to the misery and suffering maybe that is good. Maybe it isn't. But after the Democrats have been in charge of Chicago for a century.... Look where the city is today or any inner city you start to realize how empty those cute sound bites are. "It takes a community to raise a child " yah but a community are raising children. Look what's happening. " gun control we need to take more rights away from law abiding citizens to own a haand gun... Yah but to own a gun legally in Chicago is next to impossible ... The same rants. Get a job what job their a 500 person response if an opening at McDonald's restaurant in Chicago and. They work for min. I do they work for a pair of kicks given the opportunity ( like = high end sneakers such air Jordan's.) But these politicians don't get it I realized they never will.
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    Maybe I push it to a point of disgusting . but I don't have the ways or means to change this. The people who do won't they just pass the buck. Now I like the good people who go to church live a nice life and provide for their kids pay the bills ect. But they are so nieve to the misery and suffering maybe that is good. Maybe it isn't. But after the Democrats have been in charge of Chicago for a century.... Look where the city is today or any inner city you start to realize how empty those cute sound bites are. "It takes a community to raise a child " yah but a community are raising children. Look what's happening. " gun control we need to take more rights away from law abiding citizens to own a haand gun... Yah but to own a gun legally in Chicago is next to impossible ... The same rants. Get a job what job their a 500 person response if an opening at McDonald's restaurant in Chicago and. They work for min. I do they work for a pair of kicks given the opportunity ( like = high end sneakers such air Jordan's.) But these politicians don't get it I realized they never will.
     
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    What if a city has jobs for anyone healthy. You went inn go a broom and swept a side walk.for minimum wage. Or sorted trash to refuse and recycled materials. But owe no they rather spend A few million or a person feasibility study or a few bi?lion or Street sweepers or bigger more efficient garbage trucks. Any thing but give someone a few real dollars ina minimal job. Doing labor for pay.... Schools need bigger gym or a nicer auditorium.... It's a ongoing waste. Then after there failed policies are exposed it was so in so fault it was pre IOUs administration. Or PD fault ....it sickened me for years.
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    What if a city has jobs for anyone healthy. You went inn go a broom and swept a side walk.for minimum wage. Or sorted trash to refuse and recycled materials. But owe no they rather spend A few million or a person feasibility study or a few bi?lion or Street sweepers or bigger more efficient garbage trucks. Any thing but give someone a few real dollars ina minimal job. Doing labor for pay.... Schools need bigger gym or a nicer auditorium.... It's a ongoing waste. Then after there failed policies are exposed it was so in so fault it was pre IOUs administration. Or PD fault ....it sickened me for years.
     
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    In the US,when Roe vs Wade made legal abortion avaliable in the early 1970's,there was a generational wave and a sizeable decline in all crime in the early 1990's. The criminal class would rather abort a felon then feed/raise it to the mature age 18-20.
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    In the US,when Roe vs Wade made legal abortion avaliable in the early 1970's,there was a generational wave and a sizeable decline in all crime in the early 1990's. The criminal class would rather abort a felon then feed/raise it to the mature age 18-20.
     
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    I wonder if Chicago or Baltimore was run by Republicans and had open gun laws how loud the shrill from the Democrats and the media about the carnage and this proves that the policies of the Republicans don't work and large numbers of people are being killed, blah, blah, blah. It would be on 24/7...

    The shoe is on the other foot and this is acceptable... Not only is it acceptable, the dear leader released drug dealers from long prison sentences just last week and is on record saying that drug dealing is a non-violent offense. Really? How ridiculous is that position?
    It's the driving force in the Chicago war zones.

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    I wonder if Chicago or Baltimore was run by Republicans and had open gun laws how loud the shrill from the Democrats and the media about the carnage and this proves that the policies of the Republicans don't work and large numbers of people are being killed, blah, blah, blah. It would be on 24/7...

    The shoe is on the other foot and this is acceptable... Not only is it acceptable, the dear leader released drug dealers from long prison sentences just last week and is on record saying that drug dealing is a non-violent offense. Really? How ridiculous is that position?
    It's the driving force in the Chicago war zones.

     
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    Another prime example we have. Flint Michigan Micheal Moore home turf. The water is unsafe. The place is a living sess pool their are very few jobs and guess what it is a Democrat strong hold..... Other hand salt lake city..very little. Time plenty of work good opportunity why the Republican have been in charged. Seems we don't like to look at the obvious. To easy.
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    Another prime example we have. Flint Michigan Micheal Moore home turf. The water is unsafe. The place is a living sess pool their are very few jobs and guess what it is a Democrat strong hold..... Other hand salt lake city..very little. Time plenty of work good opportunity why the Republican have been in charged. Seems we don't like to look at the obvious. To easy.
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    I wonder if Chicago or Baltimore was run by Republicans and had open gun laws how loud the shrill from the Democrats and the media about the carnage and this proves that the policies of the Republicans don't work and large numbers of people are being killed, blah, blah, blah. It would be on 24/7...

    The shoe is on the other foot and this is acceptable... Not only is it acceptable, the dear leader released drug dealers from long prison sentences just last week and is on record saying that drug dealing is a non-violent offense. Really? How ridiculous is that position?
    It's the driving force in the Chicago war zones.



    It's weird how much partisan lemmings like this whine and cry. 

    Just blame the other race, the other side etc.  this is a truly a cultural warped those that believe in personal Responsibility and accountability and those that seek to create as many strawmen, scapegoats and excuses as possible 
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    Quote Originally Posted by Killer_B:

    I wonder if Chicago or Baltimore was run by Republicans and had open gun laws how loud the shrill from the Democrats and the media about the carnage and this proves that the policies of the Republicans don't work and large numbers of people are being killed, blah, blah, blah. It would be on 24/7...

    The shoe is on the other foot and this is acceptable... Not only is it acceptable, the dear leader released drug dealers from long prison sentences just last week and is on record saying that drug dealing is a non-violent offense. Really? How ridiculous is that position?
    It's the driving force in the Chicago war zones.



    It's weird how much partisan lemmings like this whine and cry. 

    Just blame the other race, the other side etc.  this is a truly a cultural warped those that believe in personal Responsibility and accountability and those that seek to create as many strawmen, scapegoats and excuses as possible 
     
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    Someone is at fault when U.S. cities turns into war zones, what does partisanship have to do with it? So what race is doing the killing here Debbie? It's not white Jehovah's Witnesses or Russian person...

    Start with identifying the problem and then attempt to do something about it.

    You have never made a valid argument against any point I've ever made - only because you can't.
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    Someone is at fault when U.S. cities turns into war zones, what does partisanship have to do with it? So what race is doing the killing here Debbie? It's not white Jehovah's Witnesses or Russian person...

    Start with identifying the problem and then attempt to do something about it.

    You have never made a valid argument against any point I've ever made - only because you can't.
     
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    You just don't get it. Lol
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    You just don't get it. Lol
     
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    What took so long for this?

    Certainly, racism is the bigger story in the police department not the daily shootouts & murders... Big shocker that minorities are arrested more than white people, conclusion is racism not that minorities commit more crimes. I'm waiting for legislation that states that for every minority arrested a white person must also be arrested, it's just fair...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/13/task-force-finds-chicago-police-has-been-plagued-racism/82996318/
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    What took so long for this?

    Certainly, racism is the bigger story in the police department not the daily shootouts & murders... Big shocker that minorities are arrested more than white people, conclusion is racism not that minorities commit more crimes. I'm waiting for legislation that states that for every minority arrested a white person must also be arrested, it's just fair...

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2016/04/13/task-force-finds-chicago-police-has-been-plagued-racism/82996318/
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by dl36:

    You just don't get it. Lol


    +1

    I swear it's like he goes out of his way to prove my point 
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    You just don't get it. Lol


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    I swear it's like he goes out of his way to prove my point 
     
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    The whole Black lives matter BS movement and all these protests have made the cops stop doing their jobs.  That's the bottom line.  These people want to be able to commit their crimes without resistance from the police.  They got their wish.  
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    The whole Black lives matter BS movement and all these protests have made the cops stop doing their jobs.  That's the bottom line.  These people want to be able to commit their crimes without resistance from the police.  They got their wish.  
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