If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

To KK and System, once and for all

Jesus Christ said "love one another as i have loved you"

Jesus also said, "if someone hits on the cheek, turn the other cheek"

Ok, once and for all.......if i went and murdered someone and then i said it is because of these words from Jesus......is just as rational as that Dodgers fan saying he murdered the Giants fan because the Dodgers main message is to kill others if they lose a game...

Complete utter rubbish......You want to somehow draw a rational reason as to why Christians kill but not to the dodgers fan...

Never seen such blind stupidity in my life...

If someone murders someone, it isnt because Christ teaches him to, you want to say that somehow the connection is valid.....

Your argument is a variation of the logical fallacy of confusing the currently unexplained with the unexplainable. Just because you cannot provide an answer to why these events happened doesnt mean that the events require a paranormal explaination and were an act of god.

I'm confident Rostos knows the meaning...it's just that when you use an analogy to make a point, it is very weak and so Rostos brings it to your attention by making another analogy and so why do you take everything he says literally?

Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

The Real Cost Of Religious Faith

watch the whole thing...

all what that guy is trying to do is warn them the implications of their belief.......If i saw a truck about to hit you, i would also warn / save you.....

This is the exact point of my whole discussion......Believers have a reason, even Matt said so, but thete is no reason for the atheist to try and convince others...

Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

then why are so many christians doing such crappy things?

like I said, they are getting these ideas from somewhere...

I dont know, it isnt because of Christ.

At the end of the day, if i went and murdered half my neighbourhood and when they ask me why i did it, and i say because of the Red Sox.....Does that mean the Red Sox are the cause? the fault?

Why do you believe connections between people saying irrational things, ie, i killed other because of Christ but you will disregard a comment that Dodgers fans kill because there team tell them to?

Wealth does the SAME thing.

I see rich people taking advantage of others, and dividing nations, causing wars etc etc, does that meam we should get rid of all rich people?

Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

you mean, what people think jesus might have looked like

according to the bible Jesus would look Nothing like the pictures the catholic church has, the guy would not be white or have long hair or even be good looking

How does one person take a message that says "do not murder" to go around killing people then saying i did it because of the message "do not murder"?

How?

is it the messages fault ? "do not murder?, should it be spelt differently? Is it easy to confuse with "you shoud murder".

All what you are doing is falling for peoples excuses.......

Thats the key, dont equivocate ereligions