KK, so by saying morals are not absolute, you have admitted in saying that there is at least 1 time and place where raping and murdering a little girl is ok?
Funny, becuase you leading atheists DISAGREE with you...
KK, so by saying morals are not absolute, you have admitted in saying that there is at least 1 time and place where raping and murdering a little girl is ok?
Funny, becuase you leading atheists DISAGREE with you...
KK, so by saying morals are not absolute, you have admitted in saying that there is at least 1 time and place where raping and murdering a little girl is ok?
Funny, becuase you leading atheists DISAGREE with you...
I am STILL WAITING FOR SOEMONE TO POINT OUT TO ME WHERE JESUS CHRIST TOLD US THAT YOU SHOULD KILL.
Where is it?
I might place a wager on the texas rangers tomorrow, why? Cause after reading the bible last night, i interpreted Gods message that i should be on the Rangers.........
If we want to be consistent with the people that kill in the name of religion, well, i am only being consistent, because just like the murder, i somehow found a message in the bible that Jesus told me to bet the Rangers..........
Oh and you know what, while we are equivocating, i am a manager at my workplace, there is one guy who comes in late often, I might just penalise the whole team because of him. No one else turns up late. I might just say that from covers members, i have learnt a new level of knowledge, just "put everyone" in the same boat for one persons behaviour....I am sure they will understand.
I am STILL WAITING FOR SOEMONE TO POINT OUT TO ME WHERE JESUS CHRIST TOLD US THAT YOU SHOULD KILL.
Where is it?
I might place a wager on the texas rangers tomorrow, why? Cause after reading the bible last night, i interpreted Gods message that i should be on the Rangers.........
If we want to be consistent with the people that kill in the name of religion, well, i am only being consistent, because just like the murder, i somehow found a message in the bible that Jesus told me to bet the Rangers..........
Oh and you know what, while we are equivocating, i am a manager at my workplace, there is one guy who comes in late often, I might just penalise the whole team because of him. No one else turns up late. I might just say that from covers members, i have learnt a new level of knowledge, just "put everyone" in the same boat for one persons behaviour....I am sure they will understand.
How do you determine when a book is factually proven KK?...again you're too funny. By your standards to your liking and approval?...lol
Even if I show you something that authenticates anything in the bible you're not going to believe it, you're the type that only going to believe something firsthand by seeing, smelling, touching, hearing etc...lol
So what's the use in giving you evidence?...lol
But beyond that, you haven't given one shred of evidence yourself that God doesn't exist? Because I repeat you are guilty of blind faith that God doesn't exist.
How do you determine when a book is factually proven KK?...again you're too funny. By your standards to your liking and approval?...lol
Even if I show you something that authenticates anything in the bible you're not going to believe it, you're the type that only going to believe something firsthand by seeing, smelling, touching, hearing etc...lol
So what's the use in giving you evidence?...lol
But beyond that, you haven't given one shred of evidence yourself that God doesn't exist? Because I repeat you are guilty of blind faith that God doesn't exist.
KK, so by saying morals are not absolute, you have admitted in saying that there is at least 1 time and place where raping and murdering a little girl is ok?
Funny, becuase you leading atheists DISAGREE with you...
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."
KK, so by saying morals are not absolute, you have admitted in saying that there is at least 1 time and place where raping and murdering a little girl is ok?
Funny, becuase you leading atheists DISAGREE with you...
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."
Where does Jesus condone rape? where does jesus condone murder? Where ? Where? Where? Where?
I am waiting........
Thus says the Lord: 'I will bring evil upon you out of your own house. I will take your wives [plural] while you live to see it, and will give them to your neighbor. He shall lie with your wives in broad daylight. You have done this deed in secret, but I will bring it about in the presence of all Israel, and with the sun looking down.'
Then David said to Nathan, "I have sinned against the Lord." Nathan answered David: "The Lord on his part has forgiven your sin: you shall not die. But since you have utterly spurned the Lord by this deed, the child born to you must surely die."
Where does Jesus condone rape? where does jesus condone murder? Where ? Where? Where? Where?
I am waiting........
Where does Jesus condone rape? where does jesus condone murder? Where ? Where? Where? Where?
I am waiting........
Where does Jesus condone rape? where does jesus condone murder? Where ? Where? Where? Where?
I am waiting........
Again, going to your fav atheistic websites and quoting things completely out of contect with no awareness of the background as to why things were said....
God is SIMPLY making everyone aware of the GRAVITY of there sins. Just like when it is stated, you should cut off your right hand if it causes you to sin, does God want everyone to walk around with no right hand?
Does he?
No, these passages are making everyone fully aware of the gravity of sin
Again, going to your fav atheistic websites and quoting things completely out of contect with no awareness of the background as to why things were said....
God is SIMPLY making everyone aware of the GRAVITY of there sins. Just like when it is stated, you should cut off your right hand if it causes you to sin, does God want everyone to walk around with no right hand?
Does he?
No, these passages are making everyone fully aware of the gravity of sin
Ok, I'll change my question and ask what makes you know this? Because it says that in the bible? So what of the other people on this planet who have different beliefs and follow different religions? They are all automatically cast into hell? Or do they go into what their version of heaven is?
We obviously have different belief systems which is fine. It makes for interesting debate. Neither is right or wrong in my opinion because no one knows with absolute certainty because they are beliefs. In my mind, I choose to believe that a higher power isn't narrow minded to deem one religion or belief set to any more correct than any other. There are great aspects of the numerous religions out there and there are also ugly aspects of them. I refuse to believe that if a higher power did create the whole universe (I have no idea how it all came about) that is all powerful and all loving, that it would play favorites to people because they follow a certain religion belief.
Yes, I know there are many different beliefs, choose or believe what ever you want that's out there, the choice is yours to make.
Let me just leave you with a couple passages in the bible which should answer some of your questions:
"When the Gentiles sin, they will be destroyed, even though they never had God's written law. And the person, who do have God's law, will be judged by that law when they fail to obey it. For merely listening to the law doesn't make us right with God. It is obeying the law that makes us right in His sight. Even Gentiles, who do not have God's written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. They demonstrate that God's law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. And this is the message I proclaim---that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone's secret life."----Romans 2:12-16
After Jesus resurrection He appeared to His disciples, and then He told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned."---Mark 16:15-16
Ok, I'll change my question and ask what makes you know this? Because it says that in the bible? So what of the other people on this planet who have different beliefs and follow different religions? They are all automatically cast into hell? Or do they go into what their version of heaven is?
We obviously have different belief systems which is fine. It makes for interesting debate. Neither is right or wrong in my opinion because no one knows with absolute certainty because they are beliefs. In my mind, I choose to believe that a higher power isn't narrow minded to deem one religion or belief set to any more correct than any other. There are great aspects of the numerous religions out there and there are also ugly aspects of them. I refuse to believe that if a higher power did create the whole universe (I have no idea how it all came about) that is all powerful and all loving, that it would play favorites to people because they follow a certain religion belief.
Yes, I know there are many different beliefs, choose or believe what ever you want that's out there, the choice is yours to make.
Let me just leave you with a couple passages in the bible which should answer some of your questions:
"When the Gentiles sin, they will be destroyed, even though they never had God's written law. And the person, who do have God's law, will be judged by that law when they fail to obey it. For merely listening to the law doesn't make us right with God. It is obeying the law that makes us right in His sight. Even Gentiles, who do not have God's written law, show that they know his law when they instinctively obey it, even without having heard it. They demonstrate that God's law is written in their hearts, for their own conscience and thoughts either accuse them or tell them they are doing right. And this is the message I proclaim---that the day is coming when God, through Christ Jesus, will judge everyone's secret life."----Romans 2:12-16
After Jesus resurrection He appeared to His disciples, and then He told them, "Go into all the world and preach the Good News to everyone. Anyone who believes and is baptized will be saved. But anyone who refuses to believe will be condemned."---Mark 16:15-16
Thou shall not murder is a metaphor
Thou shall not murder is a metaphor
Ok, very very very good point...
lets say these people as you said, never heard of God, bible etc etc etc....lets just say that they all of a sudden landed on that island at the age of 18.........
Do you think one person would murder another person on that island? let me clarify more, do you think they would know murdering another human is wrong?
Ok, very very very good point...
lets say these people as you said, never heard of God, bible etc etc etc....lets just say that they all of a sudden landed on that island at the age of 18.........
Do you think one person would murder another person on that island? let me clarify more, do you think they would know murdering another human is wrong?
Again, going to your fav atheistic websites and quoting things completely out of contect with no awareness of the background as to why things were said....
God is SIMPLY making everyone aware of the GRAVITY of there sins. Just like when it is stated, you should cut off your right hand if it causes you to sin, does God want everyone to walk around with no right hand?
Does he?
No, these passages are making everyone fully aware of the gravity of sin
Again, going to your fav atheistic websites and quoting things completely out of contect with no awareness of the background as to why things were said....
God is SIMPLY making everyone aware of the GRAVITY of there sins. Just like when it is stated, you should cut off your right hand if it causes you to sin, does God want everyone to walk around with no right hand?
Does he?
No, these passages are making everyone fully aware of the gravity of sin
if you dont know how to read a metaphor and what is literal in the context of what is being writtem then i dont know how you got past primary school
if you dont know how to read a metaphor and what is literal in the context of what is being writtem then i dont know how you got past primary school
Why are you equivocating ALL religions? Why?
Based on your logic, one corrupt cop gets caught, then all are corrupt. Get rid of all cops.........
Why are you equivocating ALL religions? Why?
Based on your logic, one corrupt cop gets caught, then all are corrupt. Get rid of all cops.........
Ok, very very very good point...
lets say these people as you said, never heard of God, bible etc etc etc....lets just say that they all of a sudden landed on that island at the age of 18.........
Do you think one person would murder another person on that island? let me clarify more, do you think they would know murdering another human is wrong?
Ok, very very very good point...
lets say these people as you said, never heard of God, bible etc etc etc....lets just say that they all of a sudden landed on that island at the age of 18.........
Do you think one person would murder another person on that island? let me clarify more, do you think they would know murdering another human is wrong?
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