If Christ died on the cross for all of humanity

Magnificently said....

I dont believe aliens exist.

There are numerous forums out there by "alien enthusiasts" that talk to each other about aliens, possibilities etc etc....

I dont go on there forums and tell that they are all deluded, all idiots etc etc..........I am completely secure in my belief that there arent any aliens out there, hence no need to go on there site.

They can do what they want, deep down i dont believe aliens exist, again, i am very at ease with this......However, if i was insecure about my belief in aliens, i have a feeling i will be on there site day and night.............Mmmmm, sound familiar?

So lets take a quick snapshot of Mikmicks logic

"I dont believe God exists, because there is no evidence of him. I only believe in things which there is evidence of"

"There is almost a 100% certainty that aliens exist"....

Uhm, what happened to " I only believe in things which there is evidence of"

Show me where there is EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE OF ALIENS....

Mikmicks, changing the rules as you go along....

whats going on here why are we talking about aliens, thats got zero to do with God....... "i have flocks you do not know of"

ok, thats out of the way

 

Theres a lot of alien movies I've never seen, i fi was going to rent what would i get

Paul

alien

walle

great now im talking about Aliens

Nope, just pointing out a massive flaw in Mikmicks logic...

He has spent the best part of a week explaining that he doesnt believe God exists because there is no evidence of him, yet in the same breath he says aliens exist even though he doesnt have empirical evidence that they exist........

The fact that there is life on this planet and that there may have been life on Mars in the past (or even Venus) combined with the fact that there are trillions of other planets makes the odds of other life in the universe almost 100%

Yes or No, do you have EMPIRICAL evidence aliens exist?

Song of Solomon 5:4

King James Version (KJV)

a song about a bowel movement

what kind of shit is this?

Appeal to motive is a pattern of argument which consists in challenging a thesis by calling into question the motives of its proposer. It can be considered as a special case of the ad hominem circumstantial argument. As such, this type of argument may be a logical fallacy.

A common feature of appeals to motive is that only the possibility of a motive (however small) is shown, without showing the motive actually existed or, if the motive did exist, that the motive played a role in forming the argument and its conclusion. Indeed, it is often assumed that the mere possibility of motive is evidence enough.

The reason I love talking to you Rostos is that you're just so blatantly stupid that you somehow manage to work every logical flaw POSSIBLE into your arguments, and I enjoy making you look really, really bad

If i randomly read one line from a trig book it might be harder to understand

I love how people act like they want to talk about if God is real or not but what we get is a song of solomon and Aliens

agree to disagree this is funny

No... it's only based on things that don't concern morons like you, such as probability, laws of nature, the observable universe, experimentation, etc.

Mikniks is basing his view on mathematics and recent discoveries across the universe. The fact that you are CERTAIN that aliens do no exist says a lot about you, although it doesn't say anything more than you've already revealed yourself to be, which is a stubborn, illogical moron who makes arguments that would fail a 4th grade reading level and a 1st grade logic level. I try to be cordial with you, but the fact remains that you are as obtuse as a doorknob and are so set in your insanity that you can't separate reality from fantasy anymore. I do feel bad for you though Rostos... watching you try to compete in an intellectual forum kinda reminds me of watching someone who doesn't know how to swim flail away in the water... no matter what you do, you're going to sink as you have so many times before and you only draw support from the biggest clowns you can find.

There is no empirical evidence of alien life, Rostos. Is there empirical evidence of god, Rostos? Say the second law of thermodynamics again, PLEASE. PLEASE make yourself look like more of a fool than you already have. I don't claim to know anything, unlike you. You believe without a shadow of a doubt that there's a magical man who's cloud surfing on some supernatural plane, but the idea that life exists SOMEWHERE else in the UNIVERSE/MULTIVERSE is just ridiculous to you, and for this you are a fuckin moron. That's just unavoidable. I've grown quite tired of you because you chide others for committing the very same fallacies that you employ in your own "arguments."

Take some classes, read some books, do SOMETHING. Learn something, for your sake. Because your bullshit may work on the sheep searching for comfort in their ludicrous beliefs, but when you come up against somebody who deserved to make it out of the 5th grade, your points topple like a Jenga tower in an earthquake.

Go pray about that you idiot

Which variety of men did god create? We have fossil records on many varities existing before modern man.

I will say it again.... the universe is an estimated 10-15 billion years old.... yet mankind is only 500,000 years old. Please enlighten me how that makes sense compared to Exodus?

Also life forms have been found in mars meteorites... since they are living they would be considered alien... meaning proof does 100% exist.

I find it laughable of how people think we are so important or rare... a meteor could wipeout humanity next week just like the dinosaurs... and guess what... a new species would take over the Earth.

Karl Marxx said it best " religion is the opiate of the masses"

Exodus should say Genesis... sorry

 

The Atheists MANTRA

"I dont believe in God because  is NO EVIDENCE of God , therefore he doesnt exist."

I believe Aliens exist, EVEN THOUGH there is NO EVIDENCE of aliens....

Sound logic........Consistent logic.....

Hey hey, the probability of the universe existing by chance

 "the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 10¹⁰¹²³ to 1."

Rostos beating the Miami Heat by himself > The universe starting out by chance.....

 

Roger Penrose -

Roger Penrose*, a famous British mathematician and a close friend of Stephen Hawking, wondered about this question and tried to calculate the probability. Including what he considered to be all variables required for human beings to exist and live on a planet such as ours, he computed the probability of this environment occurring among all the possible results of the Big Bang.

According to Penrose, the odds against such an occurrence were on the order of 1010123 to 1.

It is hard even to imagine what this number means. In math, the value 10123 means 1 followed by 123 zeros. (This is, by the way, more than the total number of atoms 1078 believed to exist in the whole universe.) But Penrose's answer is vastly more than this: It requires 1 followed by 10123 zeros.

Or consider: 103 means 1,000, a thousand. 10103 is a number that that has 1 followed by 1000 zeros. If there are six zeros, it's called a million; if nine, a billion; if twelve, a trillion and so on. There is not even a name for a number that has 1 followed by 10123 zeros.

In practical terms, in mathematics, a probability of 1 in 1050 means "zero probability". Penrose's number is more than trillion trillion trillion times less than that. In short, Penrose's number tells us that the 'accidental" or "coincidental" creation of our universe is an impossibility.

Concerning this mind-boggling number Roger Penrose comments:

This now tells how precise the Creator's aim must have been, namely to an accuracy of one part in 1010123. This is an extraordinary figure. One could not possibly even write the number down in full in the ordinary denary notation: it would be 1 followed by 10123 successive 0's. Even if we were to write a 0 on each separate proton and on each separate neutron in the entire universe- and we could throw in all the other particles for good measure- we should fall far short of writing down the figure needed.

In fact in order to recognize that the universe is not a "product of coincidences" one does not really need any of these calculations at all. Simply by looking around himself, a person can easily perceive the fact of creation in even the tiniest details of what he sees. How could a universe like this, perfect in its systems, the sun, the earth, people, houses, cars, trees, flowers, insects, and all the other things in it ever have come into existence as the result of atoms falling together by chance after an explosion?

References:* Roger Penrose, The Emperor's New Mind, 1989; Michael Denton, Nature's Destiny, The New York: The Free Press, 1998, p. 9

And the atheists want to talk about probabilities.....

Will ask again ... the universe is 10-15 billion years old.... human life is 500,000 .... explain that in genesis terms

Also... which variety of man did god create? I'm guessing it wasn't the neanderthals