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system, what part of california do you live in?



San Diego
 
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San Diego

nice

 
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nice



where are you from? love your views on here...keep cracking me up


 
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where are you from? love your views on here...keep cracking me up


i'm trying to tone it down a little but some people bring it out in me.

i live in florida now but i used to live in san francisco.  i have a few friends in san diego and have visited a few times.  i wish i was still in california. 

 
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I have noticed I am a fish outta water here but thats ok. Like I said, HUtch, wish I had all the answers but I dont. Plus some people believe everything they hear from evolutionist. Much of it  could be disproved like they try to do with Christianity. I dont have all the facts and not here trying to judge or change people just stating what I believe.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

can you describe this particular God that 90% of the world believes in, including elite athletes?

Christians / Catholics / Muslims and person believe in the same God..........That is a fact...

I have witnessed that as soon as many players win championships, hit homeruns, about to enter the arena etc etc make gestures to God......

There is a positive (not perfect) but a very strong positive correlation between people who have happiness in there lives and there belief in God......

Again, there is a correlation between people who have emptiness in there life (sad, lonely, depression, broke, broken relationships) and atheism. Again, this is not a 100% perfect correlation but a positive correlation.

I think the best comparison between people who believe in God and atheists can be looked at by a painting.......

If a person of faith and an atheist look at a painting........

An atheist would say the painting is a result of the chemicals of the paint coming together to form the picture......

A person of faith would say that a creator (painter) painted the picture........

That is the difference when describing who made the world between a person of faith and an atheist

 
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Actually it has been shown that many animals have evolved into other animals. Dinosaurs and birds are an example.

So thats why my bookies looks so big and mean when he has to wait a day to be paid But its a cute look so I love making him wait sometimes

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Christians / Catholics / Muslims and person believe in the same God..........That is a fact...

I have witnessed that as soon as many players win championships, hit homeruns, about to enter the arena etc etc make gestures to God......

There is a positive (not perfect) but a very strong positive correlation between people who have happiness in there lives and there belief in God......

Again, there is a correlation between people who have emptiness in there life (sad, lonely, depression, broke, broken relationships) and atheism. Again, this is not a 100% perfect correlation but a positive correlation.

I think the best comparison between people who believe in God and atheists can be looked at by a painting.......

If a person of faith and an atheist look at a painting........

An atheist would say the painting is a result of the chemicals of the paint coming together to form the picture......

A person of faith would say that a creator (painter) painted the picture........

That is the difference when describing who made the world between a person of faith and an atheist

i couldn't get past the first line.  are you saying

this guy

this guy

this guy

and this nutcase

all believe in the same God with the same ideals and morals and interpretations of God's wishes for us?  so if each desribed God for me, it would be clear that each was referring to the same entity?  is that what we are saying here? 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Christians / Catholics / Muslims and person believe in the same God..........That is a fact...

I have witnessed that as soon as many players win championships, hit homeruns, about to enter the arena etc etc make gestures to God......

There is a positive (not perfect) but a very strong positive correlation between people who have happiness in there lives and there belief in God......

Again, there is a correlation between people who have emptiness in there life (sad, lonely, depression, broke, broken relationships) and atheism. Again, this is not a 100% perfect correlation but a positive correlation.

Really I guess people in prison are some happy people then! Where are you pulling these "correlations from? I think I know

I think the best comparison between people who believe in God and atheists can be looked at by a painting.......

If a person of faith and an atheist look at a painting........

An atheist would say the painting is a result of the chemicals of the paint coming together to form the picture......

A person of faith would say that a creator (painter) painted the picture........

That is the difference when describing who made the world between a person of faith and an atheist

 
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Yes, belief in the same God......

The difference is in the denominations around it........

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Yes, belief in the same God......

The difference is in the denominations around it........

explain that to me

 
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Quote Originally Posted by SYSTEM:

yeah, you won't find a higher concentration of people who are born again christians or have found God than in prison. fortunately, our legal system does not recognize that as a legal defense, unless of course, that wacko mike huckabee is in charge then it is a get out of jail free and go murder someone card. 

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Yes, belief in the same God......

The difference is in the denominations around it........

in other words, what is the differnce between Bin Laden's God who says we all must convert to islam or be killed and america should be destroyed for things like the war in iraq and this palin nutjob who says our war in iraq is a task from God.  seems like two different gods to me. 

 
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Do i really have to explain this again?

God gives man a free will...........

Man can do what he wants..........

Man can murder, man can steal, man interpret differently from teachings, man can rape, man destroy.......

God gives us all a free will,

If u were to go out and murder someone would all of a sudden someone put a cage around u? Of course not.....

Man has a free will and will be judged on judgement day........just like if u get caught murdering someone, u go in front of a judge , get sentenced and spend time in prison / hell........

Think of your soul as a "blackbox recorder"...........after u die, God analyses (just trying to explain it in a simple way) your black box recorded and decides where u spend eternity.........

The purpose of this life is to love and learn..(different people are put through different tests).........

When i go outside, look at the sun, mountains , trees, God is right in front of me.........

Funny how scientists say the moon is older than the earth yet the moon came about from a collision of rocks with the earth....Thats my favourite one...........

 
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Quote Originally Posted by ClubDirt:

can you describe this particular God that 90% of the world believes in, including elite athletes?



It'll be whom you pray to when the Doctor tells you your Son has brain cancer.
 
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hahahaha............fun stuff......... 

carry on Dirt,,,,just checking in on you to make sure you didn't get jumped in here by j-man's crew............... 

 
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gravity is not a theory, that's why thier are laws of gravity
 
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It'll be whom you pray to when the Doctor tells you your Son has brain cancer.

could be.  people tend to find God in difficult situations, hence the prison example.  but just because someone feels really helpless and really needs help, but may not get it, doesn't help explain God, does it?   
 
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hahahaha............fun stuff......... 

carry on Dirt,,,,just checking in on you to make sure you didn't get jumped in here by j-man's crew............... 


not yet.  system is with me though in your conspicuous absence.  i think you'll like the singletary and jesus thread better than this one though.  i'm trying to explain why the 49ers will never win another championship in that thread and i've invoked the god of vegetables as well.  it's a winner.  
 
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could be.  people tend to find God in difficult situations, hence the prison example.  but just because someone feels really helpless and really needs help, but may not get it, doesn't help explain God, does it?   


What sort of explanation do you need? A physical appearance? What he/she/it looks like? Good luck with that one.

Pope John Paul the 2nd used to talk about the mysteries of the rosary and the mysteries of God. So, as a practicing Catholic, I look at these highly educated men who dedicate their lives to this mysterious cause and I ascertain if they cannot rationalize in human terms, how can I?

Whether you choose to believe in God or not, is just that...your choice. But, if you're not a believer in some larger entity, you may want to prepare yourself to answer some broad questions that a Big Bang, Evolutionary, or Intelligent Design theorist can never answer. Namely where id it all begin? Where do atoms and molecules come from? How did gravity come about? Why is the vagina so ugly? I thought I'd throw that one in for levity.

Anyway, you're a smart guy, so I'm sure you get the general idea. And NO, I will not get into a debate about Catholicism and the horrific acts of the few.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Do i really have to explain this again?

God gives man a free will...........

Man can do what he wants..........

Man can murder, man can steal, man interpret differently from teachings, man can rape, man destroy.......

God gives us all a free will,

If u were to go out and murder someone would all of a sudden someone put a cage around u? Of course not.....

Man has a free will and will be judged on judgement day........just like if u get caught murdering someone, u go in front of a judge , get sentenced and spend time in prison / hell........

Think of your soul as a "blackbox recorder"...........after u die, God analyses (just trying to explain it in a simple way) your black box recorded and decides where u spend eternity.........

The purpose of this life is to love and learn..(different people are put through different tests).........

When i go outside, look at the sun, mountains , trees, God is right in front of me.........

Funny how scientists say the moon is older than the earth yet the moon came about from a collision of rocks with the earth....Thats my favourite one...........


Is this the same god of the bible that commands people to rape and murder, and condones slavery? Who judges him? I hope I'm not judged by someone who is less moral than you or me.
 
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Is this the same god of the bible that commands people to rape and murder, and condones slavery? Who judges him? I hope I'm not judged by someone who is less moral than you or me.


Sometimes you have to take one for the team!

Seriously, please do educate me. When did God command rape or slavery? Or murder?
 
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Everyone here has faith in some shape or form but some people dont realise it...

When u go to a resteraunt and order food - u have FAITH / TRUST that the chef wont poison you.do u not........

U dont watch him cook the food but u have faith he wont poison u.....

U do not have to see to believe...

Think about a blind person from birth.......they have never seen the world, does that mean it doesnt exist?

He can feel it though........just like many christians can feel Christ in there lives

 
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Quote Originally Posted by Rostos:

Everyone here has faith in some shape or form but some people dont realise it...

When u go to a resteraunt and order food - u have FAITH / TRUST that the chef wont poison you.do u not........

U dont watch him cook the food but u have faith he wont poison u.....

U do not have to see to believe...

Think about a blind person from birth.......they have never seen the world, does that mean it doesnt exist?

He can feel it though........just like many christians can feel Christ in there lives



Your exhausting drivel proves absolutely nothing. It doesn't matter if the Atheist sees the world in a more negative light then a religious person does, and BTW, how the hell did you come to that conclusion?

All that matters is evidence and you have zero. Its on the beliver to prove that there is a god. It requires extraordinary evidence for your extraordinary claims. All you have a bronze age book, writen exclusively by men and copied by bishops hell bent on power.

Jesus is a copy of the Egyptian pagen gods, Osiris, Horus ......12 disiplies etc

You will go on and on about 90% believe in god and how you "feel" jesus etc etc, ill wait for your evidence
 
 
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What sort of explanation do you need? A physical appearance? What he/she/it looks like? Good luck with that one.

Pope John Paul the 2nd used to talk about the mysteries of the rosary and the mysteries of God. So, as a practicing Catholic, I look at these highly educated men who dedicate their lives to this mysterious cause and I ascertain if they cannot rationalize in human terms, how can I?

Whether you choose to believe in God or not, is just that...your choice. But, if you're not a believer in some larger entity, you may want to prepare yourself to answer some broad questions that a Big Bang, Evolutionary, or Intelligent Design theorist can never answer. Namely where id it all begin? Where do atoms and molecules come from? How did gravity come about? Why is the vagina so ugly? I thought I'd throw that one in for levity.

Anyway, you're a smart guy, so I'm sure you get the general idea. And NO, I will not get into a debate about Catholicism and the horrific acts of the few.

i don't know, something more than nothing.  but that really jsut deals with people who describe their god with any specificity.  how do they know?  or rostos who seems to think 90% of the wold have the same idea of God?  i don't get it.

but i disagree with you that scientists will never have an answer for how we got here and eveoled, etc.  why do you assume that?  obviously, we'll never know for sure but our collective knwoledge has come a long way.  it was just a few very short years ago when we thought the earth was flat and rainbows were a path to heaven and thunder was God's anger, didn't know a damn thing about genetics and chromosomes, and all sorts of other stupid shit.  in a blink of an eye, we have learned a lot.  

why wouldn't we continue learning in the years to come to continue answering questions we don't know enough to answer now, or even ask? 
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