Breeders Cup 11/4-11/5

Whats up play2winthagame, thanks for starting a BC thread

I've been doing some Breeders Cup capping, those big payoffs keep me awake at night, seriously. Check out this angle I have been working on.

Last 3 Breeder's Cup races ran at Churchill Downs that were 6 furlongs or less were all won by the # 1

2006 BC Sprint

1 Thor's Echo 33.20 15.80 10.20
$2 Exacta 1-2 paid $955.40

$2 Superfecta 1-2-7-6 paid 113,911.80

2010 BC Sprint

1. 1-Big Drama $12.40, $7.00, $5.00
$2 Exacta (1-4) Pays $254.80
$2 Superfecta (1-4-5-9) Pays $27,878.00

2010 BC Turf Sprint

1. 1-Chamberlain Bridge $15.80, $8.20, $5.60
$2 Exacta (1-2) Pays $156.20
$2 Superfecta (1-2-4-7) Pays $17,630.80

Notice that the exacta came exactly 1-2 twice. Also, if you bet the 1 thru 4 horses in an exacta box in each race, you would have hit the exacta every time.

In 2/3 races, the superfecta hit with horses post positions 1 thru 7.

A similar result could repeat itself this year at Churchill. These are one-turn races with the best horses in the world, horses so good that the time it takes them to run 5 or 6 furlongs is not going to vary significantly. I think it is only logical that the horses on the inside, especially the #s 1 & 2, have a huge advantage regardless.

Not sure that's the greatest of samples (3 races), but I do find it interesting that horses have won three straight times from sucha difficult post.

Ben's Cat wasn't supplemented yesterday. Leatherbury came up 20k short & wasn't willing to put it up. Investors started to drop out Saturday when they realized he was hesitant to put up his own dough.

Instead he'll race in a 75k stakes @ Laurel Saturday & probably be 2-5. What a freakin shame...

Breeders Cup Day..best day of the year...not sure I like the added Friday card but I did take the day off from work so it isn't all that bad.

Horses pre-entered Wednesday for the Breeders' Cup World Championships, to be held Nov. 4-5 at Churchill Downs (Odds by Mike Watchmaker, the national handicapper for the Daily Racing Form):

Friday, Nov. 4

JUVENILE SPRINT

$500,000, 2-year-olds, 6 furlongs

Post time: 4:10 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Blacky the Bull Jeffrey L. Bonde 12-1

Caspar Netscher Alan McCabe 30-1

Hansen Michael J. Maker 6-1

Holdin Bullets Wesley A. Ward 10-1

Hunt Crossing Todd A. Pletcher 10-1

Jake Mo Allen Milligan 20-1

Secret Circle Bob Baffert 6-5

Seeker Steven M. Asmussen 8-1

Shumoos Brian Meehan 20-1

Sum of the Parts Thomas M. Amoss 12-1

Trinniberg Bisnath Parbhoo 12-1

Vexor John C. Kimmel 8-1

Juvenile Fillies Turf

$1 million, 2-year-old fillies, 1 mile (turf)

Post time: 4:50 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Dayatthespa Chad C. Brown 10-1

Dear Lavinia Jean-Claude Rouget 30-1

Elusive Kate John H.M. Gosden 2-1

Hard Not to Like Gail Cox 20-1

Homecoming Queen Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1

Northern Passion Mark E. Casse 20-1

Pure Gossip Philip M. Serpe 10-1

Questing John H.M. Gosden 10-1

Rocket Twentyone W.T. Howard 20-1

Self Preservation Ben D. A. Cecil 20-1

Somali Lemonade Michael R. Matz 5-1

Stephanie's Kitten Wayne M. Catalano 8-1

Stopshoppingmaria Todd A. Pletcher 6-1

Sweet Cat Todd A. Pletcher 6-1

Also eligible (in order of eligibility)

My Gi Gi Brian J. Koriner 30-1

Customer Base Thomas F. Proctor 15-1

Spirited Miss Mark E. Casse 30-1

Up Aidan P. O'Brien 30-1

Ann of the Dance Martin D. Wolfson 20-1

Royal Bonnie George Weaver 15-1

Bourbonstreetgirl Gary Contessa 30-1

Karlovy Vary George R. Arnold II 30-1

Filly & Mare Sprint

$1 million, Fillies and mares 3 and up, 7 furlongs

Post time: 5:30 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Champagne d'Oro Eric J. Guillot 30-1

Golden Mystery Juan Carlos Guerrero 20-1

Great Hot Antonio C. Avila 20-1

Her Smile Todd A. Pletcher 30-1

Irish Gypsy Bob Baffert 20-1

Musical Romance William A. Kaplan 20-1

Pomeroys Pistol Amy Tarrant 5-1

Shotgun Gulch C. R. Trout 20-1

Switch John W. Sadler 4-1

Tamarind Hall Jeremiah C. Englehart 30-1

Tanda Mike R. Mitchell 15-1

Tar Heel Mom Stanley M. Hough 30-1

Turbulent Descent Mike Puype 8-5

Juvenile Fillies

$2 million, 2-year-old fillies, 11/16 miles

Post time: 6:10 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Candrea Bob Baffert 5-1

Grace Hall Anthony W. Dutrow 3-1

Homecoming Queen Aidan P. O'Brien 30-1

Miss Netta Kiaran P. McLaughlin 10-1

My Miss Aurelia Steven M. Asmussen 5-2

Northern Passion Mark E. Casse 30-1

Putthebabiesdown Kenneth G. McPeek 20-1

Questing John H.M. Gosden 20-1

Rocket Twentyone W.T. Howard 15-1

Say a Novena Edward Plesa Jr. 15-1

Self Preservation Ben D.A. Cecil 30-1

Stephanie's Kitten Wayne M. Catalano 20-1

Stopshoppingmaria Todd A. Pletcher 10-1

Weemissfrankie Peter A. Eurton 5-1

Also eligible (in order of eligibility)

Awesome Belle Stanley Gold 12-1

Frolic's Revenge Milton W. Wolfson 30-1

Up (IRE) Aidan P. O'Brien 30-1

Sky High Lady Mark E. Casse 30-1

Filly & Mare Turf

$2 million, Fillies and mares 3 and up,13/8 miles (turf). Post time: 6:50 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Announce Andre Fabre 12-1

Aruna H. Graham Motion 30-1

Cambina Jeffrey L. Bonde 30-1

Cozi Rosie John W. Sadler 12-1

Distorted Legacy Angel Penna Jr. 30-1

Dubawi Heights Simon Callaghan 8-1

Fantasia Jonathan E. Sheppard 30-1

Harmonious John A. Shirreffs 20-1

Midday Sir Henry Cecil 2-1

Misty For Me Aidan P. O'Brien 12-1

Nahrain Roger Varian 6-1

Sarafina Alain De Royer-Dupre 5-2

Shared Account H. Graham Motion 30-1

Stacelita Chad C. Brown 5-1

Also eligible (in order of eligibility)

Perfect Shirl Roger L. Attfield 30-1

Dynaslew Seth Benzel 20-1

Medaglia d'Amour Ben D. A. Cecil 30-1

Ladies' Classic

$2 million, Fillies and mares 3 and up, 11/8 miles

Post time: 7:30 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Aruna H. Graham Motion 10-1

Ask the Moon Martin D. Wolfson 20-1

Great Hot Antonio C. Avila 20-1

Havre de Grace J. Larry Jones 8-5

It's Tricky Kiaran P. McLaughlin 5-1

Medaglia d'Amour Ben D. A. Cecil 30-1

Miss Match Neil D. Drysdale 12-1

Pachattack Gerard A. Butler 10-1

Plum Pretty Bob Baffert 2-1

Royal Delta William I. Mott 7-2

Satans Quick Chick Eric R. Reed 30-1

Super Espresso Todd A. Pletcher 20-1

Switch John W. Sadler 12-1

Ultra Blend Art Sherman 12-1

Also eligible

Champagne d'Oro Eric J. Guillot 30-1

Saturday, Nov. 5

Marathon

$500,000, 3-year-olds and up, 13/4 miles

Post time: 1:20 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

A.U. Miner Clark Hanna 7-2

Afleet Again Robert E. Reid Jr. 30-1

Baryshnikov Michael J. Maker 15-1

Birdrun William I. Mott 6-1

Brigantin Andre Fabre 10-1

Cease Albert M. Stall Jr. 5-1

Eldaafer Diane Alvarado 12-1

Giant Oak Chris M. Block 6-1

Harrison's Cave Aidan P. O'Brien 20-1

Meeznah David Lanigan 15-1

Pleasant Prince Wesley A. Ward 8-1

Stately Victor Michael J. Maker 12-1

Tutti Buona Gente Michelle Lovell 30-1

Juvenile Turf

$1 million, 2-year-old colts/geldings, 1 mile (turf)

Post time: 2:02 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Animal Spirits Albert M. Stall Jr. 12-1

Caspar Netscher Alan McCabe 10-1

Coalport Wayne M. Catalano 20-1

Daddy Long Legs Aidan P. O'Brien 6-1

Dullahan Dale L. Romans 8-1

Fantastic Song Chad C. Brown 30-1

Farraaj Roger Varian 10-1

Finale Todd A. Pletcher 5-1

Learn Aidan P. O'Brien 20-1

Lucky Chappy H. Graham Motion 12-1

Majestic City Peter Miller 8-1

Shkspeare Shaliyah Doodnauth Shivmangal 15-1

State of Play H. Graham Motion 6-1

Wrote Aidan P. O'Brien 15-1

Also eligible (in order of eligibility)

Excaper Ian Black 20-1

Daddy Nose Best Steven M. Asmussen 30-1

Gung Ho Michael J. Maker 30-1

Tequila Factor Wayne M. Catalano 30-1

Liquidity Trap Chad C. Brown 30-1

Two Months Rent James J. Toner 30-1

Sprint

$1.5 million, 3-year-olds and up, 6 furlongs

Post time: 2:37 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Aikenite Todd A. Pletcher 20-1

Amazombie William Spawr 8-1

Apriority David Fawkes 20-1

Big Drama David Fawkes 7-2

Caleb's Posse Donnie K. Von Hemel 10-1

Euroears Bob Baffert 6-1

Force Freeze Peter R. Walder 10-1

Giant Ryan Bisnath Parbhoo 10-1

Hamazing Destiny D. Wayne Lukas 20-1

Jackson Bend Nicholas P. Zito 4-1

The Factor Bob Baffert 5-1

Turf Sprint

$1 million, 3-year-olds and up, 5 furlongs (turf)

Post time: 3:21 p.m.

Broken Dreams Thomas F. Proctor 15-1

California Flag Brian J. Koriner 10-1

Camp Victory Mike R. Mitchell 10-1

Caracortado Michael Machowsky 7-2

Chamberlain Bridge W. Bret Calhoun 8-1

Country Day Stephen R. Margolis 20-1

Grand Adventure Mark R. Frostad 20-1

Great Attack Wesley A. Ward 20-1

Havelock Darrin Miller 5-1

Holiday for Kitten Wesley A. Ward 30-1

Hoofit H. Graham Motion 15-1

Perfect Officer Michael Pino 10-1

Rapport Ronny W. Werner 20-1

Regally Ready Steven M. Asmussen 6-1

Dirt Mile

$1 million, 3-year-olds and up, 1 mile

Post time: 4:01 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Aikenite Todd A. Pletcher 20-1

Caleb's Posse Donnie K. Von Hemel 20-1

Jackson Bend Nicholas P. Zito 5-1

Jersey Town Barclay Tagg 30-1

Prayer for Relief Bob Baffert 30-1

Rule Todd A. Pletcher 20-1

Shackleford Dale L. Romans 20-1

Sidney's Candy Todd A. Pletcher 20-1

The Factor Bob Baffert 6-1

To Honor and Serve William I. Mott 10-1

Trappe Shot Kiaran P. McLaughlin 10-1

Tres Borrachos Martin F. Jones 30-1

Uncle Mo Todd A. Pletcher 9-5

Wilburn Steven M. Asmussen 12-1

Also eligible (in order of eligibility)

Tapizar Steven M. Asmussen 20-1

Irrefutable Bob Baffert 30-1

Turf

$3 million, 3-year-olds and up, 11/2 miles (turf)

Post time: 4:45 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Await the Dawn Aidan P. O'Brien 5-1

Brilliant Speed Thomas Albertrani 20-1

Dean's Kitten Michael J. Maker 8-1

Meeznah David Lanigan 20-1

Midday Sir Henry Cecil 9-2

Stately Victor Michael J. Maker 30-1

Teaks North Justin Sallusto 20-1

Winchester Christophe Clement 10-1

Sarafina Alain De Royer-Dupre 3-1

Sea Moon Sir Michael R. Stoute 6-1

St Nicholas Abbey Aidan P. O'Brien 6-1

Juvenile

$2 million, 2-year-old colts/geldings, 11/16 miles

Post time: 5:25 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Alpha Kiaran P. McLaughlin 20-1

Creative Cause Mike Harrington 5-1

Crusade Aidan P. O'Brien 15-1

Daddy Long Legs Aidan P. O'Brien 12-1

Drill Bob Baffert 6-1

Dullahan Dale L. Romans 8-1

Fort Loudon Stanley Gold 20-1

Hansen Michael J. Maker 12-1

Majestic City Peter Miller 10-1

Optimizer D. Wayne Lukas 20-1

Prospective Mark E. Casse 20-1

Right to Vote Eoin G. Harty 30-1

Take Charge Indy Patrick B. Byrne 15-1

Union Rags Michael R. Matz 3-1

Also eligible (in order of eligibility)

Sabercat Steven M. Asmussen 30-1

Speightscity Gary Contessa 30-1

Mile

$2 million, 3-year-olds and up, 1 mile (turf)

Post time: 6:07 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Byword Andre Fabre 15-1

Compliance Officer Bruce Brown 20-1

Courageous Cat William I. Mott 6-1

Court Vision Dale L. Romans 20-1

Get Stormy Thomas M. Bush 15-1

Gio Ponti Christophe Clement 5-1

Goldikova Freddy Head 5-2

Jeranimo Mike Pender 20-1

Mr. Commons John A. Shirreffs 12-1

Sidney's Candy Todd A. Pletcher 15-1

Strong Suit Richard Hannon 10-1

Turallure Charles Lopresti 8-1

Zoffany Aidan P. O'Brien 15-1

Classic

$5 million, 3-year-olds and up, 11/4 miles

Post time: 7 p.m.

Horse Trainer Odds

Await the Dawn Aidan P. O'Brien 15-1

Drosselmeyer William I. Mott 20-1

Flat Out Charles L. Dickey 8-1

Game On Dude Bob Baffert 15-1

Gio Ponti Christophe Clement 12-1

Havre de Grace J. Larry Jones 4-1

Headache Michael J. Maker 30-1

Prayer for Relief Bob Baffert 20-1

Rattlesnake Bridge Kiaran P. McLaughlin 20-1

Ruler On Ice Kelly J. Breen 20-1

So You Think Aidan P. O'Brien 10-1

Stay Thirsty Todd A. Pletcher 8-1

To Honor and Serve William I. Mott 12-1

Uncle Mo Todd A. Pletcher 3-1

Also eligible

Ice Box Nicholas P. Zito 50-1

Trappe Shot is cross entered Sprint and Dirt Mile. Paper work mistake made @ CD.

How about Strong Suit ? Two back (7/26) was Tons and spurted away w/ ease under a hand ride and 3 back (7/3) seemed like did not want the lead, seemed rank and head strong.....under pressure whole way and still almost got it done.

i'll be at churchill downs for the breeders cup races

thanks for the thread. i'll be keeping an eye out for some winners

Morning line is 1-1.  My friend trains Royal Currier who is in that race and is the second choice on the ML at 5-1.  Very talented horse.  I believe this is his first time facing older runners.  Just dusted a field at Parx in a 250K stakes and set a track record.  Broke through the gate before the BayShore, and my friend is convinced he would've won that race had that not happened.  Has had some success so far on turf, and they're convinced that this horse will be a monster on the green.  If he breaks clean, he'll be a real handful.