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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:


Made in Costa Rica 

He meant to say hey you little person person you guys putting anything new in the balls this year kid 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:

It's scary how many naive people there are in the world....
Don't waste your time, Sac.



Has nothing to be with being naive...

Ive played baseball my whole life, and in the minors for years...

General public doesnt realize how far a baseball can go...

Everyone keeps showing stats of more homeruns and further homeruns....

WHy not look up the stats on how many pitchers threw 92+ 5 years ago, compared to now...

Almost EVERY pithcer out of the bullpen throws 95-100....a few years ago, a team was lucky to have 2 or 3 guys who threw that hard...


After the steroids problems and now the PED...MLB will not allow juiced balls to get out as well
 
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anyone know any bookie in san francisco?
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



Has nothing to be with being naive...

Ive played baseball my whole life, and in the minors for years...

General public doesnt realize how far a baseball can go...

Everyone keeps showing stats of more homeruns and further homeruns....

WHy not look up the stats on how many pitchers threw 92+ 5 years ago, compared to now...

Almost EVERY pithcer out of the bullpen throws 95-100....a few years ago, a team was lucky to have 2 or 3 guys who threw that hard...


After the steroids problems and now the PED...MLB will not allow juiced balls to get out as well
Nice try, but the ball is juiced. Your last sentence is very confusing. I don't understand the first part: What is the difference between "the steroids problem and now the PED"? I didn't play in the minors, but I played in college and I can tell you unequivocally that you're delusional if you think these HR's are the result of pitchers throwing harder. That's absolutely hilarious.
 
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someone get the stats of the 2017 season so far for OUTS. I would like to know whats the percentage of fly outs aka every batter trying to crush the ball.

there's no such thing as manufacturing runs these days.

like tonight, cards down 1 in the 6th in what seemed like a tight game, got a leadoff double, purposely did not sac bunt the guy to 3rd , ended up getting struck out. what kinda chit is that. 

thats called lets see how many times we can fly out to the warning track or hit a bomb mentality. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:

someone get the stats of the 2017 season so far for OUTS. I would like to know whats the percentage of fly outs aka every batter trying to crush the ball.

there's no such thing as manufacturing runs these days.

like tonight, cards down 1 in the 6th in what seemed like a tight game, got a leadoff double, purposely did not sac bunt the guy to 3rd , ended up getting struck out. what kinda chit is that. 

thats called lets see how many times we can fly out to the warning track or hit a bomb mentality. 
Now, on this post, you make valid points. Today's players cannot move runners over. And as far as a "sac bunt" that you mentioned, they have no idea of what you're talking about. What the hell is wrong with the coaches? You can't through to these guys?
 
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*You can't GET through to these guys?
 
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Opposite field homers seem pretty interestung
 
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Last week they said something about the seams on the ball being knit tighter 
 
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global warming
 
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Quote Originally Posted by GTD:

Last week they said something about the seams on the ball being knit tighter 

Yes. They are.

@ everyone who keeps posting their ideas of why there's more homeruns other than the baseball...

READ THE LINKED ARTICLES POSTED IN THIS THREAD FOR CHRIST'S SAKE!!

It's ALL there. Everything you guys are questioning has been examined in a scientific, reasonable and logical way.

It's proven that after the all star break of 2015 the MLB started using a ball with lower seams, a smaller circumference, and a higher C.O.R.

Look at the #'s one more time, they correlate perfectly with the time frame of after the 2015 all star break to now.

702 more were hit in 2016 than 2015. 508 or so more will be hit in 2017. The average of pitcher's mph did not drastically shoot up in that time frame. Even if it did, it happened mid season of 2015 huh? Every pitching coach on every team forced all their pitchers to suddenly throw harder...ok.

If you had the time to read this post, you have the time to click on the links, put your A.D.D. aside for 5 minutes, and read.
 
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Almost 72 years old. Successful player, coach, manager and gambler. The ball is juiced. PERIOD. MLB knows it and wants it, to accommodate the short attention span fan of today.There are several telling signs. If it were not managers would not accept the uppercut swing every hitter is using. Lightweight guys would not be so calm about opposite field, lofted shots, sailing out, and young players coming up from the minors would not be shocked at the flight of the ball. 
  
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:

its a different mentality these days. guys are going for the bomb. they are not looking to manufacture runs, it's too difficult. teams are recruiting power from the minors. 

long gone are the days of the Juan Pierre's and David Ekstein's. No one gives a chit about "well he may be small but hes a good dugout presence". 

if you cant go yard youre nothing. 

Besides, CHICKS love the long ball  !!  
 
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2015:

1st half: HR per plate appearance =39.63

2nd half: HR per plate appearance =35.05


Facts
 
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Quote Originally Posted by KeyElement:

Almost 72 years old. Successful player, coach, manager and gambler. The ball is juiced. PERIOD. MLB knows it and wants it, to accommodate the short attention span fan of today.There are several telling signs. If it were not managers would not accept the uppercut swing every hitter is using. Lightweight guys would not be so calm about opposite field, lofted shots, sailing out, and young players coming up from the minors would not be shocked at the flight of the ball.
No doubt, Key.
 
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who has the numbers for amount of strikes swinging v contact made outs for 2014 v 2016.

you do realize a 'juiced' ball doesnt make batters better contact hitters right? are there any great HR guys smashing 60 a season now? could it be that more players are being put on MLB teams that can hit, and then being instructed to swing for the fences at all costs?
 
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This thread will never die
 
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LOL you guys are crazy you think the ball was juiced?
are you even watching the games? if the ball was juiced EVERYTHING would be a HR and flyouts wouldnt exist but guess what its still 90% Flyballs and 10% HR
Just because you suck and are losing your bets on unders. just bet the over?. PLAYERS are way stronger now and have access to alot of better training then before. 
If you are a true bettor you bet on all sports. and ALL sports are seeing the over increased year by year.
NBA overs 2015 generally at 200-210 
NBA overs 2016 became 210-220 even 230 240 by next year the norm will be 220
MLB overs two years ago were at 7.5, 8.0 
Last year they were at 8.5, 9.0 Now we are seeing them at 10, 10.5 even 11.
Nfl same theory of the over.
NHL same theory overs in nhl are at 5.5 ,6.0 
PLAYERS now have more access to equipment and training to hit the ball and become better.
MLB is trying to shorten the game and you guys think they juiced the ball . LOL they still have pitchers who have 1.5-2.9 era which is great is there balls just not juiced? 
 
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LOL you guys are crazy you think the ball was juiced?
are you even watching the games? if the ball was juiced EVERYTHING would be a HR and flyouts wouldnt exist but guess what its still 90% Flyballs and 10% HR
Just because you suck and are losing your bets on unders. just bet the over?. PLAYERS are way stronger now and have access to alot of better training then before. 
If you are a true bettor you bet on all sports. and ALL sports are seeing the over increased year by year.
NBA overs 2015 generally at 200-210 
NBA overs 2016 became 210-220 even 230 240 by next year the norm will be 220
MLB overs two years ago were at 7.5, 8.0 
Last year they were at 8.5, 9.0 Now we are seeing them at 10, 10.5 even 11.
Nfl same theory of the over.
NHL same theory overs in nhl are at 5.5 ,6.0 
PLAYERS now have more access to equipment and training to hit the ball and become better.
MLB is trying to shorten the game and you guys think they juiced the ball . LOL they still have pitchers who have 1.5-2.9 era which is great is there balls just not juiced? 
Easily the early favorite for "Idiotic Post Of The Year".
 
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:

who has the numbers for amount of strikes swinging v contact made outs for 2014 v 2016.

you do realize a 'juiced' ball doesnt make batters better contact hitters right? are there any great HR guys smashing 60 a season now? could it be that more players are being put on MLB teams that can hit, and then being instructed to swing for the fences at all costs?
"...more players are being put on MLB teams that can hit" Do you know how many guys are on major league teams that are hitting below the Mendoza Line of .220? One of the reasons for using a juiced ball is to try to make these minor leaguers look presentable. Pay attention or stop posting.
 
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On Sports Center last night they mentioned that this year hitters are on pace to hit 6000 HR's.  The record for most HR"s was in 2000 with 5,364 HR's hit.. Also there have been 27 straight games where at least 1 player has hit multiple HR's.... There are multiple average players with 20+ HR's already.. 
Mayweather bet 450000 on
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:

Easily the early favorite for "Idiotic Post Of The Year".
Concur 
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https://theringer.com/2017-mlb-home-run-spike-juiced-ball-testing-reveal-155cd21108bc

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/are-juiced-balls-the-new-steroids/

https://ftw.usatoday.com/2017/06/mlb-home-run-surge-2017-huh-what-gives-fly-balls-juiced-balls-oh-my

https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/it-looks-like-the-baseball-is-behind-mlbs-power-surge/


The correct way to view these would be to click and hold at one end of the link. Highlight one entire link, once it is highlighted you right click on it. Then you will have the option of "going to" the selected link.

Then comes the semi hard part...reading. But the true challenge is to properly comprehend what you are reading. Now most of this stuff can seem like it's biased, but it's not. They are eliminating every theory with what I would call "common sense" and logic.

Remember science class? You start with a hypothesis, then you run tests, then you get results... 

After obtaining all the info, one is still entitled to making their own opinions. 

 
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What makes you think some of these people attended Science classes? That's assuming a lot, IMO.
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:

if this bs was true then certain power hitters will be hitting 60 HR this season. its not the case. its not like people are scoring more personally, it means more players are hitting HR because teams are looking for power as the main offense and players mentality are to hit the ball as hard as they can.

lol @ anyone crying black magic in the ball.

And fourth, the homers have been distributed disproportionately, flattening the distance between hitters on the home run leaderboard rather than inflating any individual totals to record highs. Less powerful hitters have derived bigger benefits, which seems consistent with the fact that there’s a fly-ball-distance sweet spot where balls become much more likely to turn into homers. Players who previously had warning-track power might have more to gain from adding extra feet to their flies and regularly reaching that sweet spot than the elite sluggers who were already comfortably clearing the fence.
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