if this bs was true then certain power hitters will be hitting 60 HR this season. its not the case. its not like people are scoring more personally, it means more players are hitting HR because teams are looking for power as the main offense and players mentality are to hit the ball as hard as they can.
lol @ anyone crying black magic in the ball.
Both articles say that the newer hitting approach (ie launch angles) is also a part of the equation. But it can't be the sole reason for the HR and run explosion.
For your statement in bold...are you not seeing the scoreboard after each day of baseball? Have you not noticed the books jacking up the totals?
2013: Team RPG=4.17
2014: Team RPG=4.07
2015: Team RPG=4.25
2016: Team RPG=4.48
2017: Team RPG=4.68
I'm just stating facts here gentlemen. I'm not crying fix or anything. How we deal with these facts will only help us in our handicapping, if you want to continue to do so.
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:
if this bs was true then certain power hitters will be hitting 60 HR this season. its not the case. its not like people are scoring more personally, it means more players are hitting HR because teams are looking for power as the main offense and players mentality are to hit the ball as hard as they can.
lol @ anyone crying black magic in the ball.
Both articles say that the newer hitting approach (ie launch angles) is also a part of the equation. But it can't be the sole reason for the HR and run explosion.
For your statement in bold...are you not seeing the scoreboard after each day of baseball? Have you not noticed the books jacking up the totals?
2013: Team RPG=4.17
2014: Team RPG=4.07
2015: Team RPG=4.25
2016: Team RPG=4.48
2017: Team RPG=4.68
I'm just stating facts here gentlemen. I'm not crying fix or anything. How we deal with these facts will only help us in our handicapping, if you want to continue to do so.
I've never in my life claimed a game was fixed. However, like I said before, only a fool would deny the ball is juiced.That doesn't fix it for either side since both teams are hitting the same ball. Please explain how a juiced ball can determine the outcome of a game. It has nothing to do with what side you bet. You must have limited experience with this sport.
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I've never in my life claimed a game was fixed. However, like I said before, only a fool would deny the ball is juiced.That doesn't fix it for either side since both teams are hitting the same ball. Please explain how a juiced ball can determine the outcome of a game. It has nothing to do with what side you bet. You must have limited experience with this sport.
LogCottage claiming something is Fixed is hilarious? What? Did you finally come to your senses? Are you admitting you were full of garbage all of these times you were accusing everyone to be lunatics for thinking the game is fixed?
Never claimed a game was fixed. I said the ball is juiced, for BOTH teams. Reading Comprehension 101, Phixer...
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Quote Originally Posted by austrian:
LogCottage claiming something is Fixed is hilarious? What? Did you finally come to your senses? Are you admitting you were full of garbage all of these times you were accusing everyone to be lunatics for thinking the game is fixed?
Never claimed a game was fixed. I said the ball is juiced, for BOTH teams. Reading Comprehension 101, Phixer...
Both articles say that the newer hitting approach (ie launch angles) is also a part of the equation. But it can't be the sole reason for the HR and run explosion.
For your statement in bold...are you not seeing the scoreboard after each day of baseball? Have you not noticed the books jacking up the totals?
2013: Team RPG=4.17
2014: Team RPG=4.07
2015: Team RPG=4.25
2016: Team RPG=4.48
2017: Team RPG=4.68
Team RPG going up every year doesnt mean a ball is juiced. it means all teams are looking for power from the minor system. theyre not bringing up "good clubhouse presences"
if you watch everyday i assume you obviously notice. almost everyone who comes to the plate has power. the ball might be juiced i dont know, but i think a lot has to do with the kind of players they are bringing up to the majors and the scoring mentality these teams have had to adapt to in order to survive.
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
Both articles say that the newer hitting approach (ie launch angles) is also a part of the equation. But it can't be the sole reason for the HR and run explosion.
For your statement in bold...are you not seeing the scoreboard after each day of baseball? Have you not noticed the books jacking up the totals?
2013: Team RPG=4.17
2014: Team RPG=4.07
2015: Team RPG=4.25
2016: Team RPG=4.48
2017: Team RPG=4.68
Team RPG going up every year doesnt mean a ball is juiced. it means all teams are looking for power from the minor system. theyre not bringing up "good clubhouse presences"
if you watch everyday i assume you obviously notice. almost everyone who comes to the plate has power. the ball might be juiced i dont know, but i think a lot has to do with the kind of players they are bringing up to the majors and the scoring mentality these teams have had to adapt to in order to survive.
Just read the articles, google other articles as well. They examine those facets, they look for multiple reasons.
The influx literally came after the 2015 all star break(midseason) The ball is the only reason that makes sense for such a drastic change to happen so quickly.
All the reasons you state about the hitters having power I don't disagree with. If the new young power hitters and launch angles were the only reason, it would of come on gradually, not instantly.
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@justlol
Just read the articles, google other articles as well. They examine those facets, they look for multiple reasons.
The influx literally came after the 2015 all star break(midseason) The ball is the only reason that makes sense for such a drastic change to happen so quickly.
All the reasons you state about the hitters having power I don't disagree with. If the new young power hitters and launch angles were the only reason, it would of come on gradually, not instantly.
I agree with Austrian here. You are notorious for denying there is any foul playing in pro sports. I also understand that betting on the totals is not something you consider as betting? Fixing has never been a singular interest driven. The league has a motif for more runs in a game and only a moron would need an explanation why.
Where did you get that info that I don't consider totals as betting? Let's try this again: When BOTH teams are hitting the SAME ball, how can that be viewed as a fix? Speaking of morons.....
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Quote Originally Posted by Mick960:
I agree with Austrian here. You are notorious for denying there is any foul playing in pro sports. I also understand that betting on the totals is not something you consider as betting? Fixing has never been a singular interest driven. The league has a motif for more runs in a game and only a moron would need an explanation why.
Where did you get that info that I don't consider totals as betting? Let's try this again: When BOTH teams are hitting the SAME ball, how can that be viewed as a fix? Speaking of morons.....
so youre saying chad pinder has continued to improve as he's moved from the minors to majors? cmon man im not trying to be a D but what is that even supposed to mean.
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so youre saying chad pinder has continued to improve as he's moved from the minors to majors? cmon man im not trying to be a D but what is that even supposed to mean.
so youre saying chad pinder has continued to improve as he's moved from the minors to majors? cmon man im not trying to be a D but what is that even supposed to mean.
His HR rate has gone through the roof facing Major league pitching. How does that work? Are the pitchers better in the Minors? Are the parks bigger in the Minors...
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:
so youre saying chad pinder has continued to improve as he's moved from the minors to majors? cmon man im not trying to be a D but what is that even supposed to mean.
His HR rate has gone through the roof facing Major league pitching. How does that work? Are the pitchers better in the Minors? Are the parks bigger in the Minors...
His HR rate has gone through the roof facing Major league pitching. How does that work? Are the pitchers better in the Minors? Are the parks bigger in the Minors...
Pithcers throw alot harder in the big leagues, than minors...meaning solid contact will fly much, much further
The size and strength of a player doesnt matter...you can have all the muscles you want, but if you dont have a proper swing plane it wont even matter...
Just like you can be a small player, but a proper swing will launch the ball...
Not saying the balls are not juiced.....but the training players have today and technology/tools/training/gear available make it so much easier than back in the day...even just a few years ago
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
His HR rate has gone through the roof facing Major league pitching. How does that work? Are the pitchers better in the Minors? Are the parks bigger in the Minors...
Pithcers throw alot harder in the big leagues, than minors...meaning solid contact will fly much, much further
The size and strength of a player doesnt matter...you can have all the muscles you want, but if you dont have a proper swing plane it wont even matter...
Just like you can be a small player, but a proper swing will launch the ball...
Not saying the balls are not juiced.....but the training players have today and technology/tools/training/gear available make it so much easier than back in the day...even just a few years ago
His HR rate has gone through the roof facing Major league pitching. How does that work? Are the pitchers better in the Minors? Are the parks bigger in the Minors...
ok. well those are two points of many. its not that linear.
chad pinder had 50AB in 22 games in 2016. Lets call that not even worth mentioning.
those numbers from minors to major arent as drastic as you think. hes basically hitting 1 more homer every 4-5 games that he did in the minors. not exactly astonishing.
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
His HR rate has gone through the roof facing Major league pitching. How does that work? Are the pitchers better in the Minors? Are the parks bigger in the Minors...
ok. well those are two points of many. its not that linear.
chad pinder had 50AB in 22 games in 2016. Lets call that not even worth mentioning.
those numbers from minors to major arent as drastic as you think. hes basically hitting 1 more homer every 4-5 games that he did in the minors. not exactly astonishing.
Pithcers throw alot harder in the big leagues, than minors...meaning solid contact will fly much, much further
The size and strength of a player doesnt matter...you can have all the muscles you want, but if you dont have a proper swing plane it wont even matter...
Just like you can be a small player, but a proper swing will launch the ball...
Not saying the balls are not juiced.....but the training players have today and technology/tools/training/gear available make it so much easier than back in the day...even just a few years ago
Read the links I posted. People who know their stuff all ready tested all these theories you guys keep redundantly bringing up.
The ball travels only 1 foot farther for every mph of pitch velocity. Guys in the minors aren't throwing 85.
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:
Pithcers throw alot harder in the big leagues, than minors...meaning solid contact will fly much, much further
The size and strength of a player doesnt matter...you can have all the muscles you want, but if you dont have a proper swing plane it wont even matter...
Just like you can be a small player, but a proper swing will launch the ball...
Not saying the balls are not juiced.....but the training players have today and technology/tools/training/gear available make it so much easier than back in the day...even just a few years ago
Read the links I posted. People who know their stuff all ready tested all these theories you guys keep redundantly bringing up.
The ball travels only 1 foot farther for every mph of pitch velocity. Guys in the minors aren't throwing 85.
Read the links I posted. People who know their stuff all ready tested all these theories you guys keep redundantly bringing up.
The ball travels only 1 foot farther for every mph of pitch velocity. Guys in the minors aren't throwing 85.
Articles mean nothing....if the ball is juiced, how do you explain low-scoring games or when its 9-2? Only one team gets the juiced balls?
It is all about the guys in the majors throwing 95+ and good swings...
Yeah, guys in the minors dont throw 85, but not many throw 92+....believe me I played twice befiore I tore my rotator-cuff twice....
The training players go through now, and everything available to them is out of control....
My nephew lives in Florida, 13, and plays travel ball. They moved up to full fields this year...His team hits 5+ homers a game...these 13 year old kids are hitting the ball 350+...
I guess they used juiced balls?
Games evolve...plain and simple
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:
Read the links I posted. People who know their stuff all ready tested all these theories you guys keep redundantly bringing up.
The ball travels only 1 foot farther for every mph of pitch velocity. Guys in the minors aren't throwing 85.
Articles mean nothing....if the ball is juiced, how do you explain low-scoring games or when its 9-2? Only one team gets the juiced balls?
It is all about the guys in the majors throwing 95+ and good swings...
Yeah, guys in the minors dont throw 85, but not many throw 92+....believe me I played twice befiore I tore my rotator-cuff twice....
The training players go through now, and everything available to them is out of control....
My nephew lives in Florida, 13, and plays travel ball. They moved up to full fields this year...His team hits 5+ homers a game...these 13 year old kids are hitting the ball 350+...
Exactly. Speaking of morons. Now you confirmed it. Before that I thought you may have had some sort of a blackout or something... But, now, it is all clear.
If there are more runs mr Moron, because the ball is "juiced", the pitchers have worse conditions for preparation, or, whatever the reason for more home runs resulting in more runs driven in as the home runs aren't always singles - doesn't that affect the totals? (Under/Over)? Yes. It does. But, you, mr Moron - don't realize that, pretend not to realize, or, .... you're simple a moron. IMO. all the answers are right
The same butchering of the English language, posts that make no sense at all...How many aliases do you have, Phixer?
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Quote Originally Posted by Mick960:
Exactly. Speaking of morons. Now you confirmed it. Before that I thought you may have had some sort of a blackout or something... But, now, it is all clear.
If there are more runs mr Moron, because the ball is "juiced", the pitchers have worse conditions for preparation, or, whatever the reason for more home runs resulting in more runs driven in as the home runs aren't always singles - doesn't that affect the totals? (Under/Over)? Yes. It does. But, you, mr Moron - don't realize that, pretend not to realize, or, .... you're simple a moron. IMO. all the answers are right
The same butchering of the English language, posts that make no sense at all...How many aliases do you have, Phixer?
Exactly. Speaking of morons. Now you confirmed it. Before that I thought you may have had some sort of a blackout or something... But, now, it is all clear.
If there are more runs mr Moron, because the ball is "juiced", the pitchers have worse conditions for preparation, or, whatever the reason for more home runs resulting in more runs driven in as the home runs aren't always singles - doesn't that affect the totals? (Under/Over)? Yes. It does. But, you, mr Moron - don't realize that, pretend not to realize, or, .... you're simple a moron. IMO. all the answers are right
And like you were told many times before your latest ban, stop posting when you're drinking. You make yourself so obvious.
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Quote Originally Posted by Mick960:
Exactly. Speaking of morons. Now you confirmed it. Before that I thought you may have had some sort of a blackout or something... But, now, it is all clear.
If there are more runs mr Moron, because the ball is "juiced", the pitchers have worse conditions for preparation, or, whatever the reason for more home runs resulting in more runs driven in as the home runs aren't always singles - doesn't that affect the totals? (Under/Over)? Yes. It does. But, you, mr Moron - don't realize that, pretend not to realize, or, .... you're simple a moron. IMO. all the answers are right
And like you were told many times before your latest ban, stop posting when you're drinking. You make yourself so obvious.
why doesnt a player just take a ball home and send it to a lab for testing... everyones acting like its black magic or ghosts. its a fkkin ball if this was a serious problem whats so hard about comparing it to a ball from 2014 in a lab test.
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why doesnt a player just take a ball home and send it to a lab for testing... everyones acting like its black magic or ghosts. its a fkkin ball if this was a serious problem whats so hard about comparing it to a ball from 2014 in a lab test.
why doesnt a player just take a ball home and send it to a lab for testing... everyones acting like its black magic or ghosts. its a fkkin ball if this was a serious problem whats so hard about comparing it to a ball from 2014 in a lab test.
Thats the funny part, do you think the MLB would let fans keep foul balls and homerun balls if they were juiced
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Quote Originally Posted by justlol:
why doesnt a player just take a ball home and send it to a lab for testing... everyones acting like its black magic or ghosts. its a fkkin ball if this was a serious problem whats so hard about comparing it to a ball from 2014 in a lab test.
Thats the funny part, do you think the MLB would let fans keep foul balls and homerun balls if they were juiced
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