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Also, I heard today that " Manfred" Mann is talking about expansion? Are you fukking serious? You already have .140 hitters on Major League rosters and you want to add more teams when you already have a totally depleted talent pool? This guy's an idiot....
 
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:



That link you posted stopped at 2012 for HR's hit in a year.

2012=4934
2013=4661
2014=4186
2015=4909
2016=5610


Look at the downward trend in HR's from 2012 to 2014. Then, 2015 is the year in question when the "new ball" was introduced.

2015 First Half(pre all star game) = 1 HR hit for every 35.78 AB's
2015 2nd Half(post all star game) = 1 HR hit for every 31.51 AB's

Pretty cut n dry to me


Do you realize the effect weather has on how a ball travels?  The first two months of the season is usually played in cold/wet rainy weather  which has a HUGE correlation with how the ball travels...

If you notice over/unders the first two months of the season....rarely if ever will an over by over 9...

Come the summer, almost every over is 9+, with multiple 10 and above

 
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You are blaming the weather for a 723 HR increase from one year to the next...


A good portion of the "summer" starts in the 1H of a season.

I'm done
 
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https://sportslistoftheday.com/2013/01/09/total-home-runs-hit-in-major-league-baseball-by-season-and-the-top-20-years-with-the-most-home-runs/

What happened in 2015-2016 is only a 14-percentish increase. Not anything significant from what occurred earlier.

If I were too investigate MLB for something fishy going on, look at what happened in 1918-1919 where there was a ___74%___ increase in HR/game.

The years 1918-1919 is  what I would focus on because the normal ups and downs percentage-wise wouldnt draw too much attention to someone looking at the data.

We still have a 100+ year trend in place and this clearly isnt entirely due to juiced balls.

The factors of why the trend is increasing have been mentioned already. But....I suspect just due to the fact that humans have a performance maximum, the peak(number of HRs/game) isnt that far away.

If we do reach new peaks there will be a new controversy following it I'm sure. Maybe it will be CO2 levels, temp levels, number of seagulls that year, whatever....

 
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

You are blaming the weather for a 723 HR increase from one year to the next...


A good portion of the "summer" starts in the 1H of a season.

I'm done
Forget it, Sac. They just don't get it....Even the players are complaining about it, but these kids in here know more than the players.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:

Forget it, Sac. They just don't get it....Even the players are complaining about it, but these kids in here know more than the players.




so true
 
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For those that think blisters are some type of recent thing....

https://sports.vice.com/en_us/article/8qy8ev/twisted-blister-rich-hill-and-baseballs-biggest-little-injury


Wow...juiced balls even in Nolan Ryan's day...

As with just about everything else in baseball, there are different schools of thought about the prevention and treatment of blisters. Some of these schools are rooted in science, and others in something more accurately described as folklore. One of the sport's most terrifying blister prevention routines belonged to Hall of Famer pitcher Nolan Ryan, who suffered from blisters when he was breaking in with the Mets.


Mike Marshall, the Cy Young-winning relief pitcher turned kinesiologist, told VICE Sports that ideally, a pitcher should have soft and supple fingertips. He also can't believe that major league pitchers still struggle with blisters, because there's a simple solution.

"Getting blisters is a matter of whether or not they have their fingernails the right length," he said. "It's as simple as that. If the baseball comes off of a fingernail, it creates heat, and that's how you get a blister. You'd think they'd know how to do that by now."







 
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I had a couple blisters in my day. Pitching coach gave me super glue and told me to lay off the curve ball, throw more change ups.
 
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Blisters 

The worst offensive stats in 10+ years, besides HR totals...and the ball is juiced 


You guys are right....the "kids" in here know nothing.

1300+ players in the MLB, and 3 are complaining about blisters....so it has to be true 

Besides all of the stats that back up offenses going down....I still beg to ask one common question...

Would the MLB really allow fans to keep foul balls/homeruns if the ball was juiced/tainted??  Knowing how simple the average fan can test the ball??  Would they allow something like that to get out so easily?  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

You are blaming the weather for a 723 HR increase from one year to the next...


A good portion of the "summer" starts in the 1H of a season.

I'm done



Because Im a "kid" and know nothing....

There was a study done by the Department of Mathematics and Statistics, University of Nevada, Reno, Reno, Nevada in 2016...which you can easily find

Here is a portion of the conclusion:


The results show that, overall, offensive production is higher in warm temperatures compared to cold temperatures. Across all populations, runs scored, batting average, slugging percentage, and home runs show significant increases while walks show significant decreases in warm temperatures compared to cold temperatures. Additionally, the American League shows a much stronger impact of temperature on the statistics than the National League. Consistent with past findings, home runs were most affected by temperature, increasing from 1.79 per game in cold temperatures to 2.35 per game in warm temperatures for away and home batters combined. Runs scored, which is arguably the most important statistic of a MLB game, showed the second strongest response to temperature in this study, increasing from an average of 8.95 per game in cold temperatures to 10.08 per game in warm temperatures overall. Home batters playing for



April/May/early June...still falls into the colder weather part of the season...which is the majority of the first half of a baseball season...

 
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On MLB radio they were saying that because of the defensive shifts that the players are trying to hit it in the air now until they get 2 strikes. Justin Turner of the Dodgers said he definitely tries for Home Runs or Doubles because of the shifts. Could be a partial reason. Another is the ball is at the max as far as specs. Garciappara (spelled wrong I'm sure) said that he picked one up and it felt like a rock and the seams seemed flatter. 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by UPGRAYEDD:

On MLB radio they were saying that because of the defensive shifts that the players are trying to hit it in the air now until they get 2 strikes. Justin Turner of the Dodgers said he definitely tries for Home Runs or Doubles because of the shifts. Could be a partial reason. Another is the ball is at the max as far as specs. Garciappara (spelled wrong I'm sure) said that he picked one up and it felt like a rock and the seams seemed flatter. 


Which is the exact reason strikeouts rates have increased at a greater rate than homeruns the last 4 years.  A few years ago, only a handful of players would strikeout 200+ a year.  Now, multiple players on every team strikeout 200 times, heck 250+ a year.  It doesnt matter if its 3-1 or 0-2, players swing out of their shoes every pitch.  If you watch games now, hitters are missing the ball by a foot or more.  A few years ago, you wouldnt see the lineup if you struck out 200 times....now it doesnt matter because those same players also hit 30+ homeruns.  

The 'juiced' ball theory causing an increase in homeruns is an absolute joke.  You have to look at the entire game....yes homeruns are up, but strikeouts are up more, batting averages way down, doubles are down, sacrifices are down....



Games 10, heck even 5 years ago, when a player would get a leadoff double, 90% of the time there would be a sac bunt, or the players would atleast hit in on the ground to the right side....you rarely if ever see that anymore...
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:

Quote Originally Posted by UPGRAYEDD:

On MLB radio they were saying that because of the defensive shifts that the players are trying to hit it in the air now until they get 2 strikes. Justin Turner of the Dodgers said he definitely tries for Home Runs or Doubles because of the shifts. Could be a partial reason. Another is the ball is at the max as far as specs. Garciappara (spelled wrong I'm sure) said that he picked one up and it felt like a rock and the seams seemed flatter. 
Which is the exact reason strikeouts rates have increased at a greater rate than homeruns the last 4 years.  A few years ago, only a handful of players would strikeout 200+ a year.  Now, multiple players on every team strikeout 200 times, heck 250+ a year.  It doesnt matter if its 3-1 or 0-2, players swing out of their shoes every pitch.  If you watch games now, hitters are missing the ball by a foot or more.  A few years ago, you wouldnt see the lineup if you struck out 200 times....now it doesnt matter because those same players also hit 30+ homeruns.  The 'juiced' ball theory causing an increase in homeruns is an absolute joke.  You have to look at the entire game....yes homeruns are up, but strikeouts are up more, batting averages way down, doubles are down, sacrifices are down....Games 10, heck even 5 years ago, when a player would get a leadoff double, 90% of the time there would be a sac bunt, or the players would atleast hit in on the ground to the right side....you rarely if ever see that anymore...

You are either: A) Incredibly naive
B) An employee of MLB
C) Both A and B
 
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I resign from this thread. It has used up its shelf life and degenerated to argument instead of discussion. Blame global warming I guess.
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Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:

Which is the exact reason strikeouts rates have increased at a greater rate than homeruns the last 4 years.  A few years ago, only a handful of players would strikeout 200+ a year.  Now, multiple players on every team strikeout 200 times, heck 250+ a year.  It doesnt matter if its 3-1 or 0-2, players swing out of their shoes every pitch.  If you watch games now, hitters are missing the ball by a foot or more.  A few years ago, you wouldnt see the lineup if you struck out 200 times....now it doesnt matter because those same players also hit 30+ homeruns.  The 'juiced' ball theory causing an increase in homeruns is an absolute joke.  You have to look at the entire game....yes homeruns are up, but strikeouts are up more, batting averages way down, doubles are down, sacrifices are down....Games 10, heck even 5 years ago, when a player would get a leadoff double, 90% of the time there would be a sac bunt, or the players would atleast hit in on the ground to the right side....you rarely if ever see that anymore...
You are either: A) Incredibly naive
B) An employee of MLB
C) Both A and B



No you guys are right, 5 pitchers of the 425 in the MLB have blisters...so they obviously have juiced the balls by changing the stiching 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LogCottage:

Which is the exact reason strikeouts rates have increased at a greater rate than homeruns the last 4 years.  A few years ago, only a handful of players would strikeout 200+ a year.  Now, multiple players on every team strikeout 200 times, heck 250+ a year.  It doesnt matter if its 3-1 or 0-2, players swing out of their shoes every pitch.  If you watch games now, hitters are missing the ball by a foot or more.  A few years ago, you wouldnt see the lineup if you struck out 200 times....now it doesnt matter because those same players also hit 30+ homeruns.  The 'juiced' ball theory causing an increase in homeruns is an absolute joke.  You have to look at the entire game....yes homeruns are up, but strikeouts are up more, batting averages way down, doubles are down, sacrifices are down....Games 10, heck even 5 years ago, when a player would get a leadoff double, 90% of the time there would be a sac bunt, or the players would atleast hit in on the ground to the right side....you rarely if ever see that anymore...
You are either: A) Incredibly naive
B) An employee of MLB
C) Both A and B


Please answer why not one foul ball or homerun ball has been tested by a fan?  With all the conspiracies out there, you dont think someone would have tested a ball?  
 
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58 home runs were hit on Friday, the most in MLB history on a day with no more than 15 games.

Joey Gallo has 35 home runs,  but only 20 singles.

There will be approximately 140 players with 100+ strike outs this year.

There will be more 100+ strike out batters this year than from 1900 to 1960 combined.

All reports  per Tim Kurkjian  
 
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Quote Originally Posted by LETGOPACK1234:



Please answer why not one foul ball or homerun ball has been tested by a fan?  With all the conspiracies out there, you dont think someone would have tested a ball?  

I highly doubt that the average Joe is qualified to test a baseball. So he will use a hacksaw, cut it open, then what?

One of the articles stated that the minor changes to the ball were still within the guidelines of what constitutes a "legal ball"

But those changes still gave it about 7.5 added feet of flight.
 
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Quote Originally Posted by undermysac:

58 home runs were hit on Friday, the most in MLB history on a day with no more than 15 games.

Joey Gallo has 35 home runs,  but only 20 singles.

There will be approximately 140 players with 100+ strike outs this year.

There will be more 100+ strike out batters this year than from 1900 to 1960 combined.

All reports  per Tim Kurkjian  

I did hear that Friday had the 2nd most HRs hit on a single day in MLB history. I also saw a few weeks back that Gallo had a good chance of being the 1st MLBer to hit 40+ HRs with a sub .200 BA.  He's "up" to .208 right now but his career average is still .198. Hysterical. Steve Balboni  and Rob Deere would be thriving right now.
 
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The Orioles broke the record for most homeruns in the month of August by any single team.

The Cubs are the first team to have 5 players under the age of 25 to have 20+ homeruns...with a month of baseball left.

HR's hit in August by year:

2014=724 
2015=922
2016=1053
2017=1119

This past month broke the record for HR's hit in a month...again. August, June and May of 2017 hold 3 of the top 4 months, in history, of most HR's hit.

It's common place now, getting boring...the league is gonna have to find a way to increase scoring soon.


 
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Found it

 
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get rid of that god bless america and the phony military patriotism ceremonies, that'll make the games shorter
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

get rid of that god bless america and the phony military patriotism ceremonies, that'll make the games shorter
If you organize a national boycott of advertisers products you will get shorter games, but they will be on pay-per-view. Instead of the greatest sports event of the year for free, how much are you willing to pay?
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Nothing that i mentioned has anything to do with advertisers.
Why do they keep trying to brainwash ppl with these lame military ceremonies and fake patriotism?
USA is a corporation and they are creating concentration camps nationwide. Look into what they are doing with the walmarts nowadays. Look into fema barges and fema camps. It is illegal now in many cities to be homeless. 
The world 'elite' view the population as useless eaters. With all the toxic aerosol spraying that USAF is involved in destroying the biosphere, the last thing i wanna see is anything to do with the military when i'm watching a sporting event.  
 
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BowmansAddict:

get rid of that god bless america and the phony military patriotism ceremonies, that'll make the games shorter


The longest game times of this series were far and away some of the best games in this series and that I have witnessed.



 If you get 28 hits between two teams you should just expect the game time to be high.

A very fast game means a pitcher's duel which I like occasionally but post-game comments about it being a "great" game are few.
Very few what-ifs to talk about post-game in a 1-0 pitcher's duel.



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