still have a game going on but thought about you checking percentages and am VERY THANKFUL FOR YOUR THREAD IN THAT REGARD... good stuff to know
@PUSSYGALORE333
I agree with you. Win percentages only tell a certain aspect, and it's limited.
So I came up with the UNITS per PICK ratio as much more indicative, though in itself not by any means perfect for assessing the skill of a handicapper to pick winners. But that should be the goal. In fact I think it's a useful measure for anyone to use on their own performance in various sports and/or categories of bets, such as sides or totals or props.
There's a couple more guys I will review but this may take some time to verify their picks
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Quote Originally Posted by PUSSYGALORE333:
still have a game going on but thought about you checking percentages and am VERY THANKFUL FOR YOUR THREAD IN THAT REGARD... good stuff to know
@PUSSYGALORE333
I agree with you. Win percentages only tell a certain aspect, and it's limited.
So I came up with the UNITS per PICK ratio as much more indicative, though in itself not by any means perfect for assessing the skill of a handicapper to pick winners. But that should be the goal. In fact I think it's a useful measure for anyone to use on their own performance in various sports and/or categories of bets, such as sides or totals or props.
There's a couple more guys I will review but this may take some time to verify their picks
Units per pick ratio is similar to ROR (which is a good thing). There’s no hiding behind false numbers with such metrics and yet hardly anyone presents it.
KeyElement does, and Weebs is so transparent you can probably work his out, but nobody else
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Units per pick ratio is similar to ROR (which is a good thing). There’s no hiding behind false numbers with such metrics and yet hardly anyone presents it.
KeyElement does, and Weebs is so transparent you can probably work his out, but nobody else
So I came up with the UNITS per PICK ratio as much more indicative, though in itself not by any means perfect for assessing the skill of a handicapper to pick winners. But that should be the goal. In fact I think it's a useful measure for anyone to use on their own performance in various sports and/or categories of bets, such as sides or totals or props.
solid idea ! and i agree a good tool for all of us to use to assess our own
i like that units cannot be manipulated following the formula for units per pick ratio
really cool to see our forum mod among top guys !!
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
So I came up with the UNITS per PICK ratio as much more indicative, though in itself not by any means perfect for assessing the skill of a handicapper to pick winners. But that should be the goal. In fact I think it's a useful measure for anyone to use on their own performance in various sports and/or categories of bets, such as sides or totals or props.
solid idea ! and i agree a good tool for all of us to use to assess our own
i like that units cannot be manipulated following the formula for units per pick ratio
really cool to see our forum mod among top guys !!
My capping skills teeter on the weak side so I try to watch the winning and/or popular handicappers to learn how they succeed and maybe pick up some tips to improve my game. I do not tail these people, but I frequently check their picks to see if maybe I should re-examine my own when they oppose.
Here are the results of the top 6 records I was able to verify plus a couple other very popular members!
I analyzed their posted picks from the perspective of a lurker who would bet just one unit on each of their picks that were posted before gametime. Multi-unit designations are disregarded since how much money one claims to bet is irrelevent to his ability to pick more winners than losers. Also LIVE game action bets and pushes are not counted. 100 picks minimum needed to qualify in TOP HANDICAPPER category.
This is neither intended to backpat anyone nor demean anyone. If you read it negatively then YOU are reading it wrong. I don't have the time nor inclination to score forum records for everybody. Unfortunately the limits of Covers.com SEARCH function (or profile posts or Google) makes it exceedlingly daunting to backtrack and verify records of some popular handicappers, especially their April picks/threads.
+ 3.08 Kaufee - 8.81 Brooklyncapper* (only from May 6 to date) *Covers.search only goes back to May 6, and Google searches were futile
Net Units per Pick ratio: (calculated on one unit every pick) This ratio is highly indicative of handicapping skill
0.171 fubah2 (44.60 units from 260 picks) 0.126 Kinger7650 (12.45 units from 99 picks)* 0.111 Coloneljim (25.34 units from 227 picks) 0.093 Kingcapper77 (12.93 from 139 picks) 0.049 *Kaufee (3.08 from 63 picks; *far short of minimum 100) 0.038 SteveA2009 (13.16 units from 344 picks) 0.034 weeble5672 (32.97 units from 970 picks) -0.07 Brooklyncapper* (-8.81 units from 121 picks since May 6)
"@zircon, I appreciate you brother! You're a GOOD dude, anyone can see that!" -Wizerg
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TOP MLB forum cappers of note
My capping skills teeter on the weak side so I try to watch the winning and/or popular handicappers to learn how they succeed and maybe pick up some tips to improve my game. I do not tail these people, but I frequently check their picks to see if maybe I should re-examine my own when they oppose.
Here are the results of the top 6 records I was able to verify plus a couple other very popular members!
I analyzed their posted picks from the perspective of a lurker who would bet just one unit on each of their picks that were posted before gametime. Multi-unit designations are disregarded since how much money one claims to bet is irrelevent to his ability to pick more winners than losers. Also LIVE game action bets and pushes are not counted. 100 picks minimum needed to qualify in TOP HANDICAPPER category.
This is neither intended to backpat anyone nor demean anyone. If you read it negatively then YOU are reading it wrong. I don't have the time nor inclination to score forum records for everybody. Unfortunately the limits of Covers.com SEARCH function (or profile posts or Google) makes it exceedlingly daunting to backtrack and verify records of some popular handicappers, especially their April picks/threads.
+ 3.08 Kaufee - 8.81 Brooklyncapper* (only from May 6 to date) *Covers.search only goes back to May 6, and Google searches were futile
Net Units per Pick ratio: (calculated on one unit every pick) This ratio is highly indicative of handicapping skill
0.171 fubah2 (44.60 units from 260 picks) 0.126 Kinger7650 (12.45 units from 99 picks)* 0.111 Coloneljim (25.34 units from 227 picks) 0.093 Kingcapper77 (12.93 from 139 picks) 0.049 *Kaufee (3.08 from 63 picks; *far short of minimum 100) 0.038 SteveA2009 (13.16 units from 344 picks) 0.034 weeble5672 (32.97 units from 970 picks) -0.07 Brooklyncapper* (-8.81 units from 121 picks since May 6)
Okay. Just spent 6.5 hrs tracking the picks of two forum members that others suggested had GOOD profitable records and worthy of review. (6.5 hrs tedious work) Before I get to their records it needs to be understood that this is not in any way intended to demean or to lavish praise. Personally I don't know either of these two but being forced to read all their threads to get the scoring I can see they are both gentlemen, pleasant, and popular among many.
For the TOP HANDICAPPERS chart there are some important criteria. The goal here is to identify those who are particularly adept at "picking more winners than losers." For that reason, multiple-unit designations must be disregarded - since how much $$$ a person wants us to believe he is betting is entirely irrelevent to selecting winning picks. Of course it means something to the bettor, but irrelevent to the rest of us. Just your picks results (with associated juice) is what matters to us onlookers! Scoring everybody's picks by the same "one unit standard" is completely fair and a very good indicator for skill with "picking more winners than losers"
Likewise, all LIVE INGAME bets are disregarded, as well as pushes.
100 picks is the minimum threshold to rule out small sample size variance. (luck)
I'll update the TOP HANDICAPPERS chart again after the weekend, but right now here are the results after suggesting I review these two guys:
FunkyRufus (through June 21)
April: 3-5 -2.55 units May: 13-11 -0.60 units June: 22-15 +5.85 units
YTD: 38-31 +2.70 units (does not qualify)
Bettorific (**through June 21)
**I cannot verify this man's picks prior to May 5! He claimed his record at that point was 21-32 -17.90 units so we will go with that.
Apr - May 4: 21-32 -17.90 units May 5 to 31: 82-46 +27.81 units June to date: 67-51 +5.96 units
YTD: 170-129 +15.87 units
With that, Bettorific makes his debut among the TOP HANDICAPPERS! Congrats! Thank you to @Ramanujan for suggesting Bettorific deserves a look, particularly if you enjoy NRFI prop bets!
"@zircon, I appreciate you brother! You're a GOOD dude, anyone can see that!" -Wizerg
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Okay. Just spent 6.5 hrs tracking the picks of two forum members that others suggested had GOOD profitable records and worthy of review. (6.5 hrs tedious work) Before I get to their records it needs to be understood that this is not in any way intended to demean or to lavish praise. Personally I don't know either of these two but being forced to read all their threads to get the scoring I can see they are both gentlemen, pleasant, and popular among many.
For the TOP HANDICAPPERS chart there are some important criteria. The goal here is to identify those who are particularly adept at "picking more winners than losers." For that reason, multiple-unit designations must be disregarded - since how much $$$ a person wants us to believe he is betting is entirely irrelevent to selecting winning picks. Of course it means something to the bettor, but irrelevent to the rest of us. Just your picks results (with associated juice) is what matters to us onlookers! Scoring everybody's picks by the same "one unit standard" is completely fair and a very good indicator for skill with "picking more winners than losers"
Likewise, all LIVE INGAME bets are disregarded, as well as pushes.
100 picks is the minimum threshold to rule out small sample size variance. (luck)
I'll update the TOP HANDICAPPERS chart again after the weekend, but right now here are the results after suggesting I review these two guys:
FunkyRufus (through June 21)
April: 3-5 -2.55 units May: 13-11 -0.60 units June: 22-15 +5.85 units
YTD: 38-31 +2.70 units (does not qualify)
Bettorific (**through June 21)
**I cannot verify this man's picks prior to May 5! He claimed his record at that point was 21-32 -17.90 units so we will go with that.
Apr - May 4: 21-32 -17.90 units May 5 to 31: 82-46 +27.81 units June to date: 67-51 +5.96 units
YTD: 170-129 +15.87 units
With that, Bettorific makes his debut among the TOP HANDICAPPERS! Congrats! Thank you to @Ramanujan for suggesting Bettorific deserves a look, particularly if you enjoy NRFI prop bets!
Multi-unit designations are stripped away since that is totally irrelevent to one's ability to pick more winners than losers.
This is so true and something people these days are just clueless about
I see guys saying "oh man im up 200 units" and it just completely undermines the term "units" when youre betting 5, 10, 25 units a game.
Units are SUPPOSED to be used to determine if your plays are profitable betting the same each game. Who cares if youre up 10 units if you had to bet 50 units on the last game to get there
I really cant take anyone serious if they dont first off track their record (everyone THINKS theyre up while very few are) and if they get crazy on unit size. To bump up to 1.5 or 2 occasionally is one thing but if youre going more than that with any regularity its just garbage. Its just low level chasing, unrealistic, and the approach of someone who wants to APPEAR up to a bunch of strangers
Nice work
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
Multi-unit designations are stripped away since that is totally irrelevent to one's ability to pick more winners than losers.
This is so true and something people these days are just clueless about
I see guys saying "oh man im up 200 units" and it just completely undermines the term "units" when youre betting 5, 10, 25 units a game.
Units are SUPPOSED to be used to determine if your plays are profitable betting the same each game. Who cares if youre up 10 units if you had to bet 50 units on the last game to get there
I really cant take anyone serious if they dont first off track their record (everyone THINKS theyre up while very few are) and if they get crazy on unit size. To bump up to 1.5 or 2 occasionally is one thing but if youre going more than that with any regularity its just garbage. Its just low level chasing, unrealistic, and the approach of someone who wants to APPEAR up to a bunch of strangers
MLB is a tough slog for most. You're skills are doing fine if you can generate a positive unit record!
My handycapping skills teeter on the weak side so I try to watch the winning and/or popular handicappers to learn how they succeed and maybe pick up some tips to improve my game. I do not tail these people, but I frequently check their picks to see if maybe I should re-examine my own when they oppose.
Below are the results of the top records I was able to verify plus a few other popular members I was suggested to verify!
-- I analyzed their posted picks from the perspective of a lurker who would bet just one unit on each of their picks that were posted before gametime. -- Multi-unit designations are disregarded, since how much money one claims to bet is irrelevent to his ability to pick more winners than losers. -- LIVE game action bets and pushes are not counted. -- 100 picks minimum needed to qualify in TOP HANDICAPPER category.
This is neither intended to backpat anyone nor demean anyone. If you read it negatively then YOU are reading it wrong. I don't have the time nor inclination to score forum records for everybody, so no more requests, thank you. Unfortunately the limits of Covers.com SEARCH function (or profile posts or Google) makes it exceedlingly daunting to backtrack and verify records of some popular handicappers, especially their April picks/threads.
See next post: forum moderator, weeble5672, way out in front
"@zircon, I appreciate you brother! You're a GOOD dude, anyone can see that!" -Wizerg
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June 30 UPDATE
TOP MLB forum cappers of note to end of June:
MLB is a tough slog for most. You're skills are doing fine if you can generate a positive unit record!
My handycapping skills teeter on the weak side so I try to watch the winning and/or popular handicappers to learn how they succeed and maybe pick up some tips to improve my game. I do not tail these people, but I frequently check their picks to see if maybe I should re-examine my own when they oppose.
Below are the results of the top records I was able to verify plus a few other popular members I was suggested to verify!
-- I analyzed their posted picks from the perspective of a lurker who would bet just one unit on each of their picks that were posted before gametime. -- Multi-unit designations are disregarded, since how much money one claims to bet is irrelevent to his ability to pick more winners than losers. -- LIVE game action bets and pushes are not counted. -- 100 picks minimum needed to qualify in TOP HANDICAPPER category.
This is neither intended to backpat anyone nor demean anyone. If you read it negatively then YOU are reading it wrong. I don't have the time nor inclination to score forum records for everybody, so no more requests, thank you. Unfortunately the limits of Covers.com SEARCH function (or profile posts or Google) makes it exceedlingly daunting to backtrack and verify records of some popular handicappers, especially their April picks/threads.
See next post: forum moderator, weeble5672, way out in front
June 30 UPDATE TOP MLB forum cappers of note to end of June:
Below are the results of the top records I was able to verify plus a few other popular members I was suggested to verify!
-- I analyzed their posted picks from the perspective of a lurker who would bet just one unit on each of their picks that were posted before gametime. -- Multi-unit designations are disregarded, since how much money one claims to bet is irrelevent to his ability to pick more winners than losers. -- LIVE game action bets and pushes are not counted. -- 100 picks minimum needed to qualify in TOP HANDICAPPER category.
This is neither intended to backpat anyone nor demean anyone. If you read it negatively then YOU are reading it wrong.
+3.39 SteveA2009 +3.08 Kaufee (does not have 100 pick minimum)
- 4.80 FunkyRufus -18.72 *Brooklyncapper* (only from May 6 to date) *Covers.search only goes back to May 6, and Google searches were futile
See next post: NET UNITS per PICK ratio
"@zircon, I appreciate you brother! You're a GOOD dude, anyone can see that!" -Wizerg
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Quote Originally Posted by zircon:
June 30 UPDATE TOP MLB forum cappers of note to end of June:
Below are the results of the top records I was able to verify plus a few other popular members I was suggested to verify!
-- I analyzed their posted picks from the perspective of a lurker who would bet just one unit on each of their picks that were posted before gametime. -- Multi-unit designations are disregarded, since how much money one claims to bet is irrelevent to his ability to pick more winners than losers. -- LIVE game action bets and pushes are not counted. -- 100 picks minimum needed to qualify in TOP HANDICAPPER category.
This is neither intended to backpat anyone nor demean anyone. If you read it negatively then YOU are reading it wrong.
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