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Leave it to Desmond to provide the seasons game changer. This is why he is my favorite character. Every episode he is in is amazing. This wasn't quite as good as the Constant but it was very close. 

Well we learned two very important things this episode: the flash sideways are relevant and the the alt timeline is not how the show will end (thank god).

Love seems to be the key to bridging the gap between the two timelines which now appear to be running together. Desmond has seen the light (praise Jesus) and is on a mission to show the other 815'ers the life they could have lived. This is going to lead all of them to return back the island in what should be a kick ass return.

One thing i am totally LOST on (see what i did there) is Eloise. She clearly knew exactly what Desmond was looking for. This shows she knows what is going on and i have no clue how she does. I would be surprised if Charles sent Des there just so he would talk to her. Did anybody else noticed that flash of orange light that appeared when they were talking? It is probably a mistake but this show has lead me to never throw anything out.

Just a sick episode.


 
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ok i looked into the orange lights and i really am losing my mind. this show has made me paranoid thinking everything matters. please ignore the orange light question
 
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Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:

Leave it to Desmond to provide the seasons game changer. This is why he is my favorite character. Every episode he is in is amazing. This wasn't quite as good as the Constant but it was very close. 

Well we learned two very important things this episode: the flash sideways are relevant and the the alt timeline is not how the show will end (thank god).

Love seems to be the key to bridging the gap between the two timelines which now appear to be running together. Desmond has seen the light (praise Jesus) and is on a mission to show the other 815'ers the life they could have lived. This is going to lead all of them to return back the island in what should be a kick ass return.

One thing i am totally LOST on (see what i did there) is Eloise. She clearly knew exactly what Desmond was looking for. This shows she knows what is going on and i have no clue how she does. I would be surprised if Charles sent Des there just so he would talk to her. Did anybody else noticed that flash of orange light that appeared when they were talking? It is probably a mistake but this show has lead me to never throw anything out.

Just a sick episode.


Just finished watching it.....I've not missed an episode but I always come here afterwards to see your take on it. When it's all over I hope it all makes sense cause it is very puzzling at times and hard to piece things together.     Next week should be good.

Desmond is probably my favourite character too. 

 
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We all knew both timelines would connect somehow.  Now we see how the two are connected.  I was pumped to see Desmond decide he wants to prevent the flash sideways from coming true.  Now he will have to round up all the passengers and tell them what they could have had.  I do not know how he is going to do it seeing as there are some characters who seem to be better off in the flash sideways than they are in the original timeline.
 
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it will be interesting to see if everybody is needed once again in order to be able to "switch" timelines. 
 
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another great episode. i am really speechless when it comes to Illana. I was not expecting that at all but it was awesome at the same time.  She was becoming pretty annoying and she was played by jacob.  My most hated character made his return back to the show to provide us with an answer that most be people have wanted to know since day 1, the whispers.  I am actually a little disappointed because it felt pretty forced to me. 

i am dying to know how hurley has been able communicate with the dead.  was this passed onto him when he was touched by jacob? I think everybody he touches gets some sort of super power. Richard and Jack can't die and Hurley can talk to dead people. Speaking of Jacob, even though he is dead, MIB is still terrified of him when he sees who i am assuming was jacob.  I really hope we see what went down between these two and why MIB is so afraid of him.

Any thoughts on why MIB didn't just kill desmond? What does stuffing him down a well accomplish.  It does look like Sayid will be called to action next week to take care of the task.  Even money says he doesn't go through with it. I can't wait to see how running over locke is going to make him "see" what he needs to. Maybe he will visit him in the hospital and tell him that he used to be able to walk.

Finally, the face that MIB made when he saw Jack so really strange.  It's almost like he was shocked but also pissed at the same time.  Either way, he know has everybody he needs minus Jin to accomplish his "mission"

Any questions/comments/observations/theories?
 
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I may be too confused at this point to understand anything but....Explain this to me if you can......

In the world of [ The plane NOT crashing ]  Didn't Hurley have nothing but bad luck before he got on the plane after he won the lottery?....Where is that now?....and where the heck is Cheech Marin?

Are you gonna watch Happy Town?  Hope so,that looks like it might be confusing too. 

 
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The life in which Hurley has bad luck is the one you see with them on the island now. When juliet detonated the bomb in the finale, that trigged an alt. timeline in which their lives are now different, including hurley now having a great life. 

In my opinion, someone or something caused this alt. timeline to appear as the life the characters would have wanted. But we can see no with desmond "showing" all of them that it is the other life they should want. Hopefully that makes sense. I usually give a show a couple episodes so i probably tune in to Happy Town when i get a chance. Keep the questions and comments coming, it is good to hear what other people think with a show like LOST
 
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Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:

Cold...

The life in which Hurley has bad luck is the one you see with them on the island now. When juliet detonated the bomb in the finale, that trigged an alt. timeline in which their lives are now different, including hurley now having a great life. 

In my opinion, someone or something caused this alt. timeline to appear as the life the characters would have wanted. But we can see no with desmond "showing" all of them that it is the other life they should want. Hopefully that makes sense. I usually give a show a couple episodes so i probably tune in to Happy Town when i get a chance. Keep the questions and comments coming, it is good to hear what other people think with a show like LOST

Well that helps me somewhat.....I thought their lives just continued the way it would be from the time of the plane NOT crashing.

I think one of my problems is I concentrated more on what was going on ON the island and didn't keep enough info stored in my head from what happened to all the passangers in flashbacks the first few seasons. 

So.....In the no-crash world..Can Sun speak english?

 
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Quote Originally Posted by yuice20:

another great episode. i am really speechless when it comes to Illana. I was not expecting that at all but it was awesome at the same time.  She was becoming pretty annoying and she was played by jacob.  My most hated character made his return back to the show to provide us with an answer that most be people have wanted to know since day 1, the whispers.  I am actually a little disappointed because it felt pretty forced to me. 

i am dying to know how hurley has been able communicate with the dead.  was this passed onto him when he was touched by jacob? I think everybody he touches gets some sort of super power. Richard and Jack can't die and Hurley can talk to dead people. Speaking of Jacob, even though he is dead, MIB is still terrified of him when he sees who i am assuming was jacob.  I really hope we see what went down between these two and why MIB is so afraid of him.

Any thoughts on why MIB didn't just kill desmond? What does stuffing him down a well accomplish.  It does look like Sayid will be called to action next week to take care of the task.  Even money says he doesn't go through with it. I can't wait to see how running over locke is going to make him "see" what he needs to. Maybe he will visit him in the hospital and tell him that he used to be able to walk.

Finally, the face that MIB made when he saw Jack so really strange.  It's almost like he was shocked but also pissed at the same time.  Either way, he know has everybody he needs minus Jin to accomplish his "mission"

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some thoughts.....

I too was shocked by llana....just when she was looking doable,  off she goes...yet it probably was time

Michael blows agreed, so glad no episode was focused on his boring ass.....

I too believe the kid is Jacob.....just seems to happy with his visits to MIB not to be.....and I am relatively certain we will get the who/what/when/where/why with him and MIB........

I now truly don't think Desmond can be killed,,,,,,,,I also think that him willingly going with Sayid, and then MIB to the well......is all part of Widmore's plan......Des actually had a huge smile on his face immediately before he gets shoved down.........

IMO Sayid will be the next to die.......they've pretty much killed his character already and almost no one at this point will be sad to see him go,,,,,,

As for running over lock........I saw this as foreshadowing.......Des and company will eventually take down Locke/MIB.......

and finally, the look on MIB's face.......I thought was analogous to the look he used to give the adult Jacob..........pretty much confirmed for me that Jack is supposed to be the replacement

 
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I think the kid was Desmond.  Perhaps young Faraday. 

I think there's something very signiifficant about the fact that Desmond isn't "affraid."   This seemed to unsettle MIB.  He preys on fear.  The absence of fear is not good news for him.

I think they've used an audio trick several times this season, where a character says something, but it's not really a word.  Last night, when asked why he blew up the dynamite, Hurley said he was "protecting [non-word]"  I played it back several time and it can either be heard as "us" or "it," both of which make sense, but mean rather different things.  They've done that before this year.

I thought when Jack emerged from the woods, the voice that said "hello" was that of his father.  The cut to Floke's face looked like he hadn't just spoken, or had been listening to someone else speak.  I could be wrong.

I don't recall Hurley looking in a mirror in this episode, but he did get a (small) knock on the head (from mom).  Those seem to have some meaning, but I don't know what.

There are two babies kicking around here - the Kwon baby (probably the "Kwon" who's the candidate) and Aaron, born to a crazy mother, just like MIB.  If that really has any significance, I can only assume that the rest of the candidates will get wiped out - so it won't be Jack and Sawyer sitting on the beach chatting at the end of the show, it will be the Kwon Child and Aaron.  My head is starting to hurt.

 
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As for running over lock........I saw this as foreshadowing.......Des and company will eventually take down Locke/MIB.......

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I think this is more of Desmond's quest to "connect" people with whatever he needs to connect them with.  I will agree that running him over seems like an extreme way to to do that, but I think that's the Demond we were dealing with in that time line.

 
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More odd crap:

Flocke drank water last night.  I didn't think he needed to/could.

The fact that Kate's name is actually on the wall, but Flocke thinks she isn't, HAS to be a huge issue.  Flocke's going to let Clair kill her (or try), and that's going to be bad for business.

 
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Great points Maine. The two most important things you mentioned i think are desmond not being afraid and kate being on the wall. That is why MIB throws him down the well because he knows Desmond can cause some serious problems for him. There is nothing he can promise Desmond at this point because Desmond has seen the light.

As far as Kate goes, I don't recall whether or not she was touched by Jacob. If she was, she might not be able to die. I hope she wasn't but only time will tell. 
 
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She was touched when she tried to steal in the little country general store.
 
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thanks KQC. I thought she was but couldn't my finger on it
 
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I too thought the whole whispers to be forced.  I assumed the whole time that is what the voices were but was expecting more of a curveball when the the answer was given to us.  I thought Flocke was trying to kill Desmond by throwing him down the the well but was unsuccessful in doing so but does not know this yet.  Then again Flocke seems to have more sense than to leave loose ends so maybe trapping Desmond is part of a bigger plan.  I do not think there is enough time left in the show to get both the Kwon baby and Aaron to the island and to build them into the storyline so I think we will still be left with Jack as the new Jacob and Sawyer as the new MIB.  The whole show all Sawyer has wanted to do was leave the island, similar to what the MIB always says, that is why I think Sawyer will take his place.  Also he and Jack have never seen eye to eye so it just makes more sense that those would be the two left.
 
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I love reading everyone's theories.  However, I'm just throwing this out there:  When Flocke asks Desmond on the island "Do you know who I am?" and Desmond says "You're John Locke," I'm assuming that Des really DOESN'T know he's the MIB.

After that, Des gets thrown down the well by the man he THINKS is John Locke.  Therefore, in the "sideways" world, Des thinks he has to kill the real John Locke.  Is he making a mistake?

 
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That's very interesting.  Could well be right
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BKinNYC:

I love reading everyone's theories.  However, I'm just throwing this out there:  When Flocke asks Desmond on the island "Do you know who I am?" and Desmond says "You're John Locke," I'm assuming that Des really DOESN'T know he's the MIB.

After that, Des gets thrown down the well by the man he THINKS is John Locke.  Therefore, in the "sideways" world, Des thinks he has to kill the real John Locke.  Is he making a mistake?

I thought maybe if he killed John Locke in the side world that maybe somehow the MIB could be forced from John Locke's body in the "real" world.

Just a thought. Probably silly.

 
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I would like to know how they plan on wrapping all this up by May
 
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Quote Originally Posted by BKinNYC:

I love reading everyone's theories.  However, I'm just throwing this out there:  When Flocke asks Desmond on the island "Do you know who I am?" and Desmond says "You're John Locke," I'm assuming that Des really DOESN'T know he's the MIB.

After that, Des gets thrown down the well by the man he THINKS is John Locke.  Therefore, in the "sideways" world, Des thinks he has to kill the real John Locke.  Is he making a mistake?


I don't think he is trying to kill Locke. I think he might be trying to kill two birds with one stone. Locke ends up in the hospital and wouldn't ya know it, Jack will be the doctor looking out for him. Jack will try to convince Locke that he can operate and make him walk again and then Desmond enters saying something along the lines of "You can walk brother, don't you remember". 

Wether or not he knows if it is MIB, he still needs to get everybody back to the island in order to merge the two timelines. So killing Locke is out of the question in my opinion.
 
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I would like to know how they plan on wrapping all this up by May

I have no clue but all i know is we have 5 episodes left and they are going to be filled with action. I hope you guys don't mind but here are the remaining ep. titles. I always like to look at them to see if they reveal anything...

4/20: The Last Recruit
one week break for some reason
5/4: The Candidate
5/11: Across the Sea
5/18: What they died for
5/25: The End ( 2 hour finale)

If i had to guess, i would say Across the Sea is when we find out what really went down between Jacob and MIB

 
 
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Say it ain't so. Jack to the dark side? Darlton really wouldn't do that to us would they? Claire said exactly what Jacob said, once MIB says a word he already has you hooked. However, if anybody can withstand the dark side it is our resident savior Jack. I think it is pretty evident now that if they show ends with a new Jacob, Jack is number 1 on the list.  He is like the old John Locke, he believes he was indeed brought to the island for a reason and he has yet to fulfill that destiny.

Kate continues to escape the wrath of Claire..that is all on that subject.

I think that the Kwon on the list is defiantly Sun now that we see her being able to remember both timelines. And it as great to finally see the reunion we have been waiting for. What a shock that Sun can automatically speak English when she sees Jin. Jin has always and will always be her constant.

I don't usually gloat but i must say that i pretty much called the hospital scene this week. I am sure most knew that was coming but i can't help give me self a pat on the back. Once again, whatever or whoever is running this game is setting all the pieces in motion to get everybody back together. Jack, Sun, Jin, and Locke all at the hospital and Sawyer, Kate, Sayid all at the police station. How strange. The wildcard once again is Hurley but he as already seen the light and will appear when necessary. Some final thoughts

Any thoughts on why Widmore put the kibash on his deal with Sawyer?

No way Sayid killed Desmond right?

My favorite scene once again goes to MIB with that smile on his face announcing: "It is so good to have everybody back together again". Great acting

Sorry for the longs posts but i don't want to leave anything out. Questions/comment/thoughts/theories?
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