Quote Originally Posted by Danny9999: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: @Danny9999 Replying to your post #113, too big to quote... Agree 100%. I use an Indian casino. they use a Euro oddsmaker. Most of their business is soccer, so I don't think they pay attention to American sports as much. The lines are very slow to move. I think they don't move at all until money is bet on them. LY, the Suns were in first place by a couple games, and the Clippers, Lakers and GSW all had inuries, and they were still +1000 for the Pacific. The line didn't move when Lebron got his injury. I grabbed RSW over on the Bills LY around week 10and they went over by 3 games. I got Raptors No Playoffs +200 after they lost a ton of games in a row when they couldn't play in Canada - thought they were going to trade Lowry but liked it either way. I use PlayoffStatus.com. You need to wait for enough of the season to play out. LY they said the Bears had a 50% chance to make playoffs. The book offerred +500. I looked it over and liked their chances. I plan on researching futures the next week or so, NBA and NFL, I will post here if anything stands out to get a second opinion. How about those Cavs ? They were +250 ML tonight and they are up 22 points at the end of the third quarter. They were on a 5 game losing streak having lost to Nets twice, GS twice and Phoenix. That's a brutal 5 game stretch. They went 0-5 against the 3 best teams but they hung tight in all 5 games and tonight they are smashing the first place Mavs. This is a pretty decent Cavs squad this year. They will be 11-10 if they hold on tonight and they just got 5 brutal games out of the way. This team will win over 31.5 with ease. That is what it was when I mentioned it in the earlier post but it might be adjusted to 32.5 after tonight. They will win 40 easily IMO Agree with over 40. jcavs are like the knicks from last year. They play hard and have a great chance to make the playoffs I got yes 6-1.
And tonight they smash the Heat. This is a pretty good Cavs team. I got them at +900 to make playoffs then again at +1200. They will at least make the play in tournament. Interesting that it's Cleveland again.
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Quote Originally Posted by lordbettington:
Quote Originally Posted by Danny9999: Quote Originally Posted by thorpe: @Danny9999 Replying to your post #113, too big to quote... Agree 100%. I use an Indian casino. they use a Euro oddsmaker. Most of their business is soccer, so I don't think they pay attention to American sports as much. The lines are very slow to move. I think they don't move at all until money is bet on them. LY, the Suns were in first place by a couple games, and the Clippers, Lakers and GSW all had inuries, and they were still +1000 for the Pacific. The line didn't move when Lebron got his injury. I grabbed RSW over on the Bills LY around week 10and they went over by 3 games. I got Raptors No Playoffs +200 after they lost a ton of games in a row when they couldn't play in Canada - thought they were going to trade Lowry but liked it either way. I use PlayoffStatus.com. You need to wait for enough of the season to play out. LY they said the Bears had a 50% chance to make playoffs. The book offerred +500. I looked it over and liked their chances. I plan on researching futures the next week or so, NBA and NFL, I will post here if anything stands out to get a second opinion. How about those Cavs ? They were +250 ML tonight and they are up 22 points at the end of the third quarter. They were on a 5 game losing streak having lost to Nets twice, GS twice and Phoenix. That's a brutal 5 game stretch. They went 0-5 against the 3 best teams but they hung tight in all 5 games and tonight they are smashing the first place Mavs. This is a pretty decent Cavs squad this year. They will be 11-10 if they hold on tonight and they just got 5 brutal games out of the way. This team will win over 31.5 with ease. That is what it was when I mentioned it in the earlier post but it might be adjusted to 32.5 after tonight. They will win 40 easily IMO Agree with over 40. jcavs are like the knicks from last year. They play hard and have a great chance to make the playoffs I got yes 6-1.
And tonight they smash the Heat. This is a pretty good Cavs team. I got them at +900 to make playoffs then again at +1200. They will at least make the play in tournament. Interesting that it's Cleveland again.
Quote Originally Posted by Danny9999: Quote Originally Posted by LANDSHARK1: @Danny9999 Well, you're right. As dir what it's worth Danny, I love Vegas. Before Covid-19 I used to go for the better part of a month at a time once or twice a year. I guess for me (living up in Toronto, Canada), it wasn't all that convenient to hop skip & jump down there every time I got a notion in my head. But you got one in yours. Good luck with that play. Well I guess we are just going to have to disagree but I will point out that I "made my intentions clear" the very next day..less than 24 hours later. Certainly not "several days later". As well, I posted every book that I knew of that still had the bet up. I told the forum it was still up at bet365, draftkings, and FanDuel. A few posters here have said they tailed the play, so your "it was no use to anyone" comment is again way off base. The play was also made at 3-3 and 11 games left, not 5-5 and 7 left. It's a big difference, as they needed to won 72% of their remaining games. They now need to win 84%. I also posted last week that the Browns number was 9.5 and still a great bet to the under. After they got killed last week and more injuries, their number is now as low as 7.5 in some places. And the idea of betting against Cleveland for the remainder of the season is beyond silly. It's not the same bet at all. Cleveland could win 80% of their remaining games and still go under the 10.5. I did not want to reveal the play right away because pretty much the entire board claims they make massive bets without a second thought...it's BS I know...but still I didn't want someone to log into their mgm account, make a decent sized bet and get the bet removed. I don't know if you watched the video, in fact I'm sure you didn't, but when I made the bet, they removed the bet right then and there. In other states you can bet the mgm lines through the app. In Washington state, you cannot. In fact, making any bet while in Washington state is illegal. Another reason why maybe going to Vegas wasn't such a bad idea. I know I know, the FBI isn't gonna arrest me so who cares that it's illegal. Yeah I Do. I would love to see people posting their big plays, videos, threads, whatever. People taking the risk, knowing good and well they are gonna get shit on if they happen to be wrong. It's much more interesting then the same old every day nonsense people posting "massive bet", "GOY", "Max Bet", "Xtra Xtra Large" every damn day. The entire 1st 3 pages of the NFL forum right now is thread about everyone's "incredibly massive bets" more like guesses on the NE ATL game. And of course, their 2nd half guesses for massive money again. And of course the guy who is funding Christmas with his $65,000 bet. Then he loses badly, his team scored 0 points, then after the game admits he didn't actually bet any money. Real interesting. you are one of a handful on here who backed their words with proof. Everyone else like the vanzacks just spew utter bullshit and brag and always fall into their own pile of shit in the end. I couldn’t find your video on YouTube, was it deleted? Anyhow, good bet.
Thanks man. Yeah I have taken it down because I showed the full $5000 ticket twice in the video. I need to edit those out and I will reupload it. Might shorten it a little too. It's 14 minutes.
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Quote Originally Posted by Old_Tymer:
Quote Originally Posted by Danny9999: Quote Originally Posted by LANDSHARK1: @Danny9999 Well, you're right. As dir what it's worth Danny, I love Vegas. Before Covid-19 I used to go for the better part of a month at a time once or twice a year. I guess for me (living up in Toronto, Canada), it wasn't all that convenient to hop skip & jump down there every time I got a notion in my head. But you got one in yours. Good luck with that play. Well I guess we are just going to have to disagree but I will point out that I "made my intentions clear" the very next day..less than 24 hours later. Certainly not "several days later". As well, I posted every book that I knew of that still had the bet up. I told the forum it was still up at bet365, draftkings, and FanDuel. A few posters here have said they tailed the play, so your "it was no use to anyone" comment is again way off base. The play was also made at 3-3 and 11 games left, not 5-5 and 7 left. It's a big difference, as they needed to won 72% of their remaining games. They now need to win 84%. I also posted last week that the Browns number was 9.5 and still a great bet to the under. After they got killed last week and more injuries, their number is now as low as 7.5 in some places. And the idea of betting against Cleveland for the remainder of the season is beyond silly. It's not the same bet at all. Cleveland could win 80% of their remaining games and still go under the 10.5. I did not want to reveal the play right away because pretty much the entire board claims they make massive bets without a second thought...it's BS I know...but still I didn't want someone to log into their mgm account, make a decent sized bet and get the bet removed. I don't know if you watched the video, in fact I'm sure you didn't, but when I made the bet, they removed the bet right then and there. In other states you can bet the mgm lines through the app. In Washington state, you cannot. In fact, making any bet while in Washington state is illegal. Another reason why maybe going to Vegas wasn't such a bad idea. I know I know, the FBI isn't gonna arrest me so who cares that it's illegal. Yeah I Do. I would love to see people posting their big plays, videos, threads, whatever. People taking the risk, knowing good and well they are gonna get shit on if they happen to be wrong. It's much more interesting then the same old every day nonsense people posting "massive bet", "GOY", "Max Bet", "Xtra Xtra Large" every damn day. The entire 1st 3 pages of the NFL forum right now is thread about everyone's "incredibly massive bets" more like guesses on the NE ATL game. And of course, their 2nd half guesses for massive money again. And of course the guy who is funding Christmas with his $65,000 bet. Then he loses badly, his team scored 0 points, then after the game admits he didn't actually bet any money. Real interesting. you are one of a handful on here who backed their words with proof. Everyone else like the vanzacks just spew utter bullshit and brag and always fall into their own pile of shit in the end. I couldn’t find your video on YouTube, was it deleted? Anyhow, good bet.
Thanks man. Yeah I have taken it down because I showed the full $5000 ticket twice in the video. I need to edit those out and I will reupload it. Might shorten it a little too. It's 14 minutes.
This is a lot of great info here about future betting. I am someone who doesn't make big bets but loves sports betting for entertainment purposes and I have been lurking on these forums for a while. It's great to see some legitimately useful information and conversation. I definitely agree that there is much more value to be had with future bets than on betting on games. I was fortunate enough to get in on the Shohei MVP train early. The writing was on the wall that he was a virtual lock early in the season as long as he stayed healthy but my sportsbook, much like in the example of the Browns, was very slow to adjust his in season odds from where he was preseason. Anyway, thanks for the great content!
Thanks man. I would suggest the Cavs over. The number should be around 33.5 now. They are 12-10 and they are gonna be close to a .500 team possibly a little better than 41-41.
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Quote Originally Posted by BBGunzz:
This is a lot of great info here about future betting. I am someone who doesn't make big bets but loves sports betting for entertainment purposes and I have been lurking on these forums for a while. It's great to see some legitimately useful information and conversation. I definitely agree that there is much more value to be had with future bets than on betting on games. I was fortunate enough to get in on the Shohei MVP train early. The writing was on the wall that he was a virtual lock early in the season as long as he stayed healthy but my sportsbook, much like in the example of the Browns, was very slow to adjust his in season odds from where he was preseason. Anyway, thanks for the great content!
Thanks man. I would suggest the Cavs over. The number should be around 33.5 now. They are 12-10 and they are gonna be close to a .500 team possibly a little better than 41-41.
@Danny9999 to be honest , I prefer to see Mayfield over Keenum. Either way, Browns are toast for the year IMHO..
Yeah I would probably prefer injured Mayfield too. Either way they aren't winning out. They will definitely lose at Green Bay on Christmas Day but hopefully Baltimore will clinch this for us on the 12th.
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Quote Originally Posted by le2a:
@Danny9999 to be honest , I prefer to see Mayfield over Keenum. Either way, Browns are toast for the year IMHO..
Yeah I would probably prefer injured Mayfield too. Either way they aren't winning out. They will definitely lose at Green Bay on Christmas Day but hopefully Baltimore will clinch this for us on the 12th.
he mentioned that before that he does not trust with the local on 10k future bets. I wouldn't either. plane fare from Seattle to Vegas is only $350 or so plus the fun times that you can have in sin city.
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he mentioned that before that he does not trust with the local on 10k future bets. I wouldn't either. plane fare from Seattle to Vegas is only $350 or so plus the fun times that you can have in sin city.
I hope Baltimore's win will come soon as my buddy & I are celebrating @ fancy Peking duck place in Vancouver as soon as the browns loses. Danny if you ever in Van, hit me up for a drink or two, all on me.
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@Danny9999
I hope Baltimore's win will come soon as my buddy & I are celebrating @ fancy Peking duck place in Vancouver as soon as the browns loses. Danny if you ever in Van, hit me up for a drink or two, all on me.
@Danny9999 I hope Baltimore's win will come soon as my buddy & I are celebrating @ fancy Peking duck place in Vancouver as soon as the browns loses. Danny if you ever in Van, hit me up for a drink or two, all on me.
Yeah man. We got 5 chances to win. That's a lot better than just betting a game haha. We have 5 games and only need to win 1 of them. Hopefully we will get it next game and I think we will.
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Quote Originally Posted by le2a:
@Danny9999 I hope Baltimore's win will come soon as my buddy & I are celebrating @ fancy Peking duck place in Vancouver as soon as the browns loses. Danny if you ever in Van, hit me up for a drink or two, all on me.
Yeah man. We got 5 chances to win. That's a lot better than just betting a game haha. We have 5 games and only need to win 1 of them. Hopefully we will get it next game and I think we will.
@Danny9999 Locals don't like to take action on $10k future bets usually. I did try mine here & he declined. Too much liabiliabities.
Yeah not to mention I haven't gone through a local in over 15 years. So I would have needed to find someone out of the blue then get him to take a $10 k bet from me (someone he has no previous dealings with and has never seen before ) and get him to take a $10,000 bet that was clearly a pretty likely winner. Vegas only gave me half what I wanted and immediately took it down.
I just laugh at some of the absurd comments. Like the "why don't you just bet against them every game" nonsense. I don't know if these people are just trying to bust my balls or if they are just fking stupid. It's not hard to see why most people lose so much. Here is a massive +EV play, a play that is clearly going to win and they break their backs to find a problem with it. Takes all kinds I guess.
Also, the Cavaliers won straight up as a pretty decent moneyline dog again tonight. Three games this week, all big dogs, all 3 games straight up wins. This is a pretty darn good Cavaliers team that is being treated by the odds makers as a trash team.
I saw them as high as +2000 to make playoffs. They are making the play in tourney minimum for sure for sure. Can hedge out from there if need be. I could even see them finishing 5th or 6th and going straight in.
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Quote Originally Posted by le2a:
@Danny9999 Locals don't like to take action on $10k future bets usually. I did try mine here & he declined. Too much liabiliabities.
Yeah not to mention I haven't gone through a local in over 15 years. So I would have needed to find someone out of the blue then get him to take a $10 k bet from me (someone he has no previous dealings with and has never seen before ) and get him to take a $10,000 bet that was clearly a pretty likely winner. Vegas only gave me half what I wanted and immediately took it down.
I just laugh at some of the absurd comments. Like the "why don't you just bet against them every game" nonsense. I don't know if these people are just trying to bust my balls or if they are just fking stupid. It's not hard to see why most people lose so much. Here is a massive +EV play, a play that is clearly going to win and they break their backs to find a problem with it. Takes all kinds I guess.
Also, the Cavaliers won straight up as a pretty decent moneyline dog again tonight. Three games this week, all big dogs, all 3 games straight up wins. This is a pretty darn good Cavaliers team that is being treated by the odds makers as a trash team.
I saw them as high as +2000 to make playoffs. They are making the play in tourney minimum for sure for sure. Can hedge out from there if need be. I could even see them finishing 5th or 6th and going straight in.
The Wizards Line for total seasons wins was 33.5 -120 when the season started. I played the over figuring the Laker castoffs would plat as if they had something to prove.
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The Wizards Line for total seasons wins was 33.5 -120 when the season started. I played the over figuring the Laker castoffs would plat as if they had something to prove.
I'm not trying to down the Wizards because I haven't really studied them much, but I remember last time I saw playoff odds the Wizards were +150 or +200. Something like that. The Cavs were +1200.
The Cavs went into the Wizards house tonight and had a 30 point lead in the third quarter before trash time and the Wizards got it down to 15. The Wizards were favored in the game but trailed by 30 points.
The Cavs also just kicked the crap out of the Mavericks and the Heat. Both those teams favored to win their divisions.
Bovada right now has Wizards 60 to 1 to win East and Cavs 300 to 1 to win East. It's mute because neither will win East but between the 2 the Cavs are far more undervalued. The Wizards may also be undervalued but these Cavs are being treated like a trash team. Which is great, it's an opportunity. They are 13-10, they just had a 5 game losing streak against GS twice, Nets twice, and Sun's. But they played all 5 games tight. And that's probably the 3 best teams in NBA
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I'm not trying to down the Wizards because I haven't really studied them much, but I remember last time I saw playoff odds the Wizards were +150 or +200. Something like that. The Cavs were +1200.
The Cavs went into the Wizards house tonight and had a 30 point lead in the third quarter before trash time and the Wizards got it down to 15. The Wizards were favored in the game but trailed by 30 points.
The Cavs also just kicked the crap out of the Mavericks and the Heat. Both those teams favored to win their divisions.
Bovada right now has Wizards 60 to 1 to win East and Cavs 300 to 1 to win East. It's mute because neither will win East but between the 2 the Cavs are far more undervalued. The Wizards may also be undervalued but these Cavs are being treated like a trash team. Which is great, it's an opportunity. They are 13-10, they just had a 5 game losing streak against GS twice, Nets twice, and Sun's. But they played all 5 games tight. And that's probably the 3 best teams in NBA
Why are you so so excited to throw away 10k, you don't even seem to have a plan. Don't put the whole 10 down at one, unless you want to fill out the appropriate paperwork either.
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@Danny9999
Why are you so so excited to throw away 10k, you don't even seem to have a plan. Don't put the whole 10 down at one, unless you want to fill out the appropriate paperwork either.
@Danny9999 Why are you so so excited to throw away 10k, you don't even seem to have a plan. Don't put the whole 10 down at one, unless you want to fill out the appropriate paperwork either.
Lol. The play just won with 3 games to spare.
Here was my plan. Go to Vegas, bet the money, win the bet. Return to Vegas with free hotel because I bet so much.
Check check check check check
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Quote Originally Posted by Alomar:
@Danny9999 Why are you so so excited to throw away 10k, you don't even seem to have a plan. Don't put the whole 10 down at one, unless you want to fill out the appropriate paperwork either.
Lol. The play just won with 3 games to spare.
Here was my plan. Go to Vegas, bet the money, win the bet. Return to Vegas with free hotel because I bet so much.
@Danny9999 WTG! I didn't get in, but I was pulling for you. Time to plan a trip to go cash that ticket!
Thank you.
Yep Jan 12-15. Free nights at Bellagio. I still have to pay resort fee but it's a $300 a night suite comped. Also $200 meal credit and $25 a day free play.
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Quote Originally Posted by bluecompass:
@Danny9999 WTG! I didn't get in, but I was pulling for you. Time to plan a trip to go cash that ticket!
Thank you.
Yep Jan 12-15. Free nights at Bellagio. I still have to pay resort fee but it's a $300 a night suite comped. Also $200 meal credit and $25 a day free play.
Congrats Danny!! Do you think Browns make playoffs? I will be getting 5k if they do not (+200). All because of you!!
No I think they miss playoffs. They lose to GB Saturday they are 7-8 and probably lose 1 of last 2 to Pitt or Bengals. 8-9 won't do it, 9-8 probably won't either.
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Quote Originally Posted by jjj888:
Congrats Danny!! Do you think Browns make playoffs? I will be getting 5k if they do not (+200). All because of you!!
No I think they miss playoffs. They lose to GB Saturday they are 7-8 and probably lose 1 of last 2 to Pitt or Bengals. 8-9 won't do it, 9-8 probably won't either.
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