Hard to tell what you will get from the Bears this week with a new O Coordinator, and all of the pressure Williams is under. Sure feels like the team has given up a little bit - they have that look.
In watching the film... My personal impressions are that he is missing throws and not reading defenses - even regression from earlier in the season. Every other rookie has progressed and he is regressing - it happens when QBs lose confidence in their O Line to protect and they shorten their 1st read pocket time from 2.5 seconds to about 1.5 seconds - which causes all kinds of issues. Maybe not for a 10 year vet - but for any rookie when you get happy feet and get off your primary read too soon - defenses are going to eat you up.
So can the Bears run on the Pack? Because that would be the only thing I could point to that would tell me that Chicago could hang here.... I have them at 23rd rushing (adjusted) and the Pack 13th (adjusted) against the run. So that doesn't look great on paper. Eberflus is also not a gameplanner - I use a metric of variation in coaching plans (it simply measures how consistent a team is running the same gameplan or how much coaching changes things up week to week - based on things like run / pass / coverage / defense) and the Bears are one of the most consistent in the league - which in my book is a bad sign.
On the other side, you have the Pack with the 3rd best rushing attack in the NFL, and particularly good outside of the tackles - going against the Bears 30th ranked defense (31st outside the tackles). So the Pack should be able to run on the Bears. I expect Love to only have to throw like 20 times a game - but LaFleur is 2nd in the NFL in that coaching variation metric so he sometimes likes to get outside of what is expected or looks easy on paper.
Overall, I like the Pack to win. But in normal years, 5.5 points is a ton of points. But this year? Who knows. Points dont seem to matter. Did anyone see the DKs and FDs earnings advisement this past week? They said something to the effect of "fan favorable outcomes have impacted millions of profitability" and that the street should adjust earnings expectations down accordingly.
So I think if I wasn't tracking so poorly this season I would have a low unit play on the Pack, but it is one that gets eliminated because my threshold is higher because of my current slump.
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Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo:
Thoughts on Packers at all?
My model is Pack -6.
Hard to tell what you will get from the Bears this week with a new O Coordinator, and all of the pressure Williams is under. Sure feels like the team has given up a little bit - they have that look.
In watching the film... My personal impressions are that he is missing throws and not reading defenses - even regression from earlier in the season. Every other rookie has progressed and he is regressing - it happens when QBs lose confidence in their O Line to protect and they shorten their 1st read pocket time from 2.5 seconds to about 1.5 seconds - which causes all kinds of issues. Maybe not for a 10 year vet - but for any rookie when you get happy feet and get off your primary read too soon - defenses are going to eat you up.
So can the Bears run on the Pack? Because that would be the only thing I could point to that would tell me that Chicago could hang here.... I have them at 23rd rushing (adjusted) and the Pack 13th (adjusted) against the run. So that doesn't look great on paper. Eberflus is also not a gameplanner - I use a metric of variation in coaching plans (it simply measures how consistent a team is running the same gameplan or how much coaching changes things up week to week - based on things like run / pass / coverage / defense) and the Bears are one of the most consistent in the league - which in my book is a bad sign.
On the other side, you have the Pack with the 3rd best rushing attack in the NFL, and particularly good outside of the tackles - going against the Bears 30th ranked defense (31st outside the tackles). So the Pack should be able to run on the Bears. I expect Love to only have to throw like 20 times a game - but LaFleur is 2nd in the NFL in that coaching variation metric so he sometimes likes to get outside of what is expected or looks easy on paper.
Overall, I like the Pack to win. But in normal years, 5.5 points is a ton of points. But this year? Who knows. Points dont seem to matter. Did anyone see the DKs and FDs earnings advisement this past week? They said something to the effect of "fan favorable outcomes have impacted millions of profitability" and that the street should adjust earnings expectations down accordingly.
So I think if I wasn't tracking so poorly this season I would have a low unit play on the Pack, but it is one that gets eliminated because my threshold is higher because of my current slump.
Three games seem obvious to me. Fading Chi, NYJ and Dall. Last week in particular Phil over D seemed that was, but I still hesitated, and we know how that came out.
The obvious games scare me tho.
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Three games seem obvious to me. Fading Chi, NYJ and Dall. Last week in particular Phil over D seemed that was, but I still hesitated, and we know how that came out.
Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Season Record -23.5 units Sunday * Colts +4 (2.5 uts) * Browns PK (2.5 uts) * Broncos -2 (2 uts) * Bengals +1 (2 uts) I am obviously on an extended losing streak. Just consider me a free voice on the internet. You submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best. GL all Nice to hear you admit it. That is a step in the right direction. Doesn't even sound like the same guy we are all use to. I miss that confidence coming from this guy last year, dude got crazy with me over a kicker missing a field goal I saw in his thread last week he tweaked his system, never good to not trust the system, hopefully he rebounds, but I am not understanding the love he have to pick the weirdest games on the board each week. Anyways hard to believe the things he says now after he admitted he said one things and did another, without giving any warnings to the forum. @C-70Blues You post picks or share your thoughts on games? Or is this how you find pass time? Being a regulator?
Another caveman. Its like you speak a different language than me. Your comments do not even apply. You have no clue.
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Quote Originally Posted by Taipei-Tony:
Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Season Record -23.5 units Sunday * Colts +4 (2.5 uts) * Browns PK (2.5 uts) * Broncos -2 (2 uts) * Bengals +1 (2 uts) I am obviously on an extended losing streak. Just consider me a free voice on the internet. You submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best. GL all Nice to hear you admit it. That is a step in the right direction. Doesn't even sound like the same guy we are all use to. I miss that confidence coming from this guy last year, dude got crazy with me over a kicker missing a field goal I saw in his thread last week he tweaked his system, never good to not trust the system, hopefully he rebounds, but I am not understanding the love he have to pick the weirdest games on the board each week. Anyways hard to believe the things he says now after he admitted he said one things and did another, without giving any warnings to the forum. @C-70Blues You post picks or share your thoughts on games? Or is this how you find pass time? Being a regulator?
Another caveman. Its like you speak a different language than me. Your comments do not even apply. You have no clue.
Quote Originally Posted by Taipei-Tony: Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Season Record -23.5 units Sunday * Colts +4 (2.5 uts) * Browns PK (2.5 uts) * Broncos -2 (2 uts) * Bengals +1 (2 uts) I am obviously on an extended losing streak. Just consider me a free voice on the internet. You submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best. GL all Nice to hear you admit it. That is a step in the right direction. Doesn't even sound like the same guy we are all use to. I miss that confidence coming from this guy last year, dude got crazy with me over a kicker missing a field goal I saw in his thread last week he tweaked his system, never good to not trust the system, hopefully he rebounds, but I am not understanding the love he have to pick the weirdest games on the board each week. Anyways hard to believe the things he says now after he admitted he said one things and did another, without giving any warnings to the forum. @C-70Blues You post picks or share your thoughts on games? Or is this how you find pass time? Being a regulator? Could you explain to me how you can criticize this mans choice of games when you are packing a 9 -22 record. What a world we live in.
Feel free to check my record in the NBA last year and MLB this year, then ask yourself what world we live in.
Taipei-Tony
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Quote Originally Posted by Biscuiteater1:
Quote Originally Posted by Taipei-Tony: Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Season Record -23.5 units Sunday * Colts +4 (2.5 uts) * Browns PK (2.5 uts) * Broncos -2 (2 uts) * Bengals +1 (2 uts) I am obviously on an extended losing streak. Just consider me a free voice on the internet. You submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best. GL all Nice to hear you admit it. That is a step in the right direction. Doesn't even sound like the same guy we are all use to. I miss that confidence coming from this guy last year, dude got crazy with me over a kicker missing a field goal I saw in his thread last week he tweaked his system, never good to not trust the system, hopefully he rebounds, but I am not understanding the love he have to pick the weirdest games on the board each week. Anyways hard to believe the things he says now after he admitted he said one things and did another, without giving any warnings to the forum. @C-70Blues You post picks or share your thoughts on games? Or is this how you find pass time? Being a regulator? Could you explain to me how you can criticize this mans choice of games when you are packing a 9 -22 record. What a world we live in.
Feel free to check my record in the NBA last year and MLB this year, then ask yourself what world we live in.
Quote Originally Posted by Taipei-Tony: Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Season Record -23.5 units Sunday * Colts +4 (2.5 uts) * Browns PK (2.5 uts) * Broncos -2 (2 uts) * Bengals +1 (2 uts) I am obviously on an extended losing streak. Just consider me a free voice on the internet. You submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best. GL all Nice to hear you admit it. That is a step in the right direction. Doesn't even sound like the same guy we are all use to. I miss that confidence coming from this guy last year, dude got crazy with me over a kicker missing a field goal I saw in his thread last week he tweaked his system, never good to not trust the system, hopefully he rebounds, but I am not understanding the love he have to pick the weirdest games on the board each week. Anyways hard to believe the things he says now after he admitted he said one things and did another, without giving any warnings to the forum. @C-70Blues You post picks or share your thoughts on games? Or is this how you find pass time? Being a regulator? Another caveman. Its like you speak a different language than me. Your comments do not even apply. You have no clue.
Only person that have no clue is you, I am not going to get into too much. Your handicapping skill is not what you think they are, I too was curious about you, in HIGHSCHOOL you use to be the man homie! WTF happen to you
but
on a serious note....
In your thread last week, the end of it. WOW Maybe not everyone sees it but you admitted more than enough!
Stay HUMBLE! Learn that and you might not be experiencing the so call BAD LUCK you are experiencing right now.
Taipei-Tony
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Quote Originally Posted by Taipei-Tony: Quote Originally Posted by C-70Blues: Quote Originally Posted by vanzack: NFL Season Record -23.5 units Sunday * Colts +4 (2.5 uts) * Browns PK (2.5 uts) * Broncos -2 (2 uts) * Bengals +1 (2 uts) I am obviously on an extended losing streak. Just consider me a free voice on the internet. You submit a bet - your choice. I keep doing my best. GL all Nice to hear you admit it. That is a step in the right direction. Doesn't even sound like the same guy we are all use to. I miss that confidence coming from this guy last year, dude got crazy with me over a kicker missing a field goal I saw in his thread last week he tweaked his system, never good to not trust the system, hopefully he rebounds, but I am not understanding the love he have to pick the weirdest games on the board each week. Anyways hard to believe the things he says now after he admitted he said one things and did another, without giving any warnings to the forum. @C-70Blues You post picks or share your thoughts on games? Or is this how you find pass time? Being a regulator? Another caveman. Its like you speak a different language than me. Your comments do not even apply. You have no clue.
Only person that have no clue is you, I am not going to get into too much. Your handicapping skill is not what you think they are, I too was curious about you, in HIGHSCHOOL you use to be the man homie! WTF happen to you
but
on a serious note....
In your thread last week, the end of it. WOW Maybe not everyone sees it but you admitted more than enough!
Stay HUMBLE! Learn that and you might not be experiencing the so call BAD LUCK you are experiencing right now.
@Taipei-Tony It's not a record, or how well you can pick games. Its the weird thoughts you write, along with the stuff in sports betting that doesn't apply or means nothing to me.
Good Luck dude! Weird thought I write? OK! How about the things you type to support your bets that you do not follow? You have your ways of doing things, Good Luck! Not worth my time debating with someone that chooses not to talk football.
Taipei-Tony
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
@Taipei-Tony It's not a record, or how well you can pick games. Its the weird thoughts you write, along with the stuff in sports betting that doesn't apply or means nothing to me.
Good Luck dude! Weird thought I write? OK! How about the things you type to support your bets that you do not follow? You have your ways of doing things, Good Luck! Not worth my time debating with someone that chooses not to talk football.
Van good luck and hopefully it turns around for you this week! I like the plays a lot but don't have a good read on Broncos Falcons game. Broncos I feel may have a letdown after crushing loss by KC. Denver more healthy than Atlanta. Smells like a Bijan game if Atlanta wins.
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Van good luck and hopefully it turns around for you this week! I like the plays a lot but don't have a good read on Broncos Falcons game. Broncos I feel may have a letdown after crushing loss by KC. Denver more healthy than Atlanta. Smells like a Bijan game if Atlanta wins.
Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo: Thoughts on Packers at all? My model is Pack -6. Hard to tell what you will get from the Bears this week with a new O Coordinator, and all of the pressure Williams is under. Sure feels like the team has given up a little bit - they have that look. In watching the film... My personal impressions are that he is missing throws and not reading defenses - even regression from earlier in the season. Every other rookie has progressed and he is regressing - it happens when QBs lose confidence in their O Line to protect and they shorten their 1st read pocket time from 2.5 seconds to about 1.5 seconds - which causes all kinds of issues. Maybe not for a 10 year vet - but for any rookie when you get happy feet and get off your primary read too soon - defenses are going to eat you up. So can the Bears run on the Pack? Because that would be the only thing I could point to that would tell me that Chicago could hang here.... I have them at 23rd rushing (adjusted) and the Pack 13th (adjusted) against the run. So that doesn't look great on paper. Eberflus is also not a gameplanner - I use a metric of variation in coaching plans (it simply measures how consistent a team is running the same gameplan or how much coaching changes things up week to week - based on things like run / pass / coverage / defense) and the Bears are one of the most consistent in the league - which in my book is a bad sign. On the other side, you have the Pack with the 3rd best rushing attack in the NFL, and particularly good outside of the tackles - going against the Bears 30th ranked defense (31st outside the tackles). So the Pack should be able to run on the Bears. I expect Love to only have to throw like 20 times a game - but LaFleur is 2nd in the NFL in that coaching variation metric so he sometimes likes to get outside of what is expected or looks easy on paper. Overall, I like the Pack to win. But in normal years, 5.5 points is a ton of points. But this year? Who knows. Points dont seem to matter. Did anyone see the DKs and FDs earnings advisement this past week? They said something to the effect of "fan favorable outcomes have impacted millions of profitability" and that the street should adjust earnings expectations down accordingly. So I think if I wasn't tracking so poorly this season I would have a low unit play on the Pack, but it is one that gets eliminated because my threshold is higher because of my current slump.
@vanzack
Thanks for the input. Like them to bounce back with a week off and I don’t trust the Bears offense vs the Packers defense.
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Quote Originally Posted by vanzack:
Quote Originally Posted by MrFreedo: Thoughts on Packers at all? My model is Pack -6. Hard to tell what you will get from the Bears this week with a new O Coordinator, and all of the pressure Williams is under. Sure feels like the team has given up a little bit - they have that look. In watching the film... My personal impressions are that he is missing throws and not reading defenses - even regression from earlier in the season. Every other rookie has progressed and he is regressing - it happens when QBs lose confidence in their O Line to protect and they shorten their 1st read pocket time from 2.5 seconds to about 1.5 seconds - which causes all kinds of issues. Maybe not for a 10 year vet - but for any rookie when you get happy feet and get off your primary read too soon - defenses are going to eat you up. So can the Bears run on the Pack? Because that would be the only thing I could point to that would tell me that Chicago could hang here.... I have them at 23rd rushing (adjusted) and the Pack 13th (adjusted) against the run. So that doesn't look great on paper. Eberflus is also not a gameplanner - I use a metric of variation in coaching plans (it simply measures how consistent a team is running the same gameplan or how much coaching changes things up week to week - based on things like run / pass / coverage / defense) and the Bears are one of the most consistent in the league - which in my book is a bad sign. On the other side, you have the Pack with the 3rd best rushing attack in the NFL, and particularly good outside of the tackles - going against the Bears 30th ranked defense (31st outside the tackles). So the Pack should be able to run on the Bears. I expect Love to only have to throw like 20 times a game - but LaFleur is 2nd in the NFL in that coaching variation metric so he sometimes likes to get outside of what is expected or looks easy on paper. Overall, I like the Pack to win. But in normal years, 5.5 points is a ton of points. But this year? Who knows. Points dont seem to matter. Did anyone see the DKs and FDs earnings advisement this past week? They said something to the effect of "fan favorable outcomes have impacted millions of profitability" and that the street should adjust earnings expectations down accordingly. So I think if I wasn't tracking so poorly this season I would have a low unit play on the Pack, but it is one that gets eliminated because my threshold is higher because of my current slump.
@vanzack
Thanks for the input. Like them to bounce back with a week off and I don’t trust the Bears offense vs the Packers defense.
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