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pigskinpicker

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 3:26 AM ET #151

the orlando sentinel is the most liberal left wing newspaper in florida and after endorsing O in 2008, they are now endorsing romney. i think romney wins this election rather handily as more people realize what a fraud obama is. a man who has never accomplished anything, as president or otherwise. most of the people who support obama are largely uninformed and have been brainwashed by the left wing media and take anything they hear on abc, cbs, or nbc to be gospel. msnbc, owned by nbc is so far left, they may as well rename themselves the official DNC network.

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 3:50 AM ET #152

Cambyspree- Do you actually spend anytime in Nevada? My friends are in their mid 20s, and I don't know if they voted for Obama last term, but they're voting for Romney this term. A lot of those college kids come out of UNLV and stay there and work there. Even the cab driver I talked to was bitching about Obama and how the economy is so bad. Several cab drivers I've had this year in the four times i went had degrees and were driving a damn cab! Nevada, Las Vegas in general Has the worst economy in the country.

The next thing is very, very important and you should really do some research, or have a bunch of friends who live there, Nevada has the SECOND LARGEST MORMAN POPULATION next to Utah! Did you know that?

So good luck with those bold predictions. (Handshake)

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 3:55 AM ET #153

And we are not a net exporter of oil. Close, we exported around 750 billion barrels and Imported 850 billion barrels last year.

But the jackasses said we imported 99.9% of our oil is a fucking idiot. Dude, some people are smart and actually know some facts and just a little bit if advice when spewing bullshit, from a professional bullshitter, try not to over exaggerate your numbers that they may resemble somewhat of a truth.

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 3:56 AM ET #154

I would hedge your bet. Good luck.

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jackoat

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 4:08 AM ET #155

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

So a rich guy that wanted to get richer AND keep his money is now considered a scumbag?

If that was me I would do the everything I could to get as much money as I could and so would everyone else. Stop lying to yourself.

What else is wrong with Romney? What could he possibly do wrong to make Obama look like the savior? Ruin the economy? Get us further into debt? Lie about getting our troops home? Lie about his origins? Use his race as the major reason he bacame president? Oh, wait.....Obama already did all of those things......

Thank you

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jackoat

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 4:20 AM ET #156

People get so damn extreme when it comes to politics. To say obama has not accomplished anything in his life is too absurd to fathom. He became the president of the united states! As a black man! No question he is a horrible president but it does not make him a bad man or an unnaccomplished man.

Yes Romney will be ten times the president obama could ever be but all he will do is buy us a little time before we hit economic armaggeddon. We are 16 trillion dollars in debt. Thanks obama. You had under 10 four years ago. We are on a sinking ship, we can slow it by patching holes but IMO it is too late to save us. China gets a new premier in a month and he is gonna want the trillion dollars we owe him and we cant pay it. China is a big bad black bookie.

On another note, i think its hilarious that people hate romney because he is rich. I would much rather have a guy who knows how to make money trying to fix my economy over a guy who was literally handed all of his money. Wake up

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jackoat

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 4:34 AM ET #157

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Let me explain to you why you're a danger to America and need to be defeated:

I own a biz. It is successful. It employs people. I pay personal income tax, onerous payroll taxes, i provide healthcare, i carry insurance that is required of me by the govt, i pay license fees locally and statewide to maintain my biz, etc. I fork over .45 of every dollar. To meet these increasing costs I have layed ppl off, scaled back hours, and eliminated advertising. This has kept the biz going but sales have suffered. Lost rev but also less taxes paid. My billboard rep called me the other day after he got laid off asking me if i had work for him, i told him i did not. My cable tv rep wanted to know if i had any plans for doing biz with him in 2013... I had to tell him no. 50% of my vendors are gone since this great experiment we've embarked upon with Neo-Marxism. A local restaurant that my wife and i used to frequent just went out the other day. The sandwich guy that used to deliver just stopped delivering because he can't afford it anymore. Guess why all of this is going down, genius... Not enough customers.

For a punk like you to come on here and call what is happening all over America "Fox News" propoganda is tragic. I used to live in the 323. I know exactly who the fuck you are and you're the reason i left. In fact, you and your ilk are the reason hundreds of businesses leave CA every week.

If/when O is re-elected and the tax code is rewritten to further punish the producers, i will be laying even more people off or poss just shutting the doors for good. Jobs, income tax rev, payroll tax rev, sales tax rev, all gone. I don't need it. Truthfully, i'd rather burn it than give it to someone like you. You and your sick generation can go fuck urself.

Very well said.

Unfortunately i am of this generation and it is incredible that my peers although seemingly intelligent in most walks of life can be so ass backwards when it comes to this subject. The notion of punishing success and rewarding failure is idiotic, even a liberal agrees with that but then when you press them on their views they regurgitate exactly that. Lets give stupid and lazy people more assistance because they are "unfortunate". where do we get this money? Lets just tax his boss, hes rich. Yes lets tax the man who gives you a job. lets put him out of business. That'll show him. Mind boggling and scary

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Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Let me explain to you why you're a danger to America and need to be defeated:

I own a biz. It is successful. It employs people. I pay personal income tax, onerous payroll taxes, i provide healthcare, i carry insurance that is required of me by the govt, i pay license fees locally and statewide to maintain my biz, etc. I fork over .45 of every dollar. To meet these increasing costs I have layed ppl off, scaled back hours, and eliminated advertising. This has kept the biz going but sales have suffered. Lost rev but also less taxes paid. My billboard rep called me the other day after he got laid off asking me if i had work for him, i told him i did not. My cable tv rep wanted to know if i had any plans for doing biz with him in 2013... I had to tell him no. 50% of my vendors are gone since this great experiment we've embarked upon with Neo-Marxism. A local restaurant that my wife and i used to frequent just went out the other day. The sandwich guy that used to deliver just stopped delivering because he can't afford it anymore. Guess why all of this is going down, genius... Not enough customers.

For a punk like you to come on here and call what is happening all over America "Fox News" propoganda is tragic. I used to live in the 323. I know exactly who the fuck you are and you're the reason i left. In fact, you and your ilk are the reason hundreds of businesses leave CA every week.

If/when O is re-elected and the tax code is rewritten to further punish the producers, i will be laying even more people off or poss just shutting the doors for good. Jobs, income tax rev, payroll tax rev, sales tax rev, all gone. I don't need it. Truthfully, i'd rather burn it than give it to someone like you. You and your sick generation can go fuck urself.

Very well said.

Unfortunately i am of this generation and it is incredible that my peers although seemingly intelligent in most walks of life can be so ass backwards when it comes to this subject. The notion of punishing success and rewarding failure is idiotic, even a liberal agrees with that but then when you press them on their views they regurgitate exactly that. Lets give stupid and lazy people more assistance because they are "unfortunate". where do we get this money? Lets just tax his boss, hes rich. Yes lets tax the man who gives you a job. lets put him out of business. That'll show him. Mind boggling and scary

elsonic

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 4:57 AM ET #158

Obama sucks......100 bucks on romney

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nuttyrich

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 5:06 AM ET #159

Quote Originally Posted by TedHJLee:

Thanks man.

But the weekend actually ended awesome for me I was feeling down cuz o the Pitt bet but in reality I was down 15k from other stupid bets. But ended up 35k up by the end of Sunday. I think I'm gonna let this bet ride. Go Obama!!!

Glad you are up 35k! Unless Obama tanks on Monday's Debate.. he's got this!.

Romney on Foreign affairs, he's in no mans land because he has ZERO experience with that.

Good luck,

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 5:07 AM ET #160

Lundgaard- Great points, I have cut our print and TV advertising down to just what we can recoup from coop. I'm a new car dealer, well my father is the dealer and I am the VP, but the auto industry isn't great. This year we lost 40k after turning a profit last year, be it a meager one. Don't believe all the lies about how many cars are selling, they report new car sales, they report sales to the dealer, and we has a lot if inventory hanging around. Got to keep those unions boys cranking out product. I sure hope America wakes up, or better yet, I hope they just sleep in on Election Day! It's what those that endorse this guy do best.

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NONEED4LUCK

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 5:08 AM ET #161

They dont* report new car deliveries to the end consumer.

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minorleagueguy

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 6:03 AM ET #162

I'm voting for Romney but I think Obama wins. NO idea how people can vote for this guy EXCEPT for the lower class!! Obama give the Lower class gets EVERYTHING for free, thus 47 millions people on food stamps up from 24 million.

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book21star

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 6:50 AM ET #163

University of Colorado has correctly pick the last 8 presidents with an economic model. Says Romney wins

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kansas24

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 7:17 AM ET #164

DONT LIKE EITHER ONE OF THE COCK SUCKERS

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book21star

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 8:01 AM ET #165

Quote Originally Posted by kansas24:

DONT LIKE EITHER ONE OF THE COCK SUCKERS

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ROVIN56

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Posts: 4525

Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:08 AM ET #166

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Let me explain to you why you're a danger to America and need to be defeated:

I own a biz. It is successful. It employs people. I pay personal income tax, onerous payroll taxes, i provide healthcare, i carry insurance that is required of me by the govt, i pay license fees locally and statewide to maintain my biz, etc. I fork over .45 of every dollar. To meet these increasing costs I have layed ppl off, scaled back hours, and eliminated advertising. This has kept the biz going but sales have suffered. Lost rev but also less taxes paid. My billboard rep called me the other day after he got laid off asking me if i had work for him, i told him i did not. My cable tv rep wanted to know if i had any plans for doing biz with him in 2013... I had to tell him no. 50% of my vendors are gone since this great experiment we've embarked upon with Neo-Marxism. A local restaurant that my wife and i used to frequent just went out the other day. The sandwich guy that used to deliver just stopped delivering because he can't afford it anymore. Guess why all of this is going down, genius... Not enough customers.

For a punk like you to come on here and call what is happening all over America "Fox News" propoganda is tragic. I used to live in the 323. I know exactly who the fuck you are and you're the reason i left. In fact, you and your ilk are the reason hundreds of businesses leave CA every week.

If/when O is re-elected and the tax code is rewritten to further punish the producers, i will be laying even more people off or poss just shutting the doors for good. Jobs, income tax rev, payroll tax rev, sales tax rev, all gone. I don't need it. Truthfully, i'd rather burn it than give it to someone like you. You and your sick generation can go fuck urself.

First off calling folks "a danger" because their political views don't jibe with your own drains your credibility right off. And to blame the neo-marxist Obama administration for your business expenses is ridiculous. I suppose you lost money during the neo-marxist Clinton years as well huh? Lets not forget all the people who lost their homes in the mortgage debacle (bank reform ring a bell?) and the stubborn lying Administration that got us into this damn mess in the first place running up huge deficits and sending unemployment through the roof while EXXON continued to reap in multi billion dollar profits. Romney has no plan, his running mate is a cynical joke and yesterday I got a cd in the mail by some wingnuts who claim Obama's father was a black panther or some such crap. Cant wait to vote and make money off the Republicans at the same time....

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Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Let me explain to you why you're a danger to America and need to be defeated:

I own a biz. It is successful. It employs people. I pay personal income tax, onerous payroll taxes, i provide healthcare, i carry insurance that is required of me by the govt, i pay license fees locally and statewide to maintain my biz, etc. I fork over .45 of every dollar. To meet these increasing costs I have layed ppl off, scaled back hours, and eliminated advertising. This has kept the biz going but sales have suffered. Lost rev but also less taxes paid. My billboard rep called me the other day after he got laid off asking me if i had work for him, i told him i did not. My cable tv rep wanted to know if i had any plans for doing biz with him in 2013... I had to tell him no. 50% of my vendors are gone since this great experiment we've embarked upon with Neo-Marxism. A local restaurant that my wife and i used to frequent just went out the other day. The sandwich guy that used to deliver just stopped delivering because he can't afford it anymore. Guess why all of this is going down, genius... Not enough customers.

For a punk like you to come on here and call what is happening all over America "Fox News" propoganda is tragic. I used to live in the 323. I know exactly who the fuck you are and you're the reason i left. In fact, you and your ilk are the reason hundreds of businesses leave CA every week.

If/when O is re-elected and the tax code is rewritten to further punish the producers, i will be laying even more people off or poss just shutting the doors for good. Jobs, income tax rev, payroll tax rev, sales tax rev, all gone. I don't need it. Truthfully, i'd rather burn it than give it to someone like you. You and your sick generation can go fuck urself.

First off calling folks "a danger" because their political views don't jibe with your own drains your credibility right off. And to blame the neo-marxist Obama administration for your business expenses is ridiculous. I suppose you lost money during the neo-marxist Clinton years as well huh? Lets not forget all the people who lost their homes in the mortgage debacle (bank reform ring a bell?) and the stubborn lying Administration that got us into this damn mess in the first place running up huge deficits and sending unemployment through the roof while EXXON continued to reap in multi billion dollar profits. Romney has no plan, his running mate is a cynical joke and yesterday I got a cd in the mail by some wingnuts who claim Obama's father was a black panther or some such crap. Cant wait to vote and make money off the Republicans at the same time....

Raidernator76

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:12 AM ET #167

i dont mean to sound ignorant, but what's the deal with medicare? what is the best plan and how long can obamacare go? isnt that extra tax to pay?

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SWaTX731

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:15 AM ET #168

Obama all day. Last debate Romney made an ass of himself. I'm undecided but when it comes to gambling, Obama stays President! Lol.

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Raidernator76

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:17 AM ET #169

i work in the hotel industry where i pretty much rely on tips. 4-5 years ago, i wouldnt mind because i was making bank. now, it hasnt been the same. i have a degree and just cant get into anything else. but, if u think about it, having a Masters is the now bachelors where anything less is obsolete

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zzsignup

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:38 AM ET #170

Quote Originally Posted by TRAIN69:

So a rich guy that wanted to get richer AND keep his money is now considered a scumbag?

No, the scumbag part is when he pays 14% effective tax via tax loopholes, keeps money offshore away from American investments to make more money for himself, while campaigning he believes in America. What bull.

Quote Originally Posted by Hawk_You:

He gives 33% of his income to charity EVERY YEAR. ITS PROVEN IN HIS TAX RETURNS THAT HE RELEASED.

How do you prove Rommey gave 33% of his income EVERY YEAR with only 2 years of tax returns? Romney has released only 2 years of returns, the lowest of any recent presidential candidates other than McCain in the last 3 decades, compared to 12 for Obama/Biden. Romney's own father released 12 years of returns.

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zzsignup

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:46 AM ET #171

Quote Originally Posted by billywaddy:

Romney=Bush ... no thanks

Romney=Bush 2.0, only with less foreign policy experience (as if that's possible) and more pro-corporate.

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mikebdb

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:47 AM ET #172

this will be a very close election....similiar to the gore bush 2000 election....they probably wont know who wins till the next day....also those who say romney will win in a landslide better think again..with the northeast and westcoast and illinois....just that alone assures of a close election with the electoral votes...

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zzsignup

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 9:51 AM ET #173

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

If/when O is re-elected and the tax code is rewritten to further punish the producers, i will be laying even more people off or poss just shutting the doors for good.

That's funny, when taxes were much higher than they are now in the 50s-80s, America GREW. So much for the higher taxes kill economy argument. As you probably know, biz are taxed on PROFITS, not revenues. For a biz to close simply because profit is down a few percent due to taxes is ludicrous.

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Jobs, income tax rev, payroll tax rev, sales tax rev, all gone. I don't need it. Truthfully, i'd rather burn it than give it to someone like you. You and your sick generation can go fuck urself.

Would be nice to live in a country where everything society needs are free, i.e. the military, courts, safe roads/streets, etc. Keep dreaming.

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mikebdb

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 10:02 AM ET #174

romney gets the popular vote obama gets the electoral votes.....obama wins

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esplanade

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 10:11 AM ET #175

I just want to know where you can get $10,000 down on the election.
Dubious..........................

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