Obama vs romney

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 10:17 AM ET #176

Quote Originally Posted by Cool_Arrow:

As a political junkie the polling has been really bad!... Let me give you 3 states as examples of past polls of battleground states that were bad that favored Republicans.

Yup. If you look at the last two elections the actual results under-represents Democratic voters by 1-3%.

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Omfg.
4 yrs not long enough... Tell that to Reagan...

LOL that's funny... Reagan's first 4 years were considered average, he only received 53% of the vote during reelection. It was only during his 2nd term that approval went up.

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Dropping taxes on bizs won't matter... Tell that to Reagan. RR dropped the topline tax rate from 70% to 23%, DOUBLED receipts to the Treasury and created 20 Mil new jobs.

This is a blatant lie, but not surprising from a Fox News right-wing talking point. Receipt in 1981 was $599 billion. After Reagan cut income taxes in 1982 and 1987-88, it only went up to $991 after 8 years, much of it due to the expansion of the economy - that's not DOUBLED LOL. In contrast Clinton raised taxes, and federal receipts went from $1154b to $2025b. Funny how that works huh? All the REAL data can be found on the Tax Policy Center website.

Reagan also increased our debt 150% (the first of many Republican debt increases) by cutting taxes. You're gonna praise that?

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Since we have true genius in our presence, show me where on the globe Keynesian economics works?

Are you serious? Look up the economic history of the free world since World War 2...

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Or for that matter, where Socialism isn't forced upon the people by the barrel of a gun?

Yeah, all those people in modern 'socialist' Europe had it forced on them by the barrel of a gun...

You're not scoring any points with your sensationalistic and non-factual examples.

sscott999

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 10:38 AM ET #177

Quote Originally Posted by TedHJLee:

Guys I know this is not the right forum to post this. But nfl forum is the only one I go on. So here it goes. I have Obama to win the election to $10,000 at -140. I put it in July lol.

Now this bullshit Pitt game just dropped me in the hole $5,000. What do you thin should I hedge and just take the juice. Cuz Obama is -240 now. Thoughts?

You better hedge, Romney is going to win. Romney already has FL, NC, and VA wrapped up. If he wins Ohio, he wins it all. Right now he has an edge in Ohio and has pulled even in PA, which was unthinkable 2 months ago. He has held above 50% in the Gallup LV poll for 4 straight days now. No one who has polled above 50% in that poll less than 30 days out has ever LOST the election. Obama hasn't sniffed 50% yet. All the momentum is with Romney.

And here is something else you need to realize. The Clinton's HATE Obama with a passion. Hillary believes she is better off running in 2016 against an incumbent Romney rather than following up a 2nd Obama term. Yeah, I know Bill has been campaigning for Obama, but just the other day he said AT a campaign event, "[Obama] knows [the economy] isn't fixed yet." Hillary saying, "the buck stops with me" was another dig at Obama on Libya. Using that particular terminology from Harry Truman was a subtle way of letting her supporters know that Obama is the wrong guy for the job. I know TONS of Clinton loyalists and they are all either voting for Romney or not at all.

mikebdb

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 11:45 AM ET #178

i dont know what your smokin...romney doesnt have florida...and doesnt have virginia....both dead heat right now....florida will end up going to obama because of romney vaucher plan which is going to effect senior citizens

zzsignup

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:16 PM ET #179

Don't you know? All the states where Romney is tied or slightly behind goes to Romney!

crocnzeeba

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:18 PM ET #180

Obama -120

Romney EV

mikebdb

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:23 PM ET #181

if obama wins ohio...with either iowa or colorado going to him he wins

seppy21

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:24 PM ET #182

Obummer is going to lose. Book it. He is an empty suit...and an empty chair. DO NOT bet on Obummer. You WILL lose.

Btw alangrrbs, two have the debates have already taken place. What scares me is there are so many uninformed morons out there that Obama depends on. And if you read Time magazine, you ARE a moron.

mikebdb

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:27 PM ET #183

alot uninformed romney morons out there too.

IBEME

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Posted: Oct. 21, 2012 - 12:43 PM ET #184

I live in Ohio and Romney is not winning Ohio. Keep your Obama bet.

cambyspree99

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 1:42 AM ET #185

mitt foreign policy

Mayweather86

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 1:55 AM ET #186

10/21/12 8-1-0 88.89% +3450

Washington +7 500 WON +500

Minnesota -6.5 500 WON +500

Carolina +1 500 LOSS -550

New Orleans -1 500 WON +500

Green Bay -5 500 WON +500

Indianapolis -3 500 WON +500

Tennessee +3 500 WON +500

N.Y. Jets +10.5 500 WON +500

Pittsburgh -1 500 WON +500

jackoat

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 4:36 AM ET #187

Quote Originally Posted by zzsignup:

That's funny, when taxes were much higher than they are now in the 50s-80s, America GREW. So much for the higher taxes kill economy argument. As you probably know, biz are taxed on PROFITS, not revenues. For a biz to close simply because profit is down a few percent due to taxes is ludicrous.

Quote Originally Posted by Lundegaard:

Jobs, income tax rev, payroll tax rev, sales tax rev, all gone. I don't need it. Truthfully, i'd rather burn it than give it to someone like you. You and your sick generation can go fuck urself.

Would be nice to live in a country where everything society needs are free, i.e. the military, courts, safe roads/streets, etc. Keep dreaming.

you are a foolish man. I hope you have a felony

titletown22

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 6:10 PM ET #188

Quote Originally Posted by bluecob4lt:

You gotta understand that the Presidential Election falls on Electoral Votes while popular Votes are used to "determine ties".

Electoral Voters consist of about 500 people who the public elect into office such as senators, house representatives, and members of Congress.

titletown22

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 6:15 PM ET #189

Obama not the right pick empty suit & chair that's true. Bad for America. You are very uninformed or not informed at all. Don't end up in a road side ditch. Romney Ryan the right pick.....

cambyspree99

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 11:23 PM ET #190

obama kicked clueless romneys ass again tonight. no way romney is qualified to be president

foreign policy king romney

cambyspree99

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 11:36 PM ET #191

romney/ryan

i wonder who brandon weeden is voting for

LineKiller28

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Posted: Oct. 22, 2012 - 11:36 PM ET #192

Obama OWNED Mitt tonight.....the liar, tax avoider, JOB OUTSOURCER, he talks so tough for a guy whos made a ton of money off China and Iranian Oil, what a piece of work.....

cambyspree99

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:41 AM ET #193

obama

romney

Trey_Dogg

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:53 AM ET #194

Quote Originally Posted by cambyspree99:

obama kicked clueless romneys ass again tonight. no way romney is qualified to be president

foreign policy king romney

you are clearly a fool

Trey_Dogg

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:55 AM ET #195

Quote Originally Posted by jackoat:

People get so damn extreme when it comes to politics. To say obama has not accomplished anything in his life is too absurd to fathom. He became the president of the united states! As a black man! No question he is a horrible president but it does not make him a bad man or an unnaccomplished man.

Yes Romney will be ten times the president obama could ever be but all he will do is buy us a little time before we hit economic armaggeddon. We are 16 trillion dollars in debt. Thanks obama. You had under 10 four years ago. We are on a sinking ship, we can slow it by patching holes but IMO it is too late to save us. China gets a new premier in a month and he is gonna want the trillion dollars we owe him and we cant pay it. China is a big bad black bookie.

On another note, i think its hilarious that people hate romney because he is rich. I would much rather have a guy who knows how to make money trying to fix my economy over a guy who was literally handed all of his money. Wake up

obama is a lifetime politician. he's taken government checks all his life

romney is quite different.

KktdocT

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 12:57 AM ET #196

Don't wager against me, lad. I would eat your economic wealth alive.

Trey_Dogg

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 1:00 AM ET #197

Lad? you are definitely from the UK

love the bush-obama blend. funny

jasonperry91

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 1:01 AM ET #198

Quote Originally Posted by sscott999:

You better hedge, Romney is going to win. Romney already has FL, NC, and VA wrapped up. If he wins Ohio, he wins it all. Right now he has an edge in Ohio and has pulled even in PA, which was unthinkable 2 months ago. He has held above 50% in the Gallup LV poll for 4 straight days now. No one who has polled above 50% in that poll less than 30 days out has ever LOST the election. Obama hasn't sniffed 50% yet. All the momentum is with Romney.

And here is something else you need to realize. The Clinton's HATE Obama with a passion. Hillary believes she is better off running in 2016 against an incumbent Romney rather than following up a 2nd Obama term. Yeah, I know Bill has been campaigning for Obama, but just the other day he said AT a campaign event, "[Obama] knows [the economy] isn't fixed yet." Hillary saying, "the buck stops with me" was another dig at Obama on Libya. Using that particular terminology from Harry Truman was a subtle way of letting her supporters know that Obama is the wrong guy for the job. I know TONS of Clinton loyalists and they are all either voting for Romney or not at all.

lmao, just left the Hilton here in Vegas and the line is now Obama -270 and climbing fast. Talked to book mangr. and he said he hasn't taken any Romney money in days! Guess Vegas doesn't know what you know.

Trey_Dogg

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 1:04 AM ET #199

i just wish i took the Romney +400 line prior to the first debate.

it was -200 Obama/ +160 Romney before this last debate.

curious to see the line tomorrow.

Dahmer

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Posted: Oct. 23, 2012 - 1:04 AM ET #200

Wake the sheeple, explosive truth, esoteric agenda, kymatica. Don't be fooled

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