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    Hoyasaxa
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:19 AM ET #26

    Here's another example for you Saints followers-check out the Superbowl in 1991-Giants vs. Bills-no one could stop the Bills-they rolled the Raiders to get there 52-3-Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas,etc.

    The Giants had a QB named Jeff Hostetler but they had Bill Parcells, a good D and they didn't turn the ball over...who won that game? You can learn from history or you can get crushed by it...

    How about Texas vs. USC in the Nat Champ game? No one could beat Leinhart and Bush, right?

    But if you Saints people are interested, I have some Groupon stock for you to buy!

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    Here's another example for you Saints followers-check out the Superbowl in 1991-Giants vs. Bills-no one could stop the Bills-they rolled the Raiders to get there 52-3-Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas,etc.

    The Giants had a QB named Jeff Hostetler but they had Bill Parcells, a good D and they didn't turn the ball over...who won that game? You can learn from history or you can get crushed by it...

    How about Texas vs. USC in the Nat Champ game? No one could beat Leinhart and Bush, right?

    But if you Saints people are interested, I have some Groupon stock for you to buy!

     
    Hoyasaxa
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #27

    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    You go right ahead and bet vs. a sure ballot hall of famer with alex smith sir. 

     

    And you went ahead and bet on Brady vs. the Jets minus 9 last year in the playoffs!

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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    You go right ahead and bet vs. a sure ballot hall of famer with alex smith sir. 

     

    And you went ahead and bet on Brady vs. the Jets minus 9 last year in the playoffs!

     
    parabola
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:23 AM ET #28

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Here's another example for you Saints followers-check out the Superbowl in 1991-Giants vs. Bills-no one could stop the Bills-they rolled the Raiders to get there 52-3-Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas,etc.

    The Giants had a QB named Jeff Hostetler but they had Bill Parcells, a good D and they didn't turn the ball over...who won that game? You can learn from history or you can get crushed by it...

    How about Texas vs. USC in the Nat Champ game? No one could beat Leinhart and Bush, right?

    But if you Saints people are interested, I have some Groupon stock for you to buy!


    The saints aren't the 1990's Bills.  They are SuperBowl Champions.
    If I am trying to talk myself into plays by referencing a game played between 2 different teams 21 years ago no less then that's a play I shouldn't be on.

    The 49ers can win if the Saints turn the ball over 3 times and Alex Smith plays lights out.
    That could happen but, I wouldn't bet on it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Here's another example for you Saints followers-check out the Superbowl in 1991-Giants vs. Bills-no one could stop the Bills-they rolled the Raiders to get there 52-3-Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas,etc.

    The Giants had a QB named Jeff Hostetler but they had Bill Parcells, a good D and they didn't turn the ball over...who won that game? You can learn from history or you can get crushed by it...

    How about Texas vs. USC in the Nat Champ game? No one could beat Leinhart and Bush, right?

    But if you Saints people are interested, I have some Groupon stock for you to buy!


    The saints aren't the 1990's Bills.  They are SuperBowl Champions.
    If I am trying to talk myself into plays by referencing a game played between 2 different teams 21 years ago no less then that's a play I shouldn't be on.

    The 49ers can win if the Saints turn the ball over 3 times and Alex Smith plays lights out.
    That could happen but, I wouldn't bet on it.


     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:27 AM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    Not as much as the 49ers lack of offense. You really want to bet alex smith vs. drew brees.. And harbaugh vs. sean payton? Gl with that. If harbaugh plays it conservatively like he has all year they lose even if your defense plays amazing. San francisco is far from the most hostile road environment i can think of , and i doubt the weather will be a factor. Hence the name degengambler! Forecast calls for RAIN. Brees in the rain on grass is something like 2-14. With his 2 wins coming from sub 500 teams. They will pound the rock and play disciplined. Saints are paper tigers out of the dome/turf. Line is 3 now but when it opens for the sharps it will QUICKLY be bet down to pick em. I mean QUICKLY!

    Betting vs. brees and sean payton is 
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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    Not as much as the 49ers lack of offense. You really want to bet alex smith vs. drew brees.. And harbaugh vs. sean payton? Gl with that. If harbaugh plays it conservatively like he has all year they lose even if your defense plays amazing. San francisco is far from the most hostile road environment i can think of , and i doubt the weather will be a factor. Hence the name degengambler! Forecast calls for RAIN. Brees in the rain on grass is something like 2-14. With his 2 wins coming from sub 500 teams. They will pound the rock and play disciplined. Saints are paper tigers out of the dome/turf. Line is 3 now but when it opens for the sharps it will QUICKLY be bet down to pick em. I mean QUICKLY!

    Betting vs. brees and sean payton is 
     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:29 AM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    Not as much as the 49ers lack of offense. You really want to bet alex smith vs. drew brees.. And harbaugh vs. sean payton? Gl with that. If harbaugh plays it conservatively like he has all year they lose even if your defense plays amazing. San francisco is far from the most hostile road environment i can think of , and i doubt the weather will be a factor. 

    Betting vs. brees and sean payton is 
    Forecast calls for RAIN. Brees in the rain on grass is something like 2-14. With his 2 wins coming from sub 500 teams. They will pound the rock and play disciplined. Saints are paper tigers out of the dome/turf. Line is 3 now but when it opens for the sharps it will QUICKLY be bet down to pick em. I mean QUICKLY!
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    Quote Originally Posted by degengambler34:


    Not as much as the 49ers lack of offense. You really want to bet alex smith vs. drew brees.. And harbaugh vs. sean payton? Gl with that. If harbaugh plays it conservatively like he has all year they lose even if your defense plays amazing. San francisco is far from the most hostile road environment i can think of , and i doubt the weather will be a factor. 

    Betting vs. brees and sean payton is 
    Forecast calls for RAIN. Brees in the rain on grass is something like 2-14. With his 2 wins coming from sub 500 teams. They will pound the rock and play disciplined. Saints are paper tigers out of the dome/turf. Line is 3 now but when it opens for the sharps it will QUICKLY be bet down to pick em. I mean QUICKLY!
     
    Hoyasaxa
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:29 AM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by parabola:


    The saints aren't the 1990's Bills.  They are SuperBowl Champions.
    If I am trying to talk myself into plays by referencing a game played between 2 different teams 21 years ago no less then that's a play I shouldn't be on.

    The 49ers can win if the Saints turn the ball over 3 times and Alex Smith plays lights out.
    That could happen but, I wouldn't bet on it.
     
    Then maybe you should look at the Jets vs the Pats a year ago in the playoffs...who had the lights out offense in that one, bro?


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    Quote Originally Posted by parabola:


    The saints aren't the 1990's Bills.  They are SuperBowl Champions.
    If I am trying to talk myself into plays by referencing a game played between 2 different teams 21 years ago no less then that's a play I shouldn't be on.

    The 49ers can win if the Saints turn the ball over 3 times and Alex Smith plays lights out.
    That could happen but, I wouldn't bet on it.
     
    Then maybe you should look at the Jets vs the Pats a year ago in the playoffs...who had the lights out offense in that one, bro?


     
    ActionMagnet
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:29 AM ET #32

    Yeah and the same was said about the Giants vs the 18-0 Patriots.
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    Yeah and the same was said about the Giants vs the 18-0 Patriots.
     
    Europa
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:33 AM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by jasonperry91:

    Forecast calls for RAIN. Brees in the rain on grass is something like 2-14. With his 2 wins coming from sub 500 teams. They will pound the rock and play disciplined. Saints are paper tigers out of the dome/turf. Line is 3 now but when it opens for the sharps it will QUICKLY be bet down to pick em. I mean QUICKLY!

    Rain?? i checked with the Weather Channel long range twenty minutes ago, it will be sunny weekend.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jasonperry91:

    Forecast calls for RAIN. Brees in the rain on grass is something like 2-14. With his 2 wins coming from sub 500 teams. They will pound the rock and play disciplined. Saints are paper tigers out of the dome/turf. Line is 3 now but when it opens for the sharps it will QUICKLY be bet down to pick em. I mean QUICKLY!

    Rain?? i checked with the Weather Channel long range twenty minutes ago, it will be sunny weekend.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:34 AM ET #34

    Pro1 - i absolutely love this play.. I expect a low line and very little movement. Public should pound NO all week. SF has a solid chance to go to the bowl, imo. No love at all for west coast ever and they thrive in these situations. 
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    Pro1 - i absolutely love this play.. I expect a low line and very little movement. Public should pound NO all week. SF has a solid chance to go to the bowl, imo. No love at all for west coast ever and they thrive in these situations. 
     
    Hoyasaxa
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    Posted: Jan. 8, 2012 - 1:35 AM ET #35

    hey Parabola-how did NO do a year ago up in Seattle? Is that recent enough for you? GL, sir.
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    hey Parabola-how did NO do a year ago up in Seattle? Is that recent enough for you? GL, sir.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 1:44 PM ET #36

    locking this in now San Fran +4 -118

    feel like the line could get juiced more later. I think San Fran wins also will put something on the ml.
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    locking this in now San Fran +4 -118

    feel like the line could get juiced more later. I think San Fran wins also will put something on the ml.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 1:52 PM ET #37

    +4 now

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    +4 now

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 1:53 PM ET #38

    Professional1, do you also like 49ers 1st half at +3 -107?
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    Professional1, do you also like 49ers 1st half at +3 -107?
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:10 PM ET #39

    Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:



    does the saints lack of a defense not concern you?

    Saints D much better this season than last.  I think Saints D last season were banged up.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Professional1:



    does the saints lack of a defense not concern you?

    Saints D much better this season than last.  I think Saints D last season were banged up.

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:11 PM ET #40

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Here's another example for you Saints followers-check out the Superbowl in 1991-Giants vs. Bills-no one could stop the Bills-they rolled the Raiders to get there 52-3-Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas,etc.

    The Giants had a QB named Jeff Hostetler but they had Bill Parcells, a good D and they didn't turn the ball over...who won that game? You can learn from history or you can get crushed by it...

    How about Texas vs. USC in the Nat Champ game? No one could beat Leinhart and Bush, right?

    But if you Saints people are interested, I have some Groupon stock for you to buy!

    Texas beat USC with VY's legs.  Not sure if that had anything to do with USC's offense.  USC had no problem scoring. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

    Here's another example for you Saints followers-check out the Superbowl in 1991-Giants vs. Bills-no one could stop the Bills-they rolled the Raiders to get there 52-3-Jim Kelly, Thurmon Thomas,etc.

    The Giants had a QB named Jeff Hostetler but they had Bill Parcells, a good D and they didn't turn the ball over...who won that game? You can learn from history or you can get crushed by it...

    How about Texas vs. USC in the Nat Champ game? No one could beat Leinhart and Bush, right?

    But if you Saints people are interested, I have some Groupon stock for you to buy!

    Texas beat USC with VY's legs.  Not sure if that had anything to do with USC's offense.  USC had no problem scoring. 

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:12 PM ET #41

    Bunch of R-Tarts up in here saying the 49'ers are gonna beat Brees. Foolish comments by many. I like the guy that said the Saints are going to drop the hammer. All of you Alex Smith believers please look at 49'ers wins and who there opponent was..GARBAGE..Please look at there competition they play..GARBAGE..Please look at there division...GARBAGE....Is anyone getting the point here?!! Also to add to the mix please look at who they lost against and who they nearly lost against...I know nearly doesnt matter but blowing a 34-7 lead vs. The battered Rams is pretty bad and to add insult to injury the 49'ers lost to the Arizona Cardinals and JOHN F'ING Skelton...ARE YOU SERIOUS...And also blew a 2 touchdown lead vs the Cowboys at home in the 4th qtr....This ladies and gentlemen is why I love all you 49'ers believers...Your hopes will be let down year after year until you wake up and realize that Smith IS NOT the answer to your problems.
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    Bunch of R-Tarts up in here saying the 49'ers are gonna beat Brees. Foolish comments by many. I like the guy that said the Saints are going to drop the hammer. All of you Alex Smith believers please look at 49'ers wins and who there opponent was..GARBAGE..Please look at there competition they play..GARBAGE..Please look at there division...GARBAGE....Is anyone getting the point here?!! Also to add to the mix please look at who they lost against and who they nearly lost against...I know nearly doesnt matter but blowing a 34-7 lead vs. The battered Rams is pretty bad and to add insult to injury the 49'ers lost to the Arizona Cardinals and JOHN F'ING Skelton...ARE YOU SERIOUS...And also blew a 2 touchdown lead vs the Cowboys at home in the 4th qtr....This ladies and gentlemen is why I love all you 49'ers believers...Your hopes will be let down year after year until you wake up and realize that Smith IS NOT the answer to your problems.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:23 PM ET #42

    the competition angle isn't persuasive.  the 49ers were 4-1 against playoff teams.  the saints had a good record as well but were 1-1 on the road against playoff teams, where they'll be this weekend.  they also played just one top 10 defense on the road, which also happened to be one of the worst teams in the league, and struggled offensively. 

    maybe the saints win this easily, but if you are betting them because of the competition angle, your reasoning is flawed.
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    the competition angle isn't persuasive.  the 49ers were 4-1 against playoff teams.  the saints had a good record as well but were 1-1 on the road against playoff teams, where they'll be this weekend.  they also played just one top 10 defense on the road, which also happened to be one of the worst teams in the league, and struggled offensively. 

    maybe the saints win this easily, but if you are betting them because of the competition angle, your reasoning is flawed.
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:36 PM ET #43

    To me....Bottom Line hands Down...If the 49'ers dont contain Brees right off the get go..ITS OVER BEFORE IT STARTED..Lights Out....Im not saying that 49'ers cant win because we all know in this industry everything happens on any given day/night but given these 2 teams I like Saints more and by A LOT
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    To me....Bottom Line hands Down...If the 49'ers dont contain Brees right off the get go..ITS OVER BEFORE IT STARTED..Lights Out....Im not saying that 49'ers cant win because we all know in this industry everything happens on any given day/night but given these 2 teams I like Saints more and by A LOT
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:51 PM ET #44

    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

     

    You think the Saints D can stop a rested Frank Gore and Vernon Davis?

    Saints D doesnt need to stop anyone... just like NE's D sucks and GB's D sucks.... it all about how many points the O can score... Saints will stop SF enough for NOLA to get ahead and that is simple to see... SF wont be able to put pressure on brees and protect agasint the run... Sproles and Thomas will hit the gap if they send everyone... and if they dont put pressure on brees, then he picks SF apart in the secondary.... Please dont forget that the saints have 4 linemen (if you count Graham) in the probowl... they can protect brees long enough to let him do something... just wait and see

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hoyasaxa:

     

    You think the Saints D can stop a rested Frank Gore and Vernon Davis?

    Saints D doesnt need to stop anyone... just like NE's D sucks and GB's D sucks.... it all about how many points the O can score... Saints will stop SF enough for NOLA to get ahead and that is simple to see... SF wont be able to put pressure on brees and protect agasint the run... Sproles and Thomas will hit the gap if they send everyone... and if they dont put pressure on brees, then he picks SF apart in the secondary.... Please dont forget that the saints have 4 linemen (if you count Graham) in the probowl... they can protect brees long enough to let him do something... just wait and see

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:54 PM ET #45

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Rain?? i checked with the Weather Channel long range twenty minutes ago, it will be sunny weekend.

    and a nice 63 degrees.... Def not raining.... thought maybe he looked in New Orleans lol... but even then that isnt right cuz that is sunny and high of 58

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Rain?? i checked with the Weather Channel long range twenty minutes ago, it will be sunny weekend.

    and a nice 63 degrees.... Def not raining.... thought maybe he looked in New Orleans lol... but even then that isnt right cuz that is sunny and high of 58

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 2:57 PM ET #46

    There are a million examples of upsets.... what makes you think that it will happen here.... also most of the upsets that people are talking about happend when a team is a 10 pt dog and then win.... that happens most of the time because the favorite takes the dog too lightly (seattle and saints last year)... that isnt going to happen here... saints know it wont be easy.. they will have their A game.... Bet it
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    There are a million examples of upsets.... what makes you think that it will happen here.... also most of the upsets that people are talking about happend when a team is a 10 pt dog and then win.... that happens most of the time because the favorite takes the dog too lightly (seattle and saints last year)... that isnt going to happen here... saints know it wont be easy.. they will have their A game.... Bet it
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:04 PM ET #47

    Drew Brees is on an atomic flame and they have have 3 solid running backs and 2 of them can catch screen passes very well.  There o-line is one of the most athletic in the NFL and biggest!  There d-fence has been creating turn-overs and San Fran offense is suspect at best!  Pressure and limelight too much for Alex Smith, take the proven winner and much hotter team.  Saints win 27-20
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    Drew Brees is on an atomic flame and they have have 3 solid running backs and 2 of them can catch screen passes very well.  There o-line is one of the most athletic in the NFL and biggest!  There d-fence has been creating turn-overs and San Fran offense is suspect at best!  Pressure and limelight too much for Alex Smith, take the proven winner and much hotter team.  Saints win 27-20
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:06 PM ET #48

    Quote Originally Posted by smokin376:

    Bunch of R-Tarts up in here saying the 49'ers are gonna beat Brees. Foolish comments by many. I like the guy that said the Saints are going to drop the hammer. All of you Alex Smith believers please look at 49'ers wins and who there opponent was..GARBAGE..Please look at there competition they play..GARBAGE..Please look at there division...GARBAGE....Is anyone getting the point here?!! Also to add to the mix please look at who they lost against and who they nearly lost against...I know nearly doesnt matter but blowing a 34-7 lead vs. The battered Rams is pretty bad and to add insult to injury the 49'ers lost to the Arizona Cardinals and JOHN F'ING Skelton...ARE YOU SERIOUS...And also blew a 2 touchdown lead vs the Cowboys at home in the 4th qtr....This ladies and gentlemen is why I love all you 49'ers believers...Your hopes will be let down year after year until you wake up and realize that Smith IS NOT the answer to your problems.

     

    Why would you use the Ram's as an example!?

    49ers beat the Rams and the Saints lost to them...lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by smokin376:

    Bunch of R-Tarts up in here saying the 49'ers are gonna beat Brees. Foolish comments by many. I like the guy that said the Saints are going to drop the hammer. All of you Alex Smith believers please look at 49'ers wins and who there opponent was..GARBAGE..Please look at there competition they play..GARBAGE..Please look at there division...GARBAGE....Is anyone getting the point here?!! Also to add to the mix please look at who they lost against and who they nearly lost against...I know nearly doesnt matter but blowing a 34-7 lead vs. The battered Rams is pretty bad and to add insult to injury the 49'ers lost to the Arizona Cardinals and JOHN F'ING Skelton...ARE YOU SERIOUS...And also blew a 2 touchdown lead vs the Cowboys at home in the 4th qtr....This ladies and gentlemen is why I love all you 49'ers believers...Your hopes will be let down year after year until you wake up and realize that Smith IS NOT the answer to your problems.

     

    Why would you use the Ram's as an example!?

    49ers beat the Rams and the Saints lost to them...lol

     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:08 PM ET #49

    Quote Originally Posted by dankszank:

    Drew Brees is on an atomic flame and they have have 3 solid running backs and 2 of them can catch screen passes very well.  There o-line is one of the most athletic in the NFL and biggest!  There d-fence has been creating turn-overs and San Fran offense is suspect at best!  Pressure and limelight too much for Alex Smith, take the proven winner and much hotter team.  Saints win 27-20

     

     I agree except I dont think SF will score 20... I think the gap will be larger too... more like 35-14

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    Quote Originally Posted by dankszank:

    Drew Brees is on an atomic flame and they have have 3 solid running backs and 2 of them can catch screen passes very well.  There o-line is one of the most athletic in the NFL and biggest!  There d-fence has been creating turn-overs and San Fran offense is suspect at best!  Pressure and limelight too much for Alex Smith, take the proven winner and much hotter team.  Saints win 27-20

     

     I agree except I dont think SF will score 20... I think the gap will be larger too... more like 35-14

     
     
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    Posted: Jan. 13, 2012 - 3:15 PM ET #50

    Just hit 4 on my site.  Dropped 2 dimes on it.  Also parlaying SF ML/Ravens ML for a good chunk. 
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    Just hit 4 on my site.  Dropped 2 dimes on it.  Also parlaying SF ML/Ravens ML for a good chunk. 
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