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    jowchoo
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 2:41 AM ET #101

    Indigo:

    Would you consider this query valid?

    p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017

    which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small?

    Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?

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    Indigo:

    Would you consider this query valid?

    p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017

    which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small?

    Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 2:54 AM ET #102

    Starting to get it..Does the sample size have a minimum size for you to carry on.

     

    p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and season >2017

    gives a (16-10) 61% ats

    Is the ats success not large enough?

     

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    Starting to get it..Does the sample size have a minimum size for you to carry on.

     

    p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and season >2017

    gives a (16-10) 61% ats

    Is the ats success not large enough?

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 2:57 AM ET #103

    @jowchoo

     Can not figure out to edit my post?

    NYG is a candidate for this query.

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    @jowchoo

     Can not figure out to edit my post?

    NYG is a candidate for this query.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 3:14 AM ET #104

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Indigo: Would you consider this query valid? p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017 which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small? Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?

     

     

    Yes, that is better....I would need another query that agrees with that for me to play a team with a 12 game sample, however there's always exceptions to every rule.

    Your second query is a pretty powerful angle.....you can make the sample size much bigger by going back further in time, but 26 game sample size is enough for me to make a play.....I've mentioned this angle in this thread and going back since 1989 it has a long track record of success.....if you add another parameter that our play-on team has a winning record this moves to 43-15 ATS since 1989.........

    tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW

     

    In the end, after we have pretty good queries that indicate teams in strong situations, then we have to see how it fits with feeling about the game.

    I normally would play the Giants, but I don't like to go against Lamar Jackson on the road, so I will pass, but that is not to say that you should.

    As I've said, everyone has a differing perception of reality, so, one can put the exact same indicators out to 1000 people and they will all pick different teams to bet on....and it is what makes a market on a game.

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Indigo: Would you consider this query valid? p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017 which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small? Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?

     

     

    Yes, that is better....I would need another query that agrees with that for me to play a team with a 12 game sample, however there's always exceptions to every rule.

    Your second query is a pretty powerful angle.....you can make the sample size much bigger by going back further in time, but 26 game sample size is enough for me to make a play.....I've mentioned this angle in this thread and going back since 1989 it has a long track record of success.....if you add another parameter that our play-on team has a winning record this moves to 43-15 ATS since 1989.........

    tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW

     

    In the end, after we have pretty good queries that indicate teams in strong situations, then we have to see how it fits with feeling about the game.

    I normally would play the Giants, but I don't like to go against Lamar Jackson on the road, so I will pass, but that is not to say that you should.

    As I've said, everyone has a differing perception of reality, so, one can put the exact same indicators out to 1000 people and they will all pick different teams to bet on....and it is what makes a market on a game.

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 3:30 AM ET #105

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: Indigo: Would you consider this query valid? p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017 which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small? Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?     Yes, that is better....I would need another query that agrees with that for me to play a team with a 12 game sample, however there's always exceptions to every rule. Your second query is a pretty powerful angle.....you can make the sample size much bigger by going back further in time, but 26 game sample size is enough for me to make a play.....I've mentioned this angle in this thread and going back since 1989 it has a long track record of success.....if you add another parameter that our play-on team has a winning record this moves to 43-15 ATS since 1989......... tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW   In the end, after we have pretty good queries that indicate teams in strong situations, then we have to see how it fits with feeling about the game. I normally would play the Giants, but I don't like to go against Lamar Jackson on the road, so I will pass, but that is not to say that you should. As I've said, everyone has a differing perception of reality, so, one can put the exact same indicators out to 1000 people and they will all pick different teams to bet on....and it is what makes a market on a game.

    Does this one help in backing NYG?

    p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and season >2017    (26-13) on NYG

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999:

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: Indigo: Would you consider this query valid? p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017 which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small? Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?     Yes, that is better....I would need another query that agrees with that for me to play a team with a 12 game sample, however there's always exceptions to every rule. Your second query is a pretty powerful angle.....you can make the sample size much bigger by going back further in time, but 26 game sample size is enough for me to make a play.....I've mentioned this angle in this thread and going back since 1989 it has a long track record of success.....if you add another parameter that our play-on team has a winning record this moves to 43-15 ATS since 1989......... tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW   In the end, after we have pretty good queries that indicate teams in strong situations, then we have to see how it fits with feeling about the game. I normally would play the Giants, but I don't like to go against Lamar Jackson on the road, so I will pass, but that is not to say that you should. As I've said, everyone has a differing perception of reality, so, one can put the exact same indicators out to 1000 people and they will all pick different teams to bet on....and it is what makes a market on a game.

    Does this one help in backing NYG?

    p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and season >2017    (26-13) on NYG

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 3:36 AM ET #106

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999: Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: Indigo: Would you consider this query valid? p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017 which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small? Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?     Yes, that is better....I would need another query that agrees with that for me to play a team with a 12 game sample, however there's always exceptions to every rule. Your second query is a pretty powerful angle.....you can make the sample size much bigger by going back further in time, but 26 game sample size is enough for me to make a play.....I've mentioned this angle in this thread and going back since 1989 it has a long track record of success.....if you add another parameter that our play-on team has a winning record this moves to 43-15 ATS since 1989......... tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW   In the end, after we have pretty good queries that indicate teams in strong situations, then we have to see how it fits with feeling about the game. I normally would play the Giants, but I don't like to go against Lamar Jackson on the road, so I will pass, but that is not to say that you should. As I've said, everyone has a differing perception of reality, so, one can put the exact same indicators out to 1000 people and they will all pick different teams to bet on....and it is what makes a market on a game. Does this one help in backing NYG? p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and season >2017    (26-13) on NYG

    Sorry disregard

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    Quote Originally Posted by Indigo999: Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: Indigo: Would you consider this query valid? p:AL and pp:AL and HD and op:HW and season >2017 which yields (8-3-1) 72.7% with MIAMI a candidate..Is sample size too small? Unsettled Miami qb is a wager breaker here?     Yes, that is better....I would need another query that agrees with that for me to play a team with a 12 game sample, however there's always exceptions to every rule. Your second query is a pretty powerful angle.....you can make the sample size much bigger by going back further in time, but 26 game sample size is enough for me to make a play.....I've mentioned this angle in this thread and going back since 1989 it has a long track record of success.....if you add another parameter that our play-on team has a winning record this moves to 43-15 ATS since 1989......... tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW   In the end, after we have pretty good queries that indicate teams in strong situations, then we have to see how it fits with feeling about the game. I normally would play the Giants, but I don't like to go against Lamar Jackson on the road, so I will pass, but that is not to say that you should. As I've said, everyone has a differing perception of reality, so, one can put the exact same indicators out to 1000 people and they will all pick different teams to bet on....and it is what makes a market on a game. Does this one help in backing NYG? p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and season >2017    (26-13) on NYG

    Sorry disregard

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 4:48 AM ET #107

    p:HFW and HD and op:HFW and season >2015

    Would you consider KC under these results? (16-7) 69.6%

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    p:HFW and HD and op:HFW and season >2015

    Would you consider KC under these results? (16-7) 69.6%

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 9:08 AM ET #108

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    p:HFW and HD and op:HFW and season >2015 Would you consider KC under these results? (16-7) 69.6%

     

     

    Yes, that is valid though teams with playoff loss revenge has historically done well...don't know how to query that though.

     

    Your Giants query is 16-2 ATS in October games and 33-7 ATS if you exclude December games.....they've won straight up 27 out of 40 times with an average line of +4.1.

    tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and 8<month<12

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    p:HFW and HD and op:HFW and season >2015 Would you consider KC under these results? (16-7) 69.6%

     

     

    Yes, that is valid though teams with playoff loss revenge has historically done well...don't know how to query that though.

     

    Your Giants query is 16-2 ATS in October games and 33-7 ATS if you exclude December games.....they've won straight up 27 out of 40 times with an average line of +4.1.

    tA(W)>.5 and p:ADW and HD and op:HFW and 8<month<12

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 1:19 PM ET #109

    Teams that lost previous matchup by 35+

    56-36 ATS (60.87%)

    Hmm steelers would fit this. Brady not covering 3 straight is scary tho imo, imagine it hasn't happened very often. I think the personal issues are affecting him a ton he's not nearly as focused, could they get a lead and just coast again this week?!

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    Teams that lost previous matchup by 35+

    56-36 ATS (60.87%)

    Hmm steelers would fit this. Brady not covering 3 straight is scary tho imo, imagine it hasn't happened very often. I think the personal issues are affecting him a ton he's not nearly as focused, could they get a lead and just coast again this week?!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 5:53 PM ET #110

    Playoff revenge:

    P:L and P:PO = 1

    Does not look promising.  More parameters might discover something playable.

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    Playoff revenge:

    P:L and P:PO = 1

    Does not look promising.  More parameters might discover something playable.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 5:59 PM ET #111

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     PIT beat TB 30-27 in their previous matchup on 2018-09-24.

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     PIT beat TB 30-27 in their previous matchup on 2018-09-24.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 6:21 PM ET #112

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     I believe it's referring to the last game as in week 5 but maybe you're right I'll look into that 

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     I believe it's referring to the last game as in week 5 but maybe you're right I'll look into that 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 6:32 PM ET #113

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     my bad I think it was referring to the "match up" not last game. I don't think any of this week's games fit the bill for that trend! Thanks for pointing that out!

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     my bad I think it was referring to the "match up" not last game. I don't think any of this week's games fit the bill for that trend! Thanks for pointing that out!

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 6:42 PM ET #114

    @Bucksfan92

     

    You're welcome.  

    Remember:  "P" refers to the previous matchup.  "p" refers to the previous game.

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    @Bucksfan92

     

    You're welcome.  

    Remember:  "P" refers to the previous matchup.  "p" refers to the previous game.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 7:22 PM ET #115

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     Ok thanks and just looking over the slate the pats beat Browns 45-7 last season so pats would qualify.. 

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     Ok thanks and just looking over the slate the pats beat Browns 45-7 last season so pats would qualify.. 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 15, 2022 - 9:01 PM ET #116

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     "This data was collected by marking any teams who won or lost by a point differential over 28 points and tracking those teams’ following matchups performance. If a team went into a bye week, spread data from their following matchup was used."

    Ok I was able to find this so it sounds like it is just whoever they play following week. Not specifically the team they play in wk6. The 28 pt losing teams record ats was 155-134 following wk 53.63% 

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     "This data was collected by marking any teams who won or lost by a point differential over 28 points and tracking those teams’ following matchups performance. If a team went into a bye week, spread data from their following matchup was used."

    Ok I was able to find this so it sounds like it is just whoever they play following week. Not specifically the team they play in wk6. The 28 pt losing teams record ats was 155-134 following wk 53.63% 

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2022 - 1:21 AM ET #117

    confirmation of Bengals pick?

    HD and p:RY-op:RY>100 and op:AL

    (5-13) ats

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    confirmation of Bengals pick?

    HD and p:RY-op:RY>100 and op:AL

    (5-13) ats

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2022 - 1:30 AM ET #118

    this has a larger sample size with over 70% success

    HD and p:RY-op:RY>100 and op:AL  (22-54-1)

    Good or not?

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    this has a larger sample size with over 70% success

    HD and p:RY-op:RY>100 and op:AL  (22-54-1)

    Good or not?

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2022 - 1:32 AM ET #119

    should be

    HD and p:RY-op:RY>50 and op:AL

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    should be

    HD and p:RY-op:RY>50 and op:AL

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2022 - 12:48 PM ET #120

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    should be HD and p:RY-op:RY>50 and op:AL

    That is a solid find.  Good luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo:

    should be HD and p:RY-op:RY>50 and op:AL

    That is a solid find.  Good luck.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2022 - 2:39 PM ET #121

    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: should be HD and p:RY-op:RY>50 and op:AL That is a solid find.  Good luck.
     

      thanx still just getting my feet wet

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    Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:

    Quote Originally Posted by jowchoo: should be HD and p:RY-op:RY>50 and op:AL That is a solid find.  Good luck.
     

      thanx still just getting my feet wet

     
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    Posted: Oct. 16, 2022 - 4:25 PM ET #122

    1)  Redskins/Commies pik..........winner

    2)  Jaguars +1...............loser, Jaguars snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

    3)  Jets +7'...............winner

    4)  Patriots +3..........winner

    5)  Jags/Colts UNDER 42'..........loser

    6)  Cowboys/Eagles UNDER 42

    7)  Chargers/Broncos UNDER 45'

    8)  Bengals -2', -120..........winner, Bengals snatch victory from the jaws of defeat......so you wanna be an NFL bettor, eh?.....lol

     

     

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    1)  Redskins/Commies pik..........winner

    2)  Jaguars +1...............loser, Jaguars snatch defeat from the jaws of victory

    3)  Jets +7'...............winner

    4)  Patriots +3..........winner

    5)  Jags/Colts UNDER 42'..........loser

    6)  Cowboys/Eagles UNDER 42

    7)  Chargers/Broncos UNDER 45'

    8)  Bengals -2', -120..........winner, Bengals snatch victory from the jaws of defeat......so you wanna be an NFL bettor, eh?.....lol

     

     

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2022 - 12:22 AM ET #123

    Picks go 3-3 for the week 43-22 ATS for the season, pending MNF UNDER.

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    Picks go 3-3 for the week 43-22 ATS for the season, pending MNF UNDER.

     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2022 - 1:10 AM ET #124

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     You listed 4 winners in Comment #122 - WAS, NYJ, NE and CIN.  Congratulations.

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    @Indigo999

     You listed 4 winners in Comment #122 - WAS, NYJ, NE and CIN.  Congratulations.

     
     
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    Posted: Oct. 17, 2022 - 9:50 AM ET #125

    @Indigo999

     Nonetheless a Great record thus far.

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    @Indigo999

     Nonetheless a Great record thus far.

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