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    200,000 Americans dead from trump-enabled contagion

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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 2:29 PM ET #26

    If Obama implemented neck gaiters 450,000 lives could have been saved! 

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    If Obama implemented neck gaiters 450,000 lives could have been saved! 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 2:49 PM ET #27

    Detox... democrats are desperate,  they just throw crap at the wall in hopes something sticks...  yes lives are being lost and its horrible and my heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones. But to blame trump alone is comical.  He shut down travel ,which was called xenophobic and fear mongering....  funny how Joe never refers covid in association with china....  China has made the biden family really really rich.   Biden only recently acknowledged the violence,  because the polls showed he was dropping ,  he chooses party over people... btw cuomo killed more people than bin laden, yet he blames trump....  they are floundering and desperate..

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    Detox... democrats are desperate,  they just throw crap at the wall in hopes something sticks...  yes lives are being lost and its horrible and my heart goes out to all those who have lost loved ones. But to blame trump alone is comical.  He shut down travel ,which was called xenophobic and fear mongering....  funny how Joe never refers covid in association with china....  China has made the biden family really really rich.   Biden only recently acknowledged the violence,  because the polls showed he was dropping ,  he chooses party over people... btw cuomo killed more people than bin laden, yet he blames trump....  they are floundering and desperate..

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 2:59 PM ET #28

    Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed? Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon. peace

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    Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed? Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon. peace

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 3:32 PM ET #29

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed?
    Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon.

    Beats me ....they are such a great Batman and Robin act..

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    Quote Originally Posted by Europa:

    Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed?
    Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon.

    Beats me ....they are such a great Batman and Robin act..

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 3:55 PM ET #30

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed? Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon. Beats me ....they are such a great Batman and Robin act..

    I think you mean "Tom and Jerry".

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    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim:

    Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed? Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon. Beats me ....they are such a great Batman and Robin act..

    I think you mean "Tom and Jerry".

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 4:26 PM ET #31

    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed? Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon. Beats me ....they are such a great Batman and Robin act.. I think you mean "Tom and Jerry".

    I stand corrected.......peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by gambleholic63:

    Quote Originally Posted by SarasotaSlim: Quote Originally Posted by Europa: Why did Fubah2 and KellyM_1964 get boxed? Hopefully, both of them get out the box soon. Beats me ....they are such a great Batman and Robin act.. I think you mean "Tom and Jerry".

    I stand corrected.......peace_5

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 6:50 PM ET #32

    They got boxed for the same reason any of you do, if you overly insult and make personal remarks then reasonable odds are you will get boxed. If you break the rules even stronger you will get boxed for longer, or banned.

     

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    They got boxed for the same reason any of you do, if you overly insult and make personal remarks then reasonable odds are you will get boxed. If you break the rules even stronger you will get boxed for longer, or banned.

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 7:37 PM ET #33

    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 200,000 people have died from Covid-19 in the US. That's more than the US battle deaths from 5 wars combined CNNWhat happened today seemed impossible to many Americans six months ago.When Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted in March that Covid-19 could kill 200,000 people in the US, skeptics lambasted him and accused him of fearmongering. And the US reached that bleak milestone much earlier than some experts predicted. Since the first known US Covid-19 death on February 6, an average of more than 858 people have died from the disease EVERY DAY.By contrast - South Korea a mask wearing country of 51 million -has a year-to-date TOTAL of just 388 covid deaths (as of Sep 21) Covid-19 is now the second-leading cause of death in the US, just after heart disease, according to the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. Source:    https://tinyurl.com/y6z7pnur   200,000  dead because of rump and his accomplices  unforgivable I agree.  South Korea -- right next door to CHINA! - has 388 dead from covid and they didn't lock down!
    How many times can u say South korea is next to China????? Another 50,00 threads - Geezus dude - get a life

     

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    Quote Originally Posted by fubah2:

    Quote Originally Posted by KellyM_1964: Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: 200,000 people have died from Covid-19 in the US. That's more than the US battle deaths from 5 wars combined CNNWhat happened today seemed impossible to many Americans six months ago.When Dr. Anthony Fauci predicted in March that Covid-19 could kill 200,000 people in the US, skeptics lambasted him and accused him of fearmongering. And the US reached that bleak milestone much earlier than some experts predicted. Since the first known US Covid-19 death on February 6, an average of more than 858 people have died from the disease EVERY DAY.By contrast - South Korea a mask wearing country of 51 million -has a year-to-date TOTAL of just 388 covid deaths (as of Sep 21) Covid-19 is now the second-leading cause of death in the US, just after heart disease, according to the University of Washington's Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation. Source:    https://tinyurl.com/y6z7pnur   200,000  dead because of rump and his accomplices  unforgivable I agree.  South Korea -- right next door to CHINA! - has 388 dead from covid and they didn't lock down!
    How many times can u say South korea is next to China????? Another 50,00 threads - Geezus dude - get a life

     

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 7:48 PM ET #34

    Let me ask fubah and kelly and deezy and the rest of the "Posse". How many deaths of the 200,000 come from Democratic lead state governors who

    insisted that these nursing homes admit Covid patients. I know the answer but i guarantee none of you do! C'mon you heroes , give me the answer!

    If you know and admit the answer then your whole fkin logic goes out the window. There is know way any of you will respond to this post, i guarentee you won't or can't. Cmon dudes, let's here your response.

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    Let me ask fubah and kelly and deezy and the rest of the "Posse". How many deaths of the 200,000 come from Democratic lead state governors who

    insisted that these nursing homes admit Covid patients. I know the answer but i guarantee none of you do! C'mon you heroes , give me the answer!

    If you know and admit the answer then your whole fkin logic goes out the window. There is know way any of you will respond to this post, i guarentee you won't or can't. Cmon dudes, let's here your response.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 7:55 PM ET #35

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    South Korean politicians didn’t urge people to gather in groups of 100,000 to protest.  Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for leading black Americans into harms way like that.  NYC death rates by race:  Black - 92 per 100,000  Hispanic - 74 per 100,000  White - 35 per 100,000  Asian - 25 per 100,000  There should be an investigation to see if Democrats encouraged the large gatherings in an attempt to kill minorities. Democrats are truly disgusting people and they should be ashamed of themselves. I might burn down a Wendy’s on my way home from work in protest.

    It was disproportionately killing black people looong before George Floyd and protest. And there is no definitive answer why. There are the obvious reasons. Less access to comprehensive healthcare, higher rates of obesity, diabetes. I think these all factor in but I also follow a Ph.D in nutrition who posits that it has something to do with a vitamin D deficiency. Who knows but I will say that I take a vitamin D supplement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    South Korean politicians didn’t urge people to gather in groups of 100,000 to protest.  Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for leading black Americans into harms way like that.  NYC death rates by race:  Black - 92 per 100,000  Hispanic - 74 per 100,000  White - 35 per 100,000  Asian - 25 per 100,000  There should be an investigation to see if Democrats encouraged the large gatherings in an attempt to kill minorities. Democrats are truly disgusting people and they should be ashamed of themselves. I might burn down a Wendy’s on my way home from work in protest.

    It was disproportionately killing black people looong before George Floyd and protest. And there is no definitive answer why. There are the obvious reasons. Less access to comprehensive healthcare, higher rates of obesity, diabetes. I think these all factor in but I also follow a Ph.D in nutrition who posits that it has something to do with a vitamin D deficiency. Who knows but I will say that I take a vitamin D supplement.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 7:58 PM ET #36

    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    If Obama implemented neck gaiters 450,000 lives could have been saved!

    Is that the total for 8 years?

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    If Obama implemented neck gaiters 450,000 lives could have been saved!

    Is that the total for 8 years?

     
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    Trump's poor leadership has made a terrible situation worse.

    His constant denial of it's existence & playing down it's danger was the wrong message to send as we still have people walking around without masks infecting others which puts heavier demand on our healthcare system nationwide.

    Unfortunately, he surrounds himself with weak people and "yes" men/women who perpetuate his ego stroking needs.

     

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    Trump's poor leadership has made a terrible situation worse.

    His constant denial of it's existence & playing down it's danger was the wrong message to send as we still have people walking around without masks infecting others which puts heavier demand on our healthcare system nationwide.

    Unfortunately, he surrounds himself with weak people and "yes" men/women who perpetuate his ego stroking needs.

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Obama killed so many Americans with the flu.

    According to US center for disease control, almost 12,500 Americans died from swine flu in 12 months.  Whereas almost 190,000 Americans died from coronavirus in 6 months.    Overall, Obama administration's response was praised by experts from Vanderbilt university and Mount Sinai medical school.  According to politifact, Trump overstates public confidence in his administration's response to coronavirus and downplays confidence in Obama's response.  Actually, polls indicate most Americans were very confident in swine flu response.  In contrast, polls show  low approval in Trump's handling of coronavirus pandemic. 

    Obama administration would have responded more effectively to problems faced by Trump administration such as the shortage of protective equipment because they would have deferred more to public health experts.  In the past. global health security index rates US as best prepared country against pandemics because of Obama and Bush administrations.  Now under Trump, US has the most coronavirus cases and deaths of any country in the world.

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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    Obama killed so many Americans with the flu.

    According to US center for disease control, almost 12,500 Americans died from swine flu in 12 months.  Whereas almost 190,000 Americans died from coronavirus in 6 months.    Overall, Obama administration's response was praised by experts from Vanderbilt university and Mount Sinai medical school.  According to politifact, Trump overstates public confidence in his administration's response to coronavirus and downplays confidence in Obama's response.  Actually, polls indicate most Americans were very confident in swine flu response.  In contrast, polls show  low approval in Trump's handling of coronavirus pandemic. 

    Obama administration would have responded more effectively to problems faced by Trump administration such as the shortage of protective equipment because they would have deferred more to public health experts.  In the past. global health security index rates US as best prepared country against pandemics because of Obama and Bush administrations.  Now under Trump, US has the most coronavirus cases and deaths of any country in the world.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 22, 2020 - 10:06 PM ET #39

    And Piggy ignored the 69 page playbook plan left by President O if a pandemic arose. 

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    And Piggy ignored the 69 page playbook plan left by President O if a pandemic arose. 

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2020 - 8:19 AM ET #40

    Typical LIB/DEM Notice how the kid Fubah didnt even touch the comment about Trump stopping flights coming in from China and Biden and liberals getting all salty about it when it was the correct thing to do...which saved countless lives MAGA2020 and beyond.

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    Typical LIB/DEM Notice how the kid Fubah didnt even touch the comment about Trump stopping flights coming in from China and Biden and liberals getting all salty about it when it was the correct thing to do...which saved countless lives MAGA2020 and beyond.

     
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    Posted: Sep. 23, 2020 - 8:57 AM ET #41

    Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:

    According to US center for disease control, almost 12,500 Americans died from swine flu in 12 months.  Whereas almost 190,000 Americans died from coronavirus in 6 months.    Overall, Obama administration's response was praised by experts from Vanderbilt university and Mount Sinai medical school.  According to politifact, Trump overstates public confidence in his administration's response to coronavirus and downplays confidence in Obama's response.  Actually, polls indicate most Americans were very confident in swine flu response.  In contrast, polls show  low approval in Trump's handling of coronavirus pandemic.  Obama administration would have responded more effectively to problems faced by Trump administration such as the shortage of protective equipment because they would have deferred more to public health experts.  In the past. global health security index rates US as best prepared country against pandemics because of Obama and Bush administrations.  Now under Trump, US has the most coronavirus cases and deaths of any country in the world.

     

    You’re comparing apples to oranges. 

    12,000 American deaths were caused by the swine flu. They died FROM swine flu. 

    200,000 Americans died WITH (not from) corona.

    From April 2009 to April 2010 CDC estimated there were 60 million cases, 275,000 hospitalizations and 12,500 deaths. 

    If you counted the number of people that died WITH swine flu, the number would be astronomically higher. 

    If a person with corona gets killed in a motorcycle accident, that is counted as a corona death. 

    If a person with swine flu got killed in a motorcycle accident, that is not counted as a swine flu death. 

    It’s amazing how uneducated the public is on this subject. I hope this helps clear up some of your obvious confusions. 

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    According to US center for disease control, almost 12,500 Americans died from swine flu in 12 months.  Whereas almost 190,000 Americans died from coronavirus in 6 months.    Overall, Obama administration's response was praised by experts from Vanderbilt university and Mount Sinai medical school.  According to politifact, Trump overstates public confidence in his administration's response to coronavirus and downplays confidence in Obama's response.  Actually, polls indicate most Americans were very confident in swine flu response.  In contrast, polls show  low approval in Trump's handling of coronavirus pandemic.  Obama administration would have responded more effectively to problems faced by Trump administration such as the shortage of protective equipment because they would have deferred more to public health experts.  In the past. global health security index rates US as best prepared country against pandemics because of Obama and Bush administrations.  Now under Trump, US has the most coronavirus cases and deaths of any country in the world.

     

    You’re comparing apples to oranges. 

    12,000 American deaths were caused by the swine flu. They died FROM swine flu. 

    200,000 Americans died WITH (not from) corona.

    From April 2009 to April 2010 CDC estimated there were 60 million cases, 275,000 hospitalizations and 12,500 deaths. 

    If you counted the number of people that died WITH swine flu, the number would be astronomically higher. 

    If a person with corona gets killed in a motorcycle accident, that is counted as a corona death. 

    If a person with swine flu got killed in a motorcycle accident, that is not counted as a swine flu death. 

    It’s amazing how uneducated the public is on this subject. I hope this helps clear up some of your obvious confusions. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    And Piggy ignored the 69 page playbook plan left by President O if a pandemic arose.

    What specific things in the playbook did he ignore? 

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    And Piggy ignored the 69 page playbook plan left by President O if a pandemic arose.

    What specific things in the playbook did he ignore? 

     
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    The US had an estimated 60,000,000 cases of the swine flu in 09/10. 18.75% of the population. And 275,000 hospitalizations.   

    Roughly 3,000,000 Americans die every year.  

    Oregon Health Authority (OHA) considers Covid-19 deaths to be: 

    “Deaths in which a patient hospitalized for any reason within 14 days of a positive test dies in the hospital or within 60 days following discharge.

    And deaths in which Covid-19 is listed as a contributing cause (not primary cause) on a death certificate.” 

    If we were to use the same standards for the swine flu — how many people died WITH swine flu? 

     

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    The US had an estimated 60,000,000 cases of the swine flu in 09/10. 18.75% of the population. And 275,000 hospitalizations.   

    Roughly 3,000,000 Americans die every year.  

    Oregon Health Authority (OHA) considers Covid-19 deaths to be: 

    “Deaths in which a patient hospitalized for any reason within 14 days of a positive test dies in the hospital or within 60 days following discharge.

    And deaths in which Covid-19 is listed as a contributing cause (not primary cause) on a death certificate.” 

    If we were to use the same standards for the swine flu — how many people died WITH swine flu? 

     

     
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    One can only imagine how many more would've died if Billary was in office. an_light

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    One can only imagine how many more would've died if Billary was in office. an_light

     
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    One explanation for the low death rate in Asia is that the Asian population may have a higher degree of exposure to corona virus colds and therefore have more preexisting immunity. 

    That is far more likely than because Japan did X and the US did Y. 

    Preexisting immunity may explain why we have so many people with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. 

     

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    One explanation for the low death rate in Asia is that the Asian population may have a higher degree of exposure to corona virus colds and therefore have more preexisting immunity. 

    That is far more likely than because Japan did X and the US did Y. 

    Preexisting immunity may explain why we have so many people with very mild symptoms or asymptomatic. 

     

     
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    Where is the posse's answer to post 34? Cmon you haters that know everything??????? Give me an answer you fake fkr's.

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    Where is the posse's answer to post 34? Cmon you haters that know everything??????? Give me an answer you fake fkr's.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG:

    One can only imagine how many more would've died if Billary was in office.

    Of course there would have been less because she wouldn't have wasted time calling it a Republican hoax, she would have listened to her experts & she would have followed the pandemic plan created by President O's administration.

    Love that the piglets still rent out space in their heads to H.

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    One can only imagine how many more would've died if Billary was in office.

    Of course there would have been less because she wouldn't have wasted time calling it a Republican hoax, she would have listened to her experts & she would have followed the pandemic plan created by President O's administration.

    Love that the piglets still rent out space in their heads to H.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:

    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: One can only imagine how many more would've died if Billary was in office. Of course there would have been less because she wouldn't have wasted time calling it a Republican hoax, she would have listened to her experts & she would have followed the pandemic plan created by President O's administration. Love that the piglets still rent out space in their heads to H.
    Okay midnite,,I'm calling you out again, but not Hillary because she is an irrelevant human. What about Joe? How many more would be dead while he is screaming

    xeno and racist?

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    Quote Originally Posted by THEMUGG: One can only imagine how many more would've died if Billary was in office. Of course there would have been less because she wouldn't have wasted time calling it a Republican hoax, she would have listened to her experts & she would have followed the pandemic plan created by President O's administration. Love that the piglets still rent out space in their heads to H.
    Okay midnite,,I'm calling you out again, but not Hillary because she is an irrelevant human. What about Joe? How many more would be dead while he is screaming

    xeno and racist?

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by I_Need_A_Detox:

    South Korean politicians didn’t urge people to gather in groups of 100,000 to protest.  Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for leading black Americans into harms way like that.   There should be an investigation to see if Democrats encouraged the large gatherings in an attempt to kill minorities.

    Social injustice protests are fueled by police violence and racial inequality.  Investigation reveals black lives matter is an ideology and not an organization.  No evidence nationwide protests are organized by democrats.  Besides,  protests aren't a major cause of coronavirus infection according to studies by Harvard, Rutger and Northeastern universities.  Low increase of covid cases in cities with high rates of protests.  Risk is reduced by outdoor ventilation, mask wearing and protesters walking.  Indoor proximity of people is riskier than outdoor activity.  A mobile crowd is safer than a stationary one.  However Trump's push to reopen economy prematurely has lead to far more infections.  His rallies add to virus outbreaks.  Schools and stores report more infections.  Now covid cases are increasing in most states instead of declining.

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    South Korean politicians didn’t urge people to gather in groups of 100,000 to protest.  Democrats should be ashamed of themselves for leading black Americans into harms way like that.   There should be an investigation to see if Democrats encouraged the large gatherings in an attempt to kill minorities.

    Social injustice protests are fueled by police violence and racial inequality.  Investigation reveals black lives matter is an ideology and not an organization.  No evidence nationwide protests are organized by democrats.  Besides,  protests aren't a major cause of coronavirus infection according to studies by Harvard, Rutger and Northeastern universities.  Low increase of covid cases in cities with high rates of protests.  Risk is reduced by outdoor ventilation, mask wearing and protesters walking.  Indoor proximity of people is riskier than outdoor activity.  A mobile crowd is safer than a stationary one.  However Trump's push to reopen economy prematurely has lead to far more infections.  His rallies add to virus outbreaks.  Schools and stores report more infections.  Now covid cases are increasing in most states instead of declining.

     
     
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    What racial inequality? Please be specific. 

    Nearly every Democrat has shown support for BLM And nearly every BLM “protestor” is a Democrat. 

    Show me a study that concludes that gathering in groups of 100,000 at the height of a pandemic is a good idea. 

    Low increase of covid cases in cities with high rates of protests. That’s false. 

    Do you have a source that shows how a mobile crowd is safer than a stationary one? 

    The economy never should have been closed. NY and NJ imposed strict shutdowns and they were by far the worst performing states in the country. 

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    What racial inequality? Please be specific. 

    Nearly every Democrat has shown support for BLM And nearly every BLM “protestor” is a Democrat. 

    Show me a study that concludes that gathering in groups of 100,000 at the height of a pandemic is a good idea. 

    Low increase of covid cases in cities with high rates of protests. That’s false. 

    Do you have a source that shows how a mobile crowd is safer than a stationary one? 

    The economy never should have been closed. NY and NJ imposed strict shutdowns and they were by far the worst performing states in the country. 

    sleep2

     

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