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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2024 - 11:15 AM ET #76

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    There are not 20 million missing votes.

    What the eff are you looney conspiracists talking about? You realize five states are still counting ballots and four remaining uncalled with AZ, Nevada, Alaska, Maine, and California? 

     

    Check out UF election lab. 

    In 2020, 66.38 percent of the eligible voting population turned out, with 159,738,337 ballots counted across the country.

    As of 2 p.m. ET Wednesday, fewer people had turned out than four years ago—64.54 percent of the 245,741,673 eligible had cast ballots for a total of 158,549,000.

    When all said and down total voter turnout will be down by about a little over a million votes because many voters did not like either choice and sat out from 2020. Do not let math and data get in the way of your tired, unsubstantiated voter fraud crying from 2020 claim though. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    There are not 20 million missing votes.

    What the eff are you looney conspiracists talking about? You realize five states are still counting ballots and four remaining uncalled with AZ, Nevada, Alaska, Maine, and California? 

     

    Check out UF election lab. 

    In 2020, 66.38 percent of the eligible voting population turned out, with 159,738,337 ballots counted across the country.

    As of 2 p.m. ET Wednesday, fewer people had turned out than four years ago—64.54 percent of the 245,741,673 eligible had cast ballots for a total of 158,549,000.

    When all said and down total voter turnout will be down by about a little over a million votes because many voters did not like either choice and sat out from 2020. Do not let math and data get in the way of your tired, unsubstantiated voter fraud crying from 2020 claim though. 

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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2024 - 11:25 AM ET #77

    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: There are not 20 million missing votes. What the eff are you looney conspiracists talking about? You realize five states are still counting ballots and four remaining uncalled with AZ, Nevada, Alaska, Maine, and California?  Check out UF election lab.  In 2020, 66.38 percent of the eligible voting population turned out, with 159,738,337 ballots counted across the country. As of 2 p.m. ET Wednesday, fewer people had turned out than four years ago—64.54 percent of the 245,741,673 eligible had cast ballots for a total of 158,549,000. When all said and down total voter turnout will be down by about a little over a million votes because many voters did not like either choice and sat out from 2020. Do not let math and data get in the way of your tired, unsubstantiated voter fraud crying from 2020 claim though.  If there was election fraud in 2020, it surely occurred this week too right? Riiiiiight.......late counting will produce another 15 million votes

    Yes. Math is math buddy that is how it works. an_lightYou realize how many votes are left to count on the West Coast?  4-5 million votes in California alone are still left to count. Over a dozen states nationwide are still counting. I just gave you the total number of ballots cast for the entire election comparisons and you are still denying it. an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh. You people seriously create your own alternate realities. an_roll_laughStraight denial, its sad and comical at the same time. 

    2020: 159,738,337

    2024: 158,549,000.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: There are not 20 million missing votes. What the eff are you looney conspiracists talking about? You realize five states are still counting ballots and four remaining uncalled with AZ, Nevada, Alaska, Maine, and California?  Check out UF election lab.  In 2020, 66.38 percent of the eligible voting population turned out, with 159,738,337 ballots counted across the country. As of 2 p.m. ET Wednesday, fewer people had turned out than four years ago—64.54 percent of the 245,741,673 eligible had cast ballots for a total of 158,549,000. When all said and down total voter turnout will be down by about a little over a million votes because many voters did not like either choice and sat out from 2020. Do not let math and data get in the way of your tired, unsubstantiated voter fraud crying from 2020 claim though.  If there was election fraud in 2020, it surely occurred this week too right? Riiiiiight.......late counting will produce another 15 million votes

    Yes. Math is math buddy that is how it works. an_lightYou realize how many votes are left to count on the West Coast?  4-5 million votes in California alone are still left to count. Over a dozen states nationwide are still counting. I just gave you the total number of ballots cast for the entire election comparisons and you are still denying it. an_roll_laughan_roll_laugh. You people seriously create your own alternate realities. an_roll_laughStraight denial, its sad and comical at the same time. 

    2020: 159,738,337

    2024: 158,549,000.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2024 - 11:27 AM ET #78

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     I havent been replying to these victory lap threads because there is no great purpose in doing so. 

     

    As clearly stated in my opening paragraph, this is not a thread to gloat in.  It is to examine the fascinating reality of how this election was won and how Trump took the popular vote, something only done twice by GOP in last 30 years.  I've previously discussed this dynamic in other elections years.  Trumps seemingly impossible win in 2016 reminded me of 2008 Obama, in that he got a large portion of the population out to vote which had previously not voted or not voted in many election cycles.  Back in 2016 I never thought Trump had a chance, obviously much different this time around but "how did he do it".  Well the snapshot of it was he pulled a bit of what he did in 2016 grabbing new voters and voters who may have sat out 2020.  Then he took Blue votes away, whether by making them Red or by making those Blue voters not vote.  Some people thought women, specifically those with abortion atop their list, would sway this election for Kamala.  Very wrong.  

    The Blue wall was only won collectively by 1.1%, a total close to 150,000 voters.  That was combined for all 3 States.  You don't get much closer than that.  

    Young Male voters (18-29) came out and made a difference.  

    Gen X voters, us cool kids that grew up in the 80s and 90s, made a difference.  

    It was the Dems though that made the biggest difference.  As shown in previous post, the pts gained by Trump / lost by the Blue were staggering.  Look at these big Blue States:

    * In NJ, Trump lost by 16 points in 2020. He lost by 5 in 2024.

    * In CA, Trump lost by 29 points in 2020. He lost by 17 points in 2024.

    * In NY, Trump lost by 23 points in 2020. He lost by 12 in 2024.

    * In IL, Trump lost by 17 in 2020. He lost by 8 in 2024.

    The people; Red, Blue and Independent were heard.  Loud and clear.  It isn't about the "TNC" it is about the populous and the populous has spoken.  

    And to the point about money and media spend.  Check your data points.  They tell a different story.  The DNC spent 50% MORE money campaigning (with a $20mm deficit to show).  Forbes shows Kamala had 83 BILLIONAIRES backing versus 50 or so for Trump.  

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     I havent been replying to these victory lap threads because there is no great purpose in doing so. 

     

    As clearly stated in my opening paragraph, this is not a thread to gloat in.  It is to examine the fascinating reality of how this election was won and how Trump took the popular vote, something only done twice by GOP in last 30 years.  I've previously discussed this dynamic in other elections years.  Trumps seemingly impossible win in 2016 reminded me of 2008 Obama, in that he got a large portion of the population out to vote which had previously not voted or not voted in many election cycles.  Back in 2016 I never thought Trump had a chance, obviously much different this time around but "how did he do it".  Well the snapshot of it was he pulled a bit of what he did in 2016 grabbing new voters and voters who may have sat out 2020.  Then he took Blue votes away, whether by making them Red or by making those Blue voters not vote.  Some people thought women, specifically those with abortion atop their list, would sway this election for Kamala.  Very wrong.  

    The Blue wall was only won collectively by 1.1%, a total close to 150,000 voters.  That was combined for all 3 States.  You don't get much closer than that.  

    Young Male voters (18-29) came out and made a difference.  

    Gen X voters, us cool kids that grew up in the 80s and 90s, made a difference.  

    It was the Dems though that made the biggest difference.  As shown in previous post, the pts gained by Trump / lost by the Blue were staggering.  Look at these big Blue States:

    * In NJ, Trump lost by 16 points in 2020. He lost by 5 in 2024.

    * In CA, Trump lost by 29 points in 2020. He lost by 17 points in 2024.

    * In NY, Trump lost by 23 points in 2020. He lost by 12 in 2024.

    * In IL, Trump lost by 17 in 2020. He lost by 8 in 2024.

    The people; Red, Blue and Independent were heard.  Loud and clear.  It isn't about the "TNC" it is about the populous and the populous has spoken.  

    And to the point about money and media spend.  Check your data points.  They tell a different story.  The DNC spent 50% MORE money campaigning (with a $20mm deficit to show).  Forbes shows Kamala had 83 BILLIONAIRES backing versus 50 or so for Trump.  

     
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     Intention and results are two different things.

    I dont buy your thesis but of course you are entitled to think whatever makes you happy. I think the vote gap (still counting though) is more due to a less strong reaction against the other side...so last election people were fed up with Trump and his nonsense, the same way they will be during mid term and the next election. I dont buy the steal fake conspiracy theories, just not my cup of tea personally. I think there was less sense of urgency this election against the TNC even though he to me is deserving of even more with his mental decline and disgusting mouth which seems to get worse as days go forward...but to me that is the vote differential and again we are still seeing counts continue it is not fully finished yet.

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     Intention and results are two different things.

    I dont buy your thesis but of course you are entitled to think whatever makes you happy. I think the vote gap (still counting though) is more due to a less strong reaction against the other side...so last election people were fed up with Trump and his nonsense, the same way they will be during mid term and the next election. I dont buy the steal fake conspiracy theories, just not my cup of tea personally. I think there was less sense of urgency this election against the TNC even though he to me is deserving of even more with his mental decline and disgusting mouth which seems to get worse as days go forward...but to me that is the vote differential and again we are still seeing counts continue it is not fully finished yet.

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2024 - 11:56 AM ET #80

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     Might want to take a math class

     

    2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill

     

    How do you get 158 mill out of that?

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     Might want to take a math class

     

    2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill

     

    How do you get 158 mill out of that?

     
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     I dont buy your thesis but of course you are entitled to think whatever makes you happy. 

     

    What is this "thesis" you speak of ?  Just want to make sure I am clear on what you are not "buying".  

    So you are saying the election data is wrong ??  There wasn't a large sway of the Blue voting population that swung for Trump ??  Did you miss all those numbers showing Blue States from 2020 versus 2024 making 8, 9, 10 point gains for Trump ??  

    Go study the election data from all the demographics and you will see plain as day.  I'm not sure there is a "thesis" I am stating.  I am merely showing demographics of this election.  The data is not really open to interpretation, it is math, you can't argue with math.  

    If you mean something different perhaps you could explain better.  Thanks 

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     I dont buy your thesis but of course you are entitled to think whatever makes you happy. 

     

    What is this "thesis" you speak of ?  Just want to make sure I am clear on what you are not "buying".  

    So you are saying the election data is wrong ??  There wasn't a large sway of the Blue voting population that swung for Trump ??  Did you miss all those numbers showing Blue States from 2020 versus 2024 making 8, 9, 10 point gains for Trump ??  

    Go study the election data from all the demographics and you will see plain as day.  I'm not sure there is a "thesis" I am stating.  I am merely showing demographics of this election.  The data is not really open to interpretation, it is math, you can't argue with math.  

    If you mean something different perhaps you could explain better.  Thanks 

     
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    More interesting data points:

    NYC Metro.  The Bluest of the Blue....

    NYC County / Manhattan - shifted 9 points right

    Kings County / Brooklyn - 12 points right

    Queens - 21 points right

    Bronx - 22 points right 

    In Florida

    Orange Co / Orlando - 10 points right

    Miami Dade - 19 points right

    In Texas

    Counties of Houston and San Antonio - 8 points

    Dallas - 11 points 

    In and around the Blue wall...

    Chicago - 11 points to the right

    Detroit - 9 to right

    Philly - 5 to right 

     

    Tell me again how this was "only TNC voters" that caused this massive upset in the popular vote..... 

     

     

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    More interesting data points:

    NYC Metro.  The Bluest of the Blue....

    NYC County / Manhattan - shifted 9 points right

    Kings County / Brooklyn - 12 points right

    Queens - 21 points right

    Bronx - 22 points right 

    In Florida

    Orange Co / Orlando - 10 points right

    Miami Dade - 19 points right

    In Texas

    Counties of Houston and San Antonio - 8 points

    Dallas - 11 points 

    In and around the Blue wall...

    Chicago - 11 points to the right

    Detroit - 9 to right

    Philly - 5 to right 

     

    Tell me again how this was "only TNC voters" that caused this massive upset in the popular vote..... 

     

     

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere:

    @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that?

    Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election? an_roll_laugh You don't know how this works? an_roll_laugh

    This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. 

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere:

    @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that?

    Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election? an_roll_laugh You don't know how this works? an_roll_laugh

    This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. 

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username.

    LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username.

    LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2024 - 12:56 PM ET #85

    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce

    Yes. You are truly clueless. Also it's about 16 million that need to be counted nationwide still. Do you understand that states already have the ballots that need to be counted? an_roll_laughMeaning officials know how many outstanding ballots are remaining. You are someone that supports abolishing the Department of Education too I assume? Figures. I imagine you probably did not even vote. an_roll_laugh Unsurprising that people pushing these stupid claims do not even understand how votes are cast, collected, or counted. Circle back in 4-5 days when all of the millions of outstanding votes are received and check the number. an_light

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce

    Yes. You are truly clueless. Also it's about 16 million that need to be counted nationwide still. Do you understand that states already have the ballots that need to be counted? an_roll_laughMeaning officials know how many outstanding ballots are remaining. You are someone that supports abolishing the Department of Education too I assume? Figures. I imagine you probably did not even vote. an_roll_laugh Unsurprising that people pushing these stupid claims do not even understand how votes are cast, collected, or counted. Circle back in 4-5 days when all of the millions of outstanding votes are received and check the number. an_light

     
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    Posted: Nov. 7, 2024 - 1:00 PM ET #86

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce Yes. You are truly clueless. Also it's about 16 million that need to be counted nationwide still. Do you understand that states already have the ballots that need to be counted? Meaning officials know how many outstanding ballots are remaining. You are someone that supports abolishing the Department of Education too I assume? Figures. I imagine you probably did not even vote.  Unsurprising that people pushing these stupid claims do not even understand how votes are cast, collected, or counted. Circle back in 4-5 days when all of the millions of outstanding votes are received and check the number.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81:

    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce Yes. You are truly clueless. Also it's about 16 million that need to be counted nationwide still. Do you understand that states already have the ballots that need to be counted? Meaning officials know how many outstanding ballots are remaining. You are someone that supports abolishing the Department of Education too I assume? Figures. I imagine you probably did not even vote.  Unsurprising that people pushing these stupid claims do not even understand how votes are cast, collected, or counted. Circle back in 4-5 days when all of the millions of outstanding votes are received and check the number.

    Apology accepted

     
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     I addressed that in the bulk of my first message, my second was regarding vote totals. The reason for the swing is the same reason for the previous swing and again in my original message I laid out my view in great detail as to why.

    People actually connect a party or person with all the ills and woes in society, what an obtuse, uneducated lazy approach. I am not saying YOU I am saying the general public. These TNC cheerleaders will find out that correlation is not causation (maybe they wont as they are mentally unable) when life goes on and problems still exist.

    People who have fall back blame oriented toxic validation for their voting decisions are rarely ever going to learn. The entire reason why a schlep like Biden got elected is the same reason why the ultra-schlep Trump did twice and why a goofy Bush Lite did two times, people are following the media direction and are not actually educating themselves to reality and the same is true right here in this very forum.

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     I addressed that in the bulk of my first message, my second was regarding vote totals. The reason for the swing is the same reason for the previous swing and again in my original message I laid out my view in great detail as to why.

    People actually connect a party or person with all the ills and woes in society, what an obtuse, uneducated lazy approach. I am not saying YOU I am saying the general public. These TNC cheerleaders will find out that correlation is not causation (maybe they wont as they are mentally unable) when life goes on and problems still exist.

    People who have fall back blame oriented toxic validation for their voting decisions are rarely ever going to learn. The entire reason why a schlep like Biden got elected is the same reason why the ultra-schlep Trump did twice and why a goofy Bush Lite did two times, people are following the media direction and are not actually educating themselves to reality and the same is true right here in this very forum.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere:

    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce Yes. You are truly clueless. Also it's about 16 million that need to be counted nationwide still. Do you understand that states already have the ballots that need to be counted? Meaning officials know how many outstanding ballots are remaining. You are someone that supports abolishing the Department of Education too I assume? Figures. I imagine you probably did not even vote.  Unsurprising that people pushing these stupid claims do not even understand how votes are cast, collected, or counted. Circle back in 4-5 days when all of the millions of outstanding votes are received and check the number. Apology accepted

    Stay blind. At least cast a vote before you comment on elections. an_roll_laugh

    You are living proof of the dangers of a poor education and access to social media. peace_5

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    Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: Quote Originally Posted by DeezyAZ81: Quote Originally Posted by BigfootIsThere: @DeezyAZ81    Might want to take a math class   2024:   Trump 74.4 mill......Harris 68 mill   How do you get 158 mill out of that? Can you read? The ballots are still being counted across about a dozen states (over 16 million outstanding ballots left to be counted). For example, only 60% of California votes have been counted and processed. Another 4.5-5 million votes in California alone will be added to that total. Add in all the other half counted states on the West Coast. Midwest, and East Coast and you will end up at over 158,500,000 million when tallied up in 4-5 days. Is this seriously your first election?  You don't know how this works?  This is clearly over your head. Not surprising considering your username. LMAO and you think 18 million more will be counted?  You're fucked up, lay off that hippie lettuce Yes. You are truly clueless. Also it's about 16 million that need to be counted nationwide still. Do you understand that states already have the ballots that need to be counted? Meaning officials know how many outstanding ballots are remaining. You are someone that supports abolishing the Department of Education too I assume? Figures. I imagine you probably did not even vote.  Unsurprising that people pushing these stupid claims do not even understand how votes are cast, collected, or counted. Circle back in 4-5 days when all of the millions of outstanding votes are received and check the number. Apology accepted

    Stay blind. At least cast a vote before you comment on elections. an_roll_laugh

    You are living proof of the dangers of a poor education and access to social media. peace_5

     
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     That's fair if they havn't put all the numbers in yet.   Sad that some states are so inept that they can't get them in yet.

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     That's fair if they havn't put all the numbers in yet.   Sad that some states are so inept that they can't get them in yet.

     
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     I live in one of those inept states and you are off on the reason why. Down here the anger and fear from the TNC extremist forced some really wonky changes on the vote count after the last election. I place the change and slow roll issues squarely on the TNC and the aggressive litigious brutal deluge after Trump lost last time.

    You would see the same garbage if he had lost this time too. I was saying to the wife that one of the small victories about Trump winning is the threats and attacks and steal nonsense does not happen, no vote counting worker is going to fear for their lives and safety because the side that did this for FOUR YEARS got their way and now in Maricopa County the locations where they count votes looks like a guarded prison. I consider all of this slow play squarely on the fear and angst created by the TNC.

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     I live in one of those inept states and you are off on the reason why. Down here the anger and fear from the TNC extremist forced some really wonky changes on the vote count after the last election. I place the change and slow roll issues squarely on the TNC and the aggressive litigious brutal deluge after Trump lost last time.

    You would see the same garbage if he had lost this time too. I was saying to the wife that one of the small victories about Trump winning is the threats and attacks and steal nonsense does not happen, no vote counting worker is going to fear for their lives and safety because the side that did this for FOUR YEARS got their way and now in Maricopa County the locations where they count votes looks like a guarded prison. I consider all of this slow play squarely on the fear and angst created by the TNC.

     
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    For example, the previous Maricopa County Recorder who IS a Republican gave several interviews  where after he did not bow down to the TNC and play the Kari Lake steal narrative he had to face numerous death threats and legal harrangings, four years of attacks from the TNC clan down here and their idiotic leadership. All he did was his job and validate the count last time and the guy was zapped in the primaries this time so he lost his job had to face the maniacal TNC zealots and numerous death threats on him and his family. 

    It is quite clear the side that is causing havoc and fear and if you notice that narrative seems absent this time, I guess that is because THIS election was not fake, not stolen and no voter workers will be targeted by wackos like Rudy, thankfully.

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    For example, the previous Maricopa County Recorder who IS a Republican gave several interviews  where after he did not bow down to the TNC and play the Kari Lake steal narrative he had to face numerous death threats and legal harrangings, four years of attacks from the TNC clan down here and their idiotic leadership. All he did was his job and validate the count last time and the guy was zapped in the primaries this time so he lost his job had to face the maniacal TNC zealots and numerous death threats on him and his family. 

    It is quite clear the side that is causing havoc and fear and if you notice that narrative seems absent this time, I guess that is because THIS election was not fake, not stolen and no voter workers will be targeted by wackos like Rudy, thankfully.

     
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    Popular vote as of 11/7 (rough estimates for 2024 because it seems like left leaning nEwS sites don't want to update numbers. Also found it odd that it was difficult to find votes on some pages like Yahoo but in 2020 it was blasted everywhere, all day and days before).  

     

    2024 Trump ~72.7Million

    2020 Trump ~74.2Million

    difference of -1.5million (seems reasonable, with more votes still needing to be counted. Should come out about the same)

     

    2024 Harris ~68.1million 

    2020 Biden ~81.3million an_roll_laughan_beatup

    Difference of -13.1 million (seems sus) I Guess Deezy thinks the dems are going to pull in another 10 million or so in the next few days lie

     

    Where are the blue votes??? Still being counted an_beatup

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    Popular vote as of 11/7 (rough estimates for 2024 because it seems like left leaning nEwS sites don't want to update numbers. Also found it odd that it was difficult to find votes on some pages like Yahoo but in 2020 it was blasted everywhere, all day and days before).  

     

    2024 Trump ~72.7Million

    2020 Trump ~74.2Million

    difference of -1.5million (seems reasonable, with more votes still needing to be counted. Should come out about the same)

     

    2024 Harris ~68.1million 

    2020 Biden ~81.3million an_roll_laughan_beatup

    Difference of -13.1 million (seems sus) I Guess Deezy thinks the dems are going to pull in another 10 million or so in the next few days lie

     

    Where are the blue votes??? Still being counted an_beatup

     
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     You are a perfect example of the pretentious amd condescending tone of today's democratic party. How they have lost touch with many of their constituents, and are viewed ultimately as a judgemental party of elitist, right or wrong. Couple this with the reactionary nature of elections, and the first opportunity voters who, being 18-19 and on lockdown, are now 22-23 and working or attending in-person schooling, you see a downshift from the 2020 ballot counts. It's no shocker that the democrats have lost ground with women, working class voters, latinos (traditionally red anyway) and African Americans. People are tired of being told that "we" (democratic elitist), know what's best for you. You can't be trusted to make your own decision.

    Just look at your above post. You can't fathom that a person who chooses to vote republican simply has more confidence in the path forward provided by Donald Trump than that of Kamala Harris. For weeks, months, you have been judgemental of Republican voters. Saying that they have been grifted, that they are misinformed, that they think a change in administration miraculously changes the human condition. You have stated that the border crisis is exagerated/fabricated. That's unequivocally false. You have stated that the office of the president isn't the end all be all, and doesn't magically change things. Now is true, to an extent. This country is run by oligarchs, by the intelligence community, by foreighn powers (Saudis, etc). However, president matters. And if it didn't, then why back Kamala Harris? Why back Joe Biden? Simply because you dislike Trump as a person? Which brings me to my next point, democrats claim a republican voter is misinformed when said voter makes his decision based on policy but that sane democrat makes his decision bases on personal disdain of an individual.

    On the African American male voter. Democrats, for too long, have treated black voters, specifically black men, as if we can't think for ourselves. As if we have to be taken by the hand and led. As late as 2020, Biden said, "If you're confused on who to vote for, you ain't black." He doesn't even respect us enough to use the word aren't. In this election cycle, Obama attempted to admonish black male voters for hesitancy in suporting Harris. It backfired. Black males are the only group who are targeted in this way. You never here latinos being told, "You're a sell out, a tom, if you vote red." You don't see members of the LGBTQ... community being told they'll lose their card if they vote red. African Americans are waking up to the fact that what's good for us is what's good for any American. We are Americans first. If you believe Democrats provide the best path forward, vote for them based on that. Not because you are obligated.

    Truth be told, I am liberal with most things. I disagree with the party on most facets of economic policy. While I am a fiscal conservative, I believe spending must be managed, I am opposed to tax cuts for the rich, and fir corporations. I am strongly opposed to trickle down economic plans. However, the powers that be that influence economic policy have both parties in their pockets. And regardless of who's in office, what will be will be. As I have said many times. I support the strictest of border policies. You have tried to gaslight people who vote on border policy, saying that administration doesn't matter. That no president solves the border. That is false, and the numbers prove it. Obama solved the border. Crossings were way down. As a matter of fact, when Trump's border policies were criticized, conservatives pointed to the Obama era policies of seperating familes and caging detainees. Remember the cages? I'm very pro-cage. I don't believe foreign invaders should be afforded constitutional rights. They aren't asylum seekers. They're interlopers.

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     You are a perfect example of the pretentious amd condescending tone of today's democratic party. How they have lost touch with many of their constituents, and are viewed ultimately as a judgemental party of elitist, right or wrong. Couple this with the reactionary nature of elections, and the first opportunity voters who, being 18-19 and on lockdown, are now 22-23 and working or attending in-person schooling, you see a downshift from the 2020 ballot counts. It's no shocker that the democrats have lost ground with women, working class voters, latinos (traditionally red anyway) and African Americans. People are tired of being told that "we" (democratic elitist), know what's best for you. You can't be trusted to make your own decision.

    Just look at your above post. You can't fathom that a person who chooses to vote republican simply has more confidence in the path forward provided by Donald Trump than that of Kamala Harris. For weeks, months, you have been judgemental of Republican voters. Saying that they have been grifted, that they are misinformed, that they think a change in administration miraculously changes the human condition. You have stated that the border crisis is exagerated/fabricated. That's unequivocally false. You have stated that the office of the president isn't the end all be all, and doesn't magically change things. Now is true, to an extent. This country is run by oligarchs, by the intelligence community, by foreighn powers (Saudis, etc). However, president matters. And if it didn't, then why back Kamala Harris? Why back Joe Biden? Simply because you dislike Trump as a person? Which brings me to my next point, democrats claim a republican voter is misinformed when said voter makes his decision based on policy but that sane democrat makes his decision bases on personal disdain of an individual.

    On the African American male voter. Democrats, for too long, have treated black voters, specifically black men, as if we can't think for ourselves. As if we have to be taken by the hand and led. As late as 2020, Biden said, "If you're confused on who to vote for, you ain't black." He doesn't even respect us enough to use the word aren't. In this election cycle, Obama attempted to admonish black male voters for hesitancy in suporting Harris. It backfired. Black males are the only group who are targeted in this way. You never here latinos being told, "You're a sell out, a tom, if you vote red." You don't see members of the LGBTQ... community being told they'll lose their card if they vote red. African Americans are waking up to the fact that what's good for us is what's good for any American. We are Americans first. If you believe Democrats provide the best path forward, vote for them based on that. Not because you are obligated.

    Truth be told, I am liberal with most things. I disagree with the party on most facets of economic policy. While I am a fiscal conservative, I believe spending must be managed, I am opposed to tax cuts for the rich, and fir corporations. I am strongly opposed to trickle down economic plans. However, the powers that be that influence economic policy have both parties in their pockets. And regardless of who's in office, what will be will be. As I have said many times. I support the strictest of border policies. You have tried to gaslight people who vote on border policy, saying that administration doesn't matter. That no president solves the border. That is false, and the numbers prove it. Obama solved the border. Crossings were way down. As a matter of fact, when Trump's border policies were criticized, conservatives pointed to the Obama era policies of seperating familes and caging detainees. Remember the cages? I'm very pro-cage. I don't believe foreign invaders should be afforded constitutional rights. They aren't asylum seekers. They're interlopers.

     
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    I was going to respond but then I read Stu's post.... whatever I was going to say, what he said was much better, was more impactful and came with a higher authority.  

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    I was going to respond but then I read Stu's post.... whatever I was going to say, what he said was much better, was more impactful and came with a higher authority.  

    peace_5

     

     
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     I am also against foreign aid in the form of military spending. When did democrats become such warhawks? When did you all start supporting the Cheney family? You do realize these wars only exist to pump money in Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed, etc? It's a cash grab. We pushed Ukrainians into a proxy war thst they can't win, simply to enrich oligarchs. And we sell this narrative to the American people. "They're fighting evil! They've got the m on the ropes! Many decisive victories. They just need more money? Why aren't we attempting to broker peace? It's because Putin is a monster, right? Sure, that's it. We pushed Ukraine towards this war. If Russia or China pulled they same mess in Mexico that we were pulling with Ukraine, I guarantee we would go into Mexico. In the early days of the Russo-Ukrainian invasion, we were sold a narrative that we had to protect Ukraine because it's Europes bread basket. As if half our country isn't a bread basket. As if global wheat price fluctuations warrant funding a war. Once the onsided onslaught began, we sold the narrative of fighting the invasion of evil. The strategic positioning of Ukraine/Crimea not withstanding, and alliance with them does nothing for us. What it does is breaks the uneasy peace we had with one of our biggest rivals, a nuclear power. A peace established by Trump. I would rather us have uneasy peace with a nuclear power that spending billions, trillions on a proxy war to "protect Europe's bread basket."

    Americans are tired of being looked down upon and told we don't know any better. It's our prerogative to be against foreign aid. It's our prerogative to be against open borders. The border crisis is a real thing. It was exacerbated by Biden. The numbers support this. His policy record supports this. It's all irrefutable public record. People aren't racist, aren't sexist because we have disdain for Kamala Harris. I was a longtime fan of Kamala Harris. I'm from the Bay Area and had the pleasure of her acquaintance multiple times. Something has changed in her and she has lost my confidence. My wife is a hardcore liberal. She casts symbolic votes for Jill Stein. You see, the Democratic party is even losing the confidence of a California born, ultra-liberal white woman. The poster child for the party has even lost faith.

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     I am also against foreign aid in the form of military spending. When did democrats become such warhawks? When did you all start supporting the Cheney family? You do realize these wars only exist to pump money in Raytheon, Boeing, Lockheed, etc? It's a cash grab. We pushed Ukrainians into a proxy war thst they can't win, simply to enrich oligarchs. And we sell this narrative to the American people. "They're fighting evil! They've got the m on the ropes! Many decisive victories. They just need more money? Why aren't we attempting to broker peace? It's because Putin is a monster, right? Sure, that's it. We pushed Ukraine towards this war. If Russia or China pulled they same mess in Mexico that we were pulling with Ukraine, I guarantee we would go into Mexico. In the early days of the Russo-Ukrainian invasion, we were sold a narrative that we had to protect Ukraine because it's Europes bread basket. As if half our country isn't a bread basket. As if global wheat price fluctuations warrant funding a war. Once the onsided onslaught began, we sold the narrative of fighting the invasion of evil. The strategic positioning of Ukraine/Crimea not withstanding, and alliance with them does nothing for us. What it does is breaks the uneasy peace we had with one of our biggest rivals, a nuclear power. A peace established by Trump. I would rather us have uneasy peace with a nuclear power that spending billions, trillions on a proxy war to "protect Europe's bread basket."

    Americans are tired of being looked down upon and told we don't know any better. It's our prerogative to be against foreign aid. It's our prerogative to be against open borders. The border crisis is a real thing. It was exacerbated by Biden. The numbers support this. His policy record supports this. It's all irrefutable public record. People aren't racist, aren't sexist because we have disdain for Kamala Harris. I was a longtime fan of Kamala Harris. I'm from the Bay Area and had the pleasure of her acquaintance multiple times. Something has changed in her and she has lost my confidence. My wife is a hardcore liberal. She casts symbolic votes for Jill Stein. You see, the Democratic party is even losing the confidence of a California born, ultra-liberal white woman. The poster child for the party has even lost faith.

     
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     While I don't believe in a widespread voter conspiracy. I believe 2020 had record turnout because of covid, and first ever mail-in voting. However, the fact that democrats won't even entertain the notion just speaks to everything I speak of. A complete paradigm shift. The democrats used to be the ones to question the establishment. Now they apparently believe any government narrative without pause. The difference in turnout is alarming. I do believe there were many covid era young voters who weren't as interested in voting now that life has returned to normal but I can't say that would account for well over 10 million votes. I guess we will have to wait for final tallies. California is a vast state with a huge population so I guess we'll see. It definitely looks fishy though.

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     While I don't believe in a widespread voter conspiracy. I believe 2020 had record turnout because of covid, and first ever mail-in voting. However, the fact that democrats won't even entertain the notion just speaks to everything I speak of. A complete paradigm shift. The democrats used to be the ones to question the establishment. Now they apparently believe any government narrative without pause. The difference in turnout is alarming. I do believe there were many covid era young voters who weren't as interested in voting now that life has returned to normal but I can't say that would account for well over 10 million votes. I guess we will have to wait for final tallies. California is a vast state with a huge population so I guess we'll see. It definitely looks fishy though.

     
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     Great post..Ukraine...DJT knows how Corrupt they ARE..remember BURISMA lining Hunter's and the BIG Guys pockets ??? Don't think they're getting anymore financial aid..like you state Stu..lining those warhawk contractors pockets too.. frickin Liz Cheney , juz like Daddy ..IT'S OVER...

    POTUS will call Putin and TRY to get him to back off..same as Iran, hopefully, will cool it down also...WE NEED PEACE..let's see if it can be done an_angel

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     Great post..Ukraine...DJT knows how Corrupt they ARE..remember BURISMA lining Hunter's and the BIG Guys pockets ??? Don't think they're getting anymore financial aid..like you state Stu..lining those warhawk contractors pockets too.. frickin Liz Cheney , juz like Daddy ..IT'S OVER...

    POTUS will call Putin and TRY to get him to back off..same as Iran, hopefully, will cool it down also...WE NEED PEACE..let's see if it can be done an_angel

     
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     Not sure why you linked me or replied like you did it is as if you read nothing of what I say or that you are just like the average voter, you have a narrative and seek a media or social connection to validate your position. Most all of what you said has no grounds from anything I have said. I could retort all of your generalizations about me but then again you would read it maybe using 30-50% of your full abilities and take what you want from a reply and miss 90% of what I say because you are not listening.

    The only thing I will say is that based SOLELY on one portion of your reply (there are many but we will take one) that you associate ME with Harris as if the reason why I voted was due to party partisanship. Ive only stated my SOLE reason for a decision like ten times and it is the only thing Ive stated as a reason to vote...then you connect my disgust with Trump to a reason for voting, that is because you are not listening and have drawn conclusions without any truth because that is what you decided no matter what I say or do not say or say in the OPPOSITE of your analysis.

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     Not sure why you linked me or replied like you did it is as if you read nothing of what I say or that you are just like the average voter, you have a narrative and seek a media or social connection to validate your position. Most all of what you said has no grounds from anything I have said. I could retort all of your generalizations about me but then again you would read it maybe using 30-50% of your full abilities and take what you want from a reply and miss 90% of what I say because you are not listening.

    The only thing I will say is that based SOLELY on one portion of your reply (there are many but we will take one) that you associate ME with Harris as if the reason why I voted was due to party partisanship. Ive only stated my SOLE reason for a decision like ten times and it is the only thing Ive stated as a reason to vote...then you connect my disgust with Trump to a reason for voting, that is because you are not listening and have drawn conclusions without any truth because that is what you decided no matter what I say or do not say or say in the OPPOSITE of your analysis.

     
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    Quote Originally Posted by Crusher13:

    @StumpTownStu  Great post..Ukraine...DJT knows how Corrupt they ARE..remember BURISMA lining Hunter's and the BIG Guys pockets ??? Don't think they're getting anymore financial aid..like you state Stu..lining those warhawk contractors pockets too.. frickin Liz Cheney , juz like Daddy ..IT'S OVER... POTUS will call Putin and TRY to get him to back off..same as Iran, hopefully, will cool it down also...WE NEED PEACE..let's see if it can be done

    It's the lunacy of many in today's democratic party. They call us magas, and all sorts of foul labels if we simply support Trump over Biden, or Trump over Harris. These same people now support and defend the Cheney family via Liz simply because she breaks with Trump. No policy reason. You just have to not like Trump. I never thought i'd see the day when the democrats would support a Cheney.

    Trump: Cheney's a warhawk. Let's see if she'd be so gung ho to go to war if the barrels were pointed at her.

    Liberals: Trump said Liz Cheney should be in front of a firing squad. We told you he was threating his rivals.

    This is literally the narrative that was pushed going into the election. And then our own mod, WSC, has the audacity to say people are changing his words and Trump-splaining when it's them misrepresenting him from the very beginning. Stop the gaslighting. We have eys. We have ears. We know what we see and/or hear.

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    @StumpTownStu  Great post..Ukraine...DJT knows how Corrupt they ARE..remember BURISMA lining Hunter's and the BIG Guys pockets ??? Don't think they're getting anymore financial aid..like you state Stu..lining those warhawk contractors pockets too.. frickin Liz Cheney , juz like Daddy ..IT'S OVER... POTUS will call Putin and TRY to get him to back off..same as Iran, hopefully, will cool it down also...WE NEED PEACE..let's see if it can be done

    It's the lunacy of many in today's democratic party. They call us magas, and all sorts of foul labels if we simply support Trump over Biden, or Trump over Harris. These same people now support and defend the Cheney family via Liz simply because she breaks with Trump. No policy reason. You just have to not like Trump. I never thought i'd see the day when the democrats would support a Cheney.

    Trump: Cheney's a warhawk. Let's see if she'd be so gung ho to go to war if the barrels were pointed at her.

    Liberals: Trump said Liz Cheney should be in front of a firing squad. We told you he was threating his rivals.

    This is literally the narrative that was pushed going into the election. And then our own mod, WSC, has the audacity to say people are changing his words and Trump-splaining when it's them misrepresenting him from the very beginning. Stop the gaslighting. We have eys. We have ears. We know what we see and/or hear.

     
     
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    Quote Originally Posted by wallstreetcappers:

    @StumpTownStu  Not sure why you linked me or replied like you did it is as if you read nothing of what I say or that you are just like the average voter, you have a narrative and seek a media or social connection to validate your position. Most all of what you said has no grounds from anything I have said. I could retort all of your generalizations about me but then again you would read it maybe using 30-50% of your full abilities and take what you want from a reply and miss 90% of what I say because you are not listening. The only thing I will say is that based SOLELY on one portion of your reply (there are many but we will take one) that you associate ME with Harris as if the reason why I voted was due to party partisanship. Ive only stated my SOLE reason for a decision like ten times and it is the only thing Ive stated as a reason to vote...then you connect my disgust with Trump to a reason for voting, that is because you are not listening and have drawn conclusions without any truth because that is what you decided no matter what I say or do not say or say in the OPPOSITE of your analysis.

    Tell us/me an 11th time. I feel like you have made it pretty clear through your positions, and certainly even your own words, that your reasoning for voting is disdain for Trump. If this is a misrepresentation then i'm sorry, and please enlighten. If it's not party allegiance, and it's not to be counter Trump, why did you vote?

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    @StumpTownStu  Not sure why you linked me or replied like you did it is as if you read nothing of what I say or that you are just like the average voter, you have a narrative and seek a media or social connection to validate your position. Most all of what you said has no grounds from anything I have said. I could retort all of your generalizations about me but then again you would read it maybe using 30-50% of your full abilities and take what you want from a reply and miss 90% of what I say because you are not listening. The only thing I will say is that based SOLELY on one portion of your reply (there are many but we will take one) that you associate ME with Harris as if the reason why I voted was due to party partisanship. Ive only stated my SOLE reason for a decision like ten times and it is the only thing Ive stated as a reason to vote...then you connect my disgust with Trump to a reason for voting, that is because you are not listening and have drawn conclusions without any truth because that is what you decided no matter what I say or do not say or say in the OPPOSITE of your analysis.

    Tell us/me an 11th time. I feel like you have made it pretty clear through your positions, and certainly even your own words, that your reasoning for voting is disdain for Trump. If this is a misrepresentation then i'm sorry, and please enlighten. If it's not party allegiance, and it's not to be counter Trump, why did you vote?

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