@KellyM_1964
Quote Originally Posted by fubah2: At least 3 people killed and 2 officers wounded in a shooting in Farmington, New Mexico, police say doesnt even merit a response anymore since it happens so often
Unless it's a white male, right?
@KellyM_1964
Unless it's a white male, right?
@KellyM_1964
Unless it's a white male, right?
That's the problem with the MAGAs
That's the problem with the MAGAs
Three more mass shootings this week
Thanks republicans!
Three more mass shootings this week
Thanks republicans!
Someone said a shooting last night in KC. But I had not heard about it. Did not see on CNN or Yahoo then saw on FOX.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kansas-city-bar-shooting-leaves-3-dead-2-wounded-police
Then I saw this comment about possibly why that is:
"The ANTI GUNNERS only care when the shooter is a white male with an AR15. This MASS SHOOTING does not qualify. Expect no comments from BRANDON OR HARRIS. Black Lives Matter to them, only sometimes."
Kind of makes sense.
Someone said a shooting last night in KC. But I had not heard about it. Did not see on CNN or Yahoo then saw on FOX.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/kansas-city-bar-shooting-leaves-3-dead-2-wounded-police
Then I saw this comment about possibly why that is:
"The ANTI GUNNERS only care when the shooter is a white male with an AR15. This MASS SHOOTING does not qualify. Expect no comments from BRANDON OR HARRIS. Black Lives Matter to them, only sometimes."
Kind of makes sense.
Why must everything be race. I see local multiple shootings committed by both white and black people that don't make national news. I think the story that make the national news are the "stranger walks into X building and completely out of the blue starts shooting." There have been such cases involving black perpetrators that have made the news and you know this.
Why must everything be race. I see local multiple shootings committed by both white and black people that don't make national news. I think the story that make the national news are the "stranger walks into X building and completely out of the blue starts shooting." There have been such cases involving black perpetrators that have made the news and you know this.
Hell, a couple of the most recent high profile mass shootings were carried out by Mexicans but "Oh no, people only care when it's a white guy with an AR-15 style rifle."
Hell, a couple of the most recent high profile mass shootings were carried out by Mexicans but "Oh no, people only care when it's a white guy with an AR-15 style rifle."
@StumpTownStu
I think they are talking here, particularly, about the ones that do not make the news. Or at least are not front and center as much.
@StumpTownStu
I think they are talking here, particularly, about the ones that do not make the news. Or at least are not front and center as much.
Then there was the old Asian man at the community center. I think that was last year actually. The wanna be male but very much female school shooter. That was for sure this year. There have been a couple recent high profile incidents involving black shooters. There was the Walmart shooting, for example but yeah, let's lean into the "only concerned when it's a while male with an AR" narrative because why not? I mean, if there's one thing Americans are good at... We're good at a lot of things but one of those things, one that we can't be so proud of, is leaning hard into bullshit, unfounded narratives.
Then there was the old Asian man at the community center. I think that was last year actually. The wanna be male but very much female school shooter. That was for sure this year. There have been a couple recent high profile incidents involving black shooters. There was the Walmart shooting, for example but yeah, let's lean into the "only concerned when it's a while male with an AR" narrative because why not? I mean, if there's one thing Americans are good at... We're good at a lot of things but one of those things, one that we can't be so proud of, is leaning hard into bullshit, unfounded narratives.
I just named several that were front and center, 24/7 news cycle incidents. I didn't even dig deep. No google searches. These are all from memory and recent.
I just named several that were front and center, 24/7 news cycle incidents. I didn't even dig deep. No google searches. These are all from memory and recent.
I know the point you are trying to make. I even agree with it. You're just doing a piss poor job of it. A d frankly, you're better than that. The whole "media, politicians, the liberal members of this forum only care when it's a white guy with an AR" angle is pure bullshit. I haven't followed this threat that closely but correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't one of the more liberal posters keep a running tally of ALL mass shootings? And did I not just rattle off several high profile shooting that were huge stories that don't fit the "white guy with a rifle" mold?
I know the point you are trying to make. I even agree with it. You're just doing a piss poor job of it. A d frankly, you're better than that. The whole "media, politicians, the liberal members of this forum only care when it's a white guy with an AR" angle is pure bullshit. I haven't followed this threat that closely but correct me if I'm wrong, doesn't one of the more liberal posters keep a running tally of ALL mass shootings? And did I not just rattle off several high profile shooting that were huge stories that don't fit the "white guy with a rifle" mold?
This is the straight dope. There are several criteria that lead to a mass shooting becoming a national story.
1. Number of victims. We're there more than (7) shot and/or more than (4) killed?
2. Nature of victims. Were they kids? Were they old folks?
3. Nature/Intent/Heinousness of the shooting. Was it a school.shooting? Was it a church shooting? A hate crime? Did the perpetrator shoot up a theatre showing a family movie in Christmas day?
Race doesn't factor. Style of weapon doesn't factor. A "mass" shooting where two gang members are killed is not going to drive the national news cycle. A nut job shooting his entire family then turning the gun on himself is not going to drive the national news cycle. Killing a bunch of children who did nothing but show up to school is another beast entirely. Has nothing to do with the race if the shooter it the race if the victims or the weapon of choice.
This is the straight dope. There are several criteria that lead to a mass shooting becoming a national story.
1. Number of victims. We're there more than (7) shot and/or more than (4) killed?
2. Nature of victims. Were they kids? Were they old folks?
3. Nature/Intent/Heinousness of the shooting. Was it a school.shooting? Was it a church shooting? A hate crime? Did the perpetrator shoot up a theatre showing a family movie in Christmas day?
Race doesn't factor. Style of weapon doesn't factor. A "mass" shooting where two gang members are killed is not going to drive the national news cycle. A nut job shooting his entire family then turning the gun on himself is not going to drive the national news cycle. Killing a bunch of children who did nothing but show up to school is another beast entirely. Has nothing to do with the race if the shooter it the race if the victims or the weapon of choice.
@StumpTownStu
Yeah. I think that they have reclassified it over the years. I think it has to be 3, not including the shooter.
I am not making any point. I am just presenting what was done today and the comment.
I think the point the guy made is very valid. You will not hear from President Biden about this. You will not hear from Vice-President Harris about it. You will not hear from BLM about it.
I also think the guy made a very valid point about the Media not pushing this type of mass-shooting out front and center like they do when an ‘AR’ or ‘assault-style’ rifle is used.
If you do not understand his point, read through this thread some and you will see what the cheerleaders pounce on.
That is nowhere near as big an issue as the non-front and center stories. It is agenda-driven. No other way to look at it.
When you do not see these types of stories on the major media outlets when they happen, it is a sad statement on our society and out misunderstanding of the Leftist Media and their agenda.
It also ties in with the other thread about the Media controlling the folk’s and what they discuss. This is a prime example of that.
@StumpTownStu
Yeah. I think that they have reclassified it over the years. I think it has to be 3, not including the shooter.
I am not making any point. I am just presenting what was done today and the comment.
I think the point the guy made is very valid. You will not hear from President Biden about this. You will not hear from Vice-President Harris about it. You will not hear from BLM about it.
I also think the guy made a very valid point about the Media not pushing this type of mass-shooting out front and center like they do when an ‘AR’ or ‘assault-style’ rifle is used.
If you do not understand his point, read through this thread some and you will see what the cheerleaders pounce on.
That is nowhere near as big an issue as the non-front and center stories. It is agenda-driven. No other way to look at it.
When you do not see these types of stories on the major media outlets when they happen, it is a sad statement on our society and out misunderstanding of the Leftist Media and their agenda.
It also ties in with the other thread about the Media controlling the folk’s and what they discuss. This is a prime example of that.
Yessir. This is the thread. No it is NOT a tally of ALL mass shooting. Look for the mention of this one or any other like it here and compare them.
Yessir. This is the thread. No it is NOT a tally of ALL mass shooting. Look for the mention of this one or any other like it here and compare them.
@Raiders22
You tried to make a point. I blew it out of the water. You say that the media only pounces on cases whete it's a white male with an AR-15 style rifle. I listed several recent high profile cases that don't fit that narrative. You can't make a huge national story out of everyone of these killings. Frankly, there are too many. I have already listed several recent cases that made national headlines that don't fit your "white male with and AR" narrative. Would you like me to also list cases that involve white males that didn't make the headlines? I'll do it. Are we going to keep acting like it's simply the race of the victims/perpetrators? The media latches on to cases that are particularly noteworthy. Not just any shooting involving three or more people.
@Raiders22
You tried to make a point. I blew it out of the water. You say that the media only pounces on cases whete it's a white male with an AR-15 style rifle. I listed several recent high profile cases that don't fit that narrative. You can't make a huge national story out of everyone of these killings. Frankly, there are too many. I have already listed several recent cases that made national headlines that don't fit your "white male with and AR" narrative. Would you like me to also list cases that involve white males that didn't make the headlines? I'll do it. Are we going to keep acting like it's simply the race of the victims/perpetrators? The media latches on to cases that are particularly noteworthy. Not just any shooting involving three or more people.
@Raiders22
And as far as what "the cheerleaders" pounce on, I have no idea. The subject matter doesn't interest me enough to read through a 53 page thread. We're not talking about "the cheerleaders". We're talking about you. I'm addressing your words. Your point.
@Raiders22
And as far as what "the cheerleaders" pounce on, I have no idea. The subject matter doesn't interest me enough to read through a 53 page thread. We're not talking about "the cheerleaders". We're talking about you. I'm addressing your words. Your point.
I didn't say it; I quoted someone who made it.
You didn't blow it out of the water? You just remembered some. One was thought to be a white guy with an AR, another was assumed at first to be a white guy with an AR. They died off way quicker.
The guy's point still stands -- yes the Media and the Left pounce on a certain type way more and for a couple of the reasons I listed above.
It is not about what you think; it is about what it is. I am sorry that is how they classify mass shooting nowadays.
Yes, I would like to hear your list of white guys with ARs that did not make the news. Then compare it to the mass shootings every week that happen that do not make the continuous news cycle.
I do not even see this as open for debate. This is as clear cut-and-dried as you can get.
To me the guy was spot-on and his points are very valid and stand.
I didn't say it; I quoted someone who made it.
You didn't blow it out of the water? You just remembered some. One was thought to be a white guy with an AR, another was assumed at first to be a white guy with an AR. They died off way quicker.
The guy's point still stands -- yes the Media and the Left pounce on a certain type way more and for a couple of the reasons I listed above.
It is not about what you think; it is about what it is. I am sorry that is how they classify mass shooting nowadays.
Yes, I would like to hear your list of white guys with ARs that did not make the news. Then compare it to the mass shootings every week that happen that do not make the continuous news cycle.
I do not even see this as open for debate. This is as clear cut-and-dried as you can get.
To me the guy was spot-on and his points are very valid and stand.
The three shootings he's referring to don't involve a white guy with an AR. Yet here he is mentioning them. Is this dude one of the cheerleaders you were talking about. I'm not hip.to the nicknames you grown men make up for each other. You said they only bring up certain cases that fit an agenda. I proved this wrong without having to go back even one page. Meanwhile you're in here using a case that happened two months ago as a political football.
The three shootings he's referring to don't involve a white guy with an AR. Yet here he is mentioning them. Is this dude one of the cheerleaders you were talking about. I'm not hip.to the nicknames you grown men make up for each other. You said they only bring up certain cases that fit an agenda. I proved this wrong without having to go back even one page. Meanwhile you're in here using a case that happened two months ago as a political football.
You should research it and then you would know. It is quite evident, especially if you knew about the thread and keep up with the news in the USA at all.
I see it where I am and do not even have a TV. It is perpetuated around the world now about the USA.
With my background and demographics I know this to be very true and do not even need the data to show it. I assume you do as well with your background and demographic. As you said, you even agreed with the guy's point.
So, why try to tear his point down when you agreed with it. How about support the points he made. That is what is needed, NOT backing up an agenda.
You should research it and then you would know. It is quite evident, especially if you knew about the thread and keep up with the news in the USA at all.
I see it where I am and do not even have a TV. It is perpetuated around the world now about the USA.
With my background and demographics I know this to be very true and do not even need the data to show it. I assume you do as well with your background and demographic. As you said, you even agreed with the guy's point.
So, why try to tear his point down when you agreed with it. How about support the points he made. That is what is needed, NOT backing up an agenda.
@Raiders22
"They died off way quicker."
You're stumbling and reverting conjecture. They died off way quicker. Base on what metrics?
@Raiders22
"They died off way quicker."
You're stumbling and reverting conjecture. They died off way quicker. Base on what metrics?
Pay close attention: I am pretty sure the guy was not saying ONLY. It is implied that it is newsworthy no matter what. I think it is inferred from what he wrote that the ones he is talking about STAY in the news cycle for a longer period and are used by the Media for their agenda.
I am not asking for you to list rare exceptions. There will always be exceptions, but what is the most used route in these cases?
There is not really any disputing that. What needs to be asked, is why that is and why it continues.
Pay close attention: I am pretty sure the guy was not saying ONLY. It is implied that it is newsworthy no matter what. I think it is inferred from what he wrote that the ones he is talking about STAY in the news cycle for a longer period and are used by the Media for their agenda.
I am not asking for you to list rare exceptions. There will always be exceptions, but what is the most used route in these cases?
There is not really any disputing that. What needs to be asked, is why that is and why it continues.
No sir. Look it up. Easy enough for you to do. Even if they did not. They are exceptions because of the underlying issues I mentioned. Did they both have ARs? I do not recall?
But go to his point about the non-ARs and see were that leads you.
No sir. Look it up. Easy enough for you to do. Even if they did not. They are exceptions because of the underlying issues I mentioned. Did they both have ARs? I do not recall?
But go to his point about the non-ARs and see were that leads you.
@Raiders22
I'm sorry three people killed at a night club don't get the same media coverage as a bunch of kids killed in an elementary school. I'm sorry you're dense enough to attribute this to the race of the victims and/or perpetrators, and/or the style of weapons used. I'm sorry that after providing actual recent high profile cases that don't fit your narrative you simply say, "They died off way quicker." You know you're wrong. Your pride won't allow you to admit it.
@Raiders22
I'm sorry three people killed at a night club don't get the same media coverage as a bunch of kids killed in an elementary school. I'm sorry you're dense enough to attribute this to the race of the victims and/or perpetrators, and/or the style of weapons used. I'm sorry that after providing actual recent high profile cases that don't fit your narrative you simply say, "They died off way quicker." You know you're wrong. Your pride won't allow you to admit it.
I am sorry you do not get his point, when it is obviously valid.
What is the reason then?
I am sorry you do not get his point, when it is obviously valid.
What is the reason then?
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