Hours before the Maine mass shooting, the Senate approved an amendment that would scale back background check requirements for some veterans and service members with mental health issues. The amendment was authored by Republicans John Kennedy and Jerry Moran. What could possibly go wrong?
ya ! what could possibly go wrong ?
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Hours before the Maine mass shooting, the Senate approved an amendment that would scale back background check requirements for some veterans and service members with mental health issues. The amendment was authored by Republicans John Kennedy and Jerry Moran. What could possibly go wrong?
Just another mass failures with many agencies to blame. However the weapons of war should be permanently ban! Michael Johnson’s place is in a church where his heart belongs and not in Washington where fairy’s with lead use off a cliff!
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Just another mass failures with many agencies to blame. However the weapons of war should be permanently ban! Michael Johnson’s place is in a church where his heart belongs and not in Washington where fairy’s with lead use off a cliff!
Hours before the Maine mass shooting, the Senate approved an amendment that would scale back background check requirements for some veterans and service members with mental health issues. The amendment was authored by Republicans John Kennedy and Jerry Moran. What could possibly go wrong?
The dems hold the majority in the Senate. I guess they agreed.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Hours before the Maine mass shooting, the Senate approved an amendment that would scale back background check requirements for some veterans and service members with mental health issues. The amendment was authored by Republicans John Kennedy and Jerry Moran. What could possibly go wrong?
The dems hold the majority in the Senate. I guess they agreed.
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Jacksonville Sheriff T.K. Waters told a news conference that the attack that left two men and one woman dead was definitely “racially motivated." Huffpost reports that DeSantis was heckled at memorial for victims of the shooting. Critics blame him for making guns more available and divisive anti-woke politics against black history.
And you just ate that up.....
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by Zeus4par: Jacksonville Sheriff T.K. Waters told a news conference that the attack that left two men and one woman dead was definitely “racially motivated." Huffpost reports that DeSantis was heckled at memorial for victims of the shooting. Critics blame him for making guns more available and divisive anti-woke politics against black history.
[Quote: Originally Posted by knockonwood]Lock and load Rush :) you're in the safe space here at covers....They like democrats love to censor here :) Don't waste your time, read the beliefs they have...You noticed the guy chose a place with sign on the door saying no guns......Read the politics but watch what you say, the gate keeper will ban you...These people repeat everything they are told by their media and government......We're a free country for one reason don't catch the wokeness, these people even trust the UN, PRETTY Sad the site that's known as the safe space :) They trust what told, Lol.....I'm sorry these people make me laugh :) have a great weekend and maybe wall will tell you how Trump had nothing to do with gas at $1.69 a gallon and oil what $40 a barrel....Trump had nothing to do with that but he'll quote the experts......Welcome to the democratic world where they allow no one to run against Biden.....Oh the democrat's are doing a great job as the world turns, upside down and they want your guns......FBI probably told to let all nut cases out, dems care less about Americans....These clowns think they're taking our guns away, lol.....Oh and we're still waiting on Trump to be locked up :) DEMS those jaws have to be sore!!! Don't worry, your save space is safe at covers :) I'll be banned before yall wake up anyway......Take a Kid fishing and I said all i have to say....Now bring your flock together and repeat your line you've been taught :) KNOCK! ....[/Q
@knockonwood
Knock knock still believes Trump controls the world's oil supply and prices. I thought Wally and I schooled you on this already. Guess knock!
Please seek help on your fishing trip Knocky Knock.
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[Quote: Originally Posted by knockonwood]Lock and load Rush :) you're in the safe space here at covers....They like democrats love to censor here :) Don't waste your time, read the beliefs they have...You noticed the guy chose a place with sign on the door saying no guns......Read the politics but watch what you say, the gate keeper will ban you...These people repeat everything they are told by their media and government......We're a free country for one reason don't catch the wokeness, these people even trust the UN, PRETTY Sad the site that's known as the safe space :) They trust what told, Lol.....I'm sorry these people make me laugh :) have a great weekend and maybe wall will tell you how Trump had nothing to do with gas at $1.69 a gallon and oil what $40 a barrel....Trump had nothing to do with that but he'll quote the experts......Welcome to the democratic world where they allow no one to run against Biden.....Oh the democrat's are doing a great job as the world turns, upside down and they want your guns......FBI probably told to let all nut cases out, dems care less about Americans....These clowns think they're taking our guns away, lol.....Oh and we're still waiting on Trump to be locked up :) DEMS those jaws have to be sore!!! Don't worry, your save space is safe at covers :) I'll be banned before yall wake up anyway......Take a Kid fishing and I said all i have to say....Now bring your flock together and repeat your line you've been taught :) KNOCK! ....[/Q
@knockonwood
Knock knock still believes Trump controls the world's oil supply and prices. I thought Wally and I schooled you on this already. Guess knock!
Please seek help on your fishing trip Knocky Knock.
BigSeepDaddy :) Believe what you choose.....Trump less than $2 a gallon, $40 a barrel, Trump had all to do with it!!! Keep trusting the experts, I choose to think on my own........Lol, schooled :) I've seen what all here has been schooled on......By the way, I fish with live shrimp i catch for trout :) I doubt you can do that in the city :) get out and free your mind, climate change is great right now :) Take care as fresh trout is ready.....Life is great in the country with free thinkers...... I just feel for the washed, Knock!
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@DeezyAZ81
BigSeepDaddy :) Believe what you choose.....Trump less than $2 a gallon, $40 a barrel, Trump had all to do with it!!! Keep trusting the experts, I choose to think on my own........Lol, schooled :) I've seen what all here has been schooled on......By the way, I fish with live shrimp i catch for trout :) I doubt you can do that in the city :) get out and free your mind, climate change is great right now :) Take care as fresh trout is ready.....Life is great in the country with free thinkers...... I just feel for the washed, Knock!
A 22-year-old suspect has been arrested and charged with second degree murder in a shooting on a crowded street in Tampa, Florida, early Sunday morning, leaving two people dead and 16 others injured, authorities said.
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A 22-year-old suspect has been arrested and charged with second degree murder in a shooting on a crowded street in Tampa, Florida, early Sunday morning, leaving two people dead and 16 others injured, authorities said.
@DeezyAZ81 BigSeepDaddy :) Believe what you choose.....Trump less than $2 a gallon, $40 a barrel, Trump had all to do with it!!! Keep trusting the experts, I choose to think on my own........Lol, schooled :) I've seen what all here has been schooled on......By the way, I fish with live shrimp i catch for trout :) I doubt you can do that in the city :) get out and free your mind, climate change is great right now :) Take care as fresh trout is ready.....Life is great in the country with free thinkers...... I just feel for the washed, Knock!
You have the freedom to believe what you choose and still remain wrong on the issue and indeed you are wrong.
Ignorance is what you are comfortable with. Carry on.
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Quote Originally Posted by knockonwood:
@DeezyAZ81 BigSeepDaddy :) Believe what you choose.....Trump less than $2 a gallon, $40 a barrel, Trump had all to do with it!!! Keep trusting the experts, I choose to think on my own........Lol, schooled :) I've seen what all here has been schooled on......By the way, I fish with live shrimp i catch for trout :) I doubt you can do that in the city :) get out and free your mind, climate change is great right now :) Take care as fresh trout is ready.....Life is great in the country with free thinkers...... I just feel for the washed, Knock!
You have the freedom to believe what you choose and still remain wrong on the issue and indeed you are wrong.
Ignorance is what you are comfortable with. Carry on.
Isn't it strange how mental illness hardly massacres anyone in Canada, Australia & the UK. Or Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. . . .
Piggy backing off these countries, would you also like to post the punishments for illegal possession of guns in these countries? The compare to the punishments in the US. Is there a big difference?
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
Isn't it strange how mental illness hardly massacres anyone in Canada, Australia & the UK. Or Japan, South Korea, France, Germany, Italy, Denmark, Finland, Norway, Sweden, Poland, Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania. . . .
Piggy backing off these countries, would you also like to post the punishments for illegal possession of guns in these countries? The compare to the punishments in the US. Is there a big difference?
would you also like to post the punishments for illegal possession of guns in these countries? The compare to the punishments in the US. Is there a big difference?
Punishment for illegal gun possession varies widely ranging from fines to death penalty with prison being the most common punishment. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. So US isn't soft on crime. Big differences are that other countries have lower rates of gun ownership among population and stronger gun controls.
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Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90:
would you also like to post the punishments for illegal possession of guns in these countries? The compare to the punishments in the US. Is there a big difference?
Punishment for illegal gun possession varies widely ranging from fines to death penalty with prison being the most common punishment. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. So US isn't soft on crime. Big differences are that other countries have lower rates of gun ownership among population and stronger gun controls.
I realize that Wikipedia doesn't meet the gold standard for data but the link here is comprehensive.
My stance is if you use a gun in the commitment of a crime, you must do time with no pleas available. Bring back mental hospitals/institutions . We have sick fucks walking the streets like timebombs.
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@kcblitzkrieg
I pick threads important to me. Most of this forum has gone down the toilet.
I realize that Wikipedia doesn't meet the gold standard for data but the link here is comprehensive.
My stance is if you use a gun in the commitment of a crime, you must do time with no pleas available. Bring back mental hospitals/institutions . We have sick fucks walking the streets like timebombs.
@kcblitzkrieg I pick threads important to me. Most of this forum has gone down the toilet. @BigGame90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation I realize that Wikipedia doesn't meet the gold standard for data but the link here is comprehensive. My stance is if you use a gun in the commitment of a crime, you must do time with no pleas available. Bring back mental hospitals/institutions . We have sick fucks walking the streets like timebombs.
KCB has posted an absolutely true statement which is the kind of fxcking bullshxt that right-wing gun-loving chowderheads post to oppose almost all responsible gun laws (I certainly would oppose a law that would ban all guns).
"Approximately 5%of mass shootings are related to severe mental illness."
I wish Covers would provide members the ability to block other members that they strongly dislike. Thank goodness Disqus does.
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Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1:
@kcblitzkrieg I pick threads important to me. Most of this forum has gone down the toilet. @BigGame90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation I realize that Wikipedia doesn't meet the gold standard for data but the link here is comprehensive. My stance is if you use a gun in the commitment of a crime, you must do time with no pleas available. Bring back mental hospitals/institutions . We have sick fucks walking the streets like timebombs.
KCB has posted an absolutely true statement which is the kind of fxcking bullshxt that right-wing gun-loving chowderheads post to oppose almost all responsible gun laws (I certainly would oppose a law that would ban all guns).
"Approximately 5%of mass shootings are related to severe mental illness."
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: would you also like to post the punishments for illegal possession of guns in these countries? The compare to the punishments in the US. Is there a big difference? Punishment for illegal gun possession varies widely ranging from fines to death penalty with prison being the most common punishment. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. So US isn't soft on crime. Big differences are that other countries have lower rates of gun ownership among population and stronger gun controls.
The U.S. ""is"" soft on crime when you compare incarceration rates today from just a short 5 years ago.
Murder rates in the inner-cities, smash & grab, petty theft, etc. has all skyrocket since then.
Do you see any correlation THIRDPERSON ?
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Quote Originally Posted by BigGame90: would you also like to post the punishments for illegal possession of guns in these countries? The compare to the punishments in the US. Is there a big difference? Punishment for illegal gun possession varies widely ranging from fines to death penalty with prison being the most common punishment. US has the highest incarceration rate in the world. So US isn't soft on crime. Big differences are that other countries have lower rates of gun ownership among population and stronger gun controls.
The U.S. ""is"" soft on crime when you compare incarceration rates today from just a short 5 years ago.
Murder rates in the inner-cities, smash & grab, petty theft, etc. has all skyrocket since then.
Contrary to common misconception, US crime rates have generally trended downward since 1992. Except for increase in property crime in 2001 and increases in violent crime in 2005-6, 2014-16 and 2020-21.
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Contrary to common misconception, US crime rates have generally trended downward since 1992. Except for increase in property crime in 2001 and increases in violent crime in 2005-6, 2014-16 and 2020-21.
Contrary to common misconception, US crime rates have generally trended downward since 1992. Except for increase in property crime in 2001 and increases in violent crime in 2005-6, 2014-16 and 2020-21.
Good one !! You just can't make this stuff up from the left !
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Quote Originally Posted by thirdperson:
Contrary to common misconception, US crime rates have generally trended downward since 1992. Except for increase in property crime in 2001 and increases in violent crime in 2005-6, 2014-16 and 2020-21.
Good one !! You just can't make this stuff up from the left !
@thirdperson US crime rates have generally trended downward since 1992. Except for increase in property crime and increases in violent crime
If you're going to poke fun at someone, why not cite they're entire quote? It's beneath you.
Nothing he said is untrue. It doesn't mean I agree with his overall premise. Crime is trending in the wrong direction and while democratic policies are completely to blame, they definitely aren't helping things. If you look into the numbers though, and we know that you are a numbers guy, you will see that his point is factual.
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Quote Originally Posted by Raiders22:
@thirdperson US crime rates have generally trended downward since 1992. Except for increase in property crime and increases in violent crime
If you're going to poke fun at someone, why not cite they're entire quote? It's beneath you.
Nothing he said is untrue. It doesn't mean I agree with his overall premise. Crime is trending in the wrong direction and while democratic policies are completely to blame, they definitely aren't helping things. If you look into the numbers though, and we know that you are a numbers guy, you will see that his point is factual.
As far as the numbers part he is basically right because depending on your time frame nearly all crime is down; but he is incorrect on the trend for the two he mentions. If you pick the right time frame even violent crime and property crimes are down.
Certainly you have spikes but there is a solid downtrend since the early '90s in pretty much all crimes.
I was not clear the way I worded it.
When you frame your point by saying even though two of the major crimes are up that crime is down that does not make your point very well.
He should just have said crime is down even though people hear about it more because of the 24-hour news cycle, etc.
The other issue is this is a classic sidestep the Left will use. This is implying that crime rate and 'being soft' on crime are the same issue; they are not.
Address the recidivism rate and the rehabilitation rates to make your point. Do not simply say crime is down because it is still a major concern for folks and there is plenty of room for improvement still.
Just because folks are in jail does not mean crime is down and that you are 'hard on crime'. That is not the way the logic works. The three things can be entirely separate issues.
Maybe that clears it up some.
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@StumpTownStu
As far as the numbers part he is basically right because depending on your time frame nearly all crime is down; but he is incorrect on the trend for the two he mentions. If you pick the right time frame even violent crime and property crimes are down.
Certainly you have spikes but there is a solid downtrend since the early '90s in pretty much all crimes.
I was not clear the way I worded it.
When you frame your point by saying even though two of the major crimes are up that crime is down that does not make your point very well.
He should just have said crime is down even though people hear about it more because of the 24-hour news cycle, etc.
The other issue is this is a classic sidestep the Left will use. This is implying that crime rate and 'being soft' on crime are the same issue; they are not.
Address the recidivism rate and the rehabilitation rates to make your point. Do not simply say crime is down because it is still a major concern for folks and there is plenty of room for improvement still.
Just because folks are in jail does not mean crime is down and that you are 'hard on crime'. That is not the way the logic works. The three things can be entirely separate issues.
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @kcblitzkrieg I pick threads important to me. Most of this forum has gone down the toilet. @BigGame90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation I realize that Wikipedia doesn't meet the gold standard for data but the link here is comprehensive. My stance is if you use a gun in the commitment of a crime, you must do time with no pleas available. Bring back mental hospitals/institutions . We have sick fucks walking the streets like timebombs. KCB has posted an absolutely true statement which is the kind of fxcking bullshxt that right-wing gun-loving chowderheads post to oppose almost all responsible gun laws (I certainly would oppose a law that would ban all guns). "Approximately 5% of mass shootings are related to severe mental illness." https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/mass-shootings-and-mental-illness I wish Covers would provide members the ability to block other members that they strongly dislike. Thank goodness Disqus does.
I'd be interested to see the parameters on this 5%....as in, what constitutes a mass shooter to qualify as "severe mental illness". Were they diagnosed? When, post or pre shooting ? Were they on SSRIs ? I'm guessing a number much higher than 5% of them never even had this addressed in their lives, essentially going "unchecked" growing up through the system. Only just recently did society even start to consider mental health an issue worth talking about.
Thank you America
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Quote Originally Posted by DogbiteWilliams:
Quote Originally Posted by Midnight1: @kcblitzkrieg I pick threads important to me. Most of this forum has gone down the toilet. @BigGame90 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Overview_of_gun_laws_by_nation I realize that Wikipedia doesn't meet the gold standard for data but the link here is comprehensive. My stance is if you use a gun in the commitment of a crime, you must do time with no pleas available. Bring back mental hospitals/institutions . We have sick fucks walking the streets like timebombs. KCB has posted an absolutely true statement which is the kind of fxcking bullshxt that right-wing gun-loving chowderheads post to oppose almost all responsible gun laws (I certainly would oppose a law that would ban all guns). "Approximately 5% of mass shootings are related to severe mental illness." https://www.columbiapsychiatry.org/news/mass-shootings-and-mental-illness I wish Covers would provide members the ability to block other members that they strongly dislike. Thank goodness Disqus does.
I'd be interested to see the parameters on this 5%....as in, what constitutes a mass shooter to qualify as "severe mental illness". Were they diagnosed? When, post or pre shooting ? Were they on SSRIs ? I'm guessing a number much higher than 5% of them never even had this addressed in their lives, essentially going "unchecked" growing up through the system. Only just recently did society even start to consider mental health an issue worth talking about.
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I thought Wally and I schooled you on this already. Guess knock!
Carry on. 
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